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  • On the profound, life-saving and deeply dignifying possibilities that come from sharing our personal stories and experiences. The cultural narratives that often discourage openness, contrasted with the healing power of vulnerability and the importance of creating welcome for one another to speak and be listened to.

    Hosted, as always, by Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace.

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    Some People Will Ask
    Excerpt from You Could Make This Place Beautiful

    “Why are you telling these stories? Why air your dirty laundry?”

    Someone will ask this, or if they don’t ask, they’ll think it. Maybe you’re thinking it now. How do I answer?

    I could say what happened to me is mine. I could say that suffering equals pain plus resistance, and I’m no longer resisting, no longer hold it in, letting it fester. And why would you expect me, or anyone, to grit my teeth and quietly carry my story? I could say there is a cost to carrying your truth but not telling it. I could say women have been doing this for decades and look where it’s landed us. I could say I’ve gone and lost my narrative, and lost not only my understanding of the future but also my understanding of the past, and this is how I’m trying to find it – Who’s calling this laundry dirty, anyway? It’s just lived-in.

    Maggie Smith

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  • On the tensions between our inner worlds and the external identities we often adopt to fit in. How societal expectations and personal fears can lead us to suppress what’s most true about us, and the importance of reconnecting with the "wild energies" within our souls.

    This week we explore how creative practices, changes in routine, and mindful engagement with everyday tasks can help us wake up to our innate aliveness. We reflect on the balance between necessary social conventions and the gifts of discovering our own unique expression, and propose that we each find a way to honour "wonder of their own presence" and bring our unique life force into service to the world around us.

    Hosted, as always, by Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace.

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    The Wildness In Our Hearts

    Every human person is inevitably involved with two worlds: the world they carry within them and the world that is out there. All thinking, all writing, all action, all creation and all destruction is about that bridge between the two worlds...

    Each one of us is the custodian of an inner world that we carry around with us. Now, other people can glimpse it from [its outer expressions]. But no one but you knows what your inner world is actually like, and no one can force you to reveal it until you actually tell them about it. That’s the whole mystery of writing and language and expression — that when you do say it, what others hear and what you intend and know are often totally different kinds of things.

    One of the sad things today is that so many people are frightened by the wonder of their own presence. They are dying to tie themselves into a system, a role, or to an image, or to a predetermined identity that other people have actually settled on for them. This identity may be totally at variance with the wild energies that are rising inside in their souls. Many of us get very afraid and we eventually compromise. We settle for something that is safe, rather than engaging the danger and the wildness that is in our own hearts.

    from an interview with John O'Donohue

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  • We ‘privatise’ so much about our lives that is actually shared, as if we were separate entities - like objects that bump into one another only occasionally. But it’s an impoverished story that robs us of so much contact, depth and support.

    It might be much more accurate to say that instead of being like objects we are more like whirlpools in a river - constantly evolving processes that shape one another. If we saw ourselves and our relationships that way, perhaps we’d begin to wonder afresh about the power of cultural norms that encourage separateness, and the potential benefits of more open and contactful conversation about ourselves and our relationships with those around us.

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    This Relationship is Ours

    One of the principles of the Dagara concept of a relationship is that it’s not private. When we talk about “our relationship” in the village, the word our is not limited to two. And this is why we find it pretty hard to live in a relationship in a modern culture that is lacking true community. In the absence of community, two people are forced to say, “This relationship is ours,” when in fact, a community should be claiming ownership.

    Subonfu Somé
    from ‘The Spirit of Intimacy’

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  • Sometimes, instead of trying to make life's challenges easier, it's more beneficial to fully acknowledge the weight of our burdens until we're compelled to put them down. How we often carry impossibly heavy expectations, work ethics, or people-pleasing behaviours, thinking these will lead to success or belonging, when instead they multiply our difficulties.

    The importance of compassionately recognising both the good intentions behind these burdens and the suffering they cause, and the role of coaches and loved ones in helping people see alternative ways of living that honour their true selves without abandoning themselves. And the transformative power of imagining and articulating different "styles" of engaging with life's challenges, whether in parenting, work, or relationships. Who can we be, we wonder, when we learn to envision and offer new possibilities and narratives for relating to life that honour other people’s aliveness and wholeness?

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    Don't Lighten the Burden

    The British-born Zen master Houn Jiyu-Kennett [...] said of her teaching style that her goal wasn’t to lighten the burden of the student, but to make it so heavy that he or she would put it down. I had a full-body reaction the first time I encountered that, in the basement shelves of Watkins, the ‘esoteric’ London bookstore. Tears pricked behind my eyes. The relief! To me, the phrase meant this: you can slog through life (and I had been slogging through life) trying to ‘get on top of things’, trying to reach the point at which you feel like you know what you’re doing, trying to fix your flaws, or make yourself emotionally invulnerable… All of that is an attempt to ‘lighten the burden’, and there are a thousand self-help gurus on standby, promising to aid you in the effort. But making the burden heavier? That means seeing that as a finite human you’ll never get on top of everything, never fully understand what makes others tick, never immunize yourself from distress. The burden of reaching that goal is an impossibly heavy one. And so you put it down. You let your shoulders drop and your muscles unclench. And then – crucially – you’re free to actually be here, actually do stuff, actually show up. You get to climb life’s mountains without lugging a huge rucksack full of steel ingots on your back the whole way, which is both easier and much more fun.

    Oliver Burkeman
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  • How might we engage with our inner world and find meaning in our experiences? In this episode we explore how we might embrace even the difficult parts of life as potential sources of wisdom and growth. And how this perspective can transform our relationship with challenging emotions and experiences, inviting us all to approach life's complexities with curiosity and openness.

    The conversation weaves through topics such as the stories we tell ourselves about our experiences, the wisdom inherent in our inner responses to life events, and the possibility of finding value in even the most unwelcome feelings, making space for confusion, wonder, and the potential for transformation in our everyday lives.

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    Coming Home to Myself

    The Self
    pushes the neglected forward
    for recognition.
    Do not disregard it.
    It holds energy
    of highest value.
    It is the gold in the dung.
    Do not disregard the dung.

    Marion Woodman

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  • Exploring three common protective myths people use to cope with life's uncertainties. How these myths, while intended to provide comfort, often amplify the very isolation and fear we want to avoid, and rarely help us as much as we think they will. How we might come to examine our own protective stories, opening the possibility of softening them so we can remember our inherent qualities, such as creativity and courage, especially in challenging moments, engage more authentically with life and cultivate deeper connections with others.

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    Myths That Keep Us From Our Lives

    At the times when the world has shrunk to its smallest horizons, when I have felt most despairing, desperate, or alone, or when I have found myself working and pushing much too hard, it usually turns out that I have been living in thrall to one or more protective myths about life that rarely help as much as I imagine.

    Myth 1 – I’m not like other people

    I’m not really a person, but other people are. Others’ lives are complete in ways that mine is not. Other people know where they’re going, while I am lost. Other people made the right choices, while I stumbled. Other people aren’t as confused as I am. Other people don’t suffer as I do.

    Underpinning this myth is a great deal of negative self-judgement, which fuels a sense of deflation, self-diminishment or self-pity. But it can equally be worn as a mask of grandiosity, in which I puff myself up with certainty and arrogance. Sometimes I bounce between the two poles, from deflation to grandiosity and back again.

    This is the myth of specialness. It boosts our self esteem by giving us a reason for all the difficulty we’re experiencing. And protects us from feeling the suffering of others by keeping us at a distance from everyone and everything.

    Myth 2 – Death has nothing to do with me

    Somehow I’m separate enough from the real world that death is not an issue for me in the way it is for others. It’s frightening but far-off, a rumour, something that happens to other people. Consequently, I need pay it little real attention. I can ignore what my body tells me, and what my heart tells me. I’m protected from seeing that my time is finite and that I have to decide in which relationship to life I wish to stand.

    This is the myth of no consequence. It saves us from the burden of having to choose, or face the uncertainty of our choices in a world in which choices matter because our time is limited.

    Myth 3 – A saviour is coming

    If I’m good enough, popular enough, loved enough, successful enough, recognised enough, powerful enough, rich enough, famous enough, caring enough… then I’ll be saved. Someone – one of the grown-ups in the world – will see me and, recognising my goodness, rescue me from my troubles

    And then I won’t have to face them any more.

    This keeps me working really hard. Sometimes it has me try to save others in the very same way that I am desperate to be saved.

    This is the myth of dependency. By rendering us helpless it keeps us from taking on the full responsibility (and possibility) of our own adulthood.



    I know these are not myths I carry alone.

    We cling onto these myths because, as well keeping us at a seemingly safe distance from our lives, we’re afraid that if we face the true situation of our lives then our troubles will be magnified. But, as with any turning away from the truth, they come at an enormous cost. In particular they keep both our dependency and our hopelessness going.

    When we can learn to see them and begin through them, we give ourselves the opportunity for a much more direct, unmediated contact with our lives and with others. We might begin to discover deep sources of hope, courage and compassion which which we had been out of touch. And as we allow ourselves to step out of hiding and into relationship, we might discover that our capacity to help others – and to be helped by them in return – is greater than we could have imagined.

    Writing and Photo by Justin Wise

  • On rediscovering and recovering our own and other people’s qualities and possibilities in the midst of everything that happens. How what we think we've lost in life may actually be ever-present, just waiting to be rediscovered, often brought to us by the presence of others. And the possibility that every encounter with another person, even difficult ones, can remind us of qualities within ourselves we may have forgotten if we can maintain a sense of wonder and openness to the mysterious nature of things.

    Hosted, as always, by Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace.

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    What You Thought You Lost

    What you thought you lost along the way
    hangs in the air like a prayer

    May you find your way home
    may the doors swing open wide
    from the out and the in
    side
    under a wide open sky

    May you lose
    may you find,
    may you know
    in the core
    of your weathered soul your old
    and your new sign

    May every stranger on the path
    become the one who
    stopped

    to hang something you thought
    you lost in the air
    by a thread like an ancient
    pagan prayer
    like some kind of
    elder
    warm-eyed
    guardian was standing there.

    Wendy Videlock
    www.wendyvidelock.com

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  • How do we become fully ourselves, as adults, in contact with our essential depth and capacity and without being so much in the grip of the defensive patterns of personality we developed as children?

    Being an adult who is in touch with their essence. Being an adult who can play. Being an adult who can be joyful. Being an adult who can find freedom in themselves. Being an adult who can not shut everything down just to make everything okay the whole time. Being an adult who can be open to people's views. Being an adult who can be accepting of difference. Being an adult who isn't trying to corral everybody into one way of doing things the whole time. Being an adult who doesn't blame everything on everyone else for whatever they're going through.

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    Holding Personality Lightly

    Early in life we all experience emotional states we cannot tolerate - being left alone, interaction with an anxious or depressed parent etc - and in response we begin to build shields of protective armour around our essence. These defence structures constitute our personality. Doing their job well, they continue to guard our vulnerability, but they also prevent the intimate contact we long for.

    What we routinely identify as our selves is actually this personality… a construct, an idea or self-image that hides the part of us that is vulnerable and capable of unmediated connection. This mask plays a crucial role in our lives. It is likely that we could not have survived without it. But we are so much more than this learned self-concept. Knowing ourselves solely as our personality limits us severely.

    When we delve into the truth of our personality, we begin to see how our daily struggles in relationship result from our inclination to defend this assumed identity. Before we can have direct, unmediated contact with ourselves or with a significant other, we must take the necessary step of unmasking our personality. In this process, we do not give up the personality entirely, but rather learn to wear it more lightly.

    Jett Psaris and Marlena Lyons
    from ‘Undefended Love’

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  • We can brace ourselves against our lives, and we can try to control the many situations in our lives that really can't be controlled. We mean by this everything from parenting, to relationships, to our living and dying. Sometimes, our bracing and our rigidity works right against the forces and movements of life that are bigger than us, and out of our reach, and then we end up crashing into situations. So what would it take for us to recognise when we are falling and learning to be soft, like a cat, rather than landing as a bag of bones?

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    Be Like a Cat

    When a cat falls out of a tree, it lets go of itself. The cat becomes completely relaxed, and lands lightly on the ground. But if a cat were about to fall out of a tree and suddenly made up its mind that it didn’t want to fall, it would become tense and rigid, and would be just a bag of broken bones upon landing.

    In the same way, it is the philosophy of the Tao that we are all falling off a tree, at every moment of our lives. As a matter of fact, the moment we were born, we were kicked off a precipice, and we are falling, and there is nothing that can stop it.
    So instead of living in a state of chronic tension, and clinging to all sorts of things that are actually falling with us because the whole world is impermanent, be like a cat.

    Alan Watts

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  • When the differences between us come into play - in a relationship, in a community, at work, in a friendship - it can seem tempting to search for some kind of false harmony, or to try to either ‘win over’ others or ‘lie down’ in the face of their will and wishes. But what if we started to see our differences, and our conflicts, as exactly the place where our freedom and our unique shape gets born? What if we could differ ‘for the sake of our becoming just who we need to be’?

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    The Life in Our Resistances

    I have come to feel that we live in a universe of spirit, which materialises and de-materialises grandly; all things seem to me to live, and all acts to contain meaning deeper than matter-of-fact; and the things we do with deepest love and interest compel us by the spiritual forces which dwell in them. This seems to me to be a dialogue of the visible and the invisible to which our ears are attuned.

    There is, first of all, something in the nature of the clay itself. You can do very many things with it, push it this and and pull that, squeeze and roll and attach and pinch and hollow and pile. But you can't do everything with it. You can go only so far, and then the clay resists.

    We know ourselves by our resistances [...] You can do very many things with us: push us together and pull us apart and squeeze us and roll us flat, empty us out and fill us up. You can surround us with influences, but there comes a point when you can do no more. The person resists, in one way or another (if it is only by collapsing, like the clay). Their own will becomes active.

    This is a wonderful moment, when one feels one's will become active, come as a force into the total assemblage and dynamic intercourse and interpenetration of will impulses. When one stands like a natural substance, plastic but with one's own character written into the formula, ah, then one feels oneself part of the world, taking one's shape with its help - but a shape only one's own freedom can create.

    from Centering, by the potter and writer MC Richards

    Photo by Grant Durr on Unsplash

  • It seems like it should be so simple - giving to one another, receiving from one another, loving one another, opening ourselves to the love of others. But it’s so often hard, and so often we make ourselves unavailable to what we most need and long for, and hold back from what we are most able to give (or give it, but without taking into account the impact of our way of giving).

    What can we do to understand the relational dynamics that shape our giving and receiving and our holding back our contribution from one another? And what kind of conversation and skilfulness can help us find our way through the maze of expectations, stories, culture, conditioning and habit so we can find one another in a more straightforward way?

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    The Gift of Loving

    Give the gift of loving you to others. Ask for their help.

    We seem to have learned that helping involves sacrifice.

    So we think that by asking for help, we’re asking people to make a sacrifice.

    So we don’t ask. We try and do it all alone. And we forget that people can just say no. So it’s OK to simply ask.

    Maybe life is about the giving and receiving of gifts…..

    It’s a true joy when someone feels loved and we have something to do with it.

    So what are we doing removing opportunities for people to love us, taking this away from them, this joy of loving us ?

    If we all knew what it meant to truly say no, and what a true yes means, what kind of love filled, supported world might we find ?

    Lizzie Winn

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  • What if what is most called for in order to live our lives is remembering the mystery that we each are... the essential depth that we are, which is often buried beneath layers of habit, personality patterns, the strength of our feelings, our busy-ness, our worry? But we forget, and we take ourselves to be something much smaller than we are. One way that we might begin to remember is to pay attention to that moment between sleeping and waking, before we 'put ourselves back together' and become our familiar habitual selves, when we can catch a glimpse of our essentialness... a path to recover our depth and the depth of others.

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    What to Remember When Waking

    In that first
    hardly noticed
    moment
    in which you wake,
    coming back
    to this life
    from the other
    more secret,
    moveable
    and frighteningly
    honest
    world
    where everything
    began,
    there is a small
    opening
    into the new day
    that closes
    the moment
    you begin your plans.
    What you can plan
    is too small
    for you to live.
    What you can live
    wholeheartedly
    will make plans
    enough
    for the vitality
    hidden in your sleep.
    To become human
    is to become visible
    while carrying
    what is hidden
    as a gift to others.
    To remember
    the other world
    in this world
    is to live in your
    true inheritance.
    You are not
    a troubled guest
    on this earth,
    you are not
    an accident
    amidst other accidents
    you were invited
    from another and greater
    night
    than the one
    from which
    you have just emerged.
    Now, looking through
    the slanting light
    of the morning
    window toward
    the mountain
    presence
    of everything
    that can be,
    what urgency
    calls you to your
    one love?
    What shape waits
    in the seed of you
    to grow and spread
    its branches
    against a future sky?
    Is it waiting
    in the fertile sea?
    In the trees
    beyond the house?
    In the life
    you can imagine
    for yourself?
    In the open
    and lovely
    white page
    on the waiting desk?

    by David Whyte

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  • When we listen with total presence, the person speaking to us often communicates differently, hearing themselves more deeply. We ‘hear ourselves into being’ more fully by listening this way too. Most people aren’t used to being heard in this way, and most of us aren’t used to listening with this much attention. But the act of deep attentive listening can change us profoundly, and change the relationships between us in life giving ways. So how might we step in to this urgent task?

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    Listening is suspending disbelief

    Communication moves in two directions, even when one person speaks and another listens silently.

    When the listener is totally present, the speaker often communicates differently. Most people aren’t used to being fully heard, and it can be jarring for them.

    Sometimes we block the flow of information being offered and compromise true listening. Our critical mind may kick in, taking note of what we agree with and what we don’t, or what we like and dislike. We may look for reasons to distrust the speaker or make them wrong.

    Formulating an opinion is not listening. Neither is preparing a response, or defending our position or attacking another’s. To listen impatiently is to hear nothing at all.

    Listening is suspending disbelief.

    We are openly receiving. Paying attention with no preconceived ideas. The only goal is to fully and clearly understand what is being transmitted, remaining totally present with what’s being expressed – and allowing it to be what it is.

    Rick Rubin, from The Creative Act: A Way of Being

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  • What if we were able to really deeply honour and welcome our incompleteness and imperfection, and honour our own and one another's unique ways of being in the world? Maybe then - if we gave up our harsh self-criticism and our demands for perfection - we'd ever more be able to be 'home' for one another, and participate generously, lovingly and compassionately in the reshaping of ourselves that life is always asking of us.

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    Symmathesy (the poem)

    Each one of us is a crooked tree,
    Reaching for water and light,
    Bending ourselves around obstacles,
    Scary thoughts, hurtful moments,
    darkness & thirst,
    Finding a way to breathe in the sun and hold the soil,
    Our branches are kinked and twisted,
    Because that is what it took to be here,

    The ways of learning to be in our worlds,
    Have shaped responses,
    Our many experiences are speaking through every gesture.
    Our loves, and broken paths, a tenderness, a criticism,

    Learning always,
    Yearning always,
    In crooked beauty...
    To be a home for those who may find comfort
    In the asymmetry of our belonging,
    A nest cradling new life,

    Tucked into an old log teeming with creatures,
    learning to be in each other's reshaping.

    Nora Bateson

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  • We're born as wide-open hearts, but very quickly discover that the world around us is not ready or able to welcome us in our fulness. So early on we learn strategies to put large parts of ourselves away - to belong by unbelonging many aspects of ourselves. It's necessary, unavoidable even, but comes at a huge cost. So can we learn as we traverse our years of adulthood to bring ourselves out into the open where it is, in the end, possible to be most fully loved? And can we be the ones who love our friends, partners, children and colleagues 'out into the open' by being an affordance for those around us to bring themselves forward ever more fully?

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    In The Open

    No matter the strength of shyness
    No matter how tempting it is to keep myself a secret

    Oh how comfort’s infestation spreads
    While it urges me to do nothing

    There is no room to hide
    In a world I am made for
    Out in the open

    There is no room to hide
    I am supposed to be loved
    Out in the open

    Morgan Lahm

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  • Because we are imaginative beings, we can imagine and call into being all kinds of better possibilities for ourselves and those around us. At the same time, our imaginations can have us pretend to ourselves about the reality of our lives and experience. It’s completely understandable that we do this - distracting ourselves with what Rainer Maria Rilke calls ‘empty freedoms’ is surely one way to try to avoid experiences and feelings we don’t want to have.

    But those distractions, those ‘empty freedoms’ do little to help us plant deep roots, or to learn how to fly when called for. So how might we turn with courage and whole hearts towards the reality of what is, as a way of opening ourselves to the possibility of acting to bring about a better future?

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    How Surely Gravity's Law

    How surely gravity’s law
    Strong as an ocean current,
    Takes hold of even the strongest thing
    And pulls it toward the heart of the world.
    Each thing – each stone, blossom, child – is held in place.

    Only we, in our arrogance,
    Push out beyond what we belong to
    For some empty freedom.

    If we surrendered to Earth’s intelligence
    We could rise up, rooted, like trees …

    This is what the things can teach us: to fall,
    Patiently to trust our heaviness.
    Even a bird has to do that
    Before he can fly.

    Rainer Maria Rilke
    Translated by Anita Barrows and Joanna Macy

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  • How do we make the safety in ourselves that makes it possible for others to feel safe with us? How do we make it safe for others so they can feel safe in themselves? How do we make it safe for us to disagree with one another as well as agree, to be uncomfortable together as well as comfortable, to hold together unity and difference? And how might committing to this make it more possible for us humans to live together in families, organisations, and the societies of which we are a part?

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    Safe Space

    When there is nowhere else you feel safe,
    and you think that goodness has gone extinct;
    when the world seems cold as a snowed-in car
    that won’t start anymore — step inside this poem.
    Find solace in the spaces between each line,
    breathe peace in the pause between words.
    Let no one every say you don’t belong here —
    you were born, you’re alive, you exist: take this
    as proof that you too are loved. Say this to yourself
    until it is true: May I be safe, may all beings
    on this planet be safe. And feel how a small fire
    kindles in your chest, spreading to the bundle
    of tinder that is your heart, still humming
    its tireless, ancient hymn: I am, I am, I am.

    James Crews
    www.jamescrews.net


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  • We make all kinds of separations inside ourselves and between ourselves and one another. “I’m like this, but not like that” we tell ourselves. But that division leaves us bereft of all kinds of possibility and freedom. Perhaps right when we’re feeling most serious, it’s time to reach for that in us which is playful and bring it right alongside. Or when we meet someone very different to us, it’s time to discover their many virtues and see what it is like to bring those virtues inside us, alongside the virtues we already claim as our own.

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    The Opposites and the Center

    As our personal universes expand, if we keep drawing ourselves into center again and again, everything seems to enhance everything else. It becomes unnecessary to choose which person to be as we open and close the same ball of clay. We will make pots for our English classes. Read poems to our pottery classes. Write on the clay, print from the clay. The activity seems to spring out of the same source: poem or pot, loaf of bread, letter to a friend, a morning's meditation, a walk in the woods, turning the compost pile, knitting a pair of shoes, weeping with pain, fainting with discouragement, burning with shame, trembling with indecision: what's the difference? ...

    What I mean here [is that] it seems to me that one must be able to picture before oneself the opposite of what one has just declared, in order to keep alive the possibility of freedom, of mobility, of growth. As soon as we find ourselves spellbound by order and our ability to control our medium and our tools, to do exactly what we want, we must do the opposite as well. As soon as [we find ourselves working] with danger, and disrespect for the canons of taste, do the opposite. ...

    Most of the separations we make need to be looked at very carefully: weakness and strength, sickness and health, not-knowing and knowing, play and seriousness... For example, we tend to think that strength is all-important, and yet we have a very shallow notion of what strength consists of. For unless our weaknesses play into our strengths we are not as supple as we should be... The natural rhythms of life seem to go by polarities which swing around this unmoving centre: the very rhythms of our breathing are the dialogue of inner and outer.

    by the potter and writer M.C.Richards, from her book 'Centering'

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  • We bring ourselves into life in a dance we learned right from our earliest days… in which we’re often carefully managing what we can show to one another of ourselves. And others learn to dance with us in this way too, finding out from being around us what is ok to talk about, and what to avoid. Pretty soon we’re all dancing around that which, if we pay attention, was in plain view all along.

    Oftentimes the dance feels necessary. Sometimes it is necessary. But keeping on the surface of things is hardly a way towards the intimacy, connection, contact and realness we long for. So who could we be for ourselves and for one another, so that we can bring ourselves - and all our rich complexity - into the light for the benefit of everyone around us?

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    What if we could just tell each other?

    Parts of us lie in quiet, sly shadows.
    Publicly undiscernible, or so we believe.
    The truth is they are experienced by others,
    Despite our internal dance to conceal them.

    When we commit to something,
    And our actions “say” otherwise,
    They betray the façade we
    Made to manage others’ views of us.

    If we knew, and accepted that we were visible,
    We’d know there would be no point in trying to hide.
    How people feel around us reveals so much of us.
    What if we could just tell each other?

    Instead of hiding in plain sight,
    we’d be open to anything anyone brought our way.
    Here I am,
    ready and willing to learn.

    By Lizzie Winn

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  • Change is everywhere. Within us. Around us. And, sometimes, in our longing for some stability, some centre of ‘no change’ in the tumult of our lives, we’ll close ourselves off from the truth of things, numbing ourselves, distracting ourselves, and pretending it isn’t happening.

    But the truth is that everything changes. And although we might try to fight it, we human beings long for what is true, what is real, and for intimacy with the world. So can we instead ‘make an altar to change’, and turn towards its ever-presence as a way of deepening our engagement with life, and with one another?

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    Become The Wind

    What if we built an altar to change?
    Dedicated ourselves to the idea,
    bowed down to that which
    is not steadfast.

    Perhaps there would be an empty bowl
    in the middle that might break
    at any moment.

    Perhaps in the center there is only a shard
    that we must learn to worship.
    We don’t come to this altar begging,
    we come to be reminded
    there is nothing to beg for.
    We are happy. We are devastated.
    We are whole. We are broken.
    It rains. It clears.
    All at the same time.

    Or maybe in the center there is a mirror
    Which reflects only what is,
    not necessarily what is wanted.
    An altar where we come to meet truth,

    to bow down to it.
    To open the window of the heart
    and accept that there is no choice
    but to be changed.

    Penny Hackett-Evans

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