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  • It was 2018 when Saxon Mullins, now 23, came out and said the four words: “I am that girl.”

    People had heard what had happened to a young woman in a laneway behind the Soho nightclub in Sydney’s King’s Cross. 

    They heard what a man, Luke Lazarus, son of the nightclub owner, said to her. 

    The public was also aware of what happened next. 

    But it took five years for Saxon to say those words, “I am that girl”, and she said them to ABC journalist Louise Milligan. 

    Saxon did what she was meant to do. She reported alleged assault. She turned up to court. She sat in the witness box and she told her story. 

    But, Louise Milligan asks, at what cost?

    Louise Milligan is an investigative journalist, a reporter for the ABC’s Four Corners program, and Walkley Award winning author. Her most recent book is Witness: An investigation into the brutal cost of seeking justice in which she explores Australia's legal system and how it treats witnesses. 

    She gives us a glimpse into a world so many of us will never see, and explores the stories of various witnesses, including Saxon Mullins and Paris Street. 

    CREDITS

    Guest: Louise Milligan, Reporter for ABC Four Corners and author, Witness: An investigation into the brutal cost of seeking justice 

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri 

    Executive Producer: Zoe Ferguson

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  • This is the second part of a two part episode. If you haven't listened to part one, listen here now.

    Launceston is one of Australia’s oldest cities. Just south of the city centre stands Launceston General Hospital, one of the main public hospitals in the state of Tasmania. The hospital treats a quarter of a million patients every year, and over 150 years has built trust within the local community. 

    The children’s ward is known as Ward 4K - filled with doctors and nurses doing their best to make a child’s stay as comfortable as possible. 

    But for more than 20 years, one nurse - a grandfatherly figure to so many - allegedly preyed on sick children. 

    It wasn’t until May last year, when a young woman referred to as Alice walked into Launceston police station, that everything would begin to change. 

    Her story, police would discover, was only the beginning. 

    This story is told by investigative journalist Camille Bianchi, the creator, host and reporter behind The Nurse podcast. The Nurse is about a former Launceston nurse named James 'Jim' Geoffrey Griffin who lived in a quiet town in Tasmania, and spent his life working with children. He also hid a dark secret. 

    CREDITS

    Guest: Camille Bianchi, creator and host of The Nurse podcast  

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri 

    Executive Producer: Zoe Ferguson

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  • Launceston is one of Australia’s oldest cities. Just south of the city centre stands Launceston General Hospital, one of the main public hospitals in the state of Tasmania. The hospital treats a quarter of a million patients every year, and over 150 years has built trust within the local community. 

    The children’s ward is known as Ward 4K - filled with doctors and nurses doing their best to make a child’s stay as comfortable as possible. 

    But for more than 20 years, one nurse - a grandfatherly figure to so many - allegedly preyed on sick children. 

    It wasn’t until May last year, when a young woman referred to as Alice walked into Launceston police station, that everything would begin to change. 

    Her story, police would discover, was only the beginning. 

    This story is told by investigative journalist Camille Bianchi, the creator, host and reporter behind The Nurse podcast. The Nurse is about a former Launceston nurse named James 'Jim' Geoffrey Griffin who lived in a quiet town in Tasmania, and spent his life working with children. He also hid a dark secret. 

    This is part one of a two part episode.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Camille Bianchi, creator and host of The Nurse podcast  

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri 

    Executive Producer: Zoe Ferguson

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au  

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  • This is the second half of a two-parter. If you haven't heard part one yet, listen here and then come back to listen to part two. 

    Chris Regan, a 53-year-old war veteran and father of two sons, hadn’t been seen since October 14, 2014. Weeks turned into months, and as the lakes of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula turned to ice, there was still no sign of him. 

    Inside Chris’ car, police had found one item of interest; a handwritten note that appeared to be directions. At first, it hadn’t made any sense. But once police looked more closely, it became clear they were directions to the home of Kelly Cochran, a colleague who Chris was having a relationship with. 

    According to Kelly, her husband Jason Cochran was aware of her affair with Chris. Her affairs were simply part of their marriage. She’d seen Chris a few days before he’d disappeared, but she didn’t know where he’d gone, or why he’d left. 

    But police knew this wasn’t true. 

    Kelly knew far more than she was letting on. And they were beginning to suspect so did her husband Jason.

     

    CREDITS

    Guest: Laura Frizzo

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri 

    Executive Producer: Zoe Ferguson


    Dead North is on Investigation Discovery - available to stream via Foxtel On Demand.

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  • Iron River, in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, is known for its scenic lakes, hiking trails, exceptionally cold winters and dense forest. It’s sparsely populated, and many who do live there are blue collar workers.

    Laura Frizzo was the first female Police Chief in Upper Michigan and worked for the city of Iron River for almost 22 years. She knew what sorts of crimes to expect. And then came a woman named Terri O’Donnell.

    Towards the end of October, 2014, 50 year old Terri arrived at the police station and told authorities that her ex-partner, Chris Reagan, was missing. 

    What would unfold over the following months, and then years, is a story of extramarital affairs, drug abuse and serial murder.

    One woman would come to be known as the black widow - capable of crimes far worse than anyone could have imagined.

    This is part one of a two-part feature.

     

    CREDITS

    Guest: Laura Frizzo

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    Audio producer: Ian Camilleri 

    Executive Producer: Zoe Ferguson

    LINKS
    The true story is dramatised in the new docu-series Dead North on Investigation Discovery - available to stream via Foxtel On Demand.

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  • It was mid 2016, when 28-year-old Angela Jay downloaded Tinder. Angela had come out of a long term relationship and had decided it was time to start dating again. 

    That’s when she came across the profile of a man named Paul Lambert. He had used the ‘Super Like’ feature on her, which meant he was especially interested in striking up a conversation. He was conventionally attractive with dark hair, friendly eyes, and a wide, warm smile with dimples on either side. Angela decided to reply to the 36-year-old, and quickly learned they had a lot in common. 

    Their first date was everything she wanted it to be. He was kind and interested, unashamed about how much he liked her. She couldn’t have known at that point who he really was, and the behaviours that lay in his past. 

    Then came the gut feeling that something wasn’t right. 

    It would end with every woman’s worst nightmare - a story that made national news and an event that Angela will remember for the rest of her life.  

    CREDITS

    Guest: Dr Angela Jay

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    Executive Producer: Zoe Ferguson

    LINKS
    A link to the Ted X event in Sydney… https://tedxsydney.com/

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  • It’s August, 2005, and Nicola Gobbo’s life is about to go in a direction she never anticipated. 

    Nicola is a successful defence barrister, best known for defending Melbourne’s most prolific organised crime figures, from Carl Williams to Tony Mokbel. But things have become very messy. She wants to get what she calls the ‘Mokbel monkey’ off her back. She’s become too involved in ways she says she never intended. She’ll later say she’s tired of being stood over by criminals who are manipulating the justice system. She’s scared and distressed, and close to breaking down. 

    When Nicola Gobbo arrives at the courthouse and finds two detectives standing outside, words spill out of her mouth and tears fall down her face. She tells them things she shouldn’t. The detectives see this as an opportunity, and suggest something that’s never been done before. 

    Her decision that day would affect thousands of people, and ultimately force her into hiding. 

    The most resounding question when it comes to Nicola’s behaviour is: why?

    CREDITS

    Guest: Rachael Brown

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    Executive Producer: Zoe Ferguson

    LINKS
    To listen to the podcast Trace, visit: abc.net.au/trace

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  • It was a Thursday night in December, 2001, when a woman named Janine Vaughan attended a nightclub in Bathurst called the Metro Tavern. Janine had lived in the small town, with a population of about 27,000 for the last three years, working as a manager at a local menswear shop. Hers was a face many in the community knew, considered conventionally beautiful with blonde hair, blue eyes, and a big smile. 

    In the early hours of that Friday morning, 31-year-old Janine walked out onto George Street, a few paces ahead of her friends. She was distressed, having lost her handbag somewhere in the nightclub. A few moments later, a red sedan pulled up. Her friends were unable to see the driver, but assumed it was someone Janine knew. She climbed into the passenger seat, and the car drove away.

    That was the last anyone has seen of Janine Vaughan - a woman known as fun loving and outgoing. Her mother, Jenny Vaughan, told The Sydney Morning Herald in 2012, “It was raining, she had no money, she had no phone, no key to get into her house. If it was just someone she knew from coming into the shop or who she knew from around town she would have got in. It wouldn’t have been someone she met that night.I think it’s someone that she knew and trusted them enough to get into the car.” 

    So, who was in the driver’s seat? And what did they do to Janine Vaughan?

    CREDITS

    Guest: Hedley Thomas

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    LINKS
    The Night Driver Podcast by The Australian… thenightdriver.com.au

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  • Matthieu Heimel grew up knowing nothing about his biological parents. 

    His life in Perth had been enough for him until his two children began asking unanswerable questions about where he came from.  So in late 2018, Mattieu embarked on a DNA search for his mother and father. 

    He found his father Jerry relatively easily. He was a US serviceman who had been stationed in the Philippines in 1978 when Matthieu had been conceived. 

    Finding his mother proved far more difficult. 

    Using social media, he connected with members of his mother’s family. He was told that Nenita, the woman who had given birth to him 42 years ago, was missing. As he asked more questions, he learned that she’d moved to Melbourne in 1985, and then a few years later, she’d vanished. 

    The closer he looked, the clearer it became that Nenita had likely been murdered. 

    CREDITS
    Guest: Simon Illingworth

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    LINKS
    The SBS on Demand series, Every Family Has a Secret… https://bit.ly/2SzrK0c
    Simon Illingowrth’s book, Filthy Rat… https://www.booktopia.com.au/filthy-rat-simon-illingworth/book/9780980417043.html

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  • It was a tropical night in Caracas, the capital of Venezuela, and 45-year-old Luis Navia’s 25-year stint as a narco (a drug trafficker) was coming to an end. 

    Ever since he’d first tried the stuff as a young man, Luis had dealt large quantities of cocaine. 

    It was the era of Pablo Escobar, of the Netflix series Narcos, of Miami Vice,  Scar Face and  American Made. So much has been written and explored about the cocaine market of the late 20th Century but until now, none of those stories properly included Luis Navia. 

    Pursued for more than 12 years, Luis’ time on the run was drawing to a close. Luis would walk out the front doors of Tamanaco InterContinental airport and wait for a taxi. He didn’t know that he was about to be captured by the National Guard of Venezuela. He’d be threatened with a scalpel. 

    Once arrested, Luis was sent back to Florida where he would finally face justice. It’s where he had studied at university and where his parents lived. He emerged from the airport in a white shirt, khaki pants and brown shoes, looking like he didn’t have a care in the world. If he felt anything, it was relief. 

    His life for so many years had been one of secrets. He’d been held over a pit of crocodiles. He’d spent more money than anyone could ever dream of. No one, at that moment at least, knew his full story. Until it was told by Jesse Fink. 

    CREDITS
    Guest: Jesse Fink

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    LINKS
    The book Pure Narco by Jesse Fink and Luis Navia… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51192383-pure-narco

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  • It was a summer night in 1986 when 26-year-old Anita Cobby met friends for dinner in Redfern. 

    Afterwards, the registered nurse caught the train from Central Station at 8:48pm, and arrived at Blacktown station just before 10pm. 

    Usually, Anita would call her father at the station and he would pick her up, but this night all the surrounding pay phones happened to be out of order. There were also no taxis available at the taxi rank. It was a beautiful, clear night and Anita decided to walk home.

    It was 10pm when a gang of five men pulled up beside Anita in a stolen car, grabbed her, and dragged her into the vehicle kicking and screaming. A number of witnesses on Newton Road in Blacktown heard the voice of a distressed young woman and called the police.

    It was the next day that the naked body of a young woman was found in a paddock at Prospect in Western Sydney. Police identified her as Anita Cobby. 

    One of the women working at Blacktown police station at the time was Deborah Wallace. She was around the same age as Anita, and similar in appearance. The lead detective would choose to do something unconventional in order to find who was responsible for one of the most horrific murders in NSW history. His approach would work, and ultimately it would change the course of Deborah’s career.

    CREDITS

    Guest: Deborah Wallace

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    LINKS
    The Book ‘A Woman of Force’... https://www.booktopia.com.au/a-woman-of-force-mark-morri/book/9781760787356.html

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  • It’s early 2016 when a description of American woman Amy Allwine is posted to the Dark Web: “She’s about five foot six, she looks about 200 pounds. She should be driving a dark green Toyota Sienna Minivan.This bitch has torn my family apart by sleeping with my husband (who then left me), and is stealing clients from my business. I want her dead.”

    This post was in fact a call-out for someone to murder Amy Allwine, and be paid 13 Bitcoin (approximately $190,000) in return.

    But Amy hadn’t slept with anyone’s husband. She wasn’t stealing anyone’s clients. She had no enemies. So who could want her dead? 

    The police would eventually discover who wanted Amy dead. But they were too late.  

    In today’s episode Jessie speaks with Eileen Ormsby. Eileen is a lawyer, author and freelance journalist based in Melbourne. Her book, The Darkest Web, attempts to uncover the web's dark underbelly: a place of hitmen for hire, red rooms, hurtcore sites and markets that will sell anything a person is willing to pay for - including another person’s life. 

    CREDITS

    Guest: Eileen Ormsby

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    LINKS
    Eileen Ormsby’s book, Silk Road… https://www.booktopia.com.au/silk-road-eileen-ormsby/ebook/9781743518113.html
    Eileen Ormsby’s book, Darkest Web… https://www.booktopia.com.au/darkest-web-eileen-ormsby/book/9781760297855.html

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au  

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  • It’s 1974 in the suburb of Hamilton, which is about four kilometres from the heart of Newcastle. The area is an idyllic backdrop for an Australian childhood, surrounded by incredible natural beauty, with lush bushland and sprawling beaches.  

    Many of the working class families in the suburbs of Newcastle are Catholic. Catholics belong to a parish, which has a church and a local priest. The Catholic schools in the area promise to propel students into the professional classes. Maybe they’d grow up and become a teacher or a nurse or a journalist or even a priest themselves.

    The three main schools in this particular diocese are Marist Brothers Hamilton, St Pius X in the nearby suburb of Adamstown and Marist Brothers Maitland. Two of these schools are, as their names suggest, run by Marist Brothers, who are an international religious community of men, dedicated to educating young people. 

    But on October 8, 1974, something unimaginable happened. A boy named Andrew Nash dies. It will take decades for his family to discover what happened to him. 

    In this episode, Jessie speaks with Suzanne Smith. Suzanne is a six-time Walkley Award winning investigative reporter, whose 27-year career in journalism has included senior editorial roles at the ABC, including on Foreign Correspondent, Background Briefing, Lateline and ABC News. During her time at the ABC she reported on the cover-up of clerical abuse, which helped to trigger the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse in Australia. 

    Suzanne’s new book, Altar Boys, is a powerful expose of widespread and organised clerical abuse of children in one Australian city, and how the cover-up in the Catholic Church extended from parish priests to every echelon of the organisation. 

    CREDITS

    Guest: Suzanne Smith

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia 

    LINKS
    A link to Suzanne Smith’s book, Altar Boys… https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/QmWv3

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au  

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  • It’s 1978 in the Californian city of Stockton. Bob and Gay Hardwick, a couple in their twenties, are asleep in the early hours of the morning. Suddenly, they’re awoken by a bright light shining in their faces. A man is standing at the edge of their bed holding a gun, with a black ski mask covering his face. Over several hours, Gay Hardwick is sexually assaulted by the armed intruder, while Bob is tied up, unable to move. The man behind the mask would come to be known as the East Area Rapist, or the Golden State Killer, and for decades, he would evade police. 

    In today’s episode, Jessie speaks with Andrew Rule. Andrew’s written about some of the biggest Australian crimes of the last 30 years and is currently acolumnist for  the Herald Sun, as well as host of his own podcast Life and Crimes with Andrew Rule. Andrew’s particularly interested in DNA tracing, which later became one of the most valuable tools to finding the Golden State Killer. 

    CREDITS

    Guest: Andrew Rule

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Lem Zakharia and Hannah Bowman 

    LINKS
    Watch ‘I’ll be Gone in the Dark’ on BINGE… https://binge.com.au/shows/show-i-ll-be-gone-in-the-dark!7063
    Andrew Rule’s book, Cuckoo… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3617067-cuckoo

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  • It’s July 2018 when Detective Gary Jubelin stands in front of microphones and news cameras and says the words: “I suggest you come to us before we come to you.” 

    He is addressing the person who knows what happened to three-year-old William Tyrrell on September 12, 2014. Little did Gary know that this case would be the one to cost him his job, but as he tells host Jessie Stephens on the latest episode of True Crime Conversations, he has no regrets. 

    Gary Jubelin is one of Australia’s most notable homicide detectives, known for leading the investigation into the deaths of three Aboriginal children in Bowraville, solving the murder case of Terry Falconer, recovering the body of Matthew Leveson and running the crime scene following the Lindt Cafe siege. 

    In his new book I Catch Killers: The Life and Many Deaths of a Homicide Detective, Gary shares the reality of working on investigations such as the disappearance of William Tyrrell and the toll his work has taken on his personal life. Throughout his career, Gary's focus has cost him friendships, relationships and, in the case of William Tyrrell, his job. 

    CREDITS
    Guest: Gary Jubelin
    Host: Jessie Stephens
    Producer: Hannah Bowman 

    LINKS
    You can find Gary’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/2EEM4cA 

    RESEARCH
    The Bowraville Murders - 60 Minutes. https://bit.ly/3jdETXT  
    Mark Leveson speaks after Gary Jubelin's court appearance | 7NEWS. https://bit.ly/3hu3Yh5 

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  • When it comes to violent crime, can what happened to someone as a child, ever justify their actions as an adult?

    In today’s episode, Jessie is speaking with a journalist, screenwriter, and author Mark Dapin. 

    In his book, Public Enemies Mark explores the lives of armed robbers Russell 'Mad Dog' Cox and Ray Denning. 

    In the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, armed robbers were the top of the criminal food chain. And Russell ‘Mad Dog’ Cox and Ray Denning were the best. Cox and Denning were once Australian Public Enemies Number One and Two. Both were handsome, charismatic bandits who refused to bow to authority.

    Their story as criminals is one of violence and crime, but it has a deeper meaning that may be traced to the horrors they faced as young boys...

    CREDITS

    Guest: Mark Dapin 

    Host: Jessie Stephens
    Producer: Hannah Bowman 

     

    LINKS
    You can find Mark’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/324f5Xx  

     

    RESEARCH
    Tough Nuts | Ray Denning | The Runner. https://bit.ly/3hdbn41
    Tough Nuts | Russell Cox | Australia's Most Wanted Man. https://bit.ly/34eYymm 

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  • It was Saturday morning, when a routine police patrol drove past a mostly empty car park in the remote Queensland town of Mount Isa. When police edged closer, they saw that it was the body of a young woman, who they’d later discovered was named Patricia Carlton. She’d been brutally beaten and sexually assaulted. The woman was rushed to hospital, but later that night Patricia would die of her injuries. 

    Following Patricia’s murder, the police made an arrest almost immediately. But what happens when the process lets us down and the wrong person ends up in jail? 

    In today’s episode, Jessie speaks with forensic anthropologist, criminologist and author, Dr. Xanthé Mallet. 

    In her new book, ‘Reasonable Doubt’ Xanthé explores some of Australia’s worst wrongful convictions - including that of Indigenous man Kelvin Condren who was wrongly convicted of murder in 1984.

    CREDITS
    Guest: Dr Xanthé Mallett

    Host: Jessie Stephens

    Producer: Hannah Bowman 

    LINKS
    You can purchase Xanthe’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/30LEc1E 

    CONTACT US

    Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au  

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  • In today’s episode of True Crime Conversations Jessie speaks with Julia Robson. Julia is a private investigator, who spent 7 years on the trail of a New Zealand con man, who goes by the name of ‘Charlie’, who was scamming women online, promising them a better life, coercing them into relationships and even having children with them. 

    In her seven-part podcast ‘Chasing Charlie’ Julia speaks with the women who have been psychologically and financially abused by this man, and explains the trap she managed to set to finally bring him to justice. 

    CREDITS
    Guest: Julia Robson
    Host: Jessie Stephens
    Producer: Hannah Bowman 

    LINKS
    You can find Julia’s podcast Chasing Charlie HERE - https://bit.ly/39VuVXX 

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  • When Jose Martinez’s sister was murdered, he got revenge by murdering her killers. This sparked what would end up being three dozen murders, he completed over more than three decades, many of them on behalf of drug cartels, as a hitman. Despite being a ruthless killer, Jose is described as a soft-spoken doting grandfather and complete family man.

    In today’s episode, Jessie speaks with Jessica Garrison. Jessica is a senior investigative editor for Buzzfeed News and spent more than a decade as a reporter at the Los Angeles Times.

    In her book The Devil's Harvest - A Ruthless Killer, a Terrorized Community, and the Search for Justice in California's Central Valley, Jessica traces the life of Jose Martinez, the cops who were investigating him and the families of his victims. 

    Throughout her research, Jessica has studied decades of case files, Martinez’s handwritten journals, interrogation transcripts, and spoken to the people closest to this case to find the answer to one question. Why do some deaths, and some lives, matter more than others?

    CREDITS
    Guest: Jessica Garrison
    Host: Jessie Stephens
    ExecutiveProducer: Elise Cooper
    Producer/Editor: Hannah Bowman 


    RESEARCH
    ‘I Killed 36 People’ - Buzzfeed News - https://bit.ly/2CNL7hT 

    LINKS
    You can find Jessica’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/305eyES  

    CONTACT US

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  • In December 2017, Larrimah local Paddy Moriarty left his favourite pub and embarked on the two minute ride home, with his kelpie Kellie sitting beside him on his quad bike. And then, he disappeared into thin air. Along with Kellie.

    Larrimah is a small town in the Northern Territory located 431 kilometers from Darwin and the nearest grocery store is 90 kilometres away. This tiny town only has a population of 10 people, so when Paddy disappeared it was big news. 

    In this episode Jessie speaks with journalist Kylie Stevenson. Kylie was the co-host of the Walkley award winning podcast Lost in Larrimah, alongside Caroline Graham. Ever since Paddy went missing, Kylie has had a personal and professional interest in the case, having met Paddy by chance a year earlier. 

    CREDITS
    Guest: Kylie Stevenson
    Host: Jessie Stephens
    ExecutiveProducer: Elise Cooper
    Producer/Editor: Hannah Bowman 

    RESEARCH
    The Disappearance Of Paddy Moriarty - A Dog Act | ABC News - https://bit.ly/2ONn4Sl 
    Missing Man May Have Been Baked Into Pie | A Current Affair Australia - https://bit.ly/3eRkzt1 

    LINKS
    You can find Kylie’s podcast HERE - https://bit.ly/2OMfk3i 

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