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Today, a conversation with Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco about living in the spiritual world. I'm Richard Lloyd Jones.
It was the Police back in the early '80s that approached the subject of us being spirits in a material world. A typically spare and rhythm driven track that was catchy and infectious. They were an interesting band.
But, while they were observing the bleak political situation we lived in, it may have been no more than the complaining of youth searching for an answer but with no solutions to offer.
After all, criticism is not change, is it?
I remember back in that time going through my own social protest period, writing anti-nuke radio ads and joining numerous environmental groups in the naive belief that made me part of the solution, not part of the problem.
I'm much more sophisticated about social change today, recognizing that the evil we accuse the system of power of resides in us all. And especially more cognizant that there's a formidable spiritual influence on top of us constantly. And most of us have no idea about that. So let's dive into that spiritual wisdom.
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Dr. Norberto Keppe, the developer of the psychoanalytical science used by Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco on this podcast, has written extensively about sociopathology, which is the application of psychological conditions to society at large.
Quite innovative really. So, as we might analyze an individual's neurotic response to an everyday situation, we could also recognize an equally neurotic law or institutional bureaucratic hurdle.
Our modern society is displaying psychotic tendencies even in our continued use of war and terrorism to resolve conflicts. We live on a beautiful planet that offers abundance or everything we need to live well, and we destroy it or dominate it to have power and so deprive others of it, etc. etc. All the litany of problems we see on the planet are evidence of our pathological attitudes and even institutions.
Our analysis session today deals with one person's attempts to reconcile the difficulty in trying to fit in to a very unhealthy American society. And how turning that pathology back on herself demonstrates a strong suicidal attitude.
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We are always, in our programs, trying to get to the psychological and spiritual causes behind our physical and emotional problems. It's a journey that Norberto Keppe's Integral Psychoanalysis is well positioned to embark on
Keppe has synthesized Freud's psychoanalytical methodology, Melanie Klein's observations on envy and gratitude, classical German psychiatric findings on megalomania and arrogance, Socrates' dialectics, and Aquinas' discussion of the perfect inner structure of man with his own discoveries of Inversion and psycho-socio pathology that lead us to oppose what's good in and around us.
This, I think, is unique in his work: we are good by nature, by Creation, but we have attitudes against that constantly. And we need means of becoming conscious of that or it will dominate us.
In today's episode, a fascinating conversation that leads a man to see that the family abuse he suffered he's now unconsciously continuing on himself because of a total blindness to his own weakness. Here's Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco to set the table.
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Our latest podcast initiative is an attempt to create a forum for people to call or write with critical recent or long-standing issues they've never been able to adequately resolve and move on from.
Those habits or patterns of response you've never fully understood. You know there's something unresolved moving below the surface that's affecting your health or relationships or professional performance - or sometimes, all three - and you just can't get a handle on, and so they operate invisibly in your life.
We're here to help you with that. In a safe and anonymous way. Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco will lead you through a psychoanalytical process that touches into those roadblocks and helps free you up. Real therapy that doesn't gloss over or offer pat formulas.
Anything burning in your experience? [email protected]. We're waiting for your questions and comments.
Let's join Dr. Pacheco in her online therapy session today - an important one, treating an issue that needs treatment.
Post-traumatic stress disorder.
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Are there any of us completely free of what happened in our upbringing? I was joking with Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco after the therapy session you're about to listen to about how I was relating to today's client. She's dealing with fear of judgment, and I can relate to that feeling of pressure in social situations.
As Dr. Pacheco will discuss today, there's a lot of internalization that we do of the demanding and censoring environment we grew up in that's at play here. The brilliance of the Integral Psychoanalysis we use here in our Therapy Online Series is how we are brought to see how that has become a demanding nature that we've continued in our lives.
So we're not stuck in that victim posture of being only a product of what happened to us, but a continuation. Something we now do to ourselves mostly unconsciously.
It's fascinating stuff, as you're about to hear with Dr. Pacheco and today's client.
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Adolescents and their parents. Who doesn't have a story about that? I sometimes wonder how any of us survive our adolescence.
And I would extend that as I've gotten older to wondering how our parents survived our adolescence. Premature grey hair is probably the least serious consequence.
We are embarking on this journey to discover how the therapeutic application of the science of Dr. Norberto Keppe can help people.
Like you. I mean, who of us doesn't have sometimes long-standing issues that have never been adequately resolved. Sometimes we're hyper aware of them - things like addictions or recurring psycho-somatic health problems. Sometimes we're vaguely conscious of them - there are vivid dreams or unsettling emotions gnawing at us in those quiet moments. Many times we've pushed them down firmly out of sight into the nowhere land of unconsciousness where they foment away unbeknownst to us but still impacting our lives and behaviors in subtle ways.
These are the things we want to help you with in this podcast. Any area of your life you think is not in the shape you think it should be is grist for this therapeutic mill. Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco and I await your request to join us in our therapy for the world initiative at [email protected].
Today, Dr. Pacheco talks to a mother who's been estranged from her son for the past 15 years.
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A number of years ago, I initiated a series of call-in shows to deal with real life problems - from new work initiatives to relationship challenges, even to drug abuse, death and suicide. Those everyday situations that hit all of us.
Integral Psychoanalysis is the name of the therapy we do form our clinic in São Paulo. And it goes out to the world through our psychoanalysts who attend clients in person and online, reaching people all around the world.
That's no small thing. And have been personally helped by Norberto Keppe's psychoanalytical method for the past 22 years, I have always felt there's a tremendous need to get this out to the world. So I'm re-kindling our previous idea and opening up our online therapy sessions again.
And you're invited. If you have a long-standing issue you'd like to treat anonymously, our Healing Through Consciousness call-in therapy show is for you. Just write me at [email protected] and I'll set it up.
Today, a listener is looking for help with traumas from past relationships that are blocking her even today.
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Inversion. It's a recent 20th century discovery by the brilliant Brazilian psychoanalyst and social scientist, Dr. Norberto Keppe. 1977 to be precise. So, if you hear about our modern inversion of values, you can be sure that's come into today's lexicon because of years of effort from Keppe and his team, who work tirelessly to bring consciousness of the root psycho-social causes of human malevolence and destruction. Seems we're inverted from our original good, beautiful and true essence. And that inversion causes us to do the weirdest and most pernicious things while thinking we're acting honorable.
How else to explain why every technological development we launch causes us to creep ever closer to wiping out everything? We're inverted, so we destroy nature to make money and capture energy, we desperately look for fulfillment through possessions and mutual funds, we churn out new machines that kill and main while insisting we're looking for peace.
Understanding more about inversion gives us - finally - both an explanation for what's gone so wrong in the human experience, and a means of treating ourselves and returning to our original nature.
Today, Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco and inversion.
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Welcome to the, I suspect, final episode in our Healing Through Consciousness series. It'll be the final curtain for this series. Unless I discover more pearls from past programs that are relevant, of course.
I'm Richard Lloyd Jones, and I've been working through old episodes of my Thinking with Somebody Else's Head podcasts and re-editing them into shorter programs based on single themes. The first foray into that forma was on our Modern Relevance of God 17-part series, which, by the way, had been turned into an actual book now. Pretty proud of that. And I'm working on a book from this series, too. More on that to come.
Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco and I considered a painful email from a listener on our last Healing Through Consciousness episode. A woman struggling with the mortality of her dear sister. And Dr. Claudia offered some wonderful words of consolation about the passage from this mortal coil to the everlasting eternal life of the soul - words that are relevant for all of us in this temporal world.
Today, I'd like to take another extract from that longer program to deal with another vital area of the process of death. Something we all would do well to consider. And that is that many times, we're not only suffering from the physical loss of someone dear to us, but also from the consciousness their death brings to us of something related to ourselves.
So to help our listener deal with what she referred to as the state of shock, sadness, disbelief, and blind fear and terror she feels at the impending death of her dear sister, let's turn once again to Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco.
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Welcome to our continuing Healing Through Consciousness podcast series. Just when you thought it was over. Fitting we'll be addressing death today in Episode 13. I'm Richard Lloyd Jones.
Death. Such a downer, isn't it? The final curtain. The choir invisible. Kicking the bucket.
Except it's much more complex than that, don't you think? My sister tells a story of going into the mountains for a solo picnic shortly after our dear mother died, and a huge crow stole her bag lunch, flew off a few meters, and then landed and turned to stare at her. She was convinced it was mom sending her a signal.
A student of mine tells of being followed for blocks walking down the street by a beautiful butterfly the day after his beloved grandfather died.
These are mysteries of cold coincidence for materialistic scientists, but resonate at another level for the rest of us.
But for many, death is an unapproachable subject. As inevitable as it is, it still freaks us out. Is there anything to say about death that can be healing and comforting?
I think, "Yes!" Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco and I received an email from a listener some years ago broaching the shock, sadness and disbelief she was experiencing with the impending death of her dear - and still young - sister. What could be said to help her? For that, we turn to Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco.
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Beginning a new series today on Thinking with Somebody Else's Head - Therapy for the World. In fact, this is the slogan of our Keppe & Pacheco Trilogical Colleges in Brazil, where we teach the science of Analytical Trilogy developed by Norberto Keppe and Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco.
Today, an interview with Susan Berkley, president of the Great Voice Co. in New York. Susan's an accomplished broadcaster, best-selling author of Speak to Influence: How to Unlock the Hidden Power of Your Voice, and coach to thousands of voiceover actors and presenters in all formats - from video to podium to online conferences and seminars. She's a leadership and training consultant, the signature voice of Citibank and, in a personal aside, the one who introduced me to Dr. Norberto Keppe's work. So, in a large and significant way, Susan's instrumental in my being here in Brazil and working at the Keppe & Pacheco Colleges. I sat down with Susan recently to talk about communication.
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We’ve been focusing on more specific health situations in our series lately, and we’ll continue that today with an expansive look at eating disorders. You may know someone dealing with this neurosis – it’s all too common today – and you’ll find an abundance of treatments for this – most of them physical and ranging from highly elaborate nutritional plans to pills to acupuncture to removing part of the stomach.
And the explanations for the problem are diverse as well. But the view explored from the psycho-somatic department of the Keppe & Pacheco Trilogical College offers a deeper perspective too often missing from the conversation.
Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco heads up that department, expertly oriented by Dr. Norberto Keppe, 94 and still active and adding to his remarkable science daily. Dr. Pacheco joins us again today.
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In the early part of the 20th century, a non-medical educator was hired by the Carnegie Foundation to report on the state of medical education in North America. Abraham Flexner wrote a book concluding that there were too many bad medical schools, too much non-scientific quackery and curricula that were all over the place. Specifically, there was a lack of application of the scientific method in medical education in general.
The report led to the closing of many so-called medical schools in America – some of which were apparently no more than proprietary for-profit trade schools run by one or more doctors. Flexner’s work ended study in alternative health treatments like homeopathy, traditional osteopathy and any physio-medicine using botanical therapies that had not been scientifically tested.
And, of course, medical education came firmly under the control of the American Medical Association.
All that focus on the scientific method took spirituality out of medicine – and science – as well, something Norberto Keppe has spent a lifetime addressing in his Trilogical psychosomatics. Today, an expansive meditation on the spirituality of health, with Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco.
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I’m a product of the ‘60s and ‘70s. I saw guys trying to homestead in the woods of Vancouver Island as I was walking to a favorite swimming hole. I remember the distinctive smell of those funny cigarettes permeating the summer air. I thought they were struggling to find something.
I also remember some idiot slipping a hit of acid into a friend’s brother’s drink at a party, and watching the ensuing bad trip play out horribly in front of us all.
Our question from a listener today addresses those two points. He writes, “I have classified drugs into two categories: mind numbing drugs, like cocaine, tobacco, heroin, alcohol, et cetera, and mind opening drugs, like peyote, cannabis, mushrooms, etc. While the mind-numbing drugs have been found to be dangerous and highly addictive. the mind opening drugs have been used for centuries and show no signs of addiction or even lasting health problems with repetitious use. Does Dr. Keppe acknowledge this distinction between these drugs? If so, what is Dr. K's view of the spirit worlds that the mind opening drugs seem to unlock? Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco is with us again today.
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What is an addictive personality? You’ll see all sorts of definitions if you Google that! From addiction being a learning disorder, to a passion for something gone wrong, to the more serious diagnosis that it’s a character disorder, it’s difficult to get a final word on this all-too-common behavior.
I’ve been around my share of addictive behavior, including a favorite uncle who beat his battle with the bottle courageously and, I think, cold turkey, and lived out the rest of his life as a functional and responsible contributor to society. I remember him with great affection.
But it’s in the treatment of addiction that we really find out what’s going on. However, that treatment must involve helping the addicted individual move out of the modern mania of seeing all problems as having outside causes. Dr. Keppe once told me that healing only comes through interiorization, which is the process of helping people begin to have contact with what’s going on inside them. This is a prominent aspect of any psychoanalysis session with Dr. Keppe’s Integral Psychoanalysis.
We’ll see anther wonderful example of that today with Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco talking to Jen, who’s trying to understand how to help her family.
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Well, this is a relevant – and disturbing – topic for any who’ve experienced its devastating effects. The thought of someone taking his or her own life can leave us bewildered and even horrified. How could someone do that?, we wonder. And why? And when we see it happening in teenagers and young adults, we’re even more mystified. They’ve got their whole lives ahead of them, we reason. And while that’s true, it seems that opting out is becoming an increasingly common choice in many countries around the world – particularly in the so-called developed world. Lucky you are if you haven't been touched by this one. The guilt and anger that resides in the ones left behind is a real thing.
Freud put forward that suicide was a result of aggression turned inwards, while Jung offered complex thoughts and ideas about the psyche's journey needing to go through the totality of experience, and while all of that may play a part, it doesn’t really help us in understanding and dealing with suicide.
Norberto Keppe’s science of Integral Psychoanalysis is, in my view, uniquely equipped to deal with all psychological, emotional and spiritual crises, and in today’s program, a real-life case study with a frequent listener to our programs, Jane, who brings her particular challenge in dealing with suicide.
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This is Episode 7 of the Healing Through Consciousness series on Thinking with Somebody Else’s Head. This time, a clinical look at a modern mental health crisis. I’m Richard Lloyd Jones.
We’ve been laying a foundation for a more psychological and even spiritual approach to health and healing in our first 6 episodes of this series. That’s been important. But Norberto Keppe and Claudia Pacheco’s work in psychosomatic healing is not just conceptual. There’s a vast history of clinical therapeutic treatment of a wide range of physical and mental health disease conditions at the Integral Psychoanalysis center here in Brazil. From depression – our topic today – to cancer to spiritual crises, this is a very robust treatment methodology with impressive success rates over many years. And we’ll dive into an exploration of what’s behind depression in this episode, but first, an overview of Keppe’s approach to psychoanalysis, with Dr. Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco.
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Today on Episode 6 of the Healing Through Consciousness series on Thinking with Somebody Else’s Head, we’ll look at the effect our minds have on our immune system. I’m Richard Lloyd Jones.
One of the consequences of Louis Pasteur’s Germ Theory was the inevitable fear that outside us lurk nefarious elements waiting for their opportunity to pounce. Deadly viruses and germs in birds and pigs and now bats and monkeys are lining up to show us their stuff, and it’s possible they’ve been strengthened by genetic mutations in secret labs.
Gain of Function research is what that’s called, and it’s essentially the process of genetically altering pathogens to make them more infectious.
You heard that right. Making them more infectious. The justification given is that this will allow for the creation of effective anti-viral medicines before the virus appears from nature. So … just to get that straight: Gain of Function research means creating the virus before it even exists.
Reminds me of the old Monty Python routine about the secret Welsh art of self-defense that counsels you to attack your enemy before the thought of attacking you has even entered his mind.
Because it’s the same rationale, isn’t it? And it’s a little disturbing, not least because the paranoia created by viewing the danger outside increases our fear, and subsequently diminishes our immune system response.
Today, I’m joined by Cesar Soós, the lead researcher in the New Physics Department of our Keppe & Pacheco College, to look at how the mind is important in our immune system.
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Today on Episode 5 of the Healing Through Consciousness series on Thinking with Somebody Else’s Head, we’ll tackle an alternative view of disease infections. I’m Richard Lloyd Jones.
We can be forgiven for following the mainstream view about the origin and treatment of infectious disease. Ever since Carnegie and Rockefeller got ahold of Pasteur’s Germ Theory as a perfect vehicle for pharmaceuticals based on oil derivatives, medical education in the west has been teaching the idea that disease comes from outside. I sometimes imagine what it would be like trying to raise money for research into alternative treatments for cancer, specifically treatments that don’t require expensive surgery or drug treatment protocols. I visualize meeting after meeting with investors ending in many shaken hands and zero signed contracts. It is very difficult to raise money for research into treatment modalities other than drugs and surgery for things like cancer.
This “invasion from the outside” perspective dominates modern medical thinking, and is pretty much the accepted view of infectious disease among most of us. But what’s not well known is that there was another prominent scientist proposing another cause for disease at the same time Pasteur was developing his Germ Theory. His name was Antoine Bechamp, and his contention was that disease was an inside condition, not an attack from external microbes. All that was explored beautifully in E. Douglas Hume's fascinating book, Béchamp or Pasteur: A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology written 100 years ago or so.
And Keppe and Pacheco have been expanding on this interior medicine for the past 50 years. And what they’ve been working with changes the way we see disease. The latest on that today, with Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco.
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This is episode 4 of the Healing Through Consciousness series on Thinking with Somebody Else’s Head. I’m Richard Lloyd Jones.
From the time we're young, we're taught to protect our lives from nature. Sprays to keep off the bugs, oils to block the harmful rays, potent cleansers to ward off the offending bacteria waiting to take up residence in the bathroom.
And don’t even think about eating that bread that dropped on the floor.
Nature is often a savage place, we're shown on Discovery Channel documentaries, where evil microbes lurk expectantly, waiting for us to let down our guard for a split second before pouncing.
You wonder where the vaunted human immune system goes in situations like these, and how hugging your grandmother came to be so dangerous. Well, there are huge financial interests behind this idea that the danger lies outside. We need vaccines to protect us from outside enemies, and some estimates put combined vaccine company profits at some $65,000 per minute. We’ve accepted toxic pesticides as necessary to deal with pesky plagues, and there are obvious implications for human and eco-system health associated with that. Our multi-billion-dollar drug industry to treat symptoms can often exacerbate serious disease conditions.
We don’t want to branch off into conspiracy theory here, but medical education in the West today is notorious for training doctors that pharma solutions are the only option. And pharma lives on treating outside invasions or faulty hormones, chemical imbalances and deficient organs.
However, just to throw a significant alternative spanner into the works, Drs. Keppe and Pacheco have been working for decades on treating physical, mental and even social infirmity through a potent form of psycho-socio therapy. And their work suggests strongly that disease doesn't come principally from outside us at all. In their clinic, disease is largely an interior condition, while the modern medical and drug establishment makes its money, and consolidates its hold on treatment and treatment narratives, by provoking fear of what’s going on outside. And they call the shots today. The consequences, however, make us sicker. Here’s Claudia Bernhardt Pacheco.
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