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You wake, groggy, and roll over to discover a flickering light in the dim room...
It's here! Daredevil Born Again just landed in our laps and we get stuck right in. David is obsessed by the line that is crossed, and Pat just really wants to watch the show already.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
02:37 - Live Reaction04:43 - General Reaction and Thoughts10:05 - What's the line that gets crossed15:56 - How to craft a trailer18:00 - Fisk's deal and ambitions22:56 - Addiction and Daredevil28:02 - Fisk and Matt's dynamic32:12 - Larger MCU questions35:09 - The violence seems fresh38:01 - Who's the new woman39:50 - What would make an interesting show for Matt43:15 - What we don't want to see45:20 - What we want to see53:27 - When are we talking about Born Again55:25 - We're just happy to be here57:10 - Support us at patreon.com/zeroindent
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After a great calamity you stumble out of an empty apartment building, shield your eyes against the bright sun...
Welcome to our season finale! Step into our writer's room as Pat steps us through his pitch for a prospective season 4 of Netflix's Daredevil, contending with the events of the snap, The Defenders and what it means to have power.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - It begins!
03:33 - The boys are nervous07:11 - Table Stakes15:18 - The Tone and Style Pitch23:33 - The Themes of Season 4: Religious Faith32:59 - Character Arcs and Set Ups49:11 - Matt's Story1:06:31 - Karen's Story1:20:40 - Jessica's Story1:32:40 - Luke's Story2:10:52 - Fisk's Story2:48:20 - Trish's Story3:11:14 - Hardy's Story3:34:15 - The Final Conflict of The Story3:51:30 - The experience of doing the work4:05:11 - We're so grateful for the show4:10:00 - Support us at Patreon.com/zeroindent
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It's that special time of year: time to dive into the salvetic world of Elf and explore all of the strange quirks of being a film made in 2003 pretending that 2001 didn't happen.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - It begins!03:26 - The history of Elf (2003)13:57 - Summary16:59 - World building and set up24:29 - That shower scene sure is... huh?33:00 - Buddy leaves the North Pole41:42 - Buddy's father issues and capitalism49:23 - The calculus of Buddy's "Niceness"59:59 - The world's worst house guest continues1:13:52 - So let's talk about 20011:25:26 - The date of a lifetime1:39:00 - Content warning: discussions of self-harm and suicide1:46:00 - Elf's many references1:52:00 - The ending and final assessment2:09:15 - Heart warming final moments and resonance2:29:10 - Support indie media crit at patreon.com/zeroindent
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The boys check in with Matt Murdock the root rat and his appearance in She-Hulk to answer one simple question: is the show anything? What's the deal She-Hulk?
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
4:30 - She-Hulk Summary9:05 - The Daredevil of it all21:33 - What's Going On With Jen30:15 - Why Is Matt Murdock In She-Hulk40:19 - Maybe the MCU Hurts She-Hulk?52:40 - I Dunno Man Apple TV Make Good Stuff58:20 - Our Concerns and Hopes for Daredevil Born Again1:06:11 - Outro
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It's finally here. Daredevil and crew close in on Fisk and everything comes to a head. Pat is invested in the religious symbolism, and David brings Rabbit In A Snowstorm back into frame.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
2:50 - Episode 13 "A New Napkin" Discussion15:21 - Once You Start, Bad Things Beget Bad Things23:38 - David's Dramatic Flaw28:55 - How To Stop Matt Murdock35:36 - The Flaw In Fisk's Plan40:38 - Using Your Powers For Good?44:45 - Ray's Death Testimonial50:38 - Fisk's Happily Ever After56:35 - Evil Defeats Itself1:05:20 - Fisk Is Finally Done1:10:41 - The Ballroom Fight1:14:00 - The Final Fight Scene: Daredevil vs. Fisk1:20:17 - Rabbit In A Snowstorm: The Defiled Truths1:35:03 - The Quick Religious Chat1:40:24 - The Matt & Maggie Epilogue1:55:11 - The New Napkin Conversation2:02:19 - Well, That Appears To Be It2:10:11 - Daredevil Is Still Genius2:16:20 - Outro
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Once again Daredevil continues to be absolutely fantastic - all of our characters try their best last swings, and it all falls apart. Pat loves Fisk's particular brand of evil, and David is compelled to dote on Matt's decision making.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
4:20 - Episode 11 "Reunion" Discussion25:51 - The Importance of Location37:20 - Rabbit In A Snowstorm Meaning48:30 - What's Going On At Castle Fisk1:00:03 - Ray Nadeem's Wolves1:07:46 - Episode 11 "One Last Shot" Discussion1:17:51 - Pat's Cosmic Karma Scale1:23:00 - The Fraught Vanessa Question1:31:40 - Matt's Emotional Catharsis: Saving Sammi1:41:34 - Downsizing Your Ninja Employees1:45:50 - Courthouse Journey Fight1:54:00 - Vanessa and Fisk Give Us The Ick2:59:33 - Matt's Final Turn2:02:59 - Production Discussion2:08:36 - Outro
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IT HAPPENED. Born Again is real. Patrick and David are joined by Darth to watch and react to our first official look at the revival of our favourite show.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
3:35 - Reaction6:37 - What Do We Want From Born Again?13:55 - How Does Matt Fit Into the MCU20:40 - Wilson Fisk, Where Is He Now28:00 - How To Reference The MCU31:58 - What Cameos Do We Want41:20 - The Problem With Comics47:50 - Marvel's Sandbox Problem55:10 - What To Do With Disney TV59:40 - Follow A Method To The Madness1:00:03 - Patreon.com/zeroindent.com
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The tragedy is real: it's time for the flashback episode. Pat isn't quite sure if it all comes together. David is geeked out on the structure of these episodes.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Disclaimer: Content Warning1:02 - Good Stuff!5:12 - Episode 9 "Revelations" Discussion25:32 - Karen's Guilt35:32 - Nadeem Does A Whoopsie45:20 - The Fundamentals Done Right54:55 - Pool Metaphors57:05 - Structural Work: Dex Is Happy To Do It1:19:30 - The Small Evils of Fisk1:33:50 - Episode 10 "Karen" Discussion1:48:30 - This Flashback... Why1:55:00 - Karen's Mum & The Dinner2:07:11 - What The Story Wants2:19:33 - Lantom's Death2:31:40 - David's Evolution2:38:28 - Outro
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Finally Foggy does a good speech. Pat runs the table on Dex's gradual turn to pure evil, and David ends up with more notes than he knows what to do with.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
0:36 - Pat's North Star04:22 - Episode 7 "Aftermath" Discussion17:20 - Matt and Maggie: Catholic Roles24:00 - Nadeem Interrogates Karen29:56 - David's Dot Points47:00 - "I've out-grown what it stood for"54:20 - Ellison Isn't Dead59:05 - Nadeem Is So Flawed: Also Capitalism1:14:59 - UnderInk.Press For Merch!1:15:44 - Episode 8 "Upstairs/Downstairs" Discussion1:28:30 - Questions of Dex1:35:50 - Foggy's Big Speech1:45:00 - Karen Confronts Fisk1:55:30 - Dex Burns The Tapes2:05:35 - Nadeem "The wife guy" gets shot2:15:17 - Ellison and Karen2:25:11 - Outro
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The show gets delightfully weird. Pat loves how messy the story is becoming while David can't stop talking about how good Fisk is.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeill
Cover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
0:33 - Time to get weird3:31 - Episode 5 "Perfect Game" Discussion26:05 - Fisk Downloads Dex & Subtext Functions In Daredevil49:50 - Dex and Julie: Disaster Alert52:11 - Andor Correction54:55 - Heightening Character Drama57:59 - Dex and Julie: What Exactly Is His Deal1:05:11 - Karen's Admission1:09:45 - UnderInk.Press For Merch!1:10:26 - Episode 6 "The Devil You Know" Discussion1:21:40 - Fisk and Dex: Questions of Control1:26:10 - Matt and Dex Parallels1:29:15 - Dex Confronts Fisk1:36:40 - Vincent D'Onofrio Is A Genius1:42:59 - Karen Goes Detective Mode1:50:35 - Ray Nadeem's Life is a DISASTER1:58:30 - Dex's Perfectionism2:04:10 - Objects In Space & Terror2:13:50 - Outro
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Character drama that hits soft and hits the right way is the name of today's game. David is all about the embellishments that make characters real. Pat starts to see The Matrix with where the show is going.
Editor's Note: We're all on the same page about Dex, yeah? Absolute creep show that you can't look away from.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeillCover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
3:30 - Episode 3 - "No Good Deed" Discussion10:30 - Ray Nadeem Is Capitalism's Kick-Me Sticker13:30 - Karen's Awful Blind Date & Life17:13 - Matt Talks To Fisk (sorta)25:50 - Matt Does A Hitman30:11 - Fisk Might Be Ruining Everyone (also an F1 bit)40:00 - A Correction43:15 - There's No Cure For Wilson Fisk52:49 - Ray's Whole Awful Life Gets Worse59:20 - Dex Is A Stalker, Yeah, Yep, We're Not Thrilled1:03:59 - Matt Is Still Doing Hitman1:06:11 - Karen Figures That Capitalism Is Bad1:10:25 - Genre And Mechanisms Of Perversion1:16:00 - Episode 4 - "Blindsided" Discussion1:21:00 - Making Reality Unified Is A Trick (Fake News etc.)1:23:13 - Action and Consequence1:32:23 - Matt Murdock Is Alive1:35:45 - Fine, It's The Corridor Fight1:46:36 - Foggy's Big Time Speech1:50:13 - The Monsters Within1:56:00 - Fisk Is A Radical Right Wing Nut Job1:57:15 - Cliffhangers Always Muck You Up1:59:11 - AMTTM Check Em Out2:01:16 - Outro
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We are BAAAACCCCK guys. Daredevil is good again. Pat is sitting on some bombshells he'd loved to reveal and David can't get over how great Nadeem's predicament is.
Editor's Note: Let's goooooooooooo Daredevil is back.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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Timestamps00:00 - Intro
4:55 - Episode 1 - "Resurrection" Discussion13:33 - God's Path20:09: - Joeb's Story & Matt Murdock: Yikes28:05 - The Fisk Omelette Again33:21 - Matt Deals With His Injuries (Spiritual and Physical)51:05 - Integrated World Capitalism and Ray Nadeem1:00:00 - The ABC Plot Parallels1:05:00 - Episode 2 - "Please" Discussion1:14:11 - The Inevitability Tragedy of Being Yourself1:26:40 - Ray Is Doomed, Bro1:33:00 - Writers Matter, Actually1:44:22 - Karen Does Her Job1:50:39 - The World Has Moved On1:58:00 - Fisk, The Convoy, & Dex2:03:48 - Dissonance and Endings2:02:00 - Support Us At zeroindent.com
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We did it. The boys made it to the end of The Defenders and it only nearly killed David. Pat is thankful it's over and David is frustrated that the show exists at all.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
0:35 - Production Disclaimer1:57 - High Level Thoughts11:44 - Episode 7 "Fish in the Jailhouse" Discussion25:07 - Can You Make Elektra Compelling?37:30 - Institutions As Systems Of Villainy40:59 - Messy Confusing Fight57:44 - Episode 8 "The Defenders" Discussion1:08:22 - Conceptual Whiplash1:16:18 - The Defenders Arrive Underground1:23:24 - Matt Stays Behind To Die1:33:11 - Why Even Make The Defenders1:40:16 - Outro
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The seams are well and truly here. Pat can't believe how confusing the villains are. David pitches the scene level structural problems as the culprit for the strange sense of pacing.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro
2:30 - This Show Won't Pick A Show To Be6:15 - Episode 5 "Take Shelter" Discussion13:10 - The Villains Just Aren't Working18:47 - Danny Is A Plot Device21:55 - Bad Things Can Be Interesting32:30 - Violence Isn't Really Violent...35:45 - Karen and Matt Talk At Last41:25 - The Good Stuff44:54 - Colleen and Claire Have A Moment50:15 - The Messy Sequencing Is Here1:00:29 - David's Minor Complaint1:07:01 - Grab Maynard Trigg at UnderInk.Press1:07:55 - Episode 7 "Ashes, Ashes" Discussion1:17:00 - Danny Is Underwritten, Poorly1:21:45 - Elektra Starts To Remember1:27:00 - The Good Part Of The Episode1:35:50 - The Stick Of It All1:42:02 - It's Superhero Rumble Time1:48:43 - The Issue With Scene Structure1:58:18 - Economic Incentives & Borges2:02:55 - Outro
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Oh geez this time the boys are in the middle of The Defenders and... it's... something. Pat feels the mechanism of forcing the story through its own lens. David is struggling with the fact the writer's room clearly lacked the time to break the story.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro1:38 - Boy These Episodes Are... Not Great5:04 - Episode 3 "Worst Behaviour" Discussion12:49 - The Black Sky & The Villain Plot27:19 - New Jessica Jones Just Dropped: Dumb Biz Lady31:50 - Danny's Big Time Big Boy Speech39:35 - Merch & Books: UnderInk.Press41:12 - Episode 4 "Royal Dragon" Discussion55:23 - What Could Make These Characters Compelling1:10:57 - The Nobu Characterisation Problem1:14:11 - Hit Her With A Car1:15:52 - Outro
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The boys are back to talk about The Defenders. Pat is excited to see The Defenders. David is predictably concerned about the symptoms of the story's limitations before providing a rewrite of the show's opening.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro2:32 - Who Are The Defenders?14:28 - Episode 1 "The H Word" Discussion22:33 - Tonal Clashing & Synthesising Theme26:10 - SuperWhoLock Aside28:03 - Mature Direction30:40 - Matt Murdock In The Defenders34:25 - Episode 1 Analysis44:30 - Father Lantom's Lesson47:50 - Meta Concerns: Show Runners & Timing50:06 - It's Villain Time, Baby53:00 - Luke Cage's Conceit1:04:10 - Merch & Books: UnderInk.Press1:04:45 - Episode 2 "Mean Right Hook" Discussion1:11:18 - The Colleen Angle1:13:36 - Cinemasin: Matt Is Blind Tho1:15:55 - The Criminal Imaginary: TURK IS HERE1:20:08 - Episode 2 Analysis1:31:50 - Danny Rand Vs. Luke Cage1:35:25 - Alexandra Just Logged On1:39:30 - David Rewrites The Opening Of The Defenders1:57:24 - Outro
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The finale of season 2 is here. Questions of sacrifice, murder, morality and redemption are raised, poised, and paused to service The Defenders. David is steeped in notions of what makes Elektra a moveable character and Pat enjoys our last slice of goodness before The Defenders.
Perhaps the most compelling point of interest is the mystery of The Hand and the Blacksky, and how The Defenders undercuts a compelling conclusion.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
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Our best episode yet. Of anything. Period. This time the boys scratch at what it means to have an identity and whether you're ever really in the driver's seat. Then delve into love. Forgiveness. Faith. If there was ever an episode to listen to, it's this one.
David puts his own heartbreak into this one while Pat starts to see the Matrix, connecting simple truths to simple tragedies.
Editor's Note: this is my favourite episode so far: the discussion at around 30 min on Frank's world view about love is the most compelling listen for me personally. Also happens to be the episode where we finally figure out David's new mic. What a journey.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro2:39 - Season 2 Episode 11 Discussion9:44 - Forecasting Genre Changes14:33 - Intertextuality Within One Text18:11 - Foggy: The Most Normal Dude In A Weird Story22:04 - The Unreachable Matt Murdock30:08 - Frank Castle's Reality: Love Simply Is39:28 - Where Has Madame Gaoh Even Been? Da Basement47:00 - Knives Are Scary, Gang50:31 - Passing The Plot Baton1:00:00 - Creativity and Labour In End Stage Capitalism1:11:04 - Season 2 Episode 12 Discussion1:23:00 - Forgiveness and The Road Back1:34:14 - Basic Scene Structure Work Is Critical1:40:00 - The Man In the Room1:50:51 - Power Creep vs. Progressive Complication1:53:45 - Determinism: What Is Identity and Destiny2:07:28 - This Season Pulls Off The Impossible Tragedy2:13:18 - Spoilers For The Punisher (sorta)2:16:25 - The Punisher Is Born2:19:21 - Production Plan2:21:51 - Outro (and concerns about The Defenders)
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The show is up late! The boys sink a glass of whisky while breaking down Daredevil's most involved episodes so far. David loves the world building and Pat unravels the key motifs of this season.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
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DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro3:01 - The Shirts Are Here!7:09 - Season 2 Episode 8 Discussion16:16 - Stick Is A Great Driver22:45 - Structural Ideas of America, Military & Service31:07 - Matt's Disillusionment34:37 - The Great Lie of Matt Murdock's Life38:10 - Death & Frank Castle & Daredevil47:04 - The Court Room Trap57:02 - She's a HOT NINJA1:00:26 - Season 2 Episode 9 Discussion (The Fisk Ep)1:13:00 - Morality, Abstraction & Reality1:26:33 - Fisk Dominates The Punisher1:30:35 - The Minor Tragedies of Love1:35:43 - The Blood Motif1:39:27 - Season 2 Episode 10 Discussion1:45:12 - Karen & Matt's Awkward Chat TM1:50:25 - World's Worst DA2:00:43 - Elektra: Just Has It Like That2:05:20 - Daredevil and Claire On The Roof2:15:29 - Frank Exonerated (Sorta)2:17:50 - The Most Relatable Men On The Planet2:20:46 - David's New Book is OUT NOW UnderInk.Press2:2318 - Outro
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The story kicks off: Matt and Karen get romantic, and Elektra is here to mess up everyone's day. David loves the structural and genre symmetry and Pat keys into the way flashbacks change the underlying nature of the story.
Editor's Note: this week is the first week with David's mic, we figure it out next episode, promise.
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The Show(Dare)Devil In The Details is a show that explores and dotes on the philosophy and themes of Netflix’s DareDevil, a digression collection brought to you by A Method to The Madness and ZeroIndent.
Daredevil is a story about morality, justice and the concept of self. In immersing ourselves in the attitude and philosophy of Hell’s Kitchen we hope to draw in sharp focus what makes the story so exacting and compelling. Not just to praise the craft of storytelling, but to unpack our own feelings and thoughts about the ideas it raises: faith in a modern world, what we do with the legacy of our inheritance, and, of course, who we are. What does a name mean, claimed and given, and how do they shape us?
This is a careful story and so we will tread carefully. This may mean taking breaks to give ourselves time to process. This may mean taking breaks to deal with life. In the spirit of the show’s ideas, we aim to be considerate and present in our production and discussion. We will speak freely on and off the microphone. As we do the work, it makes us. And as we complete the work, it completes us, so we will not be afraid to unpack challenging concepts. Ultimately, we will enjoy the process to the best of our ability and allow the show to adapt when this may not be possible.
All rights reserved ZeroIndent 2024© D.C. McNeillCover art inspired by A More Civilized Age: https://amorecivilizedage.net/
DisclaimerI believe all copyrighted content used falls under Fair use as it is used for the purposes of commentary and criticism, and does not represent a market substitute for any of the original works as no original audio is used, and all footage is used with transformative commentary.
Timestamps00:00 - Intro3:33 - Season 2 Episode 06 Discussion15:52 - Responsibility: The Hero's Journey and The Call25:00 - All of The Doors36:10 - Flashbacks and Daredevil41:05 - Matt and Karen's Big Date55:12 - The Murdock Paradox1:07:28 - Season 2 Episode 07 Discussion1:21:25 - Frank Castle and Karen Page1:28:45 - Corporate Espionage & Characterisation1:34:10 - The Castle Cover Up1:45:00 - Season 2 Episode 8 Discussion2:00:34 - Surrounded By Tragedy2:10:03 - Foggy Nelson Steps Up2:14:58 - Questions of Genre Conflict2:22:50 - The Giant Hole Reveal and Consequences2:30:48 - Outro
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