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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with David Payne, from Helena, Montana. David grew up in Lewistown, Montana, fishing the small towns local stream, Big Spring Creek at age 8, with no fly shops and mail order materials, on a homemade vise. That was in 1964 and he’s been fly fishing ever since.

    In 1995, David started guiding on the Missouri River after moving to Helena in 1982, where he still guides today.

    We discuss spinner fall tactics on the Missouri River, why you should fish all four seasons of any river you are trying to learn, and how observing others in the boat can make you a better guide and fly fisher.

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    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | A Dozen Techniques For Getting Your Flies Down While Nymphing
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Tips for Fighting Big Fish From a Drift Boat

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Missy Sprouse, from Crowheart, Wyoming. Missy learned to fly fish in East Tennessee after meeting her husband. Together they moved to the remote Wind River Range of Wyoming to settle down and enjoy fishing and riding horses in the mountains.

    Missy is also a photographer and after falling in love with fly fishing, became excited about capturing the powerful experiences that women encounter through Casting for Recovery, an organization created to help women with breast cancer through fly fishing. Missy also served on the organization’s national board for eight years.

    We discuss fly fishing in the Wind River Mountains, the special experience of reaching your trout stream on horseback, and building lasting communities of ladies through Casting for Recovery.

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    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Why We Take Our Children Fly Fishing
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Eight Reasons the Zebra Midge is the Perfect First Fly to Tie
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | The Rendezvous - More Than a Fly Fishing Trip

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Ken Burkholder, from Boise, Idaho. Ken grew up playing music and fly fishing. Growing up in a musical family, with two older brothers to drive him to the river helped him live his early years doing what he loved: practicing the oboe, and fly fishing.

    After eventually earning his masters in the oboe at Northwestern University, the mountains called Ken back. He put his passions to work as a member of the Boise Philharmonic Orchestra in his hometown in the winter, and a fly fishing guide on the South Fork of the Snake River in the summer… living his dream for over thirty five years. Ken is also a signature tyer for Fulling Mill.

    We discuss tying salmon flies and golden stones, problem solving on the vise for beginners, and the South Fork of the Snake River.

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    Instagram: @kenburk55

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Pete Erickson, from Boise Idaho. Pete grew up fly fishing in Washington state and exploring the surrounding mountain lakes.

    After college, he became a guide on the Upper Green River, in Wyoming, while also teaching high school English. Pete has been a competitor for team USA in the competitive fly fishing world and is a rod designer for Echo.

    We discuss Pete’s experience learning and fishing in Tuscany, Italy, the Upper Green River, line management tips for nymphing and dry fly fishing, and Pete shares his progress into the outdoor wellness space in the coming years.

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    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Targeting the Middle of the Water Column and Alternatives to the Hopper Dropper

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Evan Keene from Livingston, Montana. Evan fell in love with fly fishing after his father took him on a fishing trip to Alaska after high school graduation.

    From then on he was learning all he could about the sport while making the drive from his home state of Tennessee to fish the Little Red River in Missouri as much as possible. Finally, Evan took a job in Montana, that got him out on the river more often, and eventually into the guiding business. Now, Evan is in his first year of running his own fly shop, Hatch Finders, in the Yellowstone Valley, with his close friend and business partner.

    We discuss summer hopper fishing, adjusting to dramatic weather changes that bring snow and rain, as well the Yellowstone River.

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    Hatch Finders.com
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Embrace the Drive
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Fly Fishing with Confidence Part One. Why Confidence Catches Fish
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Techniques for Casting "With" the Wind

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Duane Redford. Duane began his love of fly fishing and tying as a youth in the mountain lakes of Arizona. He moved to Colorado in 1982, where he became a teacher and a coach, as well as an avid angler.

    When his coaching days were over, Duane became a full time guide for Minturn Anglers, in the Vail Valley, and immersed himself in his passion for the water. Today, Duane continues to teach through fly fishing. He has written several books and creates content for his YouTube channel.

    We discuss approaching a new river, interpreting and obs erving water, directional control throughout the drift, and the Eagle River.

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    Minturn Anglers.com
    Duane Redford.com
    Duane Redford YouTube Channel
    Duane Redford: Hidden in Plain View: Recognizing the Obvious-Exploiting the Obscure in Fly Fishing
    Duane Redford: Fly Fisher's Playbook: A Systematic Approach to Nymphing

    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | The Fish Are Always Biting - Mindset
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Fly Fishing with Confidence. Part 1. Why Confidence Catches Fish
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | A Dozen Techniques for Getting Your Flies Down While Nymphing
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Fish One River
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | The Two Best Times for Experimenting on the River

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part Two of our conversation with Danny Lane from Idaho Falls, Idaho. Danny grew up fishing in the ponds around Boise as a child and became fascinated with fly fishing early on.

    After leaving his hometown for a change of pace, he finally found himself in the fly shops and rivers of Eastern Idaho, when his wife’s job brought them to the banks of the Henry’s Fork River. Danny was guiding shortly after and is a signature fly tier for Umpqua Feather Merchants.

    In Part Two of our talk we discuss the Henry’s Fork River, tactics and techniques for dry flies, and Danny’s unique artwork.

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    ThreeRiversRanch.com
    Instagram: @DanielJamesLazy
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | The Two Best Times for Experimenting on the River
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Fly Selection. Share the Work.

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Danny Lane from Idaho Falls, Idaho. Danny grew up fishing in the ponds around Boise as a child and became fascinated with fly fishing early on.

    After leaving his hometown for a change of pace, he finally found himself in the fly shops rivers of Eastern Idaho, when his wife’s job brought them to the banks of the Henry’s Fork River. Danny was guiding shortly after and is a signature fly tier for Umpqua Feather Merchants.

    In Part One of our talk we discuss how Danny goes about testing and designing a fly for function, the importance of a dry fly’s silhouette on the water, and how to think outside the box when you’re in your fly box.

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    ThreeRiversRanch.com
    Instagram: @DanielJamesLazy
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | The Two Best Times for Experimenting on the River
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Fly Selection. Share the Work.

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere for Part Two of our conversation with Kubie Brown from Southwest Montana. Kubie grew up with an obsession for fishing that often led to solo fishing excursions in the streams, rivers, and lakes of Vermont and New York.

    His literature and creative writing studies led him to work as a reporter and later an editor for a local newspaper. Kubie quit his job as editor to take a job as a sales associate at Orvis, which later led to casting and fly tying instructing.

    When the chance to go to guide school in Montana presented itself, Kubie jumped at the opportunity. It’s there that Kubie continues to make a life for himself as a guide and freelance writer for online publications such as Meateater and Midcurrent.

    In Part Two of our conversation we talk about the endearing qualities of a caddis fly and tactics for how to fish them, as well as some of the problems that come with stocking trout.

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    Instagram: @kubiebrown
    READ: MIDCURRENT | Early Summer Streamer Strategies (by Kubie Brown)
    READ: MEATEATER | How to Fish a Caddis Hatch (by Kubie Brown)
    READ: MEATEATER | To Stock or Not to Stock (by Kubie Brown)
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | The Two Best Times for Experimenting on the River
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | What Makes a Good Day's Fishing

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Kubie Brown from Southwest Montana. Kubie grew up with an obsession for fishing that often led to solo fishing excursions in the streams, rivers, and lakes of Vermont and New York. His literature and creative writing studies led him to work as a reporter and later an editor for a local newspaper. Kubie quit his job as editor to take a job as a sales associate at Orvis, which later led to casting and fly tying instructing.

    When the chance to go to guide school in Montana presented itself, Kubie jumped at the opportunity. It’s there that Kubie continues to make a life for himself as a guide and freelance writer for online publications such as Meateater and Midcurrent.

    In Part One of our conversation we discuss how Kubie approaches writing about fly fishing, the diversity of the Adirondacks, and techniques for continuing to problem solve while streamer fishing.

    More about Kubie:
    Instagram: @kubiebrown
    READ: MIDCURRENT | Early Summer Streamer Strategies (by Kubie Brown)
    READ: MEATEATER | How to Fish a Caddis Hatch (by Kubie Brown)
    READ: MEATEATER | To Stock or Not to Stock (by Kubie Brown)
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | The Two Best Times for Experimenting on the River
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | What Makes a Good Day's Fishing

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  • In this episode we Wade Back into some of 2024s most memorable conversations. These impactful dialogues are a combination of tactics, stories, conservation, and personal journeys that represent the best of what fly fishing can give us and what we can give back.

    If you’ve been a long time listener of the show, my intent is that these highlights remind you of why you listen and what WadeOutThere tries to unpack by sharing each guest's story of why fly fishing is special… for them.

    If you’re new to the podcast, this is what it’s all about. Everyone’s story is different. Everyone’s passion for the sport takes its own meandering path downstream. This show explores those unique passions. I hope this episode inspires you to go back and listen to some earlier episodes that spark your interest.

    I believe fly fishing is special, but not elite. May this episode remind us of our own special journey in fly fishing and keep us excited to hear from others.

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Casey Callison, from Springfield, Missouri. Casey moved to the Ozarks from St. Louis when he was a small boy and has been hunting and fishing there ever since. When Casey was twelve he was introduced to fly fishing. He spent nearly every day in the summers of his youth on the banks of Lake Taneycomo, below Table Rock Dam, fishing and learning from a local fly fisherman that became a friend and mentor.

    Casey has wrtiten several articles that have been published in various fly fishing magazines, is a local musician, and ties flies that he shares through his online store, Finly Fly Co.

    We discuss the often overlooked blue ribbon trout fisheries in Missouri, the history of Missouri’s trout parks, and Casey shares some unique insights into “junk flies.”

    More about Casey:
    Finley Fly Co: https://finleyflyco.wixsite.com/finleyflyco
    Instagram: @casey_callison
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Casey-Callison-Music/100089551372150/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@casey_callison
    MDC Blue Ribbon Slam: https://mdc.mo.gov/fishing/trophies-certificates/blue-ribbon-trout-slam
    Trout Park Info: https://mdc.mo.gov/fishing/species/trout/trout-parks
    Crane Creek Essay: https://terrain-mag.com/crane-creek-fly-fishing/
    American Fly Fishing Mag: https://americanflyfishing.com/
    ALT Fly Fishing Journal: https://altflyfishing.com/
    Missouri BHA: https://www.backcountryhunters.org/missouri

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Maxine McCormick, from San Francisco California. Maxine began fly fishing as a child with her father, and spent summer vacations with family, on the McCloud River, catching fish and learning from her dad.

    When Maxine was introduced to competition fly casting, her new found passion for casting helped her enjoy the fishing aspect of the sport more as well. Maxine was competing nationally at age nine and won a gold medal at the world championships for accuracy at age twelve. Now Maxine works at a fly shop in the Seattle area where she attends school and continues to incorporate fly fishing into her life’s adventures.

    We discuss the McCloud River, the basics of the casting stroke that Maxine practices and teaches, and how she adjusts her casts for different scenarios on the water.

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    Instagram: @Maxine_McCormick

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Jack Kingsborough, from New Zealand. Jack moved from Australia to New Zealand to pursue a life at sea in commercial fishing, and soon found a passion for fly fishing.

    Now Jack works as a ship’s engineer for months at a time, and spends his off months hiking and backpacking in New Zealand’s mountainous backcountry in search of trout and adventure. He sometimes travels twenty kilometers in a day for the chance to sight fish to one or two trophy sized fish that will give him the fight of his life.

    We discuss sight fishing, fighting fish, and why Jack continues to find the solitude of his time fly fishing so precious.

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    Instagram: @aussie_angler_nz

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Christy McReynolds from Jonesborough, Tennessee. Christy grew up learning to fish with her father in the lakes and rivers of East Tennessee.

    In 2011, after a devastating car accident left Christy with a broken neck, Christy turned to fly fishing and fly tying to help regain mobility and strength in her hands and arms as well as build up strength in her neck. Casting streamers quickly became her way of physically and mentally dealing with the persistent pain she experienced as a result of her injury. She and her husband Jason, enjoyed streamer fishing so much, that they started a guide service called Flying Soho, that specializes in streamer fishing for large fish on the Watauga and South Holston Rivers.

    We discuss Christy’s journey of recovery through fly fishing, and how she approaches tying and fishing streamers to help maintain her strength.

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    Flyingsoho.com
    Instagram: @flyingsoho
    Facebook: Flyingsoho

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Jon Messinger, from Denver, Colorado. Jon grew up on a ranch in Pagosa Springs, Colorado, where time on the river was part of everyday childhood play.

    He fell in love with fishing the small streams around his home, and targeting hard to reach trout he found on the San Juan River. Eventually, Jon moved to Bozeman where he began creating music and continued to fly fish. Now, Jon is back in Colorado where he guides for Colorado Trout Hunters.

    We discuss techniques for nymphing deep pools, experimentation on the river, and fishing with friends when you’re the only one not catching fish.

    More About Jon:
    Instagram: @flymessinger
    ColoradoTroutHunters.com

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    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | What Makes a Good Day's Fishing?
    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Why We Take Our Children Fly Fishing
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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Devin Olsen, from Midvale, Utah. Devin grew up fly fishing from age nine and has been casting and catching fish ever since. He has a degree in fish ecology and a master’s degree in fisheries science, has worked as a fisheries biologist, fly fishing guide, and is now the creator and owner of Tactical Fly Fisher where Devin shares gear, videos, and articles designed to help fly fishers follow in his tactical footsteps.

    Devin has participated in competition fly fishing on Team USA for over fourteen years and has been awarded numerous world championships and medals. He is the author of Tactical Fly Fishing: Lessons Learned from Competition for All Anglers, Modern Nymphing Elevated, and co-created DVDs Modern Nymphing and Adaptive Fly Fishing with friend and teammate Lance Egan. Devin is also a signature fly tier for Fulling Mill.

    We discuss attention to detail in fly fishing, casting euro rigs, weighted flies and split shot, and managing fly line.

    More About Devin

    TacticalFlyfisher.com
    Devin Olsen Signature Tyer at Fulling Mill

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Josh Gallivan, from Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
    Josh was born and raised in Jackson Hole, and started working in a fly shop while in high school. He knew early on that he wanted to be a fly fishing guide, and got plenty of practice on the oars fishing with his uncle, who helped him buy his first drift boat.

    Josh is a full time guide at Grand Teton Fly Fishing, on his home waters, the Snake River, and hosts several fly fishing trips annually to various exotic destinations.

    We discuss the diversity of the Snake River, dry dropper and dry fly presentation techniques, and the benefits of finding a hosted trip for your next fly fishing adventure.

    To learn more about Josh and the topics we discussed in this episode, or to schedule a guided trip, check out the following links:

    GrandTetonFlyFishing.com
    Instagram: @joshgallivan
    FlyOdyssey.us

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with Chelsey Christy, from Denver, Colorado. Chelsey started fly fishing on Colorado’s South Platte River and immediately caught the fly fishing bug. She was spending so much time fly fishing and in her local fly shop, that they asked her to start guiding.

    Chelsey soon began searching for a way to connect with nature and the river on her own, further from some of the pressured waters of the front range. Her searching took her to Southwestern Colorado’s many mountain creeks and streams that she now enjoys exploring and fishing on her time away from guiding.

    Chelsey is also an artist, and balances her time between guiding and painting. She has made several fishy designs for Colorado Trout Hunters Guide Service, where she also guides.

    We discuss the importance of your local guide shop when starting out, tips and tactics for high mountain creeks in Southwest Colorado, and how Christy embraces the beauty she finds in nature through her paintings.

    To learn more about Chelsey and the topics we discussed in this episode, or to schedule a guided trip, check out the following links:

    ColoradoTroutHunters.com
    ChelseyChristy.com
    IG: Trout_Christy (fishing)
    IG: Chelseychristy (art)

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  • In this episode we WadeOutThere with James Mugele from Livingston, Montana. James started fly fishing while attending college in Vermont. After befriending a retired fishing guide from out west, James found his introduction to fly fishing grounded in tying big flies and casting for Muskies.

    James’ dream became to move to Montana and fish big Western rivers with his black lab Bo as his faithful companion. After school he had saved enough to drive to Montana and stay with a friend that was guiding on the Yellowstone River. Livingston was his first stop on the road trip, and after one good float down the Yellowstone throwing hoppers he knew he was home.

    James has been guiding on the Yellowstone ever since, and recently became part owner of Hatch Finders fly shop.

    We discuss adjusting your tactics based on different flows, the Yellowstone River, and James shares some of his techniques and philosophies on fishing streamers. James also shares why even fishing dogs benefit from time on the water.

    To learn more about James and the topics we discussed in this episode, or to schedule a guided trip, check out the following links:

    HatchFinders.com

    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Don’t Let High Stream Flows Ruin Your Next Fly Fishing Trip. Part 1 of 2. Planning
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    READ: WADEOUTTHERE | Don’t Fear the Skunk. Part 1 of 2. It Happens.
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