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Sandra is the chief learning scientist at Epam Systems, a global provider of software engineering, digital platform engineering, and product development services.
Interestingly, EPAM has been on a skills-based journey for over 30 years and is as close an example as you’ll find of a skills-based organization.
Sandra has been a proud advocate of Epam’s journey and helped build the critical foundations with ups and downs!
Key topics in this episode:
Should every organization become skills-based?
Matching skills supply & demand data
The EPAM way and how they stand out in the market
The importance of skills data for the business
Skepticism about skills-based initiatives
Explore how Sandra’s expertise can inspire your journey toward a skills-based organization.
My key takeaway quotes:
“Skills are owned by the business (...). It’s impossible for a people organization to know what skills are trending, what skills are critical, and start predicting skills needed."
"Have someone come in and look at your ecosystem - chances are you have redundancies & gaps."
“How long will it take to be a skills-based organization? It is a long-term play because it’s a data play.”
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Gina Jeneroux is the former Chief Learning Officer at BMO Financial Group, where she gained years of experience in enterprise learning and skills strategies, design, operations, and governance.
She now sits at the intersection of AI, skills, and industry as the Chief Skills & Innovation Officer at Executive Networks, Professor of Practice in Future Work & Skills, and Director of the Future Talent Research Institute at International Business University (IBU).
We cover many topics, including:
The skills agenda moving beyond learning How to create business buy-in for skills-based journeys How to select HRtech vendors Leading with strategy & following with technology Managing learning as a businessMy key takeaway quotes:
“Look for the 'wind in the sails' moments .(...) you need to be opportunistic" "You need to build a Coalition of Belief" "The best choice around vendors is to find a match on vision & values"See here for additional reads to this conversation:
Online Guide to get started with skills -
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Josh Tarr is the Director of Skills-Based Organizations (SBOs) at Workday. He and his team are fully committed to the concept of skills-driven organizations for Workday's internal workforce. In this interview, we explore Josh's vision for SBOs and the steps he has taken to achieve it.
We cover many topics, from the hype cycle around SBOs to Workday’s skills transformation journey, practical milestones the team has already achieved, and the importance of skills use cases.
My key takeaway quotes:
“We view this work as entrepreneurial work. (...) It’s like starting up a new business.” “We got started with data.” “Together (with TechWolf), we did in 3 months what other companies do in 18” “The value chain of skills is easy, the work is definitely not easy.”See here for additional reads to this conversation:
My reflection blog after the interview HR Brew's article on Workday's Skills Use Case
