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  • People with OCD often feel trapped by strict rules in their daily lives. These unwritten rules might mean always trying to control their thoughts, constantly seeking certainty, seeing anxiety as a sign of immediate danger, feeling personally responsible for preventing harm, analyzing every thought meticulously, striving for perfection in everything, and keeping their struggle with OCD hidden from others.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans, a licensed professional counselor and licensed marriage and family therapist with over 20 years of experience. Dr. Evans is the author of "Breaking the Rules of OCD: Find Lasting Freedom from the Unwanted Thoughts, Rituals, and Compulsions that Rule Your Life,"

    During the conversation, Dr. Evans discusses treating OCD and anxiety disorders, focusing on the core issue of agency loss. She emphasizes that individuals with OCD often feel compelled to perform rituals, believing they lack choice, and advises recognizing one's agency to make different choices.

    Her book outlines seven rules to break OCD's grip, including challenging perfectionism, embracing uncertainty, and addressing discomfort intolerance. The episode also clarifies ERP therapy misconceptions and normalizes setbacks as growth opportunities. Dr. Evans introduces Aikido principles as a metaphor for managing OCD triggers, advocating redirecting energy rather than confrontation.

    She concludes with the "PASSION" acronym: Pause, Pivot, and Proceed; Accept Experiences; Strengthen Your Stance; Practice Self-Compassion; Invite Exposure; Observe Thoughts; and Stay Present. These principles help individuals build resilience and live fulfilling lives free from OCD constraints.

    In This Episode

    [01:23] The motivation behind writing her book [02:32] The seven rules of OCD[04:11] Common misconceptions about OCD[05:37] Blending therapy approaches in the book[07:08] Challenges and relapses in OCD treatment[08:38] Making therapy accessible[10:15] Mindfulness and agency in OCD treatment[13:42] Mindfulness during exposure[18:23] The power of mindfulness[20:32] The most important rule to break[21:29] The resistance battle[23:03] Aikido principles[26:31] Passion acronym

    Notable Quotes

    [04:11] “There have been many tears of relief shed in my office when people find out that they're not broken.”- Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans

    [10:57] “We all want to feel good and we all want to do things that will help us feel better.” Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans

    [17:37] “If people can get in touch with what a chore it is to do the compulsion, then that's an incentive to not resist so much but actually to learn to allow.” Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans

    [21:29] “'What you resist keeps persisting. It’s a counterintuitive thing, and when you resist, you can notice this battle within yourself.”-Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans

    [23:03] “If you notice that OCD trigger, rather than going straight into the compulsion, pause and say, "I have an opportunity to learn here."' Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans

    [26:31] “You can live your life with passion even though OCD shows up sometimes.” Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans

    Our Guest

    Dr. Kim Rockwell-Evans, PhD, LPC, LMFT, has specialized in anxiety and OCD treatment in Dallas for 30+ years. Recognized throughout North Texas and Oklahoma, she integrates cutting-edge therapies like CBT and ACT to empower patients to confront fears and lead fulfilling lives, offering practical, evidence-based solutions for lasting results.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans

    https://ocdanxietydallas.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimrockwellevanshttps://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094019790453&_rdc=1&_rdr

    Mentioned

    Breaking the Rules of OCD" by Dr. Kim Rockwell EvansThe Miracle of Mindfulness" by Thich Nhat Hanh

    Disclaimer

    Please note, that while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Is it possible that the meticulous and often relentless nature of OCD could fuel the creative genius behind some of the most iconic music in the industry?

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Tyler Falcoa, an indie pop artist, music producer, and mixed engineer, discusses the intricate relationship between creativity and obsessive-compulsive Disorder (OCD). Tyler, who has managed OCD since the age of ten, shares his journey, coping mechanisms, and the impact of OCD on his creative process. Tyler shares how his OCD, triggered by traumatic events, impacts his creativity and daily life. He discusses the importance of structure in his work, the challenges of self-doubt, and the role of social media in finding support. Tyler highlights the duality of OCD, acknowledging both its debilitating effects and its contribution to his strengths. The episode concludes with messages of hope and resources for managing OCD.

    In This Episode

    [00:43]- Introduction to Tyler Falcao[01:15]- How OCD impacts creativity [05:48]- Tyler’s early trauma and OCD [10:37] - Tyler on his journey to discovering OCD [11:25] - Social media and learning about OCD[12:28] - Managing OCD in creative work [16:05] - Mentorship and examples [17:14] - Creativity and OCD [19:05] - Positive aspects of OCD [21:20] -Tyler’s message of hope

    Notable Quotes

    [10:06] “You have these intense bouts of emotions that just rip you, and this gridlock in thoughts that are racing at the speed of light, and you just can't figure out what's up or down or left or right" Tyler Falcoa[08:34] “I unfortunately did ERP by myself before I started seeing my current therapist, which made things much worse for me.”-Tyler Falcao[13:10] "I had to be able to work through my OCD and the intrusive thoughts, and the fact that my mother was in the hospital while also trying to write a song for my job.’Tyler Falcoa[17:24] "'For me, my OCD has been debilitating and part of very dark times in my life. But I am extremely dependable, very prompt, and extremely organized. That is my way of control for my life."Tyler Falcoa[18:43] "No matter where you are in your OCD journey, it is absolutely possible to get to a place where it becomes more manageable.” Tyler Falcoa

    Our Guest

    Tyler Falcao, also known by his stage name TY Falcao, is an indie pop artist, music producer, and mix engineer. Rising to prominence as part of the brother duo Tyler and Ryan, Tyler has managed OCD since he was ten years old, triggered by a traumatic football injury and a house fire. Despite these challenges, he has turned his experiences into a source of strength. Through his music and podcast, "Please Excuse My OCD," Tyler shares insights and coping mechanisms, offering a unique perspective on living with OCD.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Tyler Falcoa

    https://www.instagram.com/TylerFalcoa/https://www.tiktok.com/@tylerfalcoa?lang=enhttps://web.facebook.com/OfficialTylerFalcoa/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    Mentioned

    Podcast: Please excuse my OCD

    Disclaimer

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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  • Have you ever considered the impact of accurate diagnosis, effective treatment, and community advocacy on the well-being of individuals struggling with mental health conditions such as Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder (DPDR)? Understanding the significance of these factors can make a profound difference in the lives of those grappling with these conditions.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are joined by Elysse Lescarbeau, known as OCD.or.just.me on Instagram, to discuss her journey with OCD and Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder (DPDR). Elysse's story is a powerful testament to the importance of accurate diagnosis, effective treatment, and the role of community and advocacy in mental health.

    During the conversation, Elysse shares her journey of being diagnosed with OCD in September 2022 after years of struggling with depersonalization and derealization (DPDR). She discusses how exposure and response prevention (ERP) and acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) have been pivotal in her treatment. Elysse emphasizes the importance of understanding the anxiety cycle, living by one's values, and the role of self-compassion in overcoming setbacks. She also highlights her advocacy work and introduces new resources for managing anxiety.

    In This Episode

    [01:41] Elysse’s thoughts on OCD treatment and recovery[05:36] Understanding the anxiety cycle[08:43] Incorporating values and ACT[13:48] Managing anxiety and building resilience[16:34] The realization of DP/DR[17:37] Discovering OCD and DP/DR[18:41] The power of representation[19:42] Advocacy work and awareness[21:06] Resources for help and education

    Notable Quotes

    [10:06] "When you are able to live by your values, your life becomes so much bigger, your life becomes so much more meaningful. You feel like you can take on the world and actually be the person that you want to be."- Elysse Lescarbeau[12:50] "You have to have that willingness to just go into these situations and say, yeah, I will be anxious and that's okay. It doesn't need to control me."- Elysse Lescarbeau[17:24] "I think, the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced in my life, just the fear of, for me, the way it manifested was literally losing my personality."- Elysse Lescarbeau[18:43] "Getting the OCD diagnosis, realizing that was something I had and could be treated, but then also seeing that DPDR was a thing that affected so many people and that it wasn't just me because I was crazy, was mind-blowing."- Elysse Lescarbeau[19:55] "The advocacy work that so many more people are now doing through Instagram, TikTok, whatever it might be, is so important because you can realize within yourself, like, wow, this isn't just me and my crazy mind; this is something other people experience, and I can get help for it."- Elysse Lescarbeau

    Our Guest

    Elysse Lescarbeau (@ocd.or.just.me) brings a wealth of personal experience with mental health issues and diagnoses. For a long time, she struggled in silence, unaware that her obsessive thoughts and mental compulsions were symptoms of OCD—she believed they were simply part of who she was. It wasn't until a year after being hospitalized for suicidal ideation that she received a long-overdue OCD diagnosis and began appropriate treatment. Now, Elysse is dedicated to sharing the knowledge she wished she had during her journey. She aims to educate others on the diverse presentations of OCD, which often differ from common media portrayals, and to highlight how gold-standard therapy techniques can address more than just acute symptoms. Elysse's mission is to demonstrate that recovery and a less anxious life are truly possible.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Elysse Lescarbeau

    https://www.instagram.com/ocd.or.just.me/https://stan.store/ocdorjustme

    Mentioned

    Book: Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your LifeThe Values in Action Digital Workbook

    Disclaimer

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Parenting can be really hard when your child is dealing with anxiety or OCD. Ever stayed up late worrying about them? It feels like a big, confusing maze, doesn't it? But don't worry, you're not alone.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are thrilled to sit down with Dr. Stephen Whiteside, a renowned clinical psychologist and a beacon of hope for families grappling with childhood anxiety and OCD.

    During the conversation we talk about his book "Anxiety Coach" and his specialized approach to treating childhood anxiety and OCD. We explore the importance of exposure therapy, the role of parents in treatment, and the challenges of diagnosing OCD in children. Dr. Whiteside shares insights on the stigma surrounding OCD and the benefits of group therapy, while emphasizing privacy in group settings. He discusses the effectiveness of his parent coach exposure therapy, citing research and positive outcomes from the Mayo Clinic's intensive treatment program. Resources and support options are highlighted, including the Anxiety Coach at Mayo Clinic website, which offers educational tools and details about their five-day intensive program. The episode concludes with encouragement for those on their journey to overcoming OCD.

    In This Episode

    [01:11] The Anxiety Coach Book[02:07] Differences in approach[04:13] Components of the approach[07:40] Content of the book[08:32] Identifying anxiety disorders[10:39] Signs in pediatric population[12:25] Challenges in diagnosing OCD[14:56] Therapist misinterpretation of OCD[16:00] Stigma and judgment[16:59] Benefits of group therapy[18:34] Outcomes of parent-coached exposures[21:14] Empowering families

    Notable Quotes

    [02:11] "The main component of the treatment for anxiety or OCD is helping kids learn through their own experience that what they're afraid of is unlikely to happen, and they can handle feeling nervous, worried, or uncomfortable until those feelings go away."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside[03:08] "We think that all kids will be more successful if they have someone to help them at home, and parents want to know what to do to be helpful."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside[09:55] "When fears and worries are excessive to the point that they're making life hard, distressing the child, or getting in the way of the parents' life, that's the time we need to start working on it."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside[16:59] "It's like this happens often enough that somebody wrote it down in a book, so I am clearly not the only one."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside[18:34] "We have some pretty good answers to that, but a lot more research needs to be done in general around child mental health."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside[21:14] "It's obvious to me that parents can learn to do this, and kids and parents can learn to do this together."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside

    Our Guest

    Dr. Stephen Whiteside is a Board Certified Licensed Clinical Psychologist and Associate Professor of Psychology at Mayo Clinic College of Medicine, directs the Child and Adolescent Anxiety Disorders Program. With extensive experience in treating child, adolescent, and adult anxiety disorders, he's received grants from the Obsessive-Compulsive Foundation for neuroimaging studies on OCD. Dr. Whiteside's research focuses on childhood anxiety and treatment efficacy, reflected in numerous publications and national presentations.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Dr. Stephen Whiteside

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/biographies/whiteside-stephen-p-ph-d-l-p/bio-20054748

    Mentioned

    Book: Anxiety Coach: A Parent’s Guide to Treating Childhood Anxiety and OCDWebsite: https://anxietycoach.mayoclinic.org/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Have you ever wondered what it would be like to have a loved one - your sister, brother, or daughter - battling with intrusive thoughts and engaging in relentless rituals due to OCD? How can families effectively provide the necessary support to help them navigate OCD's grip on their daily lives?

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we have the pleasure of conversing with an extraordinary young author, Ella Kim, whose personal story and literary contributions are making waves in the world of mental health advocacy. Ella Kim is a high school student who has authored "How to Defeat Bully Brain," a book that serves as a beacon of hope for children and families grappling with OCD.Ella's motivation to pen this book was deeply personal; her brother's diagnosis with OCD at a tender age was the catalyst that propelled her into action.

    In our conversation, Ella discusses her brother's struggle with OCD, the impact on her family, and the importance of proper support and understanding. She shares her family's journey, including her brother's improvement after a gap year program abroad. Ella also talks about her nonprofit, “OCD Detectives” and her upcoming book on various OCD manifestations.

    In This Episode

    [01:35] - The idea behind writing the book.[02:04] - Navigating OCD as a family[03:11] - Challenges and frustration[06:12] - Impact on the family[08:02] - Creating a story about OCD[09:59] - The staircase method[11:15] - Spreading awareness through a book[12:11] - Different types of obsessions and compulsions[14:31] - Understanding the changing nature of OCD[15:30] - Defining OCD[16:43] - Recovery and struggle[18:06] - Tools and understanding[18:30] - Contact information

    Notable Quotes

    [02:07]” I went into this deep dive and I kind of looked at OCD resources out there, and I found that there weren't that many children's books that were like workbooks that kind of went into how to deal with your OCD.” -Ella[05:16] “There's times when your OCD is worse and when it's better. And so sometimes when just OCD would be worse, it would kind of impact the entire family." -Ella[06:12] "Initially, everyone got frustrated because of the mess, but then you have to look past that and realize that he just needs more help rather than getting mad at him." Ella[07:14] "Remind them constantly to say no to OCD and give them reasons why, like not having to spend hours a day washing your hands or not feeling uncomfortable for over half the day." -Ella[17:36] "During his gap year, even without active therapy, being preoccupied with volunteer work abroad helped him improve significantly."-Ella

    Our Guest

    Ella Kim, a high school student from New York City, has a keen interest in psychology and the treatment of mental and behavioral disorders. Motivated by her brother's diagnosis of OCD at a young age, she decided to write "How to Defeat Bully Brain" to assist young children and their families in combating OCD.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Ella Kim

    https://defeatbullybrain.com/https://www.instagram.com/ocd_detectives/

    Mentioned

    Book: How to Defeat Bully Brain: A Story About OCD

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Imagine this: your ten-year-old son is diagnosed with OCD, and you witness the daily struggles he faces. Through the transformative power of proper treatment, you see him begin to thrive. Yet, in a world where many are lost and unsure how to find resources, access care, or even recognize the signs, you're compelled to take action.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Kim Vincenty. Kim is a remarkable woman whose personal experience with OCD has led her to become a staunch advocate for mental health education and support. She is also the founder of the JACK Mental Health Advocacy organization and a recent recipient of the IOCDF Hero award.

    In our conversation, Kim shares her personal journey with her son's OCD diagnosis and how it inspired her to help others. We discuss JACK's initiatives, including the Access to Care program, Pediatric OCD Camp, and training for clinicians. The conversation highlights the importance of community, early intervention, and parental support in managing OCD. Kim's commitment to improving mental health education and resources for families shines through as she details her advocacy work.

    In This Episode

    [00:42]Introduction to Kim Vincenty[01:38] Kim's journey into OCD advocacy[03:28] Kim's experiences supporting families and caregivers[06:12] Overview of the JACK Mental Health Advocacy [08:13] The Access to Care program[09:23] The Pediatric OCD Camp program[09:37] Benefits of the Pediatric OCD Camp program[15:47] Parent involvement in the Pediatric OCD Camp[17:34] Motivating and supporting children with OCD[20:01] The impact of Advocacy

    Notable Quotes

    [01:38] “I'm the mother of someone that lives with OCD. He was diagnosed when he was ten years old, and it quickly spiraled out of control.” -Kim[03:28] "I stayed up all night obsessing about it... I just kind of dug in my heels and decided I was going to learn everything I could because my kid was not going down under my watch."- Kim[08:04] “We're starting a network of clinicians that are willing to work with us to provide care for people that would otherwise receive no treatment at all.” -Kim[12:31] “No matter where you go or if you have OCD or not, you have to have opportunities to get comfortable with uncertainty and discomfort.”-Kim[15:02] “If the parents are engaged and everybody's on the same page, the treatment outcomes are better.”-Kim

    Our Guest

    Kim Vincenty is a devoted mother, wife, and OCD advocate, with over 12 years of experience fostering community and aiding families in finding the best resources for mental health, education, intervention, and recovery. As the former president of OCD Jacksonville, an affiliate of the international OCD Foundation, Kim's advocacy work earned her the prestigious IOCDF Hero Award. She is an active speaker, support group facilitator, and the founder and president of JACK Mental Health, dedicated to promoting mental health awareness and providing support to those in need. Kim's passion, dedication, and tireless advocacy make her a respected figure in the mental health community.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Kim Vincenty

    https://jackmha.org/team/https://www.facebook.com/jackmha.orghttps://www.instagram.com/jack_mha/https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064234050479

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Can you imagine a nightly battle where the battleground isn't just your bed, but your own mind? Welcome to the sleepless world of individuals wrestling with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), where intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and the haunting spectre of false memories turn the quest for rest into a Herculean task.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with mental health counsellor Alnardo Martinez to discuss the difficulties people with OCD encounter when trying to sleep, focusing on the impact of intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and particularly false memory OCD. Martinez offers strategies to manage rumination and improve sleep hygiene, such as using guided meditations and accepting uncertainty. He also emphasizes the importance of working with a therapist and tailoring treatment approaches like ERP, CBT, or ACT to individual needs. The episode concludes with resources for listeners and encouragement for those on their journey to overcoming OCD.

    In This Episode

    [01:20] Understanding the impact of OCD on sleep.[02:23] Common issues with sleep and OCD.[03:52] Strategies for improving sleep hygiene.[06:01] Addressing intrusive thoughts and compulsions.[08:04] Supporting a loved one with OCD and sleep issues.[13:31] Understanding false memory OCD and its impact on sleep.[16:35] False memory OCD and sleep.[17:16] Neutralizing rumination.[18:50] Accepting uncertainty.

    Notable Quotes

    [02:23] "I think a lot of the clients I work with will often say that sleep is a big factor. It's usually interrupted, they get poor sleep, or the quality of sleep isn't good."[08:04] "I think first you want to try to validate those feelings. You want to try to not be dismissive. You don't really want to say, 'Oh, it's not a big deal, just go to sleep.'"[14:24]"What tends to happen, more so like compulsion-wise, could be replaying situations over and over in their mind, trying to convince themselves, 'No, I remember checking out, I remember buying these things.'"[16:35]"This person could be an adult and have a false memory that something happened to them when they were six years old, and that's really not a situation you're going to be able to go back and find any evidence of happening or not happening."[17:16] "I recognize that this is an OCD thought. I may not ever have full understanding of whether this did or didn't happen, and I'm going to work on being accepting of that."[19:21] "If you're taking an ERP approach, it should be a gradual approach. Maybe you're not sitting with that feeling for something that's a really distressing false memory thought; maybe you've started with one that's a little less anxiety-producing."

    Our Guest

    Alnardo Martinez, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor at the Child Mind Institute, brings over 10 years of expertise in diagnosing and treating OCD and anxiety disorders in children and adolescents. Certified in administering the ADOS-2, he employs tailored interventions such as CBT, ERP, mindfulness, and ACT techniques. Fluent in Spanish, Alnardo conducts workshops on children's mental health and provides bilingual neuropsychological evaluations, dedicated to empowering youth to thrive.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Alnardo Martinez

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alnardo/https://childmind.org/bio/alnardo-martinez-ms/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Have you ever considered the profound impact of justice-oriented treatment in the context of OCD, particularly when it intersects with sensitive issues like race-based OCD? How do we create an environment where individuals, especially those from BIPOC communities, feel safe to openly discuss their fears and intrusive thoughts without the burden of judgment or dismissiveness?

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to welcome Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe from ERP Kaleidoscope to discuss justice-oriented OCD treatment. They explore how to support BIPOC clinicians and individuals with OCD, emphasizing the need for a safe, empowering environment. The co-founders share insights on incorporating justice into ERP therapy and tackling race-based OCD. They advocate for diversity, clinician empowerment, and education on sensitive OCD themes, providing practical advice for therapists to effectively address these issues in their practice.

    In This Episode

    [00:03]Introduction to Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe[02:39] Explanation of the name ERP Kaleidoscope[05:28] The concept of justice-oriented OCD treatment[07:57]Strategies to support BIPOC clinicians[10:17] Concrete example of justice-oriented ERP[11:47] Client's race-based OCD[13:56] Empowerment and advocacy for clinicians[15:46] Tangible exposures for clients[18:00] The importance of understanding core fears[19:41] Intersectionality in OCD treatment[23:04] Educating clinicians on cultural awareness[24:08] Impact on access and quality of care[25:58] Contact information for further support

    Notable Quotes

    [03:04] “ERP kaleidoscope is all about uplifting the voices of BIPOC clinicians who specialize in OCD as well as the individuals.”- Bianca [04:25] “Oftentimes when people think about OCD, they think about the suffering, and it's really hard to see the beauty. And so we really wanted to highlight how ERP brings out that beauty.”- Erin [06:58] “BIPOC clinicians have to be able to feel safe because that's the only way that they can not only do good work with BIPOC individuals living with OCD but all individuals that have OCD.” -Erin[17:12] “Some clinicians of color have no idea that there is this theme that also latches on to race and so that can be very blindsiding.”- Erin [20:42] “What we're trying to do at ERP kaleidoscope as well, building those safe spaces in terms of healing circles, and just allowing that time for clinicians to be able to heal.”- Bianca

    Our Guests

    Bianca Simmons, an OCD specialist, co-founded ERP Kaleidoscope and owns Bianca Simmons LLC, a mental health private practice in Texas. With extensive experience in severe OCD treatment, she transitioned from managing a residential facility to providing outpatient therapy. Committed to accessibility, she focuses on supporting individuals from underrepresented communities and minority populations, ensuring they have access to the quality mental health assistance they need and deserve.

    Erin Nghe is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, and co-founder of ERP Kaleidoscope, a network association supporting Bipoc individuals with OCD and therapists interested in OCD treatment. With 15+ years of experience, she's also the owner and Clinical Director of OCD Set Free, training therapists along the East Coast in Ethical OCD Treatment. Erin advocates for OCD awareness, serving on the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Action Council of the International OCD Foundation and as a faculty member for their Behavioral Therapy Training Institute.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Bianca Simmons

    https://www.biancasimmonslpc.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-bianca-simmons/https://www.instagram.com/therapywithbiancahttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064234050479

    Erin Nghe

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinnghe/https://www.ocdsetfree.com/https://www.instagram.com/ocdsetfree/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • In a society that is gradually breaking down the barriers surrounding mental health, it's disheartening to witness the lingering shadows of stigma that continue to hinder progress. Marginalized communities often struggle to access support and treatment for OCD despite the fact that it affects people from all walks of life.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to speak with Alexandra Reynolds, a mental health graduate student and IOCDF Advocate.

    During our conversation, Alexandra discusses the unique challenges faced by marginalized communities, including the LGBTQ community and people of color, in accessing OCD treatment and overcoming cultural stigma. She shares her personal journey of self-acceptance and the importance of finding supportive communities outside of family systems. The conversation also touches on the role of technology in building connections and the significance of prioritizing mental health. Alexandra offers hope to listeners, affirming that everyone is worthy of recovery and a fulfilling life beyond OCD.

    In This Episode

    [00:42] Introduction to Alexandra [02:07] Stigma and access to treatment[04:27] Cultural differences in mental health[06:40] Family dynamics and acceptance[09:54] Navigating identity and acceptance[11:48] Seeking support and advocacy[16:43] Building supportive communities[18:12] Acceptance and building relationships[18:39] Challenges of being open about OCD[19:18] Encouragement to seek support[20:35] Alexandra’s word of hope: Worthiness of recovery

    Notable Quotes

    [05:37] "I had people tell me that the reason I have mental illness is because I am possessed by a demon and that I just need an exorcism.” -Alexandra[17:14] “Life is still kind of unfair and I can't be out everywhere and not everyone accepts me or understands me, but also, I have some really amazing humans in my life who do.'" -Alexandra [18:39] "You may live in a place where you can't tell everyone you have OCD, or you may work at a place where you can't tell everyone you have OCD.” -Alexandra [20:35] “You are totally worthy of it. OCD, stigma, shame, societal expectations—they make us feel that we're not worthy for all these different reasons. But that's not true.” -Alexandra

    Our Guest

    Alexandra Reynolds is a dedicated IOCDF Advocate and mental health graduate student, committed to raising awareness of OCD and providing evidence-based support. Her personal journey with OCD fuels her mission, especially in advocating for marginalized communities. As a first-generation Latinx, she actively works to destigmatize mental health care.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Alexandra Reynolds

    https://www.instagram.com/alexandraisobsessed/?hl=enhttps://www.tiktok.com/@alexandraisobsessed

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • In our ever-evolving understanding of mental health, we often fixate on finding a cure or a quick fix for conditions like OCD. But what if we reframed our approach to embrace a journey of skill-building instead? This powerful concept lies at the core of Mark's advocacy for individuals living with OCD.

    Join us in today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, where we're thrilled to welcome Mark Freeman, a renowned mental fitness coach and author of "You Are Not a Rock." With over 4 million views on his YouTube channel, Mark's empowering approach to mental health is both refreshing and inspiring.

    During our conversation, we delve into the concept of OCD recovery, emphasizing skill development over the idea of being "recovered." Mark uses the analogy of learning to swim to illustrate managing life with OCD, highlighting adaptability and setting intentions to stay present amidst intrusive thoughts. We also explore the "uncertainty budget" and the impact of a rapidly changing world on mental health.

    Join us for insights into gradual tool adoption and the importance of avoiding instant solutions. Don't miss out!

    In This Episode

    [00:57] Mark Freeman's YouTube channel[03:10] Approaching recovery[05:42] Flexibility in mental health[07:46] Understanding recovery[08:51] Tools for managing OCD[13:30] Sitting with fear[15:57] Quality time with friends and intrusive thoughts[16:41] Setting intentions in social situations[17:35] Cutting out compulsions and fears[19:37] Starting with the basics[20:24] Accepting imperfection and practice[22:14] Adapting to modern-day stress[23:09] Managing uncertainty budget[25:08] Gratitude and finding stability

    Notable Quotes

    [03:57] "What helped me is approaching recovery as more like learning how to swim." -Mark[17:35]"I want to get good at having conversations with people in choppy water while having angry monsters and intrusive thoughts, and that's what I'm going there to practice." - Mark[18:37] "I've been teaching my brain all day through all these kind of normal activities that we should control what other people think, so it's natural I'll just want to keep doing that in that situation."- Mark[25:52]” Everybody, take care of your uncertainty budget; you don't have uncertainty credit cards, you can't go over budget.- Mark

    Our Guests

    Mark Freeman is a seasoned data strategist likening data management to racing - a vital yet often overlooked component. With a passion for integrating data seamlessly into tech ecosystems, he champions the concept of "shifting data left," advocating for collaboration between data and software engineering teams. Mark's expertise lies in optimizing data flow, ensuring businesses harness their data assets effectively for success.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Mark Freeman

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/mafreeman2/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJzijIM4ED3ukn0GJRWZwhwhttps://www.instagram.com/markwfreeman/https://linktr.ee/mwfreeYT/everybodyhasabrain

    Mentioned Book

    You Are Not a Rock:https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Rock-Step-Step/dp/0143132601

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Have you ever wondered why some people don't seem to have success with ERP therapy, despite its proven effectiveness? ERP has helped countless individuals regain control of their lives and find relief from the debilitating symptoms that often accompany anxiety disorders.

    However, it's essential to recognize that despite the effectiveness of ERP therapy, there are common mistakes that people make which can hinder their progress

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, sit down with Ben Eckstein, a renowned expert in the treatment of anxiety and OCD, and the owner and director of City Anxiety and OCD Treatment Center in Durham, North Carolina.

    During our conversation, we explore the nuances of treating OCD with exposure and response prevention (ERP). We discuss the importance of managing mental compulsions and rumination, emphasizing the need for a diverse set of coping skills and intentional practice. Our conversation also covers the influence of attachment styles on OCD and the significance of addressing underlying psychological factors. Ben shares insights on building trust in relationships and concludes by discussing his book, "Worrying is Optional."

    In This Episode

    [00:43] Introduction to Ben[01:26] Ben’s involvement with OCD North Carolina[02:59] Identifying ERP pitfalls[04:46] White knuckling and acceptance[06:19] Approaching uncomfortable feelings[15:57] Managing downtime and mental compulsions[25:38] Developing diverse coping skills[28:17] Attachment theory in the context of OCD[31:13] Trusting in yourself and others[32:38] The role of experiential learning

    Notable Quotes

    [05:32] "Acceptance is a process, it's not an outcome." - Ben[12:34] “I think that process of worrying, ruminating all the, the sort of over-analysis and examination that we do, these are complicated behaviors.” -Ben [29:23]” I always think OCD is lazy. Like it's going to take the easiest path to like, hey, like where is this person vulnerable.” -Ben

    Our Guests

    Ben Eckstein is the owner and director of Bull City Anxiety & OCD Treatment Center, he moved from Massachusetts to North Carolina in 2014. Trained at McLean Hospital’s OCD Institute, he boasts over a decade of experience in treating OCD and Anxiety Disorders. Serving as VP of OCD North Carolina, Ben offers training and workshops, alongside his clinical work. He is also the author of "Worrying is Optional" a book that tackles anxiety and rumination head-on.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Ben Eckstein

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-eckstein-ba395919/https://www.bullcityanxiety.com/https://www.instagram.com/bullcityanxiety/

    Mentioned

    Worrying Is Optional

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Did you know that our genes can tell a story about our predisposition to OCD and addiction? Well, our genetic makeup isn't our destiny, but rather a blueprint that can be influenced by our environment. It's fascinating to think that we have the power to turn certain genes on or off!

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to welcome Dr. Evelyn Higgins, a trailblazer in understanding the intricate dance between our genes and our environment, especially when it comes to OCD and addiction.

    During our conversation, we talk about the genetic and environmental aspects of OCD and addiction. We explore how personalized lab work can reveal unique physiological traits and genetic predispositions that contribute to these conditions. Dr. Higgins emphasizes the importance of understanding one's genetic makeup to make informed choices and potentially alter the expression of genes through environmental changes. We also discuss the affordability and accessibility of personalized treatment, the potential for insurance coverage, and the services offered by Wired Bio Health.

    In This Episode

    [02:26] - Genetic standpoint of OCD and addiction[03:29] - Impact of environmental factors on gene expression[10:52] - Correlation between OCD and addiction[14:19] - Importance of personalized lab work[16:47] - Overview of traditional approaches to treating OCD[18:58] - Affordability and insurance coverage[20:43] - Accessibility and flexibility of treatment[22:44] - Advancements in mental health and addiction treatment[23:41] - The future of mental health screening

    Notable Quotes

    [02:38] "We're not healthy one day and sick the next, or healthy one day and addicted the next. It's all the living that we do in between that brings us to either end of that spectrum." - Dr. Evelyn Higgins[02:50] “From a symptomatic standpoint, there are so many correlations that we see that bring somebody towards the addiction side of things, be it anxiety, be it depression, be it agitation.” - Dr. Evelyn Higgins[18:35] "There are so many more advances that have been made that people are not educated on and aren't using just because they don't know." - Dr. Evelyn Higgins

    Our Guest

    Dr. Evelyn Higgins is the founder and CEO of Wired Bio Health (formerly Wired for Addiction). Dr. Higgins is not only an expert in the epidemiology of addiction but also a certified addictionologist, a diplomat of the American College of Addiction Allergy and Compulsive Disorders, and a diplomat of the American Board of Disability Analysts specializing in pain management. With over 17 years dedicated to mental health and addiction research, she recently graced international stages as a TED speaker panelist, solidifying her status as a top innovator in healthcare.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Dr. Evelyn Higgins

    https://doctorhiggins.com/https://www.wiredbiohealth.com/Understanding Genetic Markers of Addiction

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Not many people fully disclose their journey with OCD. Perhaps it's the fear of acceptance or the weight of society's stigma that keeps them silent. But what if we told you that an OCD diagnosis doesn't mean a life sentence of struggle and despair? The healing starts with a simple, yet daring act - opening up.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Erica Lugo, a remarkable guest whose journey with OCD is both inspiring and enlightening. Erica's story begins with an abrupt onset of OCD symptoms that turned her life upside down. She found herself grappling with intense anxiety, sleepless nights, and a sense of dysfunction that she couldn't shake off.

    During our conversation, we discuss Erica's journey with OCD. Erica shares her initial struggle with the sudden onset of symptoms, the challenges of accepting her diagnosis, and her quest for effective treatment. She talks about the importance of addressing both the physical and psychological aspects of OCD, the impact of her public persona on her decision to be open about her condition, and the need to break the stigma surrounding mental health.

    In This Episode

    [01:05] - Erica’s Journey with OCD[02:39] - Experiences with diagnosis and treatment[05:50] - Challenges of finding appropriate treatment[05:54] - The impact of hormonal imbalance on OCD symptoms[07:40] - The use of ERP therapy[11:14] - Erica's experience as a public figure with OCD[13:39] - Transformation and healing[14:30] - The impact of OCD on life[15:19] - The importance of daily practice in managing OCD.[16:44] - Embracing the diagnosis of OCD[18:59] - The realization that compulsions are not always physical[20:02] - The impact of medication on OCD

    Notable Quotes

    [01:44] “I'm someone who I felt like I've never had any mental health battles my whole life. I've never had anxiety or depression or OCD until all of a sudden, I feel like a light switch just kind of went off.” - Erica[14:49] “In OCD, it's not a life sentence, but OCD will tell you it is.” - Erica[15:40] “It is okay to not know what's going to happen next, and it's okay to be okay with the unknown and learn to accept that.” - Erica[20:02] "Medication may not work for you, may make you sick or worse, as it did for me, but just keep going because you can get through it without medication if that's the path for you." - Erica

    Our Guest

    Erica Lugo, known from "Biggest Loser" and as a women's wellness influencer, is a loving wife and mom. Passionate about fitness, she shares tips and embraces all things Halloween and dogs. Erica, diagnosed with OCD, courageously advocates mental health awareness, inspiring others to overcome challenges. Through social media, she spreads positivity, making her a relatable and uplifting figure for those seeking a healthier, happier life.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.comKristina Orlova’s headshot courtesy of https://www.corporateheadshots.ai/

    Erica Lugo

    https://stan.store/EricaFitLovehttps://www.instagram.com/ericafitlove/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Do thoughts of religious sin and moral purity consume your every waking moment, leaving you trapped in a never-ending cycle of guilt and doubt?

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast we are joined by Justin Hughes, a licensed professional counselor with dual expertise in psychology and theology, Justin brings to the table a wealth of vital knowledge on the intersection of faith and OCD.

    During our conversation, we shine a light on a lesser-known facet of OCD: scrupulosity. This variant explores an individual's deepest discomforts, tapping into their spiritual beliefs and creating perplexing doubts. We explore how intrusive thoughts affect individuals with faith-based OCD, providing examples like doubts about salvation or the correctness of prayers. The discussion also covers the challenges of treating scrupulosity, particularly within a religious context, and how exposure and acceptance commitment therapy can align with Christian values.

    In This Episode

    [02:36] - Understanding Scrupulosity[09:46] - Challenges and internal conflict[13:11] - Approach to treatment[16:57] - Importance of honesty and truthfulness in treatment[18:49] - Facing scrupulosity and superstitious obsessions[19:41] - Overcoming avoidance behaviors[23:07] - Paralyzing impact of scrupulosity[24:19] - Challenges in exposure therapy for scrupulosity[26:21] - Building trust and vulnerability in recovery[27:49] - Finding community and support

    Notable Quotes

    [07:32]” Most of the time, the person with OCD is, in my experience, usually pretty clear about the perspective. What they're trying to get clear on is the feeling and the fact that it feels like they're in a bad place.” - Justin[10:36] "There's hope. You're not alone; there's help. Many, many, many are walking this road currently, and many have done it before.'" - Justin [13:41] "Thoughts, whether random or intrusive, reside within us. The key is acknowledging their presence and shining light on the truth." - Justin[23:39] “I don't think scrupulosity is worse than contamination. I don't think contamination is worse than scrupulosity.” - Justin

    Our Guest

    Justin Hughes is a licensed professional counselor and owner of Dallas Counseling. He is a dedicated clinician and writer committed to supporting individuals affected by OCD. As a member of the OCD and Faith Task Force and Dallas Ambassador for OCD Texas, he leverages dual training in psychology and theology to explore the intersection of faith and OCD, offering diverse clients valuable insights and assistance.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Justin Hughes

    https://www.justinkhughes.com/https://www.instagram.com/justinkhugheslpc/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Our minds are fascinating realms capable of producing a myriad of thoughts, some fleeting and inconsequential, while others persistently tug at the edges of our consciousness. For individuals grappling with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), this mental landscape can be particularly challenging to navigate. One crucial aspect of understanding OCD lies in differentiating between automatic and intentional thoughts, unraveling the intricate dance of the mind, and shedding light on the often misunderstood concept of thought-action fusion.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Michelle Massi, a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 15 years of experience treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Michelle has a private practice in Los Angeles and has worked at the UCLA OCD Intensive Treatment Program and the UCLA Childhood OCD Anxiety and Tic Disorders Program

    During our conversation, we discussed the difference between automatic and intentional thoughts, particularly with intrusive thoughts experienced by individuals with OCD. Michelle explains the concept of thought-action fusion and emphasizes that having a thought does not define a person's character. She also discusses the role of guilt and shame in OCD, encouraging individuals to have self-compassion and recognize that everyone has negative thoughts or biases. The conversation also touches on exposure and response prevention therapy.

    In This Episode

    [03:27] Automatic and intentional thoughts[03:36] Thought-action fusion[07:31] Overly paying attention to negative thoughts[08:06] Automatic and intentional thoughts (revisited)[09:42] Labeling thoughts[13:38] Certainty and uncertainty[15:44] Imaginal exposure scripts[16:28] Pushing clients beyond normal limits[19:49] Alternative approaches to imaginal exposures[23:14] Guilt and shame from judgment[24:40] Recognizing intrusive thoughts[27:30] Self-compassion and inner conversation

    Notable Quotes

    [09:15] "If I have the thought, like, what if this bad thing happens, I have 100% control over whether or not I'm going to do anything with that thought." - Michelle[13:39] "I don't need to solve a problem that doesn't exist yet. I haven't yet stabbed somebody, so I don't need to worry about whether or not I'm going to." - Michelle[22:02] "I don't need to sit there going, 'Oh my God, I didn't die. It's like, I don't know if I did or not. And right now I'm doing the dishes, so I'm going to focus on doing the dishes. I don't need to have this argument." - Michelle[29:42] “You’re not alone. You can get help, find support, and find a community to connect with.”

    Our Guest

    Michelle Massi is a seasoned mental health professional with over 15 years of expertise in treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and anxiety disorders. As the former Associate Clinical Director at the UCLA OCD Adult Intensive Treatment Program, she navigated the complexities of comprehensive care. Michelle's commitment to advancing the field is evident through her role as an International OCD Foundation (IOCDF) BTTI faculty member and a consistent presenter at the IOCDF Conference from 2009 to 2023. With a focus on education and collaboration, she extends her impact by offering training and consultation to clinicians, clergy members, and family members, contributing to the broader mental health community.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Michelle Massi

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmassi/www.anxietytherapyla.com

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • When it comes to finding effective ways to help people dealing with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), the search for better treatments is an ongoing journey. Traditionally, we've relied on therapies and medications, but there's a new and somewhat controversial idea gaining attention – psychedelic therapy.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we have the pleasure of hosting Natalia Aíza and Matthew Williams, the founders of Kairos Wellness Collective. Natalia Aíza, an LPC is a passionate mental health advocate who has personally journeyed with OCD. Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist, brings a wealth of knowledge from his advanced degree in traditional Chinese medicine and his upbringing in South Korea. Both Natalia and Matthew have extensive knowledge about psychedelic treatment for OCD and herbal natural remedies.

    During our conversation, we discussed their holistic approach to treating OCD, incorporating traditional Chinese medicine, herbs, and psychedelic treatments like ketamine. We emphasize the importance of a controlled setting for ketamine therapy and the potential for lasting change through regular sessions and integration activities. We also discuss the need for flexibility in treating OCD, as it presents differently in each individual.

    In This Episode

    [03:30] The current research for psychedelic treatment for OCD[04:57] The shift from ego-centric OCD to ego-tonic OCD[06:35] Effects of psilocybin and ketamine on neuroplasticity and anxiety reduction[08:46] The IV setup and referral list[09:37] The science behind ketamine[17:18] Psychedelic medicine and therapy[18:13] Incorporating EMDR and safe container[19:17] Dosing and perspective with ketamine[25:14] Flexibility in OCD treatment[25:49] Kairos Wellness Collective

    Notable Quotes

    [09:43] "Am I spending my time doing the things that I care about? That's what ketamine did for me." - Natalia[19:19] “Since by nature, you know, ketamine and other psychedelics are just associative. And so we must make sure that we get you back into your body and you feel comfortable so that you're connected." - Matthew[23:14] "Ketamine is an incredibly safe drug that we know exactly how to dose it, it's been studied extensively with OCD and it's very effective." - Natalia

    Our Guests

    Natalia Aíza, a multicultural counselor, prioritizes active client participation in her modern, goal-oriented therapy. With diverse international experience, including creating a play therapy program in a Shanghai orphanage, she practices transformative therapy at Kairos Wellness Collective in Boulder, integrating outdoor activities with her therapy dog, Miszu.

    Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist rooted in Traditional Chinese Medicine, enhances well-being through personalized consultations and holistic treatments. Raised in South Korea, he combines acupressure, Tui Na massage, and dietary therapy, drawing from his own experiences with OCD and the Autistic spectrum to support individuals with Neurodiversity in customized sessions for holistic healing.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Matthew Williams and Natalia Aíza

    https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/https://www.instagram.com/kairoswellnesscollective

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • In the realm of mental health treatment, evidence-based approaches are the guiding lights that lead individuals toward recovery. The journey to understanding and effectively treating obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) has witnessed a fascinating evolution, marked by various therapeutic approaches that delve deep into the intricacies of the human mind.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are thrilled to be joined by Dr. Jon Abramowitz, a leading figure in the field of OCD research, with numerous published books and research articles to his name. He is a Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience, Research Professor of Psychiatry, and Director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Clinic at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He also runs a small practice specializing in the psychological treatment of OCD.

    During our conversation, we talked about evidence-based treatments for OCD. We discuss the effectiveness of exposure response prevention (ERP), acceptance commitment therapy (ACT), and inference-based cognitive-behavioral therapy (ICBT). Dr. Abramowitz emphasizes that all three treatments have been proven effective, but the effectiveness varies for each approach. He also highlights the importance of a therapist and client believing in the treatment. Our conversation also covers the importance of not avoiding fears and triggers and the need for more independent research on these treatments.

    In This Episode

    [01:55] Defining evidence-based treatment[05:01] The importance of therapist belief and client belief[07:27] Inference-based CBT and its differences[08:46] The cognitive component of ICBT for OCD[11:58] ACT's approach to values and exposure[16:45] Exposure therapy in ACT and ICBT[18:42] Alternative approaches to exposure[24:07] Empowering clients through exposure[24:36] The importance of engaging with fears[25:44] Recovery doesn't mean a life without triggers[26:35] Anxiety and distress management[33:26] The rise of ACT in OCD treatment[36:21] The importance of independent replications in ICBT and ACT research

    Notable Quotes

    [03:21] "My viewpoint is that there shouldn't be a versus. We're all trying to make life better for folks who have OCD, give them treatments that they need to reduce their obsessions and their compulsions." - Jon[06:11] "To have long-lasting improvement from an irrational fear as we see in OCD, the person has to face that fear. They have to engage with it and they have to learn. I can manage this." - Jon[19:08] "A person with OCD, they're not going to overcome their problem if they're not able to engage with their feared stimuli and learn something from that, that they can do it and that the situation is not as dangerous as they think."- Jon[37:57] "If we could find a treatment that works for everyone, I think we'd have a lot of people converting and giving up whatever they've been doing before." - Jon

    Our Guest

    Dr. Jon Abramowitz, PhD, ABPP, holds positions as Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience, Research Professor of Psychiatry, and Director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Clinic at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Renowned for his expertise in anxiety disorders, he has authored over 250 publications, including articles, book chapters, and books. Dr. Abramowitz is the Editor of the Journal of Obsessive–Compulsive and Related Disorders and contributes to various editorial boards. As a former president of the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapies, he plays a pivotal role in advancing the field. Recognized with prestigious awards, his influential works cater to both the general public and mental health professionals, addressing topics from overcoming OCD to stress management.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Dr. Jon Abramowitz

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-abramowitz-a159a2257/http://jabramowitz.com/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to feature Peter Cannon, a young, talented writer, and director who's making waves with his debut feature film, "Exposure". Peter's film is a breath of fresh air in the way it portrays OCD. It's not your typical Hollywood representation - it's raw, real, and resonates with the lived experiences of those battling OCD. Peter, who has personally grappled with OCD for over a decade, has poured his heart into this project, ensuring an accurate portrayal of the disorder.

    During our conversation, we discussed the importance of understanding OCD, its impact on people's lives, and how it's often misrepresented in media. Peter shares his personal experience with OCD and his desire to portray the disorder accurately in his film. We also explore the broader themes of the film, such as the correlation between OCD and drug abuse, trauma, and the effects on relationships. Peter emphasizes the film's message about accepting uncertainties, which is relevant to everyone, not just those with OCD.

    In This Episode

    [01:08] What prompted Peter to make the film "Exposure" and its connection to OCD[02:07] The limited representation of OCD in the media[05:01] Goals of the film "Exposure"[08:09] The message of the film[09:08] Living with a non-zero chance of fear[11:55] The impact of OCD on relationships[14:20] The failures of American healthcare[14:46] Correlation between trauma and OCD[18:28] The limited representation of OCD in movies

    Notable Quotes

    [01:48] “I saw many different therapists, tried many different medications, I didn't see a whole lot of representation of what OCD was, at least from where I was sitting in the media.” - Peter[01:57] “A lot of the examples I've seen of OCD, long before all this, was like Jack Nicholson in 'As Good as it Gets' or ‘Monk’. And that's not to say those representations are wrong, it's more the idea that it's a narrower definition.” - Peter[09:33] “The idea that you have to live with a non-zero chance of your worst fear happening also applies to regular people. It is a message that really resonates with folks who are in the middle of various types of OCD therapy, but it's also something that people without OCD can wrap their heads around.” - Peter[12:42] "Obsession doesn't just bring you down, but it can bring the people around you down. And that's something I feel like a lot of us can relate to.” - Peter[15:21] “OCD can show up in different ways as you either get older or have certain traumatic experiences, or you just go through puberty.” - Peter

    Our Guest

    Peter Cannon is a young writer and director who has made significant strides in the film industry. A graduate of Emerson College, Peter has directed a variety of projects, including shorts, commercials, and virtual reality experiences. His debut feature film, "Exposure," is a testament to his belief that entertainment and story can coexist and that the most potent messages can be found in genre films.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Peter Cannon

    https://www.discomfortsthepoint.com/https://www.instagram.com/exposure_movie/https://www.instagram.com/peter.cannon/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Imagine finding a new way to help with OCD that's different from the usual methods – it's called Accelerated Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS). Think of it like this: your mind sometimes gets stuck, like a skipping record. With Accelerated TMS, it's like giving your brain a gentle push to get out of that loop. This could be a big deal – a way to change things and give hope to people dealing with the ups and downs of OCD.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to be joined by two distinguished guests, Dr. Noah DeGaetano and Dr. Ryan Vidrine. Both are renowned experts in treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

    During our conversation, we talked about innovative treatments for OCD. We discuss the accelerated transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) approach, which has shown promise in treating OCD. The treatment's financial aspects and insurance coverage challenges are also addressed. The potential therapeutic benefits of substances like MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in treating mental health conditions are explored, with ongoing trials for using psilocybin in treating OCD mentioned. We conclude with a discussion on the importance of a calm and comfortable setting for therapy.

    In This Episode

    [02:23] Introduction to Accelerated TMS treatment[05:05] Insurance coverage for Accelerated TMS treatment[07:10] The cost of treatment and insurance coverage[08:12] Financial considerations and options for treatment[09:25] Results and efficacy of accelerated TMS treatment[14:31] The use of MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in treating mental health disorders[15:33] The need for more research on psilocybin for OCD[16:33] Comparing the effects of Lexapro and psilocybin on thought suppression and rumination[21:35] The setting and preparation for psilocybin therapy[23:02] The concept of set and setting in psychedelic therapy[24:59] Patient experiences with psilocybin therapy and the importance of proper design and location

    Notable Quotes

    [11:33] “TMS is a bridge. It is not the whole answer. It's like you have a different brain after you've had TMS.” - Dr. Vidrin[14:26] “In the realm of healing with MDMA, the therapy environment is the canvas where transformation takes shape—a sanctuary for profound change.” - Dr. Vidrine[18:36] “Lexapro helped with rumination, but psilocybin seemed to help a little more. And Lexapro did not help with thought suppression, and it seemed like the psilocybin did.” - Dr. DeGaetano[15:50] “A lot of times what they're doing now is low dose psilocybin and high dose psilocybin, essentially, and using psilocybin as the control for this placebo-controlled trial, which is kind of considered the gold standard in medicine.” - Dr. DeGaetano

    Our Guests

    Dr. Noah de Gaetano, a board-certified psychiatrist, serves as Chief Medical Officer at Acacia Mental Health, Sunnyvale, CA, with 15+ years of expertise. Renowned for his work in Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, he founded and directed the TMS program at Palo Alto Medical Foundation, contributing significantly to psychiatric advancements and patient care.

    Dr. Ryan Vidrine, an interventional psychiatrist, completed his residency at UC San Francisco and directed OCD services at a leading practice. With expertise in OCD and anxiety disorders, he employs medication, psychotherapy, stimulation treatments, and innovative approaches like ketamine and psychedelic therapies to guide clients toward authentic, liberated living.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Dr. Noah DeGaetano

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-degaetano-a963251/https://acaciaclinics.com

    Dr. Ryan Vidrine

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanvmd/www.ryanvmd.com https://www.instagram.com/ryanvmd/

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

  • Think about this: have you ever tried to find peace and meaning through your spiritual practices, like meditation or prayer, only to have nagging, bothersome thoughts and habits that just won't leave you alone? This is the intersection of OCD and spirituality, and it's a complex place where your quest for spiritual connection and the constant demands of OCD come together.

    In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, I’m joined by Lucy Grantz. Lucy is a licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in therapy for teens and adults struggling with OCD.

    During our conversation, we discussed the intersection of OCD and spirituality. We share personal experiences of how spiritual practices can become compulsions for individuals with OCD, such as over-reliance on tarot card readings or healers. We emphasize the importance of distinguishing between engaging in spiritual practices for connection and joy versus using them as compulsions to alleviate anxiety. Our conversation also touches on the rigidity of OCD and the need for grounding.

    In This Episode

    [01:17] The relationship between OCD and spiritual practices[04:09] Compulsive behaviors related to tarot cards and astrology[07:09] The impact of OCD on manifestation and law of attraction[08:03] How spiritual practices can become compulsions for individuals with OCD[08:57] How OCD can affect the practice of meditation[09:46] Thoughts as manifestations[17:29] Recognizing the pattern of OCD[21:11] Finding flexibility in spiritual practices[22:43] Compulsions and over-reliance on spiritual practices[23:38] Compulsive over-processing and fixation on the problem[24:11] Finding a balance between helpful practices and compulsions

    Notable Quotes

    [03:11] “I don't want to make it sound like anything I think is bad about any of these spiritual practices, but when OCD latches on, it can start to be compulsive, and that's what we want to avoid, but that's what happened to me for a long time trying to solve my own OCD before I knew I had OCD.” - Lucy[18:54] “With the law of attraction, that whole thing was like, well, I'm not manifesting what I want. So what's wrong with how I'm thinking about it? Or like I have this one bad thought and what will that mean for what I manifest?” - Lucy[24:53] “I think it's not black and white, you know. I think with this whole thing we're trying to get back to that life is gray. OCD wants it to be one or the other but there are no rights and wrongs. Everything can be helpful and it's about us finding our own path and who we really are and our own grounding versus being in a compulsion.” - Lucy

    Our Guest

    Lucy Grantz is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Minnesota, specializing in helping teens and adults overcome Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Anxiety. Drawing from her own experience with OCD, she is dedicated to supporting others through their struggles. Lucy specializes in mental compulsions, using Inference-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and collaborates with renowned expert Frederick Aardema. Her background in Buddhism and mindfulness adds a unique dimension to her therapy, and she is well-versed in Exposure and Response Prevention as well as rumination-focused CBT.

    Resources & Links

    Kristina Orlova, LMFT

    https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannelhttps://www.korresults.com/https://www.onlineocdacademy.com

    Lucy Grantz

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucy-grantz-80110626/https://www.pivotpsychmn.com/about

    **Disclaimer**

    Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

    Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!