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What do you think of when you hear the words Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DE&I)? If it's something negative, then this is the episode for you; because I'm exploring how we can transform DE&I from something theoretical but impractical to something that can really work and have a positive impact for everyone. In other words, how we can de-polarize it?
On this milestone 300th episode of the Human Risk podcast, I’m joined by three remarkable guests—Chloé Valdary, Morgan Hamel, and Peter Stein—who are working together to revolutionize how organizations approach DE&I.
Morgan, a former fashion ethicist, shares her story of navigating the challenges of DE&I while running her own business and how it led her to Chloé and Peter's groundbreaking work at The Theory of Enchantment.
Throughout the episode, we explore how their unique approach moves away from traditional and often divisive methods of addressing DE&I. Instead, they advocate for a humanistic approach that fosters genuine connection and respect, even across seemingly insurmountable divides.
If you’ve ever felt disillusioned by standard DE&I strategies, this conversation will open your eyes to a new way of thinking.
You’ll also hear about the challenges of implementing meaningful DE&I practices in today’s polarized world, with real-world examples of companies that have struggled — and sometimes failed — to get it right.
This is a refreshing and practical discussion for leaders and professionals who want to find a more sustainable, inclusive, and human-centred way to manage DE&I in the workplace.
Biography of the Guests
Morgan Hamel describes herself as a fashion ethicist and former compliance officer, now focused on exploring the intersection of ethics, reputation, and diversity in business. Morgan ran her own fashion company, The Garment, where she experienced firsthand the challenges of navigating DE&I, ultimately leading her to close the business. Passionate about finding new solutions to old problems, Morgan now collaborates with Chloe and Peter to help businesses tackle polarization and inclusivity more meaningfully.
Chloé Valdary founded The Theory of Enchantment, an innovative framework for DE&I that emphasizes compassion, curiosity, and emotional resilience. Chloé’s work has gained international recognition for its refreshing take on a traditionally contentious space. She’s committed to depolarizing organizations and fostering environments where diverse perspectives are welcomed and celebrated.
Peter Stein partners with Chloé at The Theory of Enchantment, bringing a broad humanist perspective to the world of DE&I. With a background that spans academia and business, Peter focuses on building bridges across ideological divides, helping organizations heal from the harm caused by poorly implemented DE&I practices. His work is rooted in a belief that compassion and open dialogue are key to effective change.
AI-Generated Timestamped Summary
[00:00:00] Introduction: 300th episode celebration and series overview
[00:01:00] Introducing guests: Morgan, Chloe, and Peter's unique collaboration
[00:03:00] Morgan shares her journey from running a fashion company to her current focus on ethics and DE&I.
[00:09:00] The difficulty of finding DE&I approaches that unify rather than divide.
[00:16:00] Chloe discusses the harm caused by mainstream DE&I practices and the need for more human-centered approaches.
[00:22:00] Peter shares stories of organizations harmed by divisive DE&I programs.
[00:36:00] Morgan’s reflections on the value of the Theory of Enchantment’s work in depolarizing organizations.
[00:50:00] The power of viewpoint diversity and why curiosity is key to effective DE&I.
[00:54:00] Conclusion: What to expect in future episodes featuring more in-depth interviews with each guest.Links
Theory of Enchantment website: https://theoryofenchantment.com
Morgan's website: https://www.morganhamel.com/
The Governance Certificate in Depolarization run by Morgan: https://www.cpaalberta.ca/Professional-Development/Executive-Programs/Governance-Certificate-in-De-Polarization
Jordan Peterson's interview with Chloé: https://youtu.be/3rZkv_prTOk?si=MyPXub1_0AMM-4S0
John McWhorter’s book, Woke Racism: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696856/woke-racism-by-john-mcwhorter/
Bud Light Diversity Controversy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Light_boycott -
How does neurodiversity impact creativity? On this episode, I explore the challenges of mental health and how it can be both a driver of astonishing creativity and the cause of significant pain. I believe that having conversations about mental health is crucial if we want to create an inclusive society and get the best out of everyone.
To discuss this topic, I’m joined by the incredibly talented Matt Ottley, an author, illustrator, composer, and musician whose work spans multiple mediums and touches on profound themes. Matt’s journey as a creative artist has been deeply shaped by his experiences with Type 1 Bipolar Disorder, giving him a unique, and sometimes challenging, perspective on creativity and mental health.
Together, we discuss how Matt’s mental health has influenced his artistic process, how he navigates the extreme highs and lows of bipolar disorder, and how these experiences have culminated in his latest work, The Tree of Ecstasy and Unbearable Sadness. This project is a powerful multimedia exploration of psychosis and recovery, blending music, art, and storytelling. Matt has generously shared some of his music with us for the episode, so you’ll hear his words and his art.
Whether you’re interested in how art intersects with mental health, curious about how neurodiversity shapes creativity, or simply want to hear an inspiring story of personal challenges turned into extraordinary work, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.
Biography of the Guest:
Matt Ottley is an acclaimed Australian artist, composer, author, and illustrator whose work spans multiple disciplines, including visual art, literature, and music. Born in Papua New Guinea and later raised in Australia, Matt’s career has seen him navigate a diverse range of artistic pursuits, from working as a flamenco and classical guitarist to composing orchestral works and illustrating children’s books. However, what makes Matt’s story truly compelling is how his experiences with Type 1 Bipolar Disorder have shaped his artistic journey.
In addition to being a highly respected figure in the Australian arts community, Matt’s work often delves into profound and deeply personal themes, particularly around mental health. His most recent multimedia project, The Tree of Ecstasy and Unbearable Sadness, is a powerful and immersive exploration of psychosis and recovery. This ambitious blend of visual art, music, and storytelling has been described as a groundbreaking representation of the experience of living with bipolar disorder.
Beyond his personal website, Matt’s work has been recognized globally. He has exhibited in major galleries, published numerous books, and collaborated with orchestras to create performances that fuse sound and sight. His art and music often reflect his internal experiences and challenges, offering a window into the complexities of neurodiversity.
AI-Generated Timestamped Summary of Key Points:
[00:00:00] – Introduction by Christian Hunt, explaining the episode’s focus on mental health, creativity, and neurodiversity.
[00:01:00] – Christian introduces Matt Ottley, highlighting his artistic career and experiences with bipolar disorder.
[00:03:00] – Matt describes his childhood in Papua New Guinea and Australia and how his early creative talents emerged in unique ways.
[00:07:00] – Matt discusses how bipolar disorder first began to shape his creative output and artistic development.
[00:12:00] – Explanation of bipolar disorder and its various forms, including Matt’s personal experiences with psychosis.
[00:16:00] – The relationship between extreme emotions, creativity, and mental health and how they fuel Matt’s artistic process.
[00:23:00] – Matt describes his multimedia project, The Tree of Ecstasy and Unbearable Sadness, as a portrayal of his experiences with psychosis.
[00:33:00] – Christian and Matt discuss societal challenges around neurodiversity, creativity, and the stigma attached to mental health.
[00:47:00] – Matt explains his creative process, particularly how music, art, and words are deeply intertwined in his work.
[01:01:00] – The episode concludes with reflections on empathy, neurodiversity, and the importance of understanding mental health.
Links
Matt's website: https://mattottley.com/
The Tree of Ecstasy and Unbearable Sadness: https://mattottley.com/product/tree-of-e/
CityLit Mental Wealth Festival: Saturday October 11th – Film Screening of The Tree of Ecstasy and Unbearable Sadness followed by a Q&A with Matt Ottley (via Zoom): https://www.citylit.ac.uk/events/mental-wealth-festival -
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What makes a digital workplace truly effective? In this episode, I talk to Sharon O'Dea, co-founder of Lithos Partners, about the intricacies of navigating the digital workplace.
Sharon brings her wealth of experience in digital communications and workplace strategies to the table, sharing insights on how organizations can leverage technology to enhance employee performance and mitigate human risk.
The conversation delves into the practical challenges of managing digital workplaces, from AI integration to the complexities of remote work.
Sharon also offers personal anecdotes, including her unique experiences in Iraq and Amsterdam, shedding light on how geography can shape one’s professional journey.
You'll hear about the importance of effective communication, the risks of poor digital practices, and the evolving work landscape in a post-pandemic world.
Guest Biography
Sharon is the co-founder of Lithos Partners, a boutique consultancy that specializes in digital workplace strategies and internal communications.
With a career that spans several years in communications, Sharon has a rich background in digital transformation and helping organisations navigate the complexities of the modern workplace. Her work includes guiding companies in optimising digital employee experiences, managing organisational data, and adopting effective communication practices in an increasingly digital world.
On her official website, Sharon describes herself as a digital strategist passionate about using technology to enhance human potential.
Beyond her professional achievements, she is known for her engaging social media presence, sharing insights on digital work, remote working, and her experiences living in Amsterdam.
AI-Generated Timestamped Summary
[00:00:00] Introduction to the episode and guest Sharon O'Dea.
[00:01:00] Sharon discusses her work at Lithos Partners and her focus on digital workplace strategies.
[00:02:00] Sharon's experience in Iraq working with the fledgling Iraqi Parliament.
[00:04:00] Challenges of digital communication and collaboration in a sectarian context.
[00:06:00] Sharon’s move to Amsterdam and how the city influences her work and life.
[00:10:00] The importance of intentional communication in remote work environments.
[00:16:00] Discussion on AI note-takers and the risks they pose in workplace communication.
[00:20:00] Challenges of managing organizational data in a digital workplace.
[00:28:00] The debate over remote work versus returning to the office.
[00:32:00] The role of technology in building workplace connections and engagement.
[00:39:00] How to create value in the digital workplace and avoid bad digital practices.
[00:44:00] The evolving expectations for digital experiences in the workplace.
Links
Sharon's website: https://sharonodea.com/
The Week Note that covers this episode: https://sharonodea.com/2024/08/25/weeknote-2024-34/
Sharon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharonodea/
Sharon's (now retired) account on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/sharonodea -
Introducing the Decision-Making Studio Podcast
If you’re a regular listener to the show, you’ll know that it’s all about the risks of human decision-making.
I try to bring you guests who can help us to better understand them and what we can do to mitigate them.
One of those guests is Ben Cattaneo, the host of his own podcast, which was one of the inspirations for this show.
Ben’s show used to be called The All Things Risk podcast, but he recently rebranded it to The Decision-Making Studio podcast.
To mark this he launched what he calls an ‘inbetweenisode’ — a short explainer show — on his channel. It's done with his trademark honesty, insightfulness and a touch of humour.
If you’re listening to this show, then chances are you’ll find Ben’s show interesting.
So, I thought I’d let Ben take over this channel to share why he’s changing the show’s name and breaking up with risk.
You’ll find the show on all the usual podcast platforms.
Further information and links: https://thedecisionmaking.studio/podcast
To hear Ben’s previous appearances on this show:
Ben on Decision-making (April 2024): https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/ben-cattaneo-on-decision-making-part-two/
Ben on All Things Risk (March 2020): https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/ben-cattaneo-on-all-things/
A cross-cast of this show and the All Things Risk podcast (April 2020): https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/all-things-human-risk-crosscast/ -
How can passion and irritation lead to innovation and community building?
In this episode, my guest is Danielle Letayf, the founder of Badassery, a dynamic community designed for unconventional thought leaders dedicated to igniting change.
In our discussion, we delve into the essence of community building, exploring how cognitive diversity and shared values can create spaces that foster genuine connection and innovation. Danielle shares her journey from being the daughter of immigrant parents to a mission-driven entrepreneur in technology and media.
You’ll gain insights into the art of amplifying underrepresented voices and the importance of building communities that prioritize depth over scale. Danielle discusses her approach to curating a community where members are challenged and inspired to think differently, emphasizing the power of diverse perspectives in driving meaningful change. Our conversation also touches on the personal challenges of maintaining mental health and balance while pursuing ambitious goals.
Through her experiences, Danielle illustrates the importance of aligning personal values with professional endeavours, offering a candid look at the trials and triumphs of community building.
Guest Biography
Danielle Letayf is the founder and CEO of Badassery, a membership community for unconventional thought leaders who are dedicated to igniting change. Danielle describes herself as a passionate community builder with a mission to amplify the voices and stories of those who are often overlooked. Her career spans over a decade in community building, event management, and tech, where she has worked with notable organizations, including AOL and Verizon Media.
Beyond her professional achievements, Danielle’s journey is deeply influenced by her upbringing as the daughter of immigrant parents from the Middle East. This background has shaped her understanding of community, hospitality, and the power of storytelling. Danielle is also an advocate for cognitive diversity, believing that diverse perspectives are key to creating impactful and lasting communities.
For more on Danielle’s work and her community, visit Badassery’s official website and explore her projects.
Timestamped AI-produced summary of Key Points:
[00:00:00] - Introduction to the episode and the topic of community building
[00:01:00] - Danielle Letayf’s background and the founding of Badassery
[00:03:00] - Discussion on the importance of amplifying underrepresented voices.
[00:04:00] - The role of cognitive diversity in creating a cohesive community.
[00:05:00] - Challenges and strategies in curating a community that prioritizes depth over scale.
[00:08:00] - Danielle’s personal journey from corporate life to entrepreneurship.
[00:13:00] - The impact of values on community building and personal growth.
[00:17:00] - Balancing ambition with mental health and preventing burnout.
[00:22:00] - How Danielle’s experiences in tech have influenced her approach to community building.
[00:27:00] - The importance of flexibility and adaptability in pursuing entrepreneurial goals.
Links Mentioned:
Badassery Official Website
Danielle's LinkedIn Profile -
What if we saw Artificial Intelligence as a mirror rather than as a form of intelligence?
That’s the subject of a fabulous new book by Professor Shannon Vallor, who is my guest on this episode.
In our discussion, we explore how artificial intelligence reflects not only our technological prowess but also our ethical choices, biases, and the collective values that shape our world.
We also discuss how AI systems mirror our societal flaws, raising critical questions about accountability, transparency, and the role of ethics in AI development.
Shannon helps me to examine the risks and opportunities presented by AI, particularly in the context of decision-making, privacy, and the potential for AI to influence societal norms and behaviours.
This episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of the intersection between technology and ethics, urging us to consider how we can steer AI development in a direction that aligns with our shared values.
Guest Biography
Prof. Shannon Vallor is the Baillie Gifford Chair in the Ethics of Data and Artificial Intelligence at the Edinburgh Futures Institute (EFI) at the University of Edinburgh, where she is also appointed in Philosophy.
She is Director of the Centre for Technomoral Futures in EFI, and co-Director of the BRAID (Bridging Responsible AI Divides) programme, funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council. Professor Vallor's research explores how new technologies, especially AI, robotics, and data science, reshape human moral character, habits, and practices.
Her work includes advising policymakers and industry on the ethical design and use of AI. She is a standing member of the One Hundred Year Study of Artificial Intelligence (AI100) and a member of the Oversight Board of the Ada Lovelace Institute. Professor Vallor received the 2015 World Technology Award in Ethics from the World Technology Network and the 2022 Covey Award from the International Association of Computing and Philosophy.
She is a former Visiting Researcher and AI Ethicist at Google. In addition to her many articles and published educational modules on the ethics of data, robotics, and artificial intelligence, she is the author of the book Technology and the Virtues: A Philosophical Guide to a Future Worth Wanting (Oxford University Press, 2016) and The AI Mirror: Reclaiming Our Humanity in an Age of Machine Thinking (Oxford University Press, 2024).
Links
Shannon's website: https://www.shannonvallor.net/
The AI Mirror: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-ai-mirror-9780197759066?A Noema essay by Shannon on the dangers of AI: https://www.noemamag.com/the-danger-of-superhuman-ai-is-not-what-you-think/
A New Yorker feature on the book https://www.newyorker.com/culture/open-questions/in-the-age-of-ai-what-makes-people-unique
The AI Mirror as one of the FT’s technology books of the summer https://www.ft.com/content/77914d8e-9959-4f97-98b0-aba5dffd581c
The FT review of The AI Mirror: https://www.ft.com/content/67d38081-82d3-4979-806a-eba0099f8011
The Edinburgh Futures Institute: https://efi.ed.ac.uk/
The clip from the movie "Real Genius' which she refers to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB1X4o-MV6o
AI Generated Timestamped Summary of Key Points:
00:02:30: Introduction to Professor Shannon Vallor and her work.
00:06:15: Discussion on AI as a mirror of societal values.
00:10:45: The ethical implications of AI decision-making. 00:18:20: How AI reflects human biases and the importance of transparency.
00:25:50: The role of ethics in AI development and deployment.
00:33:10: Challenges of integrating AI into human-centred contexts.
00:41:30: The potential for AI to shape societal norms and behaviours.
00:50:15: Professor Vallor’s insights on the future of AI and ethics.
00:58:00: Closing thoughts and reflections on AI’s impact on humanity. -
Is there such a thing as an original idea? What if everything were actually a remix?
Episode Summary
In this episode, I'm exploring the fascinating concept of creativity with filmmaker, educator, and speaker Kirby Ferguson.
Kirby is best known for his groundbreaking video series “Everything Is A Remix,” which delves into the idea that creativity is all about copying, transforming, and combining existing ideas to form something new. During our conversation, Kirby shares his insights into how creativity works and why understanding the remixing process can make us better creators and more appreciative consumers of culture.
Kirby discusses various examples from his series, highlighting how iconic works in film, music, and technology are often built on the foundations laid by others. He also brings a fresh perspective on the intersection of creativity and technology, focusing on the role of artificial intelligence. The discussion touches on how AI is changing creative work, the ethical implications of machine-generated art, and Kirby’s thoughts on the future of AI in creative industries.
You'll hear a nuanced understanding of creativity’s hidden connections and how embracing the remixing process can relieve the pressure to be original. Whether you’re an artist, a technologist, or simply someone interested in the evolution of ideas, this episode offers a thought-provoking journey through the world of creativity.
Guest Biography
Kirby Ferguson describes himself as a filmmaker, educator, and speaker, best known for his viral video series “Everything Is A Remix,” which originally ran from 2010 to 2012. The series explores the idea that creativity is a process of copying, transforming, and combining existing ideas.
Following the success of the original series, Kirby released an updated version in 2022-2023.
He has spoken at TED, Google, Netflix, YouTube, and Hulu, among other prestigious venues. Kirby’s work continues to focus on creativity, media, and the rapidly evolving role of artificial intelligence in these fields.
Timestamped Summary of Key Points
[00:00:00] Introduction to the episode and guest, Kirby Ferguson.
[00:01:00] Kirby’s background and the impact of “Everything Is A Remix.”
[00:02:00] The nature of creativity and how everything is a remix.
[00:03:00] Kirby’s updated series and ongoing projects.
[00:04:00] The genesis of “Everything Is A Remix” and the concept of remixing in creativity. •
[00:05:00] Examples of remixing in film, music, and technology.
[00:08:00] The pressure to be original and the value of remixing.
[00:09:00] The role of eclecticism and broad experiences in creativity.
[00:12:00] The connection between creativity and analogy.
[00:16:00] The challenge of being a generalist and finding connections across domains.
[00:19:00] The balance between novelty and familiarity in creative work.
[00:23:00] AI’s role in creativity and the controversy surrounding it.
[00:30:00] The ethical implications of AI-generated art.
[00:34:00] Kirby’s views on the future of AI in creative industries.
[00:45:00] The practical uses of AI in creative work.
[00:54:00] The importance of understanding AI’s limitations.
[01:01:00] How Kirby’s insights apply to compliance and human risk.
Links Mentioned
Everything Is A Remix website including Kirby's courses - www.everythingisaremix.info.
Kirby on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirbyferguson/
Kirby's TED Talk 'Embrace The Remix' - https://www.ted.com/talks/kirby_ferguson_embrace_the_remix?subtitle=en
Queen & David Bowie 'Under Pressure' - https://open.spotify.com/track/6suU8oBlW4O2pg88tOXgHo?si=3249601d4212498b
Vanilla Ice 'Ice ice Baby' that uses a sample of 'Under Pressure' - https://open.spotify.com/track/3XVozq1aeqsJwpXrEZrDJ9?si=0c3305b283b84c13
Related Episodes of the Human Risk Podcast
1. Ian Leslie on Conflict - https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/ian-leslie-on-conflict-/
2. Interview with ChatGPT - https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/chat-gpt-3-on-ai-human-risk/ -
What would motivate someone to cycle 4,000 miles across America, and what stories might they uncover along the way?
Episode Summary
On this episode, I speak with travel writer Simon Parker, who recently cycled 4,000 miles across America.
Simon's journey, from Seattle to Key West, was a mission — ahead of the US election in November — to understand the current social and cultural landscape of the United States by speaking with everyday people.
Throughout the episode, listeners will hear about the challenges Simon faced, the incredible stories he gathered, and the unique perspectives he gained on issues like gun control, religion, freedom of speech, and food deserts.
Simon shares how his passion for travel and long-distance cycling has shaped his career as a writer and journalist. He discusses how the pandemic and becoming a father have influenced his work and personal life. The conversation delves into the logistics of such a massive undertaking, including the physical and mental demands, and how cycling serves as both a method of travel and a means to connect with strangers.
You’ll hear compelling anecdotes from Simon's trip, illustrating the kindness of strangers and the diverse experiences of Americans. This episode provides a deep dive into the lesser-heard voices and the real-life impact of political and social issues in the US, making it a thought-provoking listen for anyone interested in travel, journalism, or American culture.
Guest Biography
Simon Parker is a British travel writer, journalist, and filmmaker based on the edge of the Cotswolds. He has spent the past 20 years traveling the world, working for notable publications and broadcasters such as The Telegraph, The Times and the BBC. Simon has visited over 150 countries, creating documentaries and writing extensively about his experiences.
Describing himself as someone who has always been passionate about travel, Simon's career began with a one-way ticket to New Zealand at the age of 19, leading to years of hitchhiking around Australia and New Zealand.
His adventures have taken him from the remote islands of the Pacific to the bustling cities of Europe. Simon is known for his long-distance cycling expeditions, which have become a central theme in his writing and journalism.
His new book, "A Ride Across America," documents his 4,000-mile journey across the United States, exploring the country's small towns and big issues in the lead-up to the presidential election.
Links
Simon’s website: https://www.simonwparker.co.uk
His books ‘Riding Out’ and ‘A Ride Across America’: https://www.simonwparker.co.uk/books/
Simon’s UK theatre tour dates; https://www.simonwparker.co.uk/speaking/
Timestamped Summary
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:01:00 - Overview of Simon's cycling adventure across America.
00:02:00 - Simon's background and career as a travel writer.
00:04:00 - The motivation behind Simon's passion for travel.
00:07:00 - Impact of the pandemic on Simon's life and work.
00:09:00 - The logistics and challenges of long-distance cycling.
00:12:00 - Cultural and social dynamics encountered during the trip.
00:14:00 - Simon's reflections on the kindness of strangers.
00:17:00 - Balancing family life with a career in travel writing.
00:20:00 - Overview of Simon's new book and its themes.
00:23:00 - Discussions on gun control, religion, and freedom of speech.
00:27:00 - The concept of food deserts in America.
00:30:00 - Starting conversations with strangers during the journey.
00:33:00 - Unexpected themes and stories from the trip.
00:36:00 - Reflections on slow travel and its benefits.
00:39:00 - Simon's thoughts on the future of travel writing.
00:42:00 - Writing process and challenges of creating the book.
00:45:00 - Insights gained from the journey and changing perspectives.
00:49:00 - Simon's views on gun ownership and personal safety.
00:51:00 - Conversations about religion and personal beliefs.
00:54:00 - Future plans and upcoming projects.
00:56:00 - Conclusion and final thoughts from Simon -
How do you get 𝟲𝟮,𝟬𝟬𝟬 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 to keep a 𝘀𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝘁? By not calling it a secret.
With the opening ceremony of the Paris 2024 Olympics later today, on this episode, I'm looking back 12 years to the London 2012 Olympics.
In this episode, we dive into the behind-the-scenes secrets of the London 2012 Olympic Opening and Closing Ceremonies with Victoria Sena, a participant and former colleague of mine from the UK Financial Services Authority. We discuss the meticulous planning, the psychology behind the “Save the Surprise” campaign, and the incredible volunteer effort led by Danny Boyle.
Back then, the opening ceremony director 𝗗𝗮𝗻𝗻𝘆 𝗕𝗼𝘆𝗹𝗲 faced a dilemma.
He needed to hold a dress rehearsal to ensure nothing went wrong on the night. But to make it as realistic as possible, he’d need a stadium full of test viewers.
Boyle wanted the details of the opening ceremony to be a surprise. Having 62,000 people who’d seen it ahead of time posed a potential risk.
So he did something clever.
Since some people aren’t good at keeping secrets, Boyle spoke directly to his test audience and asked them to help '𝘴𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦’.
Knowing they’d likely want to share their experience on social media, he suggested they use the hashtag hashtag#savethesurprise. While he encouraged them to share as much as they liked about their experience, he asked them not to divulge specific details of the show.
It worked exactly as he’d hoped.
I wrote about this recently on LinkedIn, and a former colleague Victoria Sena, got in touch to say that she was part of the ceremony and had some insights to share. So, I invited her to the show to get an insider's view of what happened.
Guest Bio
Victoria Sena started her career at the UK Financial Services Authority, worked at the Bank of England, and has since moved into the private sector as a COO. She played a significant role in the London 2012 Olympic ceremonies and brings a unique perspective on the intersection of large-scale event planning and compliance.
AI-generated Timestamped Summary:
• [00:00:00] - Introduction and context of the episode.
• [00:01:00] - The “Save the Surprise” story from “Humanising Rules.”
• [00:03:00] - Victoria’s background and career journey.
• [00:05:00] - Decision-making around volunteering for the Olympics.
• [00:09:00] - The audition process and commitment required.
• [00:14:00] - The role of psychology and selling the dream.
• [00:20:00] - The meticulous planning and the role of professionals.
• [00:27:00] - Problem-solving during rehearsals.
• [00:32:00] - The “Save the Surprise” campaign’s impact on secrecy.
• [00:39:00] - Final thoughts on the success of the London 2012 ceremonies.
Links
Find Victoria on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vlnsena/
Six Degrees Wealth Management: https://thisis6.com/
The London 2012 Olympic Ceremony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4As0e4de-rI
The LinkedIn post that prompted Victoria to get in touch with me: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/humanrisk_savethesurprise-ethics-compliance-activity-7195309250129096704-dwyM?
To read the first few chapters of my book 'Humanizing Rules' for free: www.humanizingrules.com -
Why do we travel? Obviously, sometimes we do it to go to work or visit family. But lots of us also do it for fun, becuase we can. And we naturally presume that’ it’s an unalloyed good. But is it?
My guest, whose new book ‘Airplane Mode’ explores some of the complexities and contradictions of travel and tourism, is Shahnaz Habib.
She’s a writer and translator, but intriguingly, isn’t a travel writer or affiliated with the travel industry, which means she can approach the subject with a unique perspective.
IIn the book and in our discussion, you'll hear all about passport privilege, how those of us with first-world passports can travel relatively freely while others with less powerful ones struggle.
Discover how the creation of guidebooks, their online successors, and social media have influenced our travel choices in ways that aren't necessarily always good.
We also explore the politics of mobility, whether travel is always necessary or indeed a good thing, its environmental impact, the role of the tourism industry in shaping our travel desires, and the often-overlooked mundane aspects of travel that contribute to our overall experience.
This isn’t an episode about why you shouldn’t travel — Shahnaz was on vacation while we recorded it — rather, it’s about questioning why and how we do it.
AI generatedTimestamped Summary
[00:00] Introduction and welcome
[00:45] Shahnaz introduces herself and her background
[02:00] The inspiration behind “Airplane Mode”
[06:00] Discussing ‘passport privilege’ and its implications
[14:00] The environmental impact of travel
[19:00] Questioning the necessity of travel and ‘wanderlust’
[25:00] The history and influence of guidebooks on travel
[32:00] Embracing the mundane aspects of travel
[38:00] Shahnaz’s personal travel principles
[46:00] Reflecting on travel inequities and geopolitical impacts
[56:00] Closing thoughts and future work
Links
Airplane Mode - https://books.catapult.co/books/airplane-mode/
Shahnaz’s website - https://www.shahnazhabib.com/ -
What can we learn from magic? On this episode, I’m joined by two magicians, Fergus Flanagan and Neb Maciver, founders of Talk Magic and both accomplished magicians in their own right, who join me to share their unique journeys, from Fergus's early days working on Children's BBC to Neb’s transition from band life to full-time magician.
Through their Talk Magic partnership, they aim to inspire conversations around storytelling, creativity, and mental health. You’ll hear them open up about their personal struggles and how those experiences have shaped their professional relationship and the creation of Talk Magic.
We also discuss the multifaceted journey of becoming a successful magician, why mastering responsibilities like website building, PR, and social media is as important as the performance.
Neb and Fergus share insights on how magicians market themselves to become essential at events and create emotional connections with potential clients. Learn about the significance of collaboration, spontaneity, and maintaining engaging performances.
Hear how the bond between Fergus and Neb forms the foundation of their unique workshops, blending magic with valuable life lessons for personal and professional growth.
Finally, we explore the versatility and impact of incorporating magic into corporate events and workshops. Discover how Fergus and Neb ensure each magic trick is relevant and actionable for their audience, making their sessions engaging and memorable.
We also touch upon the ethics and intrigue of magic, balancing the maintenance of illusions with audience curiosity. With reflections on the privilege and absurdity of being magicians, our conversation reveals how magic serves as a universal equaliser, creating a level playing field for all participants.
Key Discussion Points (AI generated)
1. Introduction to Fergus and Neb:
[00:01:00] Their individual journeys into magic. [00:04:30] Fergus's career beginning with Children's BBC and Neb’s transition from music to magic[00:08:15] The formation of their collaborative venture, Talk Magic. 2. The Art of Magic Beyond Illusions:
[00:12:00] The importance of storytelling, creativity, and mental health awareness in their performances.[00:15:45] The behind-the-scenes work that goes into becoming a successful magician, including PR, social media, and creating emotional connections with clients.
3. Creating Impactful Performances and Workshops:
[00:20:30] How Talk Magic combines magic with life lessons to foster personal and professional growth.[00:24:10] The significance of keeping performances fresh and spontaneous.
4. Magic in Corporate Workshops and Events:
[00:28:45] The balance between maintaining the mystique of magic and engaging the audience. [00:32:20] The role of magic as a universal equaliser in corporate settings.
5. The Business and Ethics of Magic:
[00:37:00] The multifaceted responsibilities of magicians, from website building to accountancy.[00:41:25] Ethical considerations in magic, such as balancing the audience's curiosity with the need to maintain the illusion.
6. Magic as a Tool for Learning and Connection:
[00:46:10] Magic's effectiveness in stealth learning and creating emotional connections.[00:50:00] The profound impact of combining magic with valuable life lessons.
7. Personal Struggles and Professional Synergy:
[00:54:30] How Fergus and Neb’s shared struggles have shaped their professional relationship.[00:58:20] Their commitment to supporting each other through difficult times.
8. Building and Naming the Brand:
[01:02:45] The journey of naming their brand "Talk Magic" and its significance. [01:06:15] The impact of their tagline "magicians who love to share secrets."
9. Engaging Corporate Clients:
[01:10:40] The challenges and successes of making magic relevant and actionable for corporate audiences.[01:15:00] The importance of clear communication and demonstrating practical benefits.
10. Continuous Improvement and Authenticity:
[01:19:30] Their obsessive approach to refining their workshops and performances. -[01:23:45] The value of maintaining high standards in both magic and the educational content they provide.
11. Magic's Universal Appeal:
[01:28:10] How magic can connect individuals from diverse backgrounds and experiences.[01:32:00] The influence of a magician's mindset on everyday problem-solving and awareness.
Links
Talk Magic - https://www.wearetalkmagic.com/
Talk Magic on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wearetalkmagic
Talk Magic on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/talkmagic/
Neb’s website - https://nebmagic.com/ Fergus’ website - https://fergusflanagan.com/
The tweet by Derren Brown that first made Neb aware of Fergus - https://x.com/DerrenBrown/status/253536114269372416 -
How can we solve 'wicked problems' within complex organisations? A wicked problem is a social or cultural problem that's difficult or impossible to solve because of its complex and interconnected nature. Wicked problems lack clarity in both their aims and solutions and are subject to real-world constraints which hinder risk-free attempts to find a solution.
If that sounds like a big challenge, it is. But it's precisely the kind of thing my guests on this episode, Koen Smets & Dr Bart Derre relish. By using innovative methods, Koen and Bart try to bring behavioural change to the organisations they work with.
On the episode, delve into their unique approach that combines design science research, self-regulated learning, and data-driven methodologies to tackle complex challenges.
Bart and Koen share their experiences and insights on the importance of context, the role of leadership in training, and the dynamics of compliance versus entrepreneurial behaviour. You'll hear about self-regulated learning and the experimental nature of their work.
Koen Smets is a behavioural economist and consultant who teaches at St. Louis University. He's best known for his online moniker Koenfucius, where he blogs about all things behavioural.
Dr Bart Derre is is the Director of the Center for Entrepreneurship at the University of Applied Science in Ghent. Together, they have co-authored a book on entrepreneurial behaviour and founded the consultancy firm, The Bee.
Links:
The Bee Consultancy - https://www.dercon.be/team
Koen on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/koensmets/
Koen's blog - https://koenfucius.wordpress.com/
Koen on Twitter - https://twitter.com/koenfucius
Bart on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartderre/
Timestamped Summary (AI generated)
[00:01:00] Introducing the guests: Koen Smets and Dr. Bart Dero.[00:02:00] Background on Koen and Bart's expertise in behavioural science and their unique insights.[00:04:00] Discussion on their entrepreneurial organization and approach to behavioural change.[00:06:00] Explanation of self-regulated learning and its significance.[00:08:00] Tackling compliance challenges using behavioural science.[00:10:00] Real-world applications and case studies of their methodologies.[00:12:00] The role of leadership in implementing and supporting behavioural change.[00:14:00] Balancing organizational goals with regulatory requirements.[00:16:00] Examples of key behavioural indicators (KBIs) versus key performance indicators (KPIs).[00:20:00] Insights into creating a safe environment for self-regulated learning.[00:22:00] Discussion on the importance of feedback loops and continuous improvement.[00:24:00] The need for trust and psychological safety within organizations.[00:28:00] Addressing challenges in regulated industries and the importance of flexible compliance.[00:32:00] The significance of qualitative data in understanding and improving behaviours.[00:36:00] The impact of organizational structures on behaviour and performance.[00:40:00] Encouraging innovation and creativity within structured environments. -
Why do some great ideas succeed while others fail despite having everything else in place?
On this episode, we welcome back Paul Orlando, an expert on unintended consequences and systems thinking.
Paul introduces his new book, "Why Now: How Good Timing Makes Great Products," and discusses the pivotal role timing plays in the success of startups and innovation.
Through historical examples and modern-day insights, Paul explains how to identify the right moment for launching new ventures and the frameworks he developed for timing analysis.
Bio
Paul is a seasoned entrepreneur, advisor, and author, known for his expertise in unintended consequences and systems thinking. 'Why Now' explores the crucial aspect of timing in innovation.
Summary of Key Points:
00:00: Introduction and welcome back to Paul Orlando.01:00: Paul's shift from unintended consequences to the topic of timing.02:00: The significance of timing in startup success.05:00: Historical examples of timing, including AT&T and mobile telephony.10:00: Frameworks and methodologies for analyzing timing.14:00: Case study of YouTube and earlier attempts at video streaming.20:00: The role of social and behavioral changes in timing.30:00: How businesses can apply timing analysis in decision-making.35:00: Personal reflections on the impact of timing on life and work.
Links
Paul's book: 'Why Now: How Good Timing Makes Great Products' - https://www.amazon.com/Why-Now-Timing-Makes-Products/dp/B0CYXSNMT3
Paul's website: https://startupsunplugged.com/
Paul's previous appearance on the show on Unintended Consequences: https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/paul-orlando-on-unintended-consequences/ -
What can canaries in coalmines teach us about diversity and inclusion? In this episode, I’m speaking to an academic who has some fascinating ideas and insights into how we can create more inclusive work environments and cultures — in other words, how to get the best out of all employees.
Guest Bio
My guest, Dr. Ludmila Praslova, is a Professor and the Founding Director of Graduate Programs in Organizational Psychology at Vanguard University in Costa Mesa, California. She is an industrial organizational psychologist with a background in global diversity, intercultural relations, and, more recently, neurodiversity in the workplace.
She’s also the author of a new book called 'The Canary Code: A Guide to Neurodiversity, Dignity, and Intersectional Belonging at Work’ which takes a concept you’ve heard of — the canary in the coal mine — and applies it to the world of inclusion.
Her simple yet fascinating idea is that if we can focus on meeting the needs of those who are most sensitive to negative workplace dynamics and then create an environment that allows them to flourish, we can create an environment where everyone can flourish.
Episode Description:
In our discussion, we explore the importance of removing barriers in the workplace, the pitfalls of traditional hiring practices, and how the Canary Code works in practice. You'll hear
insights on creating inclusive environments, addressing workplace biases, and why something I've often done, viewing neurodivergent traits as 'superpowers', is actually unhelpful.
AI-generated timestamp summary
[00:00:00] - Introduction
Christian Hunt introduces Dr. Ludmila Praslova, discussing her book "The Canary Code" and its focus on inclusive work environments.[00:01:00] - Ludmila's Background
Ludmila, an industrial-organizational psychologist, specializes in global diversity, intercultural relations, and neurodiversity.[00:03:00] - Interest in Diversity
Ludmila's journey into diversity began with global diversity and now focuses on intersectional inclusivity and neurodiversity.[00:07:00] - The Canary Code Concept
The concept suggests that addressing the needs of the most vulnerable employees can improve conditions for all.[00:11:00] - Flexibility in the Workplace
Emphasizes creating flexible work environments to reduce workplace toxicity and improve productivity.[00:18:00] - Neurodiversity Explained
Neurodiversity includes ADHD, dyslexia, autism, and other neurological differences that impact workplace experiences.[00:22:00] - Managerial Concerns
Managers don't need to specialize in every condition but should create generally inclusive and flexible environments.[00:25:00] - Job Matching and Crafting
Focus on matching jobs to individual strengths and job crafting to optimize roles.[00:28:00] - The Limits of Flexibility
Some roles require specific skills and cannot be flexible, but many roles can adapt to a diverse workforce.[00:31:00] - Validity in Hiring Practices
Emphasizes the need for valid, job-relevant assessments in hiring to ensure fairness and effectiveness.[00:39:00] - Resistance to Change
Some organizations resist flexible work practices, but modern, flexible practices can help attract and retain talent.[00:46:00] - Book Structure
"The Canary Code" is structured to be accessible to CEOs, diversity professionals, and neurodivergent individuals, with stories, research, and practical advice.[00:58:00] - The Superpower Myth
While neurodivergent individuals may see their traits as superpowers, using this as a hiring argument is problematic.[01:02:00] - Conclusion
Advocates for creating environments where everyone can thrive without needing extraordinary measures. Encourages more inclusive and flexible workplace practices.Links
Ludmila's Faculty Page - https://www.vanguard.edu/about/history
The Canary Code - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/742858/the-canary-code-by-ludmila-n-praslova-phd/
Ludmila on Social Media
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ludmila-praslova/
Twitter/X - https://x.com/ludmilapraslova
A piece explaining the point we discussed on the show about why neurodiversity isn't a 'superpower' - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/positively-different/202405/healing-the-invalidation-the-complex-truth-of-autism -
How is technology impacting money laundering? On this episode, I'm welcoming investigative journalist Geoff White back onto the show.
In 2022, Geoff joined me to talk about his book and podcast The Lazarus Heist, the story of how North Korean hackers launched an attack on Sony Pictures in 2014.
This time, he's back to talk about his brand new book 'Rinsed' which looks at money laundering in a digital world.
In it, Geoff explores how thieves who steal digital money that’s highly traceable, launder it so that they can make use of it?
In a wide-ranging disucssion, we also talk about Geoff’s work as an investigative reporter — how does he get his information, what are the risks in doing what he does and you’ll hear the astonishing reasons why people you might not expect would want to talk to him, actually do.
Links
Hear Geoff's previous appearance on the show talking aboiut The Lazarus Heist:
https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/geoff-white-on-the-lazarus-heist/
His BBC World podcast of the same name - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xtvg9/episodes/downloads
Learn more about his new book 'Rinsed' - https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/455031/rinsed-by-white-geoff/9780241624838
Geoff's website - https://geoffwhite.tech/
Timestamped Notes (generateed by AI)
[00:00:00] - Introduction
Christian welcomes Geoff White back to the podcast.Geoff's new book "Rinsed" and updates since his last appearance.[00:01:00] - North Korea's Cyber Activities
Discussion on North Korea's cyber operations and the Axie Infinity hack.The scale and speed of the $625 million cryptocurrency theft.[00:02:00] - Money Laundering Techniques
The importance of money laundering in cybercrime.How hackers collaborate with financial experts to launder money.[00:03:00] - Evolution of Money Laundering
The shift from traditional cash-based laundering to digital methods.Examples of how different criminal groups use technology to launder money.[00:04:00] - Money Laundering as a Service
The concept of "Money Laundering as a Service."Comparison with "Hacking as a Service."[00:05:00] - Classic Money Laundering Stages
Explanation of the three stages: placement, layering, and integration.Historical context with examples from the 1980s.[00:09:00] - Digital Era of Money Laundering
Challenges of tracing digital money.The global nature of digital money laundering and its implications.[00:10:00] - International and Technological Aspects
How criminals use technology to launder money across borders.The role of cryptocurrency in modern money laundering.[00:13:00] - Role of Financial Institutions
The involvement of traditional financial institutions in money laundering.How compliance teams can combat these activities.[00:14:00] - Investigating Money Laundering
Geoff's research methods and challenges in uncovering these stories.The importance of firsthand accounts and digital breadcrumbs.[00:17:00] - Notable Cases
Key cases from Geoff's book, including the Axie Infinity hack and others.The significance of technology in these crimes.[00:20:00] - Interaction with Law Enforcement
Experiences with law enforcement agencies during investigations.The case of the Instagram influencer Hushpuppi.[00:23:00] - Personal Safety and Cyber Risk
Geoff's approach to managing personal cyber risk.The importance of separating public and private online personas.[00:26:00] - The WannaCry Ransomware Attack
Challenges in tracing ransomware payments.A specific investigation into the WannaCry attack.[00:28:00] - Future of Cyber Risk
Geoff's views on the future of cyber risk and AI.The potential for AI to assist both criminals and investigators.[00:34:00] - Regulation and Technology
The need for proactive regulation in tech and finance.Challenges faced by regulators in keeping up with rapid technological advancements.[00:40:00] - Title and Cover of the Book
The process behind choosing the book's title, "Rinsed."Importance of a compelling cover and subtitle.[00:42:00] - Continuous Learning in Cybercrime
The evolving nature of cybercrime stories.The impact of new developments on the book's content.[00:46:00] - Tech Enablers and Libertarian Views
Common traits among tech enablers in money laundering.The vision of a new world driven by innovative financial technologies.[00:51:00] - Advice for Regulators
Geoff's perspective on how regulators can keep pace with technological change.The balance between enabling innovation and preventing crime.[00:55:00] - Conclusion
Geoff's final thoughts and a reminder about his book "Rinsed."Encouragement to support local bookstores through Bookshop.org. -
How can organisations get the best out of the humans they employ and empower them to help deliver desired outcomes? The answer is by focusing on the decisions taken that are critical in determining whether or not the right outcome is achieved.
On this episode, I speak to Sarah Abramson, Head of Marketing at Acteon, a communication and learning agency in Cambridge, UK.
I came across Acteon last year after they approached me to be the keynote speaker at their annual event called, appropriately enough, Speak To The Human.
I had such a brilliant time and met so many amazing people — some of whom have been guests on the show, links below — that not only did I do what keynote speakers hardly ever do and stick around for the rest of the day after I’d done my presentation, but I’m also going back to this year’s event as an attendee.
It’s taking place this week, and since Speak To The Human is a very small invite-only event, you can’t buy tickets, and it isn’t recorded or streamed, I thought I’d ask Sarah, as event organizer, to join me on a special episode of this show to share some of the magic that grabbed my attention.
In our discussion, we talk about the event, how Sarah goes about curating it and some of the unusual elements she incorporates to make it less a conference and more of a gathering of itnersting people. What she has to say is a fascinating blueprint for thinking about live events in a post-pandemic world.
Before we get to that, Sarah talks about Acteon's work — you’ll hear some fascinating case studies of human risk-related problems being solved creatively. She tells me about the importance of understanding human behaviour — not the theory of what people should do, but the realities of what they actually do — how storytelling can help effective communication and how to create belonging and connection within organisations.
And we hear about Sarah’s passion for marathon running and coaching, exploring the parallels between athletic training that seeks to get teh best out of individual runners and getting the best of of employees at work
Key Topics:
Introduction to Sarah Abramson and Acteon [00:00:00]Sarah’s role at Acteon and her background in marketing communications.Overview of Acteon’s work in communication and learning.
Translating Strategy into Actions [00:02:00]The challenge of making boardroom strategies actionable for employees.Examples of how Acteon supports clients in implementing strategies.
Moments that Matter [00:04:00]Identifying critical actions that significantly impact strategic success.Case study on health and safety compliance in care homes.
Building a Positive Remote Work Culture [00:05:00]Strategies for maintaining company culture in a hybrid work environment.The importance of inclusive and high-quality hybrid meetings.
Behavioural Science Framework: COM-B [00:07:00]Explanation of the COM-B model: Capability, Motivation, and Opportunity.How Acteon uses this model to influence employee behaviour.
Storytelling in Communication [00:26:00]The power of storytelling to engage and influence employees.Examples of effective storytelling in corporate settings.
Sarah’s Experience in Marathon Running and Coaching [00:45:00]Insights from Sarah’s dual role as a marathon runner and coach.Parallels between athletic training and corporate behaviour.
Parental Insights into Human Behaviour [00:34:00]How parenting skills translate into professional skills.The value of understanding human behaviour through parenting experiences.
Speak to the Human Event [01:00:00]Overview of Acteon’s annual event focusing on human connection.Themes and unique elements of the event include music and magic.Links to Relevant Resources:
Acteon Communications
Sarah on LinkedIn
The COM-B Model
Steve Peters’ "The Chimp Paradox"
Daniel Kahneman’s "Thinking, Fast and Slow"
Speak to the Human 2024
The Speak to the Human podcast featuring an episode with a guest you might recognise.Previous episodes of this show featuring people I met at last year's Speak To The Human:
Hannah Williams on The Art of Live Scribing: https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/hannah-williams-on-the-art-of-live-scribing/
Heather Urquhart on Improvisation two-part special: https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/heather-urquhart-on-improvisation-part-one/ -
What might the future of society look like & how can we get there?
On this episode, I’m speaking to a best-selling author who has written an extraordinary book about her vision for the future.
Unusually, the book is a work of fiction for the show, but the issues it addresses are very relevant to Human Risk.
My guest is Manda Scott, who began her career as a veterinary surgeon and is now an award-winning writer and podcaster.
Her new book, Any Human Power, has the subtext Dream deeply. Rise up strong. Change is coming and is centred around a protagonist named Lan, a woman on her deathbed who makes a promise to her grandson, Finn. Realising he is struggling with the idea of living in a world without her, she vows to be there for him even after her death. As she passes away, she steps into a shamanic realm known as the void, where she learns to navigate and influence the timelines of the future.
Lan's journey is marked by her attempts to keep her promise to Finn, acting from beyond the grave to guide and protect him. The narrative explores the complex interplay between life and death, human connection, and the power of shamanic practices. Lan discovers that she can impact the physical world through the digital realm, using online gaming to connect with Finn and help him in his moments of need.
During our discussion; we explore Manda’s career, what drives her writing and the topics she explores in Any Human Power.
Links to relevant topics
Manda’s author’s website: https://mandascott.co.uk/
Her podcast ‘Accidental Gods’: https://accidentalgods.life/
Bayo Akomolafe - The Time's Are Urgent — Let's Slow Down:
https://www.bayoakomolafe.net/post/the-times-are-urgent-lets-slow-down
Francis Weller on the Trauma Culture vs Initiation Culture: https://medium.com/best-of-kosmos-journal/deschooling-dialogues-on-initiation-trauma-and-ritual-with-francis-weller-3f360fe26563
The evolution of Audrey Tang https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/27/taiwan-civic-hackers-polis-consensus-social-media-platform
How Audrey’s Tang crowdsourced government https://www.globalgovernmentforum.com/the-wisdom-of-crowds-an-interview-with-taiwans-unorthodox-digital-minister/
Wealth Supremacy by Marjorie Kelly https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/wealth-supremacy-how-the-extractive-economy-and-the-biased-rules-of-capitalism-drive-today-s-crises-marjorie-kelly/7452410?ean=9781523004775
The ‘Bankless’ podcast with Eliezer Yudkowsky http://podcast.banklesshq.com/159-were-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer-yudkowsky
Riversimple Future Guardian Governance model https://www.riversimple.com/governance/
Timestamp Highlights (AI generated)
[00:00:00] - IntroductionChristian Hunt introduces Manda Scott and her background.[00:01:00] - Manda's JourneyManda talks about her background in Scotland, starting as a veterinary surgeon, and transitioning to a novelist and podcaster.
She highlights her work in intensive care for neonatal horses and her academic journey.[00:02:00] - Transition to Writing and PodcastingManda discusses her decision to leave academia and pursue writing.
She explains the impact of her master's in regenerative economics on her career shift.[00:03:00] - Regenerative Economics and Shamanic DreamingManda explains how her studies and shamanic dreaming influence her work and perspectives.
Introduction to the concept of "Accidental Gods" podcast and its goals.[00:04:00] - The Need for Systemic ChangeDiscussion on the necessity for total systemic change and evolving human consciousness.
Manda emphasizes changing our value set to create a thriving world.[00:06:00] - Shamanic Practice and Creative ProcessManda elaborates on shamanic dreaming and its role in her creative process.
She shares how visions and instructions guide her writing.[00:14:00] - Writing Inspiration and ProcessManda describes the inspiration behind her latest book and her unique writing process.
She explains the metaphor of splitting timelines and the challenges of writing about the future.[00:19:00] - Online Gaming and Human ConnectionDiscussion on the role of online gaming in building human connections.
Manda shares personal experiences and the positive aspects of gaming communities.[00:26:00] - Technology as a Tool for ChangeManda highlights Audrey Tang's work in Taiwan and the potential of technology for positive societal change.
The importance of using technology to build bridges and foster consensus.[00:34:00] - Capitalism and Value SystemsDiscussion on the destructive nature of capitalism and the need for new value systems.
Manda explains the concept of "Wealth Supremacy" and systemic change.[00:41:00] - Writing Through TopiaManda talks about the difficulty of writing a realistic path to a better future.
The importance of creating stories that resonate with people's current experiences and aspirations.[00:49:00] - Human Connection and CreativityManda discusses the power of human connection and creativity in building a sustainable future.
Emphasis on embracing technology while evolving beyond Palaeolithic emotions and medieval institutions.[00:53:00] - Call to ActionManda's call to action for systemic change and building a future for future generations.
Importance of storytelling and creative imagination in driving change.[00:59:00] - Closing ThoughtsChristian and Manda discuss the impact of her book and provide practical information for listeners.
Final remarks on the importance of community, technology, and systemic change. -
Why is misinformation so prevalent, and what can we do about it? On this episode, I’m speaking with Alex Edmans, a London Business School Finance Professor who has written a book called ‘May Contain Lies: How Stories, Statistics, and Studies Exploit Our Biases and What We Can Do About It’.
Alex’s areas of focus are purposeful business, sustainable investing, corporate governance, and behavioural finance. He’s also very prepared to use his platform to challenge people who propagate inaccuracies or misleading information.
In our discussion, we explore why he wrote his book, the impact of cognitive biases on decision-making, and practical solutions to navigate a world rife with misinformation.
You’ll hear about the pitfalls of relying on research produced with an agenda in mind and why we need to be wary when we’re told that a particular academic establishment has published a piece of research.
Alex also explains why the popular belief that if you spend 10,000 hours on a particular activity, you’ll have to be skilled at it might not be all it seems and why popular management mantras like ‘start with why’ aren’t as effective as those who propose them might like us to believe.
He talks about his own experiences and why his judgement has been just as vulnerable to biases as ours. Find out why cognitive diversity matters and why we shouldn’t listen to everyone’s views.
Timestamp Highlights: (Produced by AI)
[00:00:00] IntroductionChristian introduces Professor Alex Edmans and discusses his impact on social media and public discourse.[00:01:00] Motivation for Writing "May Contain Lies"Alex explains his transition from academic research to writing about misinformation and the importance of discerning data accuracy over personal biases.[00:02:00] Cognitive Biases and Their ImpactDiscussion on confirmation bias and black-and-white thinking and how they affect our perception of data and evidence.[00:04:00] Personal Experiences with BiasAlex shares personal anecdotes illustrating how even experts can fall prey to biases and misinformation.[00:08:00] The 10,000 Hours RuleA critical look at Malcolm Gladwell's popular concept and its misinterpretations.[00:13:00] Research and Decision-MakingThe importance of scrutinising academic research and the pitfalls of relying solely on endorsements and institutional affiliations.[00:21:00] Statistical LiteracyAlex emphasises the need for statistical literacy from an early age and practical ways to teach it.[00:23:00] Balancing Data and AnecdotesHow to effectively use stories and data to make informed decisions.[00:25:00] Encouraging Cognitive DiversityThe value of different perspectives in decision-making processes and organisational settings.[00:29:00] Flaws in Consultant ResearchCritique of research produced by consultancies like McKinsey and the difference between advocacy and genuine scientific inquiry.[00:36:00] Limits of Cognitive DiversityDiscussing when it might be necessary to draw the line in accepting diverse viewpoints, especially in the context of misinformation.[00:41:00] Societal Solutions to MisinformationProposals for improving transparency in endorsements and the peer review process to combat misinformation.[00:46:00] Role of GatekeepersThe diminishing role of traditional gatekeepers in the age of social media and the importance of self-regulation and critical thinking.[00:55:00] Ethical Presentation of DataEncouraging ethical behaviour in the presentation of data and the potential for individuals to influence organisational culture positively.[00:59:00] Closing RemarksChristian wraps up the conversation, highlighting the key takeaways from the discussion and thanking Alex for his insights.Key Quotes:"Misinformation has always been around, but the ease with which it spreads today is unprecedented.""The goal is not to enslave the reader to think like a statistician but to allow them to live more freely by being discerning with information."Resources Mentioned:Book: "May Contain Lies: How Stories, Statistics, and Studies Exploit Our Biases and What We Can Do About It" by Alex EdmansWebsite: maycontainlies.comFollow Alex Edmans:Twitter/XLinkedInSubscribe & Follow:To discover episodes of the show you might have missed, visit the show's websiteFollow Christian on Twitter and LinkedIn. -
What is the Rainbow Ceiling, and why does it matter?
On this episode, I’m speaking to the author of a new book that explains the significance and the ways we can help to remove it.
A rainbow ceiling is similar to a glass ceiling, a metaphor for the various structural barriers that hold down women or minority groups as they try to climb the career ladder and prevent them from reaching top jobs—but applied to LGBTQ+ people.
It’s a rainbow partly because it symbolises LGBTQ+ people but also because the concept of the arc of a rainbow suggests that different people are affected in different ways.
If, like me, you’re straight, you might not ever have given much thought to what it’s like to be LGBTQ+ and why those who are can find life more difficult.
My guest, Dr Layla McCay, is the author of a brand new book called ‘Breaking the Rainbow Ceiling: How LGBTQ+ people can thrive and succeed at work’
As you’ll hear, although this is ostensibly a book to help LGBTQ+ people, it’s also incredibly insightful for everyone else.
That is why I wanted to get Layla onto the show. In reading it, I had some revelations: I recognised that I didn’t really understand some of the challenges faced by LGBTQ+ people.
I figured that if that applied to me, it might apply to others as well. But my revelations went further than a lack of understanding.
I also came to realise that I had often inadvertently either helped to foster a work environment that wasn’t as inclusive as it could have been or not done simple things that I could have done to make it.
I think inclusion is important, not just because it’s the right thing to do but also because by excluding people, we’re not getting the best out of everyone or the cognitive diversity we really need.
Topics
On the show, we explore:
What the Rainbow Ceiling is and how it manifests itself;
How everyday business practices, such as business travel, pose unique challenges and discomfort for LGBTQ+ professionals;Why many LGBTQ+ people are forced to go ‘back into the closet’ at work, and what impact that has;The challenges of ‘coming out’ at work;
How policies can unintentionally exclude LGBTQ+ people, and what we can do to make them more inclusive;
The importance of visible symbols of support; the transformative power of LGBTQ+ visibility in leadership; And much, much more.
Resources
Layla’s book “Breaking The Rainbow Ceiling’: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/breaking-the-rainbow-ceiling-9781399410762/
Layla on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/LaylaMcCay
Her NHS profile: https://www.nhsconfed.org/people/dr-layla-mccay
For more on what LGBTQ+ means: https://www.verywellmind.com/what-does-lgbtq-mean-5069804
A crash course on LGBTQ+: https://www.cps.edu/globalassets/cps-pages/services-and-supports/health-and-wellness/healthy-cps/healthy-environment/lgbtq-supportive-environments/key-terms-for-understanding-lgbtq-identities.pdf -
What can we learn from artists about decision-making? More than you might think.
We often see decision-making in binary terms and whether decisions are good or bad. But what if they’re more subjective and akin to the way an artist looks at the world? That’s what my guest explores in her new book.
That guest is Elspeth Kirkman, Chief Programme Officer at the innovation agency Nesta and a Visiting Senior Research Fellow at King's College London's Policy School and Exeter University's Business School. She works at the intersection of design, data, and experimentation to solve societal problems.
Elspeth’s book ‘Decisionscape’ explores how the decisions we make are influenced by a variety of factors, many of which are personal to each of us.
In our discussion, we explore:
Elspeth’s career and work;
What Decisionscapes are and how using an artistic lens can help us to understand how and why we make decisions;
How factors like social capital can lead people to make seemingly counter-intuitive decisions;
Parallels between the creative process in writing and decision-making;
the impact of everyday choices on life's narrative and long-term happiness;
the significance of small, habitual decisions in shaping our lives;
the concept of counterfactual thinking and finding contentment in reality;
the enjoyment of making decisions, even without complete information;
why embracing imperfection in decision-making can help us live more satisfied livesand much, much more.
Links to topics we discuss during the show
The Green Day concert where the audience sings Bohemian Rhapsody - https://youtu.be/cZnBNuqqz5g?si=SSkpKTIZ1OVv4qfn
Oliver Burkeman’s Book ‘Four Thousand Weeks’ - https://www.oliverburkeman.com/books
Pablo Picasso’s Picture of a Bull - https://drawpaintacademy.com/the-bull/
Links to Elspeth and her work
Decisionscape - https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262048941/decisionscape/
Behavioural Insights, the book she co-authored with Michael Hallsworth - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/647522/behavioral-insights-by-michael-hallsworth-and-elspeth-kirkman/
Elspeth’s work at Nesta - https://www.nesta.org.uk/team/elspeth-kirkman/
Her profile on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/elspethkirkman
Twitter/X - https://twitter.com/Karminker
Previous episodes of the show
I have featured topics related to decision-making in many episodes of the show, which are available at www.humanriskpodcast.com.
Two recent episodes of particular relevance are my discussions with:
Dr Melina Moleskis - https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/dr-melina-moleskis-on-decision-making-part-one/
and
Ben Cattaneo - https://www.humanriskpodcast.com/ben-cattaneo-on-decision-making-part-two/ - Visa fler
