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  • Yuval Boger is the chief marketing officer of Wi-Charge, wireless charging products touted as "the future of power."

    In this episode, Blake and Yuval recap some of Homebase's most recent product news and discuss how wireless charging fits into multifamily buildings.

  • Lee Odess runs InsideAccessControl.com, a media platform focused on the physical access control industry, and Group337, a growth studio focused on business creation in the CRETech, PropTech and smart home markets for small to large companies in the security, access control, and IoT industry.

    He has worked as an Entrepreneur and an Integrator (founded E+L+C), for a multinational billion-dollar manufacturer in the lock and access control industry (Allegion), as an Executive of a start-up who pioneered the IoT/smart lock/smart physical access control industry (UniKey), and as an Executive with the first cloud-based physical access control manufacturer (Brivo).

    Labeled as an uber-networker by the Washington Post, Lee Odess has over 18 years starting, building, and leading businesses with an exceptional track record for sales growth and marketing effectiveness.

    Discussion Blake on the Inside Access Control podcast. Lee on the Future of Living podcast. Links

    https://www.insideaccesscontrol.com
    https://www.group337.com
    https://www.insidemfac.com
    https://twitter.com/lodess
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeodess

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  • What's happening with Rent in America right now. It's the middle of a pandemic. Are people able to make rent? Let's level set.

    Abbey Wemimo & Samir Goel are the Co-Founders and Co-CEOs of Esusu, the leading financial technology company helping individuals save money and build credit. Esusu's groundbreaking rent reporting platform captures rental payment data and reports it to credit bureaus to boost credit scores. The company's mission is to provide financial solutions that pave a permanent bridge to financial access and inclusion.

    Conversation

    Introductions What is happening with rent right now? How does this affect landlords? What is Esusu's Rent Relief campaign? How does Esusu help to build a renter's credit? What ways does this help renters and landlords? Why do this? Lightning round.

    Links

    esusurent.com esusurentrelief.com
  • This week Blake joined the Aruba Unplugged podcast to talk Homebase, Smart Living-as-a-Service & bringing the Jetsons to real life.

    Learn more about Aruba and their podcast:
    https://www.arubanetworks.com
    https://blogs.arubanetworks.com/podcasts

    Aruba Unplugged - EP42: Smart Living as a Service

    Smart living is a trend on the rise. Homebase is at the forefront of this movement. Blake Miller, founder and CEO of Homebase, joins us to discuss how smart technology is changing the way property owners manage and people live.

  • John Jacobs is the Chief Information Officer of JE Dunn Construction, leads all Information Technology efforts and oversees integration of national operational processes. He continues to oversee the development of applications focused on operational and field efficiency, including mobile applications, intranet and internet portals, and database reporting tools. One of John’s main tasks is to drive technology efforts in the field to improve efficiency for all building partners.

    Discussion Background of John Jacobs. What does the CIO in a large construction company do? How do you get job sites connected? The real-time job site. Getting back to specialized technology. Barriers to construction technology adoption. What has COVID changed? Lightning round questions. Links

    https://twitter.com/JohnJacobsJED
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjacobsjedunn/
    https://www.jedunn.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/je-dunn-construction/

    Note: JE Dunn is an investor in Homebase.

  • Luke Lucas is Senior Manager of Engineering Business Development for T-Mobile USA. Luke manages the Build Your Own Coverage (BYOC) program, focusing on enterprise and in-building coverage, furthering the role of wireless in buildings as a 5th utility-like service. In his role, Luke is involved with smart building and smart city technologies, 5G wireless and the relationship between enterprises installing infrastructure and the connection to T-Mobile signal source and backhaul. Luke has been with T-Mobile for more than two decades, previously in several regional and market development manager roles.

    Discussion Introduction. What is 5G, and all these other Gs? What is BYOC (Build Your Own Coverage)? How does BYOC get brought into properties? What are the challenges of these deployments? What consideration should buildings be taking now? What are 6G & 7G going to be? Lightning round questions. Links

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-lucas-a8359b6/ https://howmobileworks.com/byoc/

  • As a founder and the CEO of Vari, Jason McCann’s mission is to help companies create environments that elevate people. A lifelong entrepreneur, Jason has more than 20 years of experience building and running successful companies. He learned the importance of putting the customer first early-on while working in his mother’s hair salons as a child. Jason co-founded VariDesk in 2013, and the brand quickly became synonymous with sit-stand desks. Under his leadership, the company grew at an incredible pace and expanded its product and service offerings significantly, calling for it’s new, more inclusive name – Vari. Today, Jason oversees all aspects of Vari from design, to sales, to customer service and distribution. The company has grown into a workspace innovation company that provides everything high-growth businesses need to unlock the potential of their workforce – from a full suite of office furniture to the workspaces themselves, offering space-as-a-service with VariSpace. A multi-tenant campus designed to elevate the way businesses approach office, VariSpace offers first-class amenities, fully outfitted offices, and flexible lease terms to enterprise-level clients. About Vari (formerly VariDesk): A workspace innovation company, Vari helps growing organizations unlock the potential of their space and their people. From a collection of office furniture to workspaces offering space-as-a-service, the company makes it easy for high-growth businesses to scale and flex their office space. Organizations all over the world — including over 98% of the Fortune 500 — use Vari products, which are tested and certified to the highest industry standards. Discussion Rebranding from VariDesk to Vari in early 2020 Vari Headquarters transformation to prepare for the return to the office What can companies do today to start planning for the return to the office? VariSpace offices spaces. The seamless offices of the future. Links Jason's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-mccann-varidesk/ https://www.vari.com/ https://www.varispace.com/ LinkedIn: @vari Twitter: @workwithvari Facebook: @workwithvari Instagram: @workwithvari

  • Calvin Cooper is the co-founder and CEO of Rhove, a fintech company founded to turn every renter into an owner. Prior to founding Rhove, Calvin was a Director and Venture Partner at an early stage venture capital firm located in the Midwest. Calvin is active in community and entrepreneur support organizations. He serves on the Nasdaq Entrepreneurial Center YEx Advisory Board. In 2017, the Columbus City Council and the Create Columbus Commission recognized Calvin with the Visionary Award, and he was also listed in the 40 Under 40 Class of 2017 by Columbus Business First. Calvin earned a Bachelor of Arts degree from Capital University in Financial Economics. Discussion Why it is important for every member in a democracy to have an economic stake in their community? How the pandemic affected our decision to make our long term plan of launching Renterhsip our short term plan to launch it in 3 months? As an ex-VC, how are you viewing the explosion of Proptech and starting a company. For multifamily investors, what is the best thing they can do to help future-proof their properties? For RE developers considering co-living developments, what one thing should they be thinking about that isn’t obvious? What we learned from launching an MVP savings product before launching Rentership. Lightning round. Links https://rhove.com/ https://twitter.com/Rhove_rent https://www.instagram.com/rhove.rent/

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • Robert Gaulden is the Director of Allegion Multifamily Channel Strategy and has been involved in the security industry for more than 15 years, focusing on electronic access control, partnership development and security policy. During his most recent years at Allegion, Robert has worked on integrations, channel development and go-to-market strategies associated with Allegion’s access control platforms. He’s currently responsible for developing strategy, channels and partnerships to drive the customer experience and provide seamless access for the multi-family segment. Robert brings a unique perspective and understanding of the role security partners and platforms play in delivering a holistic experience for both the property manager and the resident. He has been featured in Security Sales & Integrator (SSI), A&S International and Security System News, where he was chosen as a “20 under 40” honoree in 2013.

    Discussion Current state of the access control industry post-COVID. Why are companies using residential locks in multifamily, and what problems is that creating? When do fobs or credential die or do they? Will we get to a point of hardware-as-a-service? How to think about safety and security consideration. The smart access control value prop becoming more mainstream. Allegion's Multifamily strategy. Links

    Allegion Multifamily – https://us.allegion.com/en/home/markets/multifamily.html

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • Emil Shour is the Growth Marketing Manager at Roofstock, the #1 marketplace for buying and selling single-family rental homes. He's also an active real estate investor with rental properties in Jacksonville, Indianapolis, and St. Louis. Follow along on his journey to building $100k/year in cash flow from real estate at emilshour.com. In this conversation, Blake and Emil discuss: Emil’s background, podcast and role with Roofstock. The journey to $100k cash flow and how you’re using Proptech to achieve your goals. The emergence of “Real Estate Twitter” and how people can engage and, ultimately, leverage it. Rapid fire round. Links

    https://emilshour.com
    https://twitter.com/emilshour
    Roofstock – https://www.roofstock.com
    The Remote Real Estate Investor podcast – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-remote-real-estate-investor/id1502473360

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • When it comes to tenant attraction and retention it seems like everyone in the Real Estate industry is trying to one-up each other. An "Amenities Arms Race," some might say. Logan Nagel (@Logan_W_Nagel, TW) has witnessed much of this race first as an analyst and now as Associate Publisher at Propmodo.com. Nagel believes strongly and has witnessed first hand, the value brought to a building when a tenant's experience is carefully curated and optimized.

    In this conversation replay from later in season 2, Blake and Logan discuss:

    Why curating the tenant experience is important and how some buildings are doing so. How the "Amenities Arms Race" is changing the bottom line. The rise of suburban co-working models and the urbanization of the suburbs.

    Logan Nagel is a professional in PropTech and media with a focus on investment, development, technology, and sustainability. He is Propmodo's Associate Publisher and was previously the junior member of Tucson, Arizona's top 100+ unit apartment sales team with Cushman & Wakefield | PICOR.

    Before that, Logan worked with Tandem, a Chicago-based mixed-use apartment developer and also worked with J.P. Morgan as a Multi-Family Investment Analyst focusing on LIHTC investments of up to ~$52 million around the country.

    Read Logan's articles on Propmodo at Propmodo.com. Connect with him on Twitter, @Logan_W_Nagel and on LinkedIn, @LWNagel.

    Specifically, read a few of Logan’s articles discussed in this episode:

    Don’t Let Smartphones Hijack the Tenant Experience Measuring Building Quality Beyond the Financial Model Your Building is Talking, Are You Listening?

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at FutureOfLivingPodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at MediaClub.co.

  • Selecting a corporate site or validating an investment in an opportunity zone can take a very long time, sometimes months. Calandra Cruickshank recognized that by leveraging the power of big data, these processes could be significantly faster and easier. Thus, Statebook International® was founded. Statebook is the first nationwide online marketplace for economic development and corporate site selection headquartered in NY.

    In this replay of a conversation from Season 2 of Future of Living, Blake and Calandra discuss:

    The rise of Opportunity Zones and how Real Estate Investors can leverage big data to streamline decision making. What corporations are most attracted to when selecting a new location and how this might affect real estate. How Real Estate Developers are transforming abandoned malls into community-focused experiences.

    With over a decade in the tech industry, Cruickshank specializes in designing and implementing creative campaigns using sustainable and socially responsible programs and strategic alliances between for-profit and non-profit companies and government agencies.

    Calandra previously co-founded and served as president and on the board of directors for CommonKindness.com, an online coupon hosting platform that benefits nonprofits while saving consumers money and driving traffic and sales to brands and retailers. Calandra also co-founded and served as senior vice president for Good Deed Foundation, a national branding and licensing company that leveraged existing supermarket products to support non-profit organizations benefitting climate change and women and families in poverty.

    Learn more about Statebook International® at Statebook.com. Check out their About Page for direct emails to Calandra and her team. Follow Statebook on LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook. Finally, connect with Calandra on Twitter, @CalandraLila, and on LinkedIn.

    Hear more of The Future of Living Podcast online at FutureOfLivingPodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at MediaClub.co.

  • Scott Harkins is one of those people you just expect to have all the really cool gadgets you could imagine and the capability to make them all work together. This comes in handy in his role as VP & GM of Resideo Connected Home where he oversees the future of Resideo products and their interoperability within the home. Resideo spun out of Honeywell and recently went public (NYSE: REZI).

    In this conversation replay, Blake and Scott discuss:

    What Real Estate Developers can do to ensure new buildings are ready for the future. Monetizing IoT devices and services beyond the initial consumer transaction. The role of the connected car in the connected home.

    One thing that sets Resideo apart from its competitors, like Nest or Ring, is its ability to not only compete on the wall but also in the wall. This is a huge advantage when setting out to connect an entire home through the Internet of Things. It's one thing to control your HVAC remotely, it's another thing when your HVAC communicates with your automatic blinds to work together to conserve energy. This is where Resideo lives and in the middle of it all is Scott Harkins.

    Find Scott on Twitter, @scharks5 and LinkedIn. Also, check out what Resideo is up to on their website, resideo.com.

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at FutureOfLivingPodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at MediaClub.co.

  • Sarah McMillian believes historical buildings hold vast amounts of valuable cultural currency. They tell a story not only of the people that built the building but also of the community in which they lived and what they valued. And so preserving historical buildings, in her view, is valuable to our culture and our community. Additionally, and equally important, preserving buildings is more sustainable than building new and has a positive environmental impact. New construction requires quite a bit of fossil fuel energy and releases a great amount of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

    In this conversation, Sarah and Blake discuss:

    The importance of interoperability not only in historical buildings but also in new buildings. Practical and economic ways Real Estate Professionals can connect their historical buildings and create interoperability. Why Real Estate Developers should preserve old buildings instead of building new.

    As Business Development Lead at Temboo (https://temboo.com), an industrial Internet of Things (IoT) software startup based in New York City, Sarah helps real estate developers and other businesses make their products, processes, and facilities smart. Sarah has helped a diverse group of companies across the globe find customers for their innovative products and services. Her first job out of MIT was Marketing & Sales Lead for an India-based startup where she launched the country's first biodegradable sanitary pad brand. She later joined the eCommerce unicorn, Jet.com, where she grew sales of a multi-million dollar business unit. Sarah has written for TechCrunch and other publications about how to build a more sustainable, equitable future, and lives by the motto "leave a place better than you found it."

    The best place to find Sarah McMillian online is on her LinkedIn page. Learn more about Temboo at https://temboo.com. Follow Temboo on Twitter, @temboo, on Instagram, @temboo_iot, and on Facebook. Temboo's YouTube page holds a wealth of how-to and explainer videos to help you modernize your historical buildings, check them out at https://www.youtube.com/temboo. Finally, follow the Temboo LinkedIn page for additional IoT information and practical how-tos.

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at MediaClub.co.

  • Jeff Wood (@TheOverheadWire, TW) thinks we won't ever have truly autonomous cars and that Apple is stuck in the past (and not for tech-related reasons). His reasoning is sound, unique, and not what you might expect to hear from anyone in Silicon Valley. Jeff owns and operates The Overhead Wire, a San Francisco based consultancy focused on transit and land use strategies primarily in urban areas.

    In this conversation Blake and Jeff discuss:

    The "Location Affordability Index" and the inextricable link between transit and housing. How regulation is forcing affordable housing innovation. Challenges and opportunities facing city executives, planners, and real estate entrepreneurs as urban areas continue to boom.

    Drawing on his background in mapping, Blake and Jeff also discuss why we should be concerned that only a few companies control map data and what that might mean for the future of autonomous mobility.

    This episode is a replay from early in Season 2 and was easily one of the most popular from this season of Future of Living. Jeff's thoughts and opinions are sound and based on data. Additionally, it's clear Wood has given each of the covered topics a great deal of thought.

    In addition to his consulting work, Jeff also curates The Overhead Wire Daily, a newsletter disseminating over 30 pieces of news about cities around the world for advocates, elected leaders, researchers, and other interested parties. Additionally, you can hear Jeff each week on the Talking Headways podcast.

    Find Jeff online at The Overhead Wire, on Twitter, @TheOverheadWire, and the Talking Headways podcast. You can also connect with Jeff on his LinkedIn page.

    Find The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Or on Twitter and Instagram: @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • We like to end each episode with the "Lightning Round", a series of questions meant to elicit answers off the top of the guests head. The funny thing about this segment is that the questions rarely produce an immediate response. Almost without fail, the first question asked is, “Is there an industry or service that you see becoming obsolete in the next 10 years? In other words, ‘Who is the next Blockbuster?’” At first, we wondered if we should change the questions to make for a more rapid-fire segment. However, after the first few episodes of Future of Living, we realized these questions actually sparked a little more conversation and insight into the guest beyond their area of expertise.

    “Who is the next Blockbuster?” quickly started to generate some of our favorite answers and conversations. At the end of season one, we had the idea to create an entire episode featuring answers to just this question.

    In this episode, various guests from the past two years talk about the industries, business, and companies they believe are at risk of obsolescence, or at the very least, massive disruption in the next 10 years. From landline phone providers to the auto industry to one very surprising and extremely well thought out and rational answer from Jeff Wood (@theOverheadWire, TW), this episode is a rapid-fire look back.

    What’s great about this question is that it actually uncovers our guests' thoughts about what the future will be like and less about what will cease to exist. Some of these answers are rooted in the guests' expertise and industry knowledge. Some are simply educated observations, if not also intuitive. We couldn’t think of a better way to close out season 2 of the Future of Living than with this lightning round episode.

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • This past season of Future of Living featured 20 fantastic guests. We covered a lot of ground, too. The future of construction, retail food technology, downtown stadiums, affordable housing, affordable transportation, and so much more. This episode features five standout segments from the past season.

    In this episode:

    Elizabeth Glynn of Travois talks about the economic development work they are doing in American Indian, Alaska Native, and Native Hawaiian communities. Specifically, how their focus is helping mini-cities flourish in these communities and the surprising challenges for technological advancement. Jon Dishotsky of Starcity talks about the rise of co-living as a means of affordable housing in cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York and the surprising makeup of residents in these communities. Sarah McMillian from Temboo talks about how IoT technology and Temboo are helping to preserve buildings and retrofit them so owners can better monitor their services. Gabe Halimi of Flo Technologies talks about how water sensor technology can stop catastrophic home damage before it happens, but also conserve trillions of gallons of water in cities. Calandra Cruikshank from Statebook talks about the rise of Opportunity Zones and what they mean for Real Estate Investors and Developers. Additionally, she explains how Statebooks technology streamlines selecting Opportunity Zones to invest in.

    Listen to each of these full episodes on the Future of Living website. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • In the United States, there are approximately 45 million residential rental units. More than half, about 53%, or 24 million of those rental units are managed by individuals, not institutional property groups. Yet, most of the technology for managing rental properties are built for big, enterprise real estate organizations. Ryan Coon (@ryanmcoon, TW) calls those 24 million property owners "DIY Landlords," and he believes in them. A DIY landlord himself, Ryan is co-founder and CEO of Avail, a rental property management app created to provide DIY landlords the experience they deserve.

    In this conversation, Blake and Ryan discuss:

    Tactics and technology landlords of all sizes can employ for improving the tenant experience, and the likelihood of retaining tenants. How smart technology can not only improve the tenant experience but also improve the landlord experience and bottom line. Maximizing technology ROI with prompt payments and better tenant screening.

    At Avail, Ryan focuses on company strategy, hiring, and developing new partnerships. Prior to co-founding Avail in 2012, Ryan was an Investment Banking Associate at BMO Capital Markets performing M&A and equity capital markets transactions for financial services firms. Ryan left BMO in February 2011 to travel the world and pursue his entrepreneurial dreams. He earned Bachelors of Science degrees in Accounting and Finance from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

    Find Ryan on Twitter, @RyanMCoon, and LinkedIn, @RyanCoon.

    Check out Avail at Avail.co. You can also find them on all the major social networks as @HelloAvail.

    Facebook, @HelloAvail Twitter, @HelloAvail Instagram, @HelloAvail LinkedIn, @HelloAvail

    Listen to the Tech Nest podcast episode featuring Blake Miller. Tech Nest: The Real Estate and Tech Show is hosted by Nate Smoyer, an Avail.co team member.

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • When it comes to tenant attraction and retention it seems like everyone in the Real Estate industry is trying to one-up each other. An "Amenities Arms Race," some might say. Logan Nagel (@Logan_W_Nagel, TW) has witnessed much of this race first as an analyst and now as Associate Publisher at Propmodo.com. Nagel believes strongly and has witnessed first hand, the value brought to a building when a tenant's experience is carefully curated and optimized.

    In this conversation, Blake and Logan discuss:

    Why curating the tenant experience is important and how some buildings are doing so. How the "Amenities Arms Race" is changing the bottom line. The rise of suburban co-working models and the urbanization of the suburbs.

    Logan Nagel is a professional in PropTech and media with a focus on investment, development, technology, and sustainability. He is Propmodo's Associate Publisher and was previously the junior member of Tucson, Arizona's top 100+ unit apartment sales team with Cushman & Wakefield | PICOR.

    Before that, Logan worked with Tandem, a Chicago-based mixed-use apartment developer and also worked with J.P. Morgan as a Multi-Family Investment Analyst focusing on LIHTC investments of up to ~$52 million around the country.

    Read Logan's articles on Propmodo at Propmodo.com. Connect with him on Twitter, @Logan_W_Nagel and on LinkedIn, @LWNagel.

    Specifically, read a few of Logan’s articles discussed in this episode: Don’t Let Smartphones Hijack the Tenant Experience, Measuring Building Quality Beyond the Financial Model, Your Building is Talking, Are You Listening?

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.

  • Downtown stadiums are special. There's something inexplicably enjoyable about leaving work and walking to a ballgame. This experience becomes magical when after the game you can simply walk home. As a baseball reporter and analyst, Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc, TW) has traveled to just about every baseball stadium in the United States. He’s seen more than his fair share of downtown stadiums and hotels and as both a professional and a traveler, he has a unique perspective on what makes these types of properties memorable and enjoyable.

    In this conversation, Blake and Joel discuss:

    How to create a championship culture in communities of all types. What truly makes downtown stadiums successful. What Real Estate Professionals should be looking at when considering investments near stadiums.

    A native of suburban Philadelphia and Chicago, Joel has been a member of the Kansas City Royals television broadcast since 2008, serving as the host of every pregame and postgame show on FOX Sports Kansas City.

    The University of Wisconsin graduate won a 2001 Mid-America Emmy for sports reporting and has covered multiple championship teams in Major League Baseball and the National Football League.

    Joel built a nearly 25-year career developing and maintaining strong relationships with professional athletes, coaches, and team management and he now shares those stories and strategies with companies and associations.

    Learn more about Joel on his website JoelGoldbergMedia.com. Follow him on Twitter, @GoldbergKC, on Instagram, @JoelGoldbergKC, and on LinkedIn, @JoelGoldbergKC.

    Find more of The Future of Living Podcast online at https://futureoflivingpodcast.com. Connect with us on Twitter and Instagram, @FutureLivingPod.

    The Future of Living Podcast is produced by Media Club. Learn more at https://mediaclub.co.