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John Kim, aka The Angry Therapist, joins me to chat about his new book, Breakup on Purpose: A Catalyst for Growth. A bestselling author, well-known for his raw, no-nonsense approach to self-help, John keeps it real by practicing full authenticity and transparency.In this episode, he challenges us to rethink breakups. No one really talks about the different kinds of breakups, but John breaks them down into eight distinct types and explains how understanding which one you're going through can be a total game-changer. We dive into how this framework can help you process your experience, focus your healing, and even turn your breakup into an opportunity for growth.You’ll also hear:Why understanding your specific breakup type can help you prioritize healing (4:55)John goes through all eight breakup types and explains the different responses they may create (6:07)How healing from divorce is different from other breakups (37:15)Learn more about John Kim: John Kim, LMFT is a bestselling author with a new book out called: BREAK UP ON PURPOSE: A Catalyst for Growth. Kim blogs as The Angry Therapist, and practices complete authenticity and transparency with his many clients. He is also the bestselling author of: “It’s Not Me, It’s You;” “Single. On Purpose,” and “I Used to be a Miserable F*ck.”Resources & Links:Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment CollectiveJohn’s websiteJohn on InstagramJohn on FacebookJohn on YouTube===================DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.Episode Link:https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-312-breakup-on-purpose-with-the-angry-therapist-john-kim-lmft/
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Betrayal recovery coach Lora Cheadle is back on the show! She’s flipping the script on burnout and explains why “it’s not just stress—it’s betrayal.” When expectations break, whether in your career, marriage, or personal life, the real damage isn’t just exhaustion—it’s the hit to your sense of self and your self-worth. So, Lora breaks down why burnout happens when broken expectations rupture your view of yourself or the world—and how to shift out of it.
She also walks us through her FUEL UP burnout recovery method, designed to rebuild from the inside out. From finding your why to managing expectations, uncovering root causes, and yes, even using laughter to reset your nervous system, Lora offers a different way forward.
You’ll also hear:
How to recognize when burnout is actually betrayal (3:56)
Why expectation management is the missing piece in burnout recovery (5:28)
Lora shares five tools to help you FUEL UP & Thrive (15:28)
Learn more about Lora Cheadle: Lora Cheadle is a betrayal recovery coach, attorney, and TEDx speaker who helps women heal from betrayal on an energetic, emotional, and ancestral level—while also providing legal guidance to help them navigate the practical complexities of infidelity and relationship transitions. She empowers women to rise from the ashes, reclaim their identity and self-worth, break free from repeating patterns, and step into their power with confidence, clarity, and grace.
After being shattered by her husband's fifteen years of infidelity, Lora knows firsthand what it takes to transform devastation into an invitation for healing, freedom, and joy. Her unique approach blends deep emotional healing with tangible legal and life strategies, guiding women beyond betrayal into lives of unapologetic confidence and purpose.
Licensed to practice law in California and Colorado, Lora is also a trauma-aware coach, clinical hypnotherapist, somatic attachment therapist, and advanced integrated energy practitioner. She is certified in yoga, mindfulness, group fitness, and personal training, bringing a holistic perspective to healing.
She is the author of FLAUNT! Drop Your Cover and Reveal Your Smart, Sexy, & Spiritual Self (an International Book Awards Finalist and Tattered Cover Bestseller) and It’s Not Burnout, It’s Betrayal: 5 Tools to FUEL UP & Thrive. She also hosts the podcast FLAUNT! Create a Life You Love After Infidelity and Betrayal.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Lora’s website
BurnoutOrBetrayal.com
Lora on LinkedIn
Lora on YouTube
Lora on Instagram
Lora on Facebook
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I’m diving into the concept of energetic self-perception with my friend and colleague, Karen McMahon. According to Karen, we are, at our core, walking balls of energy, constantly shifting between two primary states: our everyday selves and our stress-response selves. Karen returns to the podcast to discuss the seven levels of energy, a framework that can help you recognize where you are on the emotional scale and how to move toward awareness and empowerment.
Karen shares how our thoughts, feelings, and actions are deeply connected and how understanding that can help us navigate divorce, co-parenting, and life post-breakup. Many of us stay trapped in old energetic patterns, reacting to our exes the same way we did during the marriage—but that’s a choice. This conversation is all about reframing your perspective to shift your energy and create real, lasting change.
You’ll also hear:
Understanding the seven levels of energy and how they shape your mindset (4:28)
Why shifting out of victim mode is key to reclaiming your power (8:32)
The difference between cooperation and acceptance in healing (14:25)
Moving from external validation to inner trust and self-empowerment (36:13)
Learn more about Karen McMahon: In the realm of divorce and relationship coaching, Karen McMahon emerges as a true luminary, specializing in the complex arena of high conflict divorce. With unwavering determination and a heart full of empathy, Karen's expertise shines brightest when guiding individuals through the tumultuous storms of high conflict situations. Her signature approach addresses the internal intricacies of intense emotions, fixed mindset and unconscious behaviors along with external complexities of legal approaches, financial awareness and co-parenting hurdles, ensuring that her clients emerge both victorious and transformed.
Karen's impact extends far beyond borders, as she is the visionary force behind "Journey Beyond Divorce," an internationally acclaimed platform that offers guidance, support, and empowerment to individuals around the world. This thriving initiative has reached tens of thousands of men and women seeking solace, strength, and a renewed sense of purpose during life's most challenging transition. With a dynamic team of six dedicated coaches, Journey Beyond Divorce provides a comprehensive approach to healing and growth, acknowledging that every journey is unique.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Karen’s website
Energetic Perception Chart
Rapid Relief Coaching Session
Karen on Facebook
Karen on Instagram
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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.
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Alyssa Dineen, founder of Style My Profile, joins me to talk about the ins and outs of online dating after divorce. If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the dating apps, unsure how to craft a compelling profile, or just wondering if you're ready to date, Alyssa’s expertise will help you navigate it all.
Together, we tackle the realities of modern dating, from building a profile that actually sparks conversations to avoiding burnout in the endless swipe cycle. Alyssa also shares her own post-divorce dating journey, including how she found love after leaving an abusive marriage. She also shares the key strategies she uses with her clients to help them date with intention.
You’ll also hear:
The biggest mistakes people make with their dating profiles (5:24)
How dating can help you re-discover who you are after divorce (7:23)
The ‘date uniform’ strategy that makes getting ready effortless (37:46)
The first date, avoiding dating burnout, and enjoying the process (26:37)
Learn more about Alyssa Dineen: With over 25 years of experience as a fashion editor, stylist, and art director, Alyssa established herself as a seasoned leader in the New York fashion world. In the past decade, Alyssa has also emerged as a pioneering figure in the online dating space. Her innovative approach combines her expertise in styling with her insights into dating, guiding clients on everything from personal presentation to effective communication with potential partners.
As an acclaimed dating expert, Alyssa has been featured in The New York Times, Today Show, Goop, and Oprah Daily. She is also the author of The Art of Online Dating published by Harper Collins in 2021, which offers valuable strategies for success in online dating. You can find more information about Alyssa and Style My Profile’s services at stylemyprofilenyc.com.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Style My Profile website
Alyssa is also offering 20% off her Mindful Dating 101 course and DIY Profile Kit to DSG listeners! Use code DSG20 at checkout.
Alyssa on Instagram
Style My Profile on Instagram
Alyssa’s Facebook Group for: Empowered Women Moving Forward in the Modern Dating World
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Jennifer Lee, financial advisor and founder of Modern Wealth, returns to the show to break down the financial realities of grey divorce. Whether you're the stay-at-home parent wondering what you're entitled to or the moneyed spouse navigating how to divide assets fairly, Jennifer's insights will help you make informed decisions with a clear sense of direction.
Together, we unpack the unique financial challenges that come with untangling decades of shared assets—from businesses and retirement accounts to the realities of living on half the resources you once had. Jennifer shares her expert advice on how to avoid costly mistakes and take control of your financial future.
You’ll also hear:
What makes grey divorce financially unique and how to prepare (3:58)
The importance of a qualified domestic relations order (QDRO) and how it works (5:12)
Key mistakes people make when dividing marital assets (7:47)
How to approach long-term financial planning post-divorce (16:51)
Learn more about Jennifer Lee: Originally from Maryland, Jennifer brought her over 27 years (44 years if you count going into the office with her father as a child) of expertise in the financial services industry to Florida. Jennifer has found that a relationship with an advisor is most critical at the intersections in life where emotions collide with financial events. She enjoys facilitating her clients through challenges as they experience life’s upsets such as divorce, the loss of a spouse, or business to retirement transition. Whether you are experiencing divorce, a business client expanding or selling your operation, or a couple wanting to make sure they have provided for their family, Modern-Wealth may be a good fit. Jennifer provides a fresh perspective to the financial planning process by digging deep to understand what drives her clients. At Modern-Wealth, they build long-lasting relationships. As part of their process, they encourage clients to communicate their values to the most important people in their lives by writing a family love letter. This led her to write “Squeeze the Juice: Live With Purpose-Then Leave a Legacy.”
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Jennifer’s website
Consultation with Jennifer
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Samara Bay, author of Permission to Speak, is here to reframe how we think about our voices—and the power they carry. Her work is for anyone who’s ever been told to sound different, speak softer, or conform to fit in. In this conversation, we explore how the way we speak shapes not just how others perceive us but how we see ourselves.
Samara’s insights are grounded in her own journey, from Shakespeare festivals to coaching Hollywood actors to helping leaders and changemakers show up authentically. Her audiobook is as compelling as the conversation you’re about to hear—a true reflection of her mission to help us all own our voices unapologetically.
Samara’s book, Permission to Speak, is available everywhere books are sold. If you love this conversation, grab the audiobook for an even deeper experience.
You’ll also hear:
How societal norms shape the way we speak—and how to challenge them (2:25)
The connection between breath, voice, and emotions (23:47)
Practical exercises for finding and owning your voice (28:37)
Why physical movement and warm-ups matter for confidence (29:14)
Learn more about Samara Bay: Samara Bay coaches rising business leaders, political hopefuls, and public figures who need to speak in a voice they recognize as their own to truly make waves. She runs workshops and speaks at organizations around the world to support a new, diverse sound of power. In Hollywood, she helps movie stars integrate good acting with good accents, and has coached clients including Gal Gadot, Pierce Brosnan, Penélope Cruz, Ricky Martin, Terry Crews, Rachel McAdams, Ruth Negga, and Anjelica Huston. She has a BA from Princeton University and an MFA from Brown University. She lives in Los Angeles with her husband, son, and dog, Moxie.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Samara on Instagram
Samara’s Substack
Permission to Speak
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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM
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What happens when life throws you curveballs like breast cancer, midlife dating, and unexpected sisterhoods? You turn them into stories, humor, and inspiration—and that’s exactly what Julie Edelman has done.
I’m thrilled to welcome author and humorist Julie Edelman for an empowering and laugh-filled conversation about love, resilience, and the unexpected sisterhoods that form through life’s detours. Julie shares the inspiration behind her latest novel, The Accidental Sisterhood, and opens up about her personal journey through breast cancer, dating after 50, and finding joy in life’s chaos.
You’ll also hear:
Why women over 50 are more likely to be single—and why that’s not a bad thing (4:31)
How Julie turned life’s detours—like surviving breast cancer—into creative inspiration (10:35)
The challenges of midlife dating, including spotting "red flags" (14:47)
Why sisterhood is such a powerful force for healing, growth, and joy (16:44)
Learn more about Julie Edelman: Julie Edelman is the bestselling author of the how-to book, The Accidental Housewife: How to Overcome Housekeeping Hysteria One Task at a Time. She is a well-known lifestyle expert and has appeared on The Today Show, The View, Rachael Ray, Fox & Friends, The Doctors, ABC Audio Networks and iHeart Radio. She lives in Florida, close to her son, who is her heart and testament to a blessed life lived fully.
Julie speaks publicly with heart, humor, and in high heels about the value of sisterhood and not letting life’s detours define nor stop us from achieving our dreams. The Accidental Sisterhood is her debut novel, and a testimony to embracing a life detour with hope and determination following her triumph over breast cancer.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Julie’s website
Julie on Instagram
Julie on Facebook
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This episode is all about solo travel and how it can help you reconnect with yourself. Whether you're navigating a major life transition, like divorce, or just craving time to focus on your own needs, solo travel could be the adventure you didn’t know you needed.
I’m talking with Joy Huber, a solo travel pro with an incredible story. After overcoming stage 4 cancer, Joy decided life was too short to wait for "someday." She packed her bags, took the leap, and now helps women discover the magic of exploring the world on their own.
Joy shares her personal journey, plus plenty of real-world tips to help you make your first solo trip safe, stress-free, and genuinely fun.
You’ll also hear:
Why starting small—like a weekend getaway—can build your confidence for bigger adventures (5:10)
Practical safety tips for women, from smart gadgets to group tours that let you ease into solo travel (11:34)
Tools and tricks for trip planning, including how to find hidden gems that match your vibe (23:23)
How traveling alone can help you reconnect with who you are and what you really want (25:29)
Learn more about Joy Huber:
Discover the "JOY" of safe & incredible solo travel with Joy Huber. Joy guides women to their own successful travels going alone yet never feeling lonely. As the founder of "Travel with Joy TV," Joy helps women live a life full of freedom and fulfillment.
Women tend to outlive men when comparing life expectancy. Knowing this, Joy truly believes the ability to solo travel safely and successfully is a life skill women of every age & stage of life must have. Joy has traveled solo safely, capably navigating multiple challenging safety situations for over two decades. As a successful author & professional speaker, Joy traveled solo often delivering seminars and public speaking in person primarily in the United States before speaking virtually became more common. Through her personal solo travel experience, Joy discovered a number of tips, insider secrets, and inexpensive items that aren’t very well known that she uses to feel confident traveling alone.
Joy prioritized traveling solo for fun after receiving a devastating diagnosis of stage 4 cancer in March of 2010. Joy suffered through three years of hard-hitting chemotherapy which caused the complete loss of her shoulder-length hair. Joy realized we’re all a car accident, heart attack or diagnosis away from a completely different life, and she decided she wouldn’t wait until she retired to travel going where she wanted and doing what she wanted. As she’s shared pictures, video & stories from her fun-filled travels she received questions from women on how to travel solo successfully as a woman. Travel with Joy TV was born out of this growing demand for a personal solo travel guide for women! Get started today by signing up for Joy's 7 tips you must know when traveling solo at www.TravelWithJoyTV.com/newsletter.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Joy’s website
Joy on Instagram
Joy on Facebook
Joy on TikTok
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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.T FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.
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Andrea Owen is back, and I’m thrilled to share this inspiring conversation. If you’re navigating life’s messy moments, like divorce, this episode is a must-listen. Andrea, a keynote speaker, life coach, and bestselling author, is a force in women’s empowerment. She helps high-achieving women maximize unshakeable confidence, master their mindset, and magnify their courage.She’s here to discuss the re-release of her bestseller, 52 Ways to Live a Kick-Ass Life, now updated to strip away toxic positivity and include reflective coaching questions that spark real change. Andrea also shares her journey through her second divorce, offering insights into what’s different, what’s the same, and the lessons she’s learned.You’ll also hear:Your spouse’s reactions to your divorce may reveal someone different from the person you thought you married (12:48)Managing the emotional and mental toll of divorce (15:13)Building friendships, asking for help, and finding community in tough times (27:04)How relationships shift during transitions and the challenges of navigating those changes (29:16)Learn more about Andrea Owen:Andrea Owen is an author, global keynote speaker, and professional certified life coach who helps high-achieving women maximize unshakeable confidence, master their mindset, and magnify their courage. She has taught hundreds of thousands of women tools and strategies to be able to empower themselves to live their most kick-ass life through keynote speaking, her books, coaching, and her wildly popular podcast with over 4 million downloads.She is the proud author of How To Stop Feeling Like Shit: 14 Habits That Are Holding You Back From Happiness, published in 2018, then updated and re-released in 2022 (Seal Press/Hachette Books) which has been translated into 19 languages and is available in 23 countries, as well as Make Some Noise: Speak Your Mind and Own Your Strength (TarcherPerigee/Penguin Random-House), and 52 Ways to Live a Kick-Ass Life: BS Free Wisdom to Ignite Your Inner Badass and Live the Life You Deserve, (Adams Media/Simon & Schuster).Andrea is a Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC) from The Coaches Training Institute, a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) with the International Coaching Federation, a SHE RECOVERS® coach, as well as a Certified Daring Way™ Facilitator; a modality based on the research of Dr. Brené Brown.When she’s not juggling her full coaching practice or writing books, Andrea is busy riding her Peloton bike, or hanging out with her two teenagers. She is also a retired roller derby player having skated under the name “Veronica Vain”.Resources & Links:Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective52 Ways to Live a Kick-Ass LifeAndrea’s websiteAndrea on InstagramAndrea on Facebook===================DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.===================Episode link:https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-304-lessons-from-divorce-and-living-a-kick-ass-life-with-andrea-owen/
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I’m bringing back one of my most impactful conversations with psychologist and writer Dr. Kerry Kerr McAvoy about healing from narcissistic relationships. We unpack the challenges of being in a relationship with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder, the profound impact it can have on your emotional and mental well-being, and actionable strategies for self-nurturing after the relationship ends.
We also take a closer look at the common phrase “it takes two to tango” and what it means in the context of unhealthy relationships. If you’re healing from a toxic relationship or want to gain clarity on what healthy love looks like, listen to this episode again or tune in for the first time.
What you’ll hear:
We explore the phrase “It takes two to tango…” Does it, though, when narcissistic abuse or toxicity is involved in a relationship?
Is there anything that you can do to help a narcissistic and abusive partner? The short answer is no.
Narcissistic Personality is a disorder. It’s not a mental health condition. Kerry explains the distinction.
Focusing on and nurturing yourself back to life is essential in a relationship that has dimmed you.
Learn more about Kerry McAvoy:
Kerry Kerr McAvoy is a psychologist and a writer who educates on social media about cultivating healthy relationships, deconstructing narcissism, and understanding various other mental health-related issues. Her book, Love You More, gives an uncensored glimpse into the dynamics of narcissistic abuse.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Kerry’s book, Love You More
Kerry on TikTok
Kerry on Instagram
Kerry on Facebook
Kerry on YouTube
Why Can’t I Just Leave (book)
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Episode link:
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In this solo episode, I share strategies to help you find clarity amidst the overwhelm of abuse and divorce. I explain how borrowing someone else’s mental resilience—whether a trusted friend, mentor, or professional—can help you think clearly, make grounded decisions, and move forward with strength.You don’t have to do this alone. Let’s explore how leaning on support can make all the difference.What you’ll hear:Why proper documentation is essential for protecting yourself and your children, and how to do it effectively There is nothing wrong with you; the only thing wrong is the abuse you’re enduring, and you deserve to break freeSeeking support—whether by borrowing someone else’s clarity or building a strong team—can help you regain focus, confidence, and control over your lifeResources & Links:Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective===================DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.Episode link:https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-303-borrow-a-brain-gaining-clarity-and-strength-through-support/
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Sol Kennedy, founder of BestInterest, joins me to share how this groundbreaking co-parenting AI-powered app is revolutionizing the way parents navigate high-conflict situations. With features that automatically censor toxic communication, BestInterest helps you reclaim your peace, focus on healing, and show up fully for your kids.
This episode is all about empowering you to establish boundaries, disengage from unnecessary emotional triggers, and take control of your co-parenting dynamic—even when the other parent isn’t on the same page.
What you’ll hear:
How BestInterest helps you block out toxicity and protect your emotional well-being (7:46)
How to handle situations where your co-parent refuses to use the app (11:47)
Some of the tools and features of the app, including those that help you create and hold boundaries! (13:38)
Learn more about Sol Kennedy:
Sol Kennedy is the founder of BestInterest, an innovative, AI-powered app created to transform the co-parenting experience. As a co-parent himself, Sol understands the challenges of communication and stress that often accompany separated parenting. BestInterest offers tools to keep interactions respectful and child-focused, with features like advanced filters, customizable notifications, and a co-parenting journal that helps parents prioritize the children’s well-being. Sol’s mission is to empower co-parents to build peaceful, productive relationships, ultimately benefiting families and reducing conflict.
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
BestInterestApp website
BestInterestApp on Facebook
BestInterestApp on Instagram
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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.
Episode link:
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I’m diving into a big topic this week—the holidays during divorce. It can feel like walking an emotional tightrope while trying to hold onto some joy. Whether it’s your first holiday season after divorce, your last one as a family before separating, or you’ve been navigating holidays in divorce for a while, it’s a time that stirs up all the emotions.
Wherever you are in this process, I want you to know, that you’re not alone. And let’s be real, were the holidays stress-free before divorce? Probably not. This episode isn’t just about surviving the holidays—it’s about reclaiming them in a way that works for you and your kids. Get emotionally prepared, collaborate where it counts, and make choices that put your kids at the heart of it all.
In this episode, I dive into:
Self-care survival to ensure you’re showing up for yourself and your kids
Creating new traditions that align with who you are now
Navigating the tricky question of whether to celebrate together “for the kids”
Practical co-parenting strategies for gift-giving, scheduling, and prioritizing your children
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
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I’m thrilled to share this special Thanksgiving episode with you as the podcast celebrates a huge milestone: the 300th episode! To honor this accomplishment, I’m revisiting some of the most impactful episodes we’ve shared together. These conversations have left a lasting mark on many of you, and it’s a privilege to highlight them again.
This episode is my heartfelt thank you to this amazing community we’ve created together. Your dedication and willingness to show up for yourselves and each other mean the world to me. Here’s to continuing the journey!
Highlights in this episode:
Scenarios that are not your fucking job and why you need to stop carrying all the weight in your relationship – Episode 55: Not Your Fucking Job
What to know about divorcing a narcissist and the wild truths you can’t make up – Episode 156: Divorcing Your Narcissist with Tracy Malone
Listener Q&A on co-parenting with a manipulative ex and supporting your kids through divorce – Episode 161: Listener Q&A: Co-parenting with a Narcissist
Abuse recovery and advice for those considering reconciliation after their partner starts therapy – Episode 163: Covert Emotional Abuse with Annette Oltmans
Compassionate advice and exploring tough questions like “Where’s your line?” – Episode 177: Coercive Control with Dr. Christine Cocchiola
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Episodes highlighted:
Episode 55: Not Your Fucking Job
Episode 156: DIVORCING Your NARCISSIST: You Can’t Make This Shit Up! With Tracy Malone
Episode 161: Listener Q&A: Co-parenting with a Narcissist, Dealing with a Manipulative Co-parent, and Supporting Your Children Through Divorce
Episode 163: Covert Emotional Abuse with Annette Oltmans
Episode 177: Coercive Control with Dr. Christine Cocchiola
Episode 159: The Top Eight Symptoms of Narcissistic Abuse with Leanne Oaten
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I’m so excited to welcome back my dear friend and returning guest, Susan Guthrie, a leading family law attorney and mediator, for a robust conversation about the family court system. While family court often gets a bad rap (and yes, it needs reform), Susan and I dig into why it’s not always terrible. There is good that can come from it too.
Together, we’re breaking down what you can expect if you navigate the family court process, how to prepare for it, and how to make decisions that truly serve you and your kids. We’re also diving into the hot topic of no-fault divorce laws: Could they be repealed? And what would that mean for families going forward?
What You’ll Hear:
Why family court is necessary and not always the “necessary evil” it’s made out to be (7:09)
What most people can expect from the family court system (12:50)
How to prepare for your day in court, including what serves you and what doesn’t (17:25)
The likelihood of no-fault divorce laws being repealed and the potential implications (34:13)
Learn more about Susan Guthrie:
Susan Guthrie has been one of the leading family law attorneys and mediators in the country for more than 30 years and a world-wide expert in online mediation and she has trained over 20,000 professionals in the ethical and practical considerations in transitioning to a virtual practice. In late 2020, Susan and legal legend Forrest “Woody” Mosten partnered together to found the Mosten Guthrie Academy to provide top of the line training for mediators and collaborative professionals in a virtual format world-wide. Her award-winning podcast, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast, is one of the top 1% of podcasts worldwide and she is known to millions of listeners around the world as the “divorce voice you can trust!”
Resources & Links:
Unbreakable - the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Susan’s podcast
Susan on Instagram @susanguthrieesq and @divorceandbeyond
Thanks to our sponsor: Future Fans
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Episode link:
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I’m excited to welcome Tina Swithin back to the show for a powerful conversation about Family Court Awareness Month, which she founded five years ago to shine a light on the deep issues within our family court system.
Together, we dive into the systemic obstacles—from the lack of judicial training on domestic abuse to the financial incentives that keep conflicts alive in court. Tina also walks us through important legislative efforts, like Kayden’s Law and Piqui's Law, named after children who lost their lives due to preventable court failures.
This episode is all about the critical importance of grassroots advocacy, educational efforts, and collective action to protect children and their families and demand accountability in our courts.
Featured Topics:
The harsh realities and challenges in the family court system (2:30)
How financial incentives feed systemic corruption (10:00)
The need for judicial education on domestic abuse (12:27)
The impact of Kayden’s Law and Piqui's Law on state legislation (16:09)
Support networks and grassroots efforts pushing for change (24:18)
Educational resources and future advocacy goals (36:34)
Learn more about Tina Swithin:
Tina Swithin is the author of Divorcing a Narcissist (series), founder of One Mom’s Battle and the High Conflict Divorce Coach Certification Program. Tina Swithin continues to champion children’s rights through her family court advocacy. Tina is working to raise awareness of the issues in the family court system and to educate the general public on post separation abuse, narcissistic abuse and the "alienation industry." Tina is a cofounder of the organization, nationalsafeparents.org and volunteers her time helping with family court reform through awareness, education and improved legislation such as Kayden's Law.
Resources & Links:
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
One Mom’s Battle
Tina’s Lemonade Wisdom: Divorcing a Narcissist
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Episode Link:
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We kick off Family Court Awareness Month with Dr. Christine Cocchiola and Amy Polacko as we talk about their new book, Framed: Women in the Family Court Underworld. This collection of 22 women’s stories raises awareness about the systemic issues plaguing family courts, aiming to ignite awareness about the family court crisis by sharing the voices of those directly impacted.
In this episode, Dr. Cocchiola and Polacko highlight the deep-seated misogyny and financial exploitation within family courts, emphasizing that this isn't just a U.S. issue—it's a global crisis that affects women of all races, demographics, and socioeconomic backgrounds. This episode is a call for awareness and action. Together, we can advocate for systemic change to better protect victims and their children.
Featured topics:
The family court crisis and how the assumption of justice often falls short, leaving victims unsupported (3:56)
How disclosure of abuse can lead to devastating consequences, including loss of custody (4:35)
Deeply rooted biases allow a system to profit from the suffering of women and children (5:41)
The danger and harm of reunification therapy and camps (18:19)
Kayden’s Law, enforcing legislation, and how everyone can join the fight for family court reform (22:51)
Learn more about Dr. Christine Cocchiola and Amy Polacko:
Dr. Christine Marie Cocchiola, DSW, LCSW, is a Coercive Control Educator, Researcher, and survivor. She is a tenured college professor teaching social work for the last 20 years. She has been a social justice advocate since 19, volunteering for a local domestic violence/sexual assault agency. Her expertise is in coercive control and the traumatic experiences of adult and child victims, researching and developing training on these topics nationally and internationally.
Amy Polacko is a Freedom Warrior - and is committed to helping women live life on their own terms during/after a toxic relationship or divorce. As a divorced single mom, she is passionate about coaching women one-on-one and founded the empowerment group Strong Savvy Women to provide support, inspiration, and guidance to single women. Amy is also an award-winning journalist who sheds light on women's issues including divorce, domestic abuse, coercive control, and singlehood.
Resources & Links:
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Framed: Women In the Family Court Underworld for more information and workshops!
Dr. Cocchiola’s website
Amy’s website
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Episode Link:
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Yesterday morning, like many of you, I woke up to the devastating news that a convicted rapist with countless indictments has been re-elected to lead our country. As I sit with this heavy reality, I’m thinking of all of you—especially women in difficult relationships and those in marginalized communities facing fresh threats to our freedoms.
Today, I turn to a Zen Buddhist saying to help me keep going: “Chop wood, carry water.” It reminds me that there is nothing you must do in life other than what must be done. So today, I stare into the void, speak to women, reassure my son, and cuddle my animals.
Chop wood, carry water.
And later, I will continue the fight.
Please know that I will never stop fighting for you, for us, for our children and their futures.
Resources & Links:
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective -
In this solo episode, I’m diving into the journey of letting go and reclaiming your power during the divorce process, especially if you’re healing from abuse. I know firsthand the mental conditioning and hypervigilance one endures during an abusive relationship, which is why it’s so crucial to establish firm boundaries, even when fear tries to hold you back.
I share a personal story of setting boundaries in the face of a controlling relationship and offer practical tips for stepping away from manipulative people, like muting their messages and using support tools such as Aimee Says. Remember, you deserve happiness, and I'm here to help you find it.
Featured topics:
How to reclaim your power and protect your peace
Strategies to stay grounded and maintain boundaries
Discover how self-worth fuels your healing journey
A reminder that healing is not linear
Resources & Links:
Drop the Rope - 20 Phrases to Disengage from Conflict Free Download
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Aimee Says
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Episode Link:
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Bill Eddy is back on the show to dive into a critical topic: adult bullies. With election season upon us, the presence of bullies—whether in politics, the workplace, relationships, or even parenting—can feel more intense than ever. Bill, Chief Innovation Officer of the High Conflict Institute and author of Our New World of Adult Bullies: How to Spot Them – How to Stop Them, explains how today's media-driven culture fuels the rise of adult bullies, encouraging aggression and disregarding rules.
We explore how bullies create crises out of thin air, positioning themselves as heroes of their made-up stories. Plus, Bill shares concrete examples of adult bullying in the world today, how it impacts children when parents are the bullies, and why it's crucial to stand together against bullies to take them down.
Listen and learn how to protect yourself and your loved ones from the emotional manipulation bullies use to gain power.
Featured topics:
What defines an adult bully and the key traits to look out for (4:30)
The secret weapon of bullies: emotional manipulation and the "crisis-villain-hero" narrative (8:04)
How media and social media fuel the growth of adult bullies (15:27)
How parents can inadvertently turn their children away from a co-parent (24:09)
The importance of empathy: addressing bullying without becoming bullies ourselves (34:56)
The future of adult bullies: what to expect and how to stand against them (49:27)
Learn more about Bill Eddy:
Bill Eddy is the author of Our New World of Adult Bullies: How to Spot Them – How to Stop Them and the Chief Innovation Officer of the High Conflict Institute based in San Diego, California. He trains lawyers, judges, mediators, and therapists throughout the United States and a dozen other countries in managing high-conflict family, workplace, and legal disputes. He is the author of over 20 books and manuals and has a popular blog on PsychologyToday.com.
Resources & Links:
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
High Conflict Institute
Bill’s book “Our New World of Adult Bullies: How to Spot Them, How to Stop Them”
The High Conflict Institute on Facebook
The High Conflict Institute on Instagram
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Episode Link:
https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-295-adult-bullies-with-bill-eddy-your-vote-your-choice/ - Visa fler
