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  • What are the most common delays that prolong a practice sale?

    In general, the people who hold up deals are banks and landlords.

    But there are steps both buyers and sellers can take to prevent these delays and shorten the timeline for a dental practice sale!

    On this episode of the Dental Board Room Podcast, Dental Attorney Matt Odgers joins host Wes Read to continue their conversation on expediting a practice sale.

    Matt and Wes discuss how to fast-track legal and clinical due diligence, explaining why it’s crucial to negotiate vendor contracts and lease terms before you list your practice.

    They also share 4 ways to determine the value of your practice and describe the relationship between list price and closing timeline.

    Listen in to understand why buyers and sellers should both reach out to the bank early on and find out if Practice Orbit can help speed up the sale of your dental practice.

    Topics Covered

    The legal documents a seller needs to prepare for a practice saleWhy it’s crucial to negotiate vendor contracts and talk to your landlord before you list your practiceWhat a seller can do to expedite the clinical due diligence of a practice saleWhat a buyer can do to accelerate the timeline for a practice sale4 ways to determine the price of your practice and how the list price impacts the closing timelineCommon delays in closing a practice sale associated with banks and landlordsWhy it’s the seller’s responsibility to negotiate the lease terms a buyer might needHow much faster you can close a practice sale if it’s staged wellHow Practice Orbit accelerates the process of selling your dental practiceWhy you need a ballpark valuation of your dental practice and how to get it done for free2 reasons you might use Practice Orbit to sell your dental practice

    Connect with Matt Odgers

    Odgers Law Group

    Odgers Law on LinkedIn

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources

    Dr. Kevin Kenny on the Dental Board Room Podcast

    The Role of Escrow on the Dental Board Room Podcast

  • Once a dentist makes the decision to sell their practice, they want it done yesterday. 

    So, how long does a practice sale usually take? What can you do to accelerate that timeline?

    On this episode of the Dental Board Room Podcast, Dental Attorney Matt Odgers joins host Wes Read to walk you through a typical timeline for selling a dental practice.

    Matt and Wes discuss common delays that prolong the process, describing how to avoid those issues and shorten the timeline for a practice sale.

    Listen in for insight on staging your practice for a sale and learn how to leverage Practice Orbit technology to fast-track the process of selling your dental practice.

    Topics Covered

    Common timelines for a practice sale and important mile markers in the journeyWes’ motorcycle analogy for the process of buying a dental practiceWhy it’s beneficial to hire your accountant and attorney at the point of NDAHow Practice Orbit technology shortens the timeline for selling your dental practicePotential consequences when the LOI to close period extends beyond 60 daysWhy it typically takes 4 months to sell a practice (once you’ve made the decision)What you can do to shorten the timeline for a dental practice saleHow staging your practice for a sale is like preparing dinner for a family reunionWhy Matt & Wes suggest having a weekly huddle with your team to drive the practice sale forwardThe primary financial and tax documents you need to prepare for a practice sale

    Connect with Matt Odgers

    Odgers Law Group

    Odgers Law on LinkedIn

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources

    Dr. Kevin Kenny on the Dental Board Room Podcast

    The Role of Escrow on the Dental Board Room Podcast

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  • When is the best time to sell your dental practice? What factors should you consider to get the best price for your practice and have the best quality of life in retirement?

    On this episode of the Dental Board Room Podcast, recurring guest Matt Odgers joins host Wes Read to explain why you want to start the process of selling your practice when collections are on the upswing.

    Matt and Wes discuss the challenges of planning for a practice sale before there’s a crisis, challenging you to consider the financial and psychological aspects of retiring from dentistry.

    Listen in for insight around selling your practice for reasons other than retirement and learn how to time the sale of your dental practice to get the best deal and ensure a smooth transition to the next phase of your life!

    Topics Covered

    Why you want to start the process of selling your practice when it’s on the upThe psychological challenge of planning for a practice sale before there’s a crisisWhy you should know what your practice is worth (even if you have no intention of selling)Crises that require an immediate sale vs. crises that expedite the timeline for a saleWhy financial independence is a primary factor in timing the sale of a practiceHow to know if you’re psychologically ready to stop working as a dentistWhy Matt & Wes suggest planning what to do with your time once you retireHow rising collections impact the price of a practice and speed of its saleWhy it’s easier to sell a million-dollar practice as opposed to a $500,000 oneWes’ advice on paying off a 10-year practice loanWhat differentiates buying a dental practice from buying real estateSelling your practice to retire vs. selling your practice to pay off debtThe benefits of selling your dental practice when interest rates are lowWhy Matt recommends timing the sale of your practice with your lease

    Connect with Matt Odgers

    Odgers Law Group

    Odgers Law on LinkedIn

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

  • Is a salesperson trying to talk you into claiming an R&D tax credit for your dental office? 

    It can be tempting to trust a pitch like this and leverage research and development to reduce your tax liability.

    But how do you satisfy IRS criteria for the R&D tax credit? What documentation do you need? And what happens if you get audited?

    Andre Shevchuck serves as Partner at BPM, one of the country’s top 20 accounting and advisory firms.

    Andre oversees the Specialized Tax Services Practice at BPM, helping clients identify, document and defend their R&D tax credit claims.

    On this episode of the Dental Board Room Podcast, Andre joins host Wes Read to discuss the four criteria for claiming the R&D tax credit and explain how it’s calculated.

    Andre describes what the IRS can do to discredit a claim, challenging dentists to exercise caution before you let a salesperson talk you into taking the R&D tax credit.

    Listen in for insight on mitigating your tax liability without abusing the system and learn when it’s appropriate to claim the R&D tax credit for your dental practice—and when it isn’t!

    Topics Covered

    Andre’s expertise in specialized tax services and representing clients against the IRS

    The 4 criteria for a business owner to claim the R&D tax credit

    Why demonstrating technical uncertainty is key in qualifying for the R&D tax credit

    How salespeople downplay the risk of claiming the R&D tax credit if you don’t meet all 4 criteriaWhat the IRS can do to discredit an R&D tax credit claim

    How your entity structure impacts your risk of being audited for an R&D tax credit 

    How the R&D tax credit is calculated

    How the R&D tax credit allows for a deduction and tax credit on the same expenses

    How the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act adversely affects business owners who want to start claiming the R&D tax credit

    Why aggressive salespeople aren’t necessarily on the hook if the IRS revokes your R&D tax credit 

    Capitalizing R&D work vs. claiming it as an expense on your taxes

    How to be aggressive on taxes for your practice without the abusing the system  

    Connect with Andre Shevchuck

    Andre at BPM

    Andre on LinkedIn

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    Amortizing R&D Expenses Under the TCJA

  • You’ve worked so hard for so long to build a private dental practice in your community. But now you’re thinking about exiting the business.

    So, how do you know when it’s time to retire? What can you do to plan for the next chapter of your life?

    Dr. Kevin M. Kenny is Adjunct Professor at the University of California, San Diego, and Founder of The Dr. Kevin M. Kenny Foundation, an organization that provides dental care at no cost to the working poor in San Diego and sponsors humanitarian missions overseas.

    Dr. Kenny ran his own large private dental practice in San Diego for many years before retiring seven years ago.

    On this episode of the Dental Board Room Podcast, Dr. Kenny joins host Wes Read to explain how he knew it was time to pass the torch and share his experience with selling a successful dental practice.

    Dr. Kenny discusses the team of advisors you need to plan a practice sale and challenges us to consider what retirement will look like before we walk away.

    Listen in for Dr. Kenny’s advice to young doctors on buying a dental practice and learn his simple blueprint for a successful practice sale.

    Topics Covered

    A high-level overview of Dr. Kenny’s career as a dentist

    How Dr. Kenny knew it was time to sell his practice

    Determining how much money you need for retirement

    How bankers calculate the value of a dental practice

    The CPAs role in helping you plan for a practice sale

    Mitigating your tax liability in a dental practice sale

    When to do a broker sale and when to sell your practice privately

    The pros and cons of selling your practice to a DSO

    Why you should hire an attorney who specializes in dental transitions

    Cleaning up your books before you sell your practice

    How to create a business plan for your retirement

    Advice for young doctors who’ve just bought a practice

    Dr. Kenny’s blueprint for a successful practice sale

    The humanitarian mission of Dr. Kenny’s foundation

    Connect with Dr. Kevin Kenny

    The Dr. Kevin M. Kenny Foundation

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    Dr. Kenny on Dental Board Room Podcast EP018

    McLerran & Associates

    Global Dental Relief

    How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie

  • For most practice owners, the dentistry is the easy part. What’s hard is managing your team, especially with the current dental staffing shortage.

    So, what factors contribute to this shortage of staff? What can doctors do to solve this systemic issue?

    David Schwab, PhD,  is a professional speaker, author and dental practice management consultant who helps dentists grow their practices, educate their patients and train their teams.

    On this episode of the Dental Board Room Podcast, David joins host Wes Read to explain what’s behind the dental staffing shortage and how we might address it with virtual workers, part-timers and temps.

    David offers advice on addressing employees who chronically call in sick, conducting performance reviews, and responding to requests for a raise.

    Listen in for insight on the Ritz-Carlton concept of lateral service and learn David’s top strategies for building and managing your team through the current dental staffing shortage.

    Topics Covered

    Why managing your team is the most difficult aspect of running a dental practice 

    Why there’s a shortage of dental staff and what doctors can do to solve the problem

    The evolution of virtual work in dental practices

    David’s take on hiring virtual assistants from places like the Philippines or Africa

    What dental office tasks are likely to be outsourced moving forward

    The advantages of hiring part-timers and people without a background in dentistry

    How the emergence of online marketplaces might impact the dental space

    How well-documented processes allow doctors to leverage temporary employees

    David’s advice on addressing employees who chronically call in sick

    David’s ‘open book test’ system for performance reviews

    How dentists should respond to employee requests for a raise

    The benefit of open-book management that allows staff to understand overhead

    What dentists can learn from the Ritz-Carlton concept of lateral service

    David’s background and experience as a dental management business consultant

    Connect with David Schwab

    David Schwab Dental Practice Management Consulting

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    Trainual

    SweetProcess

    The E Myth by Michael E. Gerber

    Entrepreneurial Operating System

  • In the aftermath of COVID, there was a massive boom in dental practice transactions. 

    The market finally corrected itself in 2023. And while doctor-to-doctor private sales remained consistent, DSO sales slowed dramatically.

    So, what caused these market trends? What does the market look like so far in 2024? And how will understanding trends help you make informed decisions as you buy or sell your own dental practice?

    David Cohen is Managing Attorney at Cohen Law Firm, a legal practice with a unique focus on dentists and dental specialists. His team does between 300 to 400 practice transactions nationwide every year.

    On this episode of the Dental Board Room Podcast, David joins host Drew Phillips to discuss how the DSO and private practice markets have evolved since 2020.

    David shares his process for helping clients decide between DSO versus private practice deals and describes how deal terms are changing on the DSO end in 2024.  

    Listen in to understand what’s behind the uptick in private partnerships in recent months and learn how to make the best decision for selling your dental practice based on your circumstances and current market trends.

    Topics Covered

    How David’s family background inspired his work with dentists

    How the DSO and private practice markets have evolved from 2020 to present

    How David helps clients decide between private and DSO deals

    How DSO deal terms are changing to favor the DSO

    David’s insight on the uptick in both private partnerships and 100% sales

    What’s behind the rise of workbacks in private practice sales

    Connect with David Cohen

    Cohen Law Firm

    Practice Transitions [R]evolution Facebook Group

    Cohen Property Law Group

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    Seattle Study Club

  • Is good help hard to find when it comes to staffing your dental practice?

    According to the ADA Health Policy Institute, staffing shortages, recruitment and retention are among dentists’ top concerns moving into 2024. 

    But what if you could easily find A players to fill your open positions? A players who will stick with your team for the long term?

    Dr. Michael Neal is Founder and CEO of Build My Team, an affordable, outsourced healthcare hiring service that provides highly qualified job candidates for your dental practice.

    A practicing optometrist in rural Pennsylvania, Dr. Neal created Build My Team to solve his own hiring challenges. Today, the platform serves healthcare providers in 40 states and Canada.

    On this episode of The Dental Board Room, Dr. Neal joins host Drew Phillips to share the Build My Team process for hiring staff in healthcare practices without resumes or traditional interviews.

    Dr. Neal explains how Build My Team designs an algorithm specific to your open position and collects data from job candidates to find A players for your practice.

    Listen in to understand how Build My Team solves for the supply issue in healthcare staffing and learn how Dr. Neal can help you find employees with the skills and talents to excel on your team. 

    Topics Covered

    [0:23] The Build My Team process for hiring staff in healthcare practices

    [1:54] What data Build My Team collects from job candidates to find A players for a practices

    [4:21] How Build My Team creates an algorithm specific to each position

    [6:18] Build My Team’s guidance around finding employees who will excel in a given role

    [8:23] How Build My Team collects the data they use to refine their algorithms

    [9:46] What inspired Dr. Neal to design the Build My Team process

    [11:14] Dr. Neal’s advice on creating a culture that retains A players

    [12:05] How Build My Team solves for the supply issue in healthcare staffing

    [13:34] What language Build My Team uses in its job descriptions

    [17:52] How Build My Team informs a candidate that they’re no longer in the running for a position

    [20:07] Why Build My Team asks applicants an open-ended question re: wage expectations

    [23:05] Success stories of practices that used Build My Team to fill open positions

    [25:07] Why you shouldn’t be afraid to hire team members without experience (for non-licensed positions)

    [27:23] The typical timeline for filling an opening with Build My Team

    [28:44] How the Build My Team process serves rural clients with a small talent pool

    [30:23] How Build My Team helps a practice work with new team members

    Connect with Dr. Michael Neal

    Build My Team

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO...

  • You cannot sell a dental practice without clean books. And you definitely shouldn’t buy a practice without having an accountant evaluate its potential profitability.

    But a good dental CPA has value beyond assisting with the basics of bookkeeping and price assessment.

    So, what is the full value proposition of an experienced CPA in the context of a dental practice sale?

    On this episode of our Dental Practice Transitions series, Dental Attorney Matt Odgers serves as guest host and interviews Wes Read on the role of a CPA in the practice transaction.

    Wes explains how a good dental CPA forecasts the range of profitability for a buyer, and he walks us through the process of financial due diligence in a dental transition.

    Listen in to understand how a CPA helps buyers make business decisions after closing and develop the mindset of a business owner to grow a financially successful dental practice.

    Topics Covered

    An overview of the CPA’s role in a dental transaction

    How a good dental CPA assesses the profitability of a practice

    Wes’ approach to forecasting the range of profitability for a buyer

    How Wes defines financial due diligence in a dental transaction

    Using a seller’s tax returns to validate data on a P&L

    How a dental CPA might coach buyers on business decisions

    What to do as a seller if your books are not in order

    What a buyer should expect in terms of CPA fees for due diligence

    PracticeCFO’s relationship with a buying dentist after closing

    What differentiates the mindset of a clinician vs. business owner

    Connect with Matt Odgers

    Odgers Law Group

    Email [email protected]

    Connect with Wes Read

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    What You Need to Know About Submitting an LOI on DPS EP003

    Must-Have vs. Nice-to-Have: Shaping the Terms of Your LOI on DPS EP004

    Practice Sales: The Role of Escrow on DPS EP010

    Practice Sales: The Role of an Attorney on DPS EP011

    Episode Promo Videos 

    Video Promo 1

  • Every dental practice sale involves several legal documents. And that’s why an attorney is a crucial part of the transition team for both buyers and sellers.

    But what, exactly, does a dental attorney do in the practice sale process? What should you look for in an attorney to help you buy or sell a dental practice?

    On this episode of our Dental Practice Transitions series, Dental Attorney Matt Odgers is back with host Wes Read to discuss the role an attorney plays in the dental practice transition.

    Matt and Wes walk us through the legal documents required in every practice sale as well as the deal-specific ancillary documents you might need.

    Wes asks why it’s crucial to have a dental attorney review your LOI, and Matt explains what an asset sale agreement does and how it’s negotiated. 

    Listen in for insight on the attorney’s role in negotiating either the lease or real estate purchase agreement and learn why it’s beneficial to use a dental specific attorney for your practice transition!

    Topics Covered

    The documents a dental attorney addresses in a given practice sale

    Why it’s crucial to have a dental attorney review your LOI

    What provisions in an LOI are binding (and which ones are non-binding)

    How a good LOI includes timelines for due diligence

    Matt’s approach when a buyer has little money in the bank but needs an LOI review

    The purpose of the asset sale agreement and how attorneys negotiate it

    Why it’s beneficial to use a dental specific attorney vs. a general business attorney

    How a good dental attorney moves the deal forward when the other side won’t budge on a particular term

    The attorney’s role in reviewing a lease and negotiating with the landlord

    When to ask for a lease extension when the buyer takes over

    How the process differs when a seller is at the end of their lease or owns the real estate

    When you need a workback agreement or seller financing note

    Connect with Matt Odgers

    Odgers Law Group

    Email [email protected]

    Connect with Wes Read

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    What You Need to Know About Submitting an LOI on DPS EP003

    Must-Have vs. Nice-to-Have: Shaping the Terms of Your LOI on DPS EP004

    The Role of Escrow in a Dental Practice Sale on DPS EP010

    Episode Promo Videos 

  • What role does escrow play in a dental practice transition? How does it benefit buyers and sellers alike? 

    Should you use an escrow for your practice sale?

    Matt Odgers is a Dental Attorney with Odgers Law Group and VP of Business Development and Legal Operations with Practice Orbit.

    Matt has more than a decade of experience representing hundreds of dentists in the process of buying or selling a practice.

    On this episode of the podcast, Matt joins host Wes Read to discuss the purpose of escrow in a private practice sale, beginning with the financial security it affords sellers.

    Matt and Wes explain why buyers have a larger representation when an escrow is involved and how it significantly increases the probability of closing the deal.

    Listen in to understand how an escrow agent helps move a dental practice transaction forward and learn when you can avoid using escrow vs. when it is necessary to protect you in a dental practice sale.

    Topics Covered

    What inspired Wes & Matt’s podcast series on dental practice transitions

    How Practice Orbit simplifies the dental practice sale process

    How using an escrow affords dental practice sellers financial security

    Why the buyer has larger representation when an escrow is involved

    Why Wes & Matt are advocates of earnest money in the escrow process

    How escrow instructions should be built into the letter of intent 

    How an escrow significantly increases the probability of closing a deal

    The escrow agent’s role in moving a dental practice transaction forward 

    How an escrow statement makes things easier from an accounting, tax and legal standpoint

    When it makes sense to hold back a percentage of the purchase price in escrow (and release it to the seller after certain conditions are met)

    When you might avoid using an escrow in a dental practice sale

    Connect with Matt Odgers

    Odgers Law Group

    Email [email protected]

    Connect with Wes Read

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    What You Need to Know About Submitting an LOI on DPS EP003

    Must-Have vs. Nice-to-Have: Shaping the Terms of Your LOI on DPS EP004

    Episode Promo Videos 

    Video Promo 1

  • Inflation is down and the stock market is rallying in response. But the Fed is exercising caution before it lowers interest rates.

    What does that mean for you and me? What should we be investing in right now?

    Paul Lipcious, CPA, serves as Partner and Senior CFO Advisor and Brandon Hobson, CFA, CPA, is Chief Investment Officer at Practice CFO.

    On this episode of The Dental Board Room Podcast, Brandon and Paul join host Drew Phillips for the continuation of The Dental Board Room Podcast's quarterly investment podcast series.

    Brandon, Paul and Drew explain why the current markets are overly optimistic and where interest rates are likely to go in Q1 and Q2 of next year. 

    They go on to discuss what sectors they favor moving into 2024 and how they’re making decisions around equity allocations based on the current economic environment.

    Listen in to understand what factors might create a softening of the real estate market and learn why Brandon, Paul and Drew recommend sticking to a long-term investment strategy versus trying to time the market.

    Topics Covered

    How the Fed might respond to the recent improvement in core inflation numbers

    Why the markets are being overly optimistic by pricing in the Fed’s next move

    The Magnificent 7 stocks that are driving market performance right now

    Why we can’t count on the continued growth of the Magnificent 7

    What sectors Brandon, Paul and Drew favor moving into 2024

    Where interest rates might go from here and how they’re influenced by employment, inflation and fiscal policy

    The likelihood that quantitative tightening will hold through next year

    How to adjust portfolio allocations in lieu of the decrease in the 10-year yield

    How Practice CFO is making decisions around equity allocations based on the current economy

    What differentiates value vs. growth stocks (and why we prefer value over growth)

    How to assess the health of a company based on capitalization and debt loads

    How wage inflation is affecting dentists and dental specialists

    How interest rates and inflation influence real estate and what factors might create a softening in the market

    Why time in the market is more important than timing the market

    Connect with Brandon Hobson & Paul Lipcius

    Brandon at Practice CFO

    Paul at Practice CFO

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected] 

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

  • What are the most common legal issues a dental practice might face? 

    How can dentists protect themselves from insurance audits? Board investigations? Or criminal charges?

    Justin Withrow is Partner at Flannery Georgalis, LLC, where he specializes in representing dentists in regulatory investigations, insurance audits, professional licensing matters and complex business litigation.

    Matt Odgers serves as Dental Attorney at Odgers Law Group, a firm with expertise in representing buyers and sellers in the purchase or sale of a dental practice.

    On this episode of The Dental Board Room, Justin and Matt join host Wes Read to explain how a dental practice should approach sensitive legal matters.

    Justin describes how a practice gets selected for an insurance audit, challenging dentists to put systems in place and conduct internal compliance checks to prepare for such an audit.

    Matt and Wes ask what triggers a state board investigation, and Justin offers advice on reaching out to malpractice and securing legal counsel for your dental practice.

    Listen in for insight on why a practice might find itself under criminal investigation and learn how the right attorney can help you navigate these challenging legal matters.

    Topics Covered

    [1:56] Justin’s background representing dentists with sensitive legal matters

    [4:54] How a dental practice gets selected for an insurance audit

    [8:03] Examples of statistical outliers that might trigger an insurance audit

    [10:44] Variations in provider agreements among private insurance companies

    [12:14] How often private insurance companies turn over the findings of an audit to a state board for criminal action

    [13:41] 4 potential outcomes of an insurance audit and why it’s crucial to respect the process and respond in a timely manner

    [18:52] The typical terms built into a contract between an insurer and provider (and how to terminate such an agreement)

    [21:08] Building systems into your dental practice to prepare for an insurance audit

    [22:39] How to properly document services provided and withstand the scrutiny of an insurance audit

    [24:51] The benefit of having Justin’s firm conduct a compliance check for your practice

    [27:20] What triggers a state board investigation of a dental practice

    [30:03] Why a practice should take a state board investigation seriously from Day One

    [35:05] When Justin suggests reaching out to your malpractice provider

    [38:45] The quality of legal advice from on-panel providers for an insurance company

    [42:20] Justin’s advice on how to secure legal counsel for a board investigation

    [43:59] What partner dentists in a DSO can do to protect themselves from a board investigation

    [47:16] Why a dental practice might find itself under criminal investigation

    [51:35] The challenge of rebuilding a practice after a search warrant is executed

    [53:17] Why Justin suggests consulting a lawyer before you answer any questions in a criminal investigation

    [56:01] Case studies of 2 dentists Justin represented in criminal investigations

    Connect with Justin Withrow

    Justin on LinkedIn

    Flannery Georgalis

    Connect with Matt Odgers

    Matt on LinkedIn

    Odgers Law Group

    Connect with Wes Read & Drew...

  • If you see your hygienist as someone who simply cleans teeth, you’re missing an opportunity.

    Steve Sperry characterizes hygienists as treatment coordinators who are licensed to clean teeth. And he suggests compensating them for motivating patients to improve their overall health.

    But what does that look like? How might you incentivize your hygienists to educate patients while they’re cleaning their teeth?

    Steve is President of Inventive Dental Solutions and Coauthor of Hygiene Superstar. With 25 years of experience in dental practice management, Steve is passionate about helping dentists grow as leaders and build a successful business.

    On this episode of The Dental Board Room, Steve joins host Wes Read to explain how to quadruple the production of your hygienist.

    Steve challenges us to look at a dental practice as a subscription model business and compensate hygienists based on dollars scheduled coming out of the room.

    Listen in for insight on using real-time data to run a practice more effectively and learn how to leverage ‘hygiene superstars’ to make your practice more profitable!

    Topics Covered

    [0:59] The differences among leadership, management and teaming

    [8:19] How dentists can use real-time data to run a practice more effectively

    [19:20] Why Steve sees hygienists as ‘treatment coordinators licensed to clean teeth’

    [26:01] The benefit of looking at your practice as a subscription model business

    [27:45] Compensating hygienists for their global impact on patients

    [41:03] How much revenue comes from hygiene vs. restorative work in the most profitable practices

    [44:06] How to build appropriate incentive vehicles for your staff

    Connect with Steve Sperry

    Inventive Dental Solutions

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources

    Hygiene Superstar by Mike Czubiak and Steve Sperry

    EOS

    The 7 Habits of Highly Successful People by Stephen R. Covey

    Bryan Johnson Blueprint

    Dr. Mark Costes on Dental Board Room EP054

  • There's nothing overly complex about the business of owning a dental practice.

    And while anybody who’s graduated from dental school can understand the operational side of running a practice, you still need to take the time to learn how it all works.

    Dr. Mark Costes is Founder and CEO of The Dental Success Institute, a coaching program that helps dentists become more knowledgeable, more profitable and more fulfilled in their careers.

    On this episode of The Dental Boardroom, Dr. Costes joins host Wes Read to explain how associates can design their own internship in the business of running a practice—even if they’re working for a DSO.

    Dr. Costes discusses the importance of identifying a purpose beyond money, describing how Smile Outreach International affords him fulfillment now that he’s achieved financial freedom.

    Listen in as Dr. Costes shares the business framework he used to grow his practice from one dental office to 16 and learn where to go for coaching in the business of scaling your own dental practice!

    Topics Covered 

    [0:13] What inspired Dr. Costes’ interest in dentistry and entrepreneurship

    [8:31] Dr. Costes’ early experience as a dentist prior to buying his own practice

    [15:21] What associates can do learn about the operational side of running a dental practice (especially if you’re working for a DSO)

    [19:32] How to create your own internship in the business of running a dental practice

    [28:28] The business framework Dr. Costes designed as he grew his practice from one dental office to 16

    [37:06] Who’s the right fit for Dr. Costes’ Dental Success Institute coaching program

    [41:21] Dr. Costes’ growing role as an advisor to dental business startups

    [43:58] What Dr. Costes has learned from building charitable dental clinics in Third World countries

    [47:57] The relationship between living your purpose and feeling fulfilled 

    Connect with Dr. Mark Costes 

    The Dentalpreneur Podcast with Dr. Mark Costes

    Dental Success Network

    Dental Success Institute

    Smile Outreach International

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources

    Wes Read on The Dentalpreneur...

  • Imagine receiving a phone call at your dental office from a government official implicating you in a drug case.

    The alleged official asks for sensitive information, and you’re too anxious about clearing your name to question his legitimacy.

    That’s exactly what happened to Dr. Ursula Levine, a dentist out of Irvine, California. Dr. Levine immigrated to the US from Germany 30 years ago and has had her own private practice since 2004.

    On this episode The Dental Boardroom Podcast, Dr. Levine joins host Wes Read to walk us through the call she received from a scammer posing as a DEA agent and explain why she initially believed he was legitimate.

    Dr. Levine considers why she may have been the target of fraud and describes what made her suspicious that the situation was a scam.

    Listen in for Dr. Levine’s advice on safeguarding sensitive information and learn how to protect yourself and your practice from identity theft, phishing scams and other kinds of fraud!

    Topics Covered

    [1:12] How Dr. Levine immigrated from Germany and has had her own dental practice since 2004

    [3:20] The initial call Dr. Levine received from a scammer posing as a DEA agent

    [6:21] Why Dr. Levine initially believed that the caller was a legitimate DEA agent

    [8:08] What information the scammer asked for in his first few conversations with Dr. Levine

    [10:27] Why Dr. Levine may have been the target of this scammer

    [16:41] What made Dr. Levine suspicious that the DEA agent wasn’t legitimate

    [21:51] How the imposter DEA agent attempted to get Dr. Levine to send him money

    [26:14] Dr. Levine’s advice on what to do if you receive a call from an alleged government official

    [28:31] Dr. Levine and Wes’ advice on how to protect yourself from identity theft

    [34:50] Wes’ experience with sophisticated phishing scams directed at his team

    Connect with Dr. Ursula Levine

    Levine Dentistry

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

    Practice CFO on YouTube

    Resources 

    FreeCreditReport.com

    LifeLock

    IdentityTheft.gov

    LastPass

  • What is the best approach to reaching capacity at your dental practice?

    We tend to equate ad spend with results, but the worst thing you can do is spend a lot of money on marketing when your systems are not set up to handle the leads that are coming in.

    So, how do you find the right balance between operational efficiency and marketing?

    Marketing Expert Ryan Gross is the founder of CMOShare, a data-driven dental marketing and consulting agency based in Lincoln, Nebraska. 

    Ryan has more than 15 years of experience in marketing, brand management, communications and sales in the attraction industry and the dental space.

    On this episode of The Dental Boardroom Podcast, Ryan joins host Drew Phillips to discuss CMOShare’s unique, operations-first approach to dental marketing.

    Ryan explains why it’s crucial to optimize inbound call answer rates before you put money into marketing and challenges dental practices to track their phone and online conversions.

    Listen in for Ryan’s insight on determining the right ad spend to reach your patient acquisition goals and learn how to find a marketing company that’s the right fit for your dental practice.

    Topics Covered

    [0:52] Ryan’s background in marketing and how he got into the dental space

    [2:00] What the client evaluation process looks like at CMOShare

    [4:11] How Ryan’s team analyzes data to determine inbound call answer rates

    [8:14] Why it’s crucial to optimize answer rates before you put money into marketing

    [12:11] Why your answer rate might be below Ryan’s recommended goal of 85%

    [14:36] What to do if your conversion rate is lower than average

    [19:24] Conversion rates for insurance-based vs. fee-for-service dental practices

    [21:05] Ryan’s advice on tracking and retargeting big-ticket dental services

    [24:02] How to set up conversion tracking on your website

    [28:08] The importance of making sure online scheduling is set up properly

    [31:18] How urging existing patients to schedule online frees up time for new patients

    [33:29] Ensuring your site is built to facilitate the highest conversion rate possible

    [39:12] The 3 components of a website set up to convert new patients

    [42:29] How Ryan thinks about using tech tools to capture leads on big-ticket services

    [44:06] How CMOShare builds out a focused ad campaign and measures its success

    [49:19] Why increasing your ad spend doesn’t necessarily lead to better results

    [51:36] How Ryan’s team determines the ad spend you need to reach your goals

    [53:06] Ryan’s advice on setting realistic new patient goals to reach capacity

    [56:45] What to look at when your new patient growth stalls

    [58:49] How to interview a marketing company for fit with your dental practice

    Connect with Ryan Gross

    CMOShare

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

  • You don’t know what you don’t know.

    And if you sign legal documents for a dental practice sale without the help of an experienced lawyer, you may be acting against your own best interests.

    So, what is a dental attorney looking for in the fine print that you might miss?

    Cecilia Chen is an attorney who specializes in dental practice transitions. She started her own firm in 2009 and has been focused on the dental niche since 2011.

    On this episode of The Dental Boardroom, Cecilia joins host Drew Phillips to explain how setting up a trust early on makes the sale of a practice much easier should the doctor pass away unexpectedly.

    Cecilia shares her experience helping dentists sell their practice to a dental service organization and offers advice on what terms to pay attention to if you’re negotiating with a DSO.

    Listen in for insight on dealing with patient credits and prepaid treatment plans in a dental transition and learn how to ensure that the legal documents for a practice sale align with your interests.

    Topics Covered

    [0:40] Cecilia’s background as an attorney and how she got into the dental transition niche

    [2:23] Why it’s crucial to have a plan in place for transitioning a dental practice should the doctor pass away unexpectedly

    [5:40] What families can do to mitigate revenue decline while a dental practice is in probate

    [7:54] How to choose the best person to manage and sell your practice after you pass away (and why it might not be your spouse)

    [10:37] Why Cecilia recommends setting up a trust for your practice as part of the post-close process

    [12:08] The challenges families face in the deal process when a doctor has passed away

    [16:32] Cecilia’s experience helping doctors sell a dental practice to a DSO

    [20:09] What terms a doctor should pay attention to if they’re considering a sale to a DSO

    [24:34] How doctors can negotiate with DSOs to have a say in important decisions post-sale, i.e.: staffing

    [28:07] What differentiates private vs. DSO transactions in the pre-LOI stage

    [34:39] How to make sure legal documents align with what’s promised in a DSO transaction

    [36:46] The danger in overlooking patient credits in a dental practice sale

    [40:50] Cecilia’s take on why buyers should honor patient credits—even if they inherited them unknowingly

    [43:12] How Cecilia thinks about transferring prepaid treatment plans to the buyer of a dental practice

    [48:52] When and how to address a seller’s preference to continue working in a practice after it’s sold

    [51:30] Cecilia’s advice on approaching the opportunity to buy or sell a dental practice with optimism but doing the work to protect yourself

    Connect with Cecilia Chen

    The Law Offices of Cecilia Chen

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

  • You’ve got to be pretty smart to be a dentist.

    You went to college, excelled in a difficult major like biochemistry, physics or molecular biology and made it through dental school.

    But then you were thrown out into the real world, where it takes more than clinical mastery to run a successful practice.

    And even the smartest doctors make dumb mistakes when it comes to managing their business.

    Dr. Richard Madow is Cofounder of The Madow Center for Dental Practice Success, a consulting practice that helps dentists achieve success and happiness in their practice through truly personalized hands-on coaching.

    Having been named a leader in dental consulting by Dentistry Today for many years running, Dr. Madow’s publications, articles and blogs are some of the most popular in the dental profession, reaching over 100,000 practices across the world.

    On this episode of The Dental Boardroom, Dr. Madow joins host Wes Read to share five dumb mistakes smart dentists make, beginning with focusing too much on new patients—while ignoring existing ones.

    Dr. Madow explains why it’s a mistake to depend on new equipment to bring in new patients and describes how dentists get distracted by other ventures and lose focus on what brings in revenue.

    Listen in for insight on the value of properly training your front desk employees and learn Dr. Madow’s five tips for turning your staff into a cohesive team that truly cares for the patient.

    Topics Covered

    [3:59] How Dr. Madow’s personal experience inspired his list of ‘dumb things smart dentists do’

    [6:00] The problem with focusing too much on new patients while ignoring existing ones

    [9:16] How existing patients can be just as clinically rich as new ones—and even more primed

    [12:06] Why it’s a mistake to depend on new equipment to bring in new patients

    [16:52] How dentists get distracted by other ventures and lose focus on what brings them revenue

    [20:03] Why it’s crucial to provide proper training to team members at the front desk

    [23:46] Dr. Madow’s 2 quick tips to dramatically improve your team’s phone skills and double your number of new patients

    [30:26] The importance of dental practice operations vs. leadership and communication

    [32:14] Dr. Madow’s 5 tips for building a true team rather than just having a staff

    [40:01] The power of a leader who shows up with consistent optimism and energy (even when there’s conflict on the team)

    Connect with Dr. Richard Madow 

    The Madow Center for Dental Practice Success

    The Dental Practice Fixers Podcast

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Practice Orbit on Instagram

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

    Practice CFO

    Practice CFO on Instagram

    Practice CFO on Facebook

  • We’ve seen a consistent trend toward consolidation in the dental space for the last 15 years. But coming out of the pandemic, the DSO marketplace is changing.

    And if you’re thinking about selling your practice to a Dental Service Organization, it’s useful to understand the different deal structures available to you.

    So, how are DSO deal structures evolving in a post-COVID world? And how can a dental lawyer help choose the option that’s right for you?

    Dean Gould serves as Senior Attorney at Dykema, where he specializes in dental law and the DSO transaction space.

    On this episode of the podcast, Dean joins host Drew Phillips to explain why DSOs are moving toward joint venture deals and how the site-level equity structure prioritizes income replacement and encourages organic growth.

    Dean discusses the benefit of building a team of legal and financial advisors before you sell to private equity and describes how a dental lawyer can help structure a win-win scenario for you and the DSO at the LOI stage, giving you clarity and confidence prior to the resource-heavy due diligence process.

    Listen in for Dean’s predictions around the success of doctor-centric DSOs and learn how to choose a deal structure that fits your risk tolerance and benefits you and your dental practice for the long term.

    Topics Covered

    [3:54] What’s behind the trend to JV (also known as site-level equity) deals in the DSO space

    [8:35] How different DSO ownership structures play out when a doctor exits the business

    [13:50] The risk/reward profile of site-level equity deals vs. ownership at the holding company level

    [18:40] How nuanced the terms can get around participating in recapitalization events

    [22:08] How DSOs are incentivizing doctors to work past their 3- or 5-year workback agreements

    [24:45] How doctors can take care of younger associates in negotiations with DSOs

    [27:30] What DSOs are doing to prioritize income replacement and encourage organic growth

    [31:11] How dental lawyers can help you with term sheets, LOIs, purchase agreements, new employment agreements, equity documents and lease arrangements

    [35:36] Why private equity companies are growing real estate portfolios alongside their dental holdings

    [37:17] Why Dean suggests getting your documents in order and building a team of legal and financial advisors before you sell to a DSO

    [41:24] How a dental lawyer can help structure a win-win scenario for you and the DSO at the LOI stage, giving you clarity and confidence prior to the resource-heavy due diligence process

    [45:29] Dean’s predictions around the evolution of specialty play platforms and the success of doctor-centric DSOs

    [49:38] How to register for Dykema’s industry-leading DSO conference in Denver this July

    Connect with Dean Gould 

    Dykema

    Dean on LinkedIn

    Email [email protected]

    Connect with Wes Read, Matt Odgers & Drew Phillips

    Practice Orbit

    Email [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

    Practice CFO