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Olympic silver medalist, current world leader, and American outdoor record holder in women’s pole vault — Sandi Morris brings a powerful close to Season 1 of The Boundless Podcast.
In this episode, Sandi sits down with Dr. Ferrin Peterson, a professional jockey, veterinarian, and former pole vaulter herself. The two dive into the mindset it takes to stay at the top, bouncing back from injury, and what it really means to bet on yourself — again and again.
Now training at the University of Louisville, Sandi has her eyes set on the world record and LA 2028. Her story is one of resilience, reinvention, and relentless pursuit of greatness.
🎧 Tune in to hear from this decorated and determined pole vaulter — and get inspired to break your own limits.
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This weeks episode is our first Boundless Student episode, tune in to hear one of the many paths into horse racing. From owning a horse as a kid, graduating from UK, creating her own unique job description, and eventually standing in the winner’s circle of the KY Oaks and Derby — Katelyn Morgan is a powerful reminder of the opportunities this industry provides!
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Saddle up for an unforgettable ride with 3-time Hall of Famer Sandy Hawley—a legend who helped shape the golden age of horse racing. From the pivotal mentorship of Canada’s greatest horseman to blazing trails on tracks across the globe, Sandy shares the highs, the hurdles, and the heart behind his historic career.
🌟 Hear what it was like riding beside icons and breaking barriers in Canada, the U.S., and beyond. This is one for the books.
🔗 Tune in now — wherever you get your podcasts. #TheBoundlessPodcast #SandyHawley #HorseRacingLegends #HallOfFameRider #EquestrianExcellence #BehindTheReins
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Jimmy Lovatt grew up in Australia with a deep curiosity for horses and turned that passion into a global pursuit. After traveling the world to immerse himself in the Thoroughbred breeding industry, he earned a coveted role as stallion manager at Godolphin—one of the most prestigious breeding farms on the planet. From flying alongside prized stallions to celebrating victories in the Kentucky Derby, Oaks, and Dubai World Cup, Jimmy’s seen the highs of elite racing up close. But what fuels him most isn’t the trophies—it’s mentoring the next generation of horsemen and watching young grooms take pride in their work. Because at the heart of it all is a bond that can’t be explained—only experienced.
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In this episode of Boundless, we meet Bee Buck—a powerhouse behind the lens and a passionate storyteller of the racetrack. A freelance photographer who’s captured six Kentucky Derbies and two Breeders’ Cups by age 38, Bee brings a gritty, detailed eye to some of the sport’s most iconic moments. Beyond the camera, she also works in a pediatric unit, proving that dual careers are not only possible, but powerful. Bee shows us what horse racing feels like through her lens—and reminds aspiring photographers that there’s always “room on the rail.”
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On this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Dana Zook — retired jockey and current foreman for top trainer Mike Maker. Dana shares how he got his first ride for just a dollar with trainer Dr. Gregory, what it was like to beat some of the greatest jockeys of all time, and how his career evolved into managing racehorses at the highest level. An inspiring ride through grit, growth, and the relentless love of the game. 🐎✨ #TheBoundlessPodcast #FerrinPeterson #DanaZook #JockeyLife #HorseRacing #MikeMaker #FromSaddleToStable #BehindTheScenes #Equestrian #Horses #Jockey
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🎙️ In this captivating episode of Boundless, Hall of Fame jockey Chris McCarron sits down with Dr. Ferrin Peterson to share the extraordinary journey behind one of horse racing’s most legendary careers. 🏆🐎
From being inspired by his older brother Gregg McCarron to becoming one of the all-time greats himself, Chris opens up about the moments that shaped him. He reflects on the strength it took to race and win in honor of his mother just days after her passing—a deeply emotional victory that exemplified his resilience.
Chris also dives into his historic Breeders’ Cup triumphs aboard Tiznow in 2000 and 2001, including the challenges of riding such a headstrong horse and the pride of winning during a time when America needed hope after 9/11.
But the conversation doesn’t stop there—Chris shares his thoughts on how the racing style has evolved over the years. He discusses how the straight-legged, high-seated style some jockeys use today creates unnecessary drag and wind resistance, offering insight into the nuances of technique and efficiency that separate the good from the great.
This episode is filled with heartfelt stories, expert advice, and behind-the-scenes perspectives that go far beyond the racetrack. Whether you’re a lifelong fan of racing or simply love hearing from those who have achieved greatness, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss.
Timestamps
00:09 Intro
00:43 Gregg McCarron - Brother and Mentor
03:20 Was it important to have the foundation as a hotwalker?
04:20 First Race
05:25 Beating Sandy Hawley’s record for most wins in a year
06:09 Were you self taught or did you have a mentor?
07:45 Were you a well rounded athlete? Family of athletes
08:40 Born with balance
10:10 Being in the horses center of gravity
11:05 The importance of getting along with a horse
12:07 Riding the Mid-Atlantic Circuit - Establishing trust with 5-10 minute warmup
17:28 Tiznow has a mind of his own!
23:25 “Don’t be surprised if you don’t see me hitting him coming down through the stretch.”
26:17 The Comeback King - Fitness and Balance
27:26 Winning the Travers Stakes in Honor of His Mother
35:20 Developing your mindset to thrive under pressure?
38:06 Aerodynamic Colors - Rhonda Allen 1987
40:20 The riding styles of Irad Ortiz Jr. & Tyler Gaffalione - “Straight legs down the stretch”
43:53 One of the few jockeys who tactically adapted their riding style
45:40 Southern California Jockey Colony - 12 Hall of Famers
47:21 1980-81 Winning Streaks
49:20 Competitive up until the last race
50:35 Retirement - Injuries
53:55 Came Home - Final Race
55:18 Doing the math on horses mounted: over 50,000 legs over a horses back
55:53 Advice to younger self
59:14 Riding a horse well past the finish line
1:00:25 What advice would you give to a young rider starting their career?
1:03:33 Next Episode: Dana Zook
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After facing the unimaginable loss of both her sons—Will in a tragic car accident in Hawaii and her eldest to addiction—Susan Naylor turned her grief into a powerful force for good. Inspired by Will’s incredible heart for people, she founded the Will Smith Foundation, which has since supported 68 organizations dedicated to improving the lives of children in Texas, Hawaii, and Africa.
Beyond her philanthropic work, Susan is also a passionate racehorse owner and breeder, with multiple stakes winners competing at the highest levels, including the Breeders’ Cup. In this deeply moving episode of Boundless, Susan shares how she transformed loss into legacy, the impact of the Foundation, and her love for the sport of kings.
Join us for an inspiring conversation about resilience, purpose, and the boundless ways we can turn tragedy into triumph. 🎧✨
Timestamps:
00:38 How do people perceive you?
02:02 “Everyone is jealous of what you’ve got, not how you got it.”
03:17 Introduction to riding
04:08 The Will Smith Foundation - Will and Charlies Deaths
05:44 A turn of events and what they lead to
08:39 Your biggest influence
10:20 Generosity and fundraising - Athleticism
11:10 At one of your lowest years you started giving back more
12:35 Carrying on Legacy
13:04 Surgery Clinic - Leeu Naylor Medical Building
15:19 Leeu Origin
16:18 Will notices the needs of African kids - The foundations work
18:00 Why did you choose to put your dogs name on the surgery center?
20:00 Making the chose to put a pet down and Ferrins experience as a Veterinarian
22:37 Heart for horses
24:33 Developing horsemanship
25:18 Debbie Ward
25:45 Ferrin traveling abroad in Veterinarian school to learn from the best and making it work financially
28:59 “Andthewinneris” When a young horses lightbulb turns on
31:37 Manny Wah
33:24 Treating horses well and giving them breaks when they need it
34:06 Where does the name Safari North come from?
34:45 if you could go back and talk to your younger self what advice would you give?
37:18 Next Episode
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With 8,803 wins, nine Triple Crown victories, and a reputation as one of the greatest jockeys in history, Pat Day’s career is nothing short of legendary.
But to him, those accolades aren’t his greatest achievement. In this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with the Hall of Famer to uncover the mindset, faith, and resilience that shaped his journey. From the lessons horse racing taught him to the impact of mentorship and the choices that defined his path, Pat shares wisdom gained from a lifetime in the saddle.
Tune in for an inspiring conversation with one of racing’s most patient and purposeful riders. 🎙🐎
#TheBoundlessPodcast #PatDay #JockeyLife #HorseRacing
Timestamps
00:00 intro
01:00 What first sparked your interest in horse racing?
01:50 Riverside thoroughbred farm - Gene Cummings
05:05 First Win on Forblunged
07:16 What set you apart from other riders?
09:18 How did you learn to manage the highs and lows?
10:58 Leading rider in North America - Last possible races
12:40 Party Lifestyle
14:40 Coming to Christ - Jimmy Swagert
20:20 Telling Sheila he’s a Christian
25:13 Sheila Day - Marriage, Support on the track
28:40 How did you keep your standard high?
30:55 22% Win record means 78% loss record - bouncing back
31:43 Emotional and Mental Challenges - Dangerous sport
33:41 Racing several consecutive seconds in the Kentucky Derby before winning
34:16 49er 1988 Derby
37:30 Easy Goer 1989 Derby
40:05 Before Christ I was an arrogant winner and a terrible loser
41:43 Summer Squall
42:45 Offered Unbridled and lost
46:47 The Wall and the sound barrier throwing his horse off
49:30 3 most meaningful races in his career
58:10 Kentucky Derby with LIL E TEE
59:13 Mentoring other jockeys - leading by example
01:02:45 Turning down a stake mount for a young jockey with an opportunity
01:05:00 What advice would you give to someone just starting their career?
01:06:45 Ferrin is the hardest working jockey Pat Knows
01:08:25 Next Episode: Susan Naylor
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At 70 years old, Perry Ouzts isn’t just defying the odds—he’s rewriting them. With an incredible 53,419 races and 7,487 wins under his belt, Perry has been a force in the saddle since 1973. Known as the “Blue Collar Jockey,” he’s built his legacy on consistency, determination, and an unshakable love for the sport.
In this episode of Boundless, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Perry to talk about his 50+ year career, what keeps him riding after all these years, and the mindset that has made him one of the most enduring jockeys in history. From the toughest challenges to the greatest victories, Perry’s story is one of resilience, passion, and the relentless pursuit of doing what he loves.
🎧 Tune in for an inspiring conversation with a true racing legend!
Instagram: @Ferrinpeterson
Twitter: @Ferrinpeterson
https://www.ferrinpeterson.com/the-boundless-podcast
#BoundlessPodcast #PerryOuzts #BlueCollarJockey #RacingLegend #NeverTooOld #HorseRacing
Timestamps:
00:33 Current Stats
00:49 What drew you to horse racing
01:30 The “Fires Clan” - Earlie Fires
02:40 First win
03:47 The year 1973
04:25 Did you ever consider another career?
05:50 Longevity as a jockey
06:18 Advice for younger Perry - Finances
07:58 Whats the longest time you’ve had to take off the track?
09:25 How do you maintain your mental state during time off?
09:40 Did anyone mentor you or inspire you in your career?
10:42 You don’t claim foul, why is that?
12:10 You breeze horses in the early morning and dead of winter still, why?
13:16 Breezing for his wife - Toni Ouzts
15:16 Tell me about your long, loyal relationship with Larry Smith
17:16 Doing your job exceptionally well because you love to win
18:00 Pat Day and losing the feeling of victory
18:40 Do you have a goal for this final year of racing?
19:20 You rode with many of the greats, what set them apart?
20:45 The Blue Collar Jockey - I’d ride anything
21:53 Tell me about your loyal relationship with agent James Fowler
24:30 Do you have a pre-race routine?
28:10 If you’re intimidated or scared the horse knows
28:25 What parts of your life outside the track keep you balanced?
28:55 You’ve worked hard in your career, did you enjoy the journey along the way?
30:42 Facing Fear Pole Vaulting - Ferrin
31:06 What advice would you give someone starting their career?
32:42 “Ain’t gonna lose no sleep over it” He doesn’t care what people think of him
34:45 Being leading rider puts a target on your back
36:39 Where does the nickname “Iron Man” come from?
38:39 Motorcycle crash in the AM, 9 races in the PM
40:59 3 sick days in 50 years
44:41 Winning a stakes race at 70 and the struggle of getting mounts as a 70 year old
46:23 Horses keep you humble, you’re only as good as the horse you ride
49:13 Getting the bug back at 70
50:00 Making weight and having the same diet all 50 years
52:00 Riding every horse to win regardless of the talent
52:39 A moment form our next episode with Pat Day
53:13 AMWager Sponsorship
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From breaking barriers as the first female jockey to ride in the Preakness to becoming a respected figure in horse racing, Patricia Cooksey’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. 🏇✨ In this episode, professional jockey Ferrin Peterson sits down with Cooksey to discuss her biggest challenges, Kentucky Derby experience, and the mindset that set her apart on the track. Now in a leadership role at the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission , she shares wisdom for the next generation and reflects on the greatest gifts racing has given her.
Tune in for an inspiring conversation about resilience, passion, and the boundless possibilities in the sport we love! 🎧
This is a must-watch episode for horse racing fans and sports enthusiasts alike! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more inspiring interviews. 📌 Follow Ferrin Peterson for more updates: [www.instagram.com/ferrin_peterson] 🎥 Subscribe for exclusive interviews & racing content: [www.youtube.com/@ferrinpetersonKY]
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:36 What drew you to horse racing?
01:45 Early Career Challenges
03:10 Riding under a more masculine name
05:37 Still not many female riders today
06:51 Taken off horses because of gender
07:30 Strength vs Finesses
08:19 Wellness and Fitness
11:39 Jockey colony in her prime
12:10 Female jockey quarters
14:26 Pat Day
15:36 Riding style
16:25 Becoming one with a horse
16:59 Learning different horses
18:00 She’d ride anything
18:44 Horses you dont get along with
19:45 Career sacrifices
20:41 Pre-race routine
22:07 Protected during fall
23:35 Venezia Award
25:10 Taking care of the grooms and trainers
26:34 Hollywood Prevue Chris McCaron
22:59 2nd female in Kentucky Debry
28:19 Don Brumfield - The Wall
30:40 Advice for people starting their career
31:38 Kentucky horse racing commission
33:47 Whip rules, helmets and vests
36:07 what has horse racing taught you about yourself
37:15 Horse provide opportunity
38:03 Joy in life
39:08 Horse racing industry in Kentucky
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Hall of Fame jockey Steve Cauthen sits down with jockey and veterinarian Ferrin Peterson for an unforgettable interview about his legendary career in horse racing. From winning the U.S. Triple Crown at just 18 years old to making history as the only jockey to win both the Kentucky Derby and Epsom Derby, Steve shares the highs and challenges of his journey.
Discover how Steve clinched the English Fillies Triple Crown, earned the title of Sports Illustrated's 'Sportsman of the Year' over icons Muhammad Ali and Reggie Jackson, and became one of the most celebrated athletes in horse racing history.
This is a must-watch episode for horse racing fans and sports enthusiasts alike! Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more inspiring interviews.
📌 Follow Ferrin Peterson for more updates: [www.instagram.com/ferrin_peterson]
🎥 Subscribe for exclusive interviews & racing content: [www.youtube.com/@ferrinpetersonKY]
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Timestamps:
0:00:00:00 Intro
0:00:53:18 Introduction to horse racing - Tex Cauthen
0:06:55:00 Inspiration - Braulio Baeza
0:09:11:22 Jockey License - Keene Daingerfield
0:10:44:16 Early Career - First Races
0:14:19:19 Losing the bug allowance - Triple Crown Mount
0:14:47:00 First Serious Injury - 487 wins in 1 year
0:15:50:00 Affirmed origin
0:19:35:12 Triple Crown mount Affirmed
0:20:30:00 Affirmed Kentucky Derby Win
0:21:37:08 Louis and Patrice Wolfson - Affirmed owners
0:22:17:06 Affirmed & Alydar Preakness
0:23:31:01 Affirmed Belmont
0:25:20:17 English Fillies Triple Crown - Oh So Sharp
0:28:30:00 Riding Approach - "Just another race"
0:29:28:20 Not your typical teenage success story
0:30:34:15 The harder you work the luckier you get
0:32:24:12 "The Kid" - Agent: Lenny Goodman
0:34:14:23 Beating Muhhamad Ali and Reggie Jackson for Sports Illustrated Sportsman of The Year
0:37:28:07 Hot in the press: 110 Race losing streak
0:42:42:04 Riding in Europe: Robert Sangster
0:44:53:11 Riding Style: Connection to hands and thinking like a horse
0:47:08:12 Horse Connection
0:50:03:17 Flow State with a horse
0:52:01:01 Affirmed personality: Horses know when they win
0:52:53:23 US Riding Style in Europe
0:54:53:23 Life after retirement
0:56:59:14 Advice to younger self
0:58:56:15 Advice for someone starting their career
1:00:58:07 Next Episode: Patti Cooksey
#SteveCauthen #FerrinPeterson #HorseRacing #TripleCrown #KentuckyDerby #EpsomDerby #SportsmanOfTheYear #Sportsillustrated
