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In this episode, screenwriter and 2016 Black List honoree Liz Hannah shares the story behind her acclaimed debut film, The Post. Liz reveals how reading TheWashington Post Publisher Katherine Graham’s memoir years prior sparked the inspiration for the screenplay—and how, from the start, she imagined the iconic role of Graham being played by none other than Meryl Streep. Hosts Franklin and Kate dive into Liz's creative process, discussing her approach to writing across genres, exploring the nuanced "gray area of mental health" on screen, her work on the rom-com Long Shot, and much more. Liz’s recent work on the Kate Winslet-led film Lee is a great reason to listen back to this excellent 2020 conversation.
Originally published in 2020. Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+The Post: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_post
+Long Shot: https://www.lionsgate.com/movies/long-shot
+Mindhunter: https://www.netflix.com/title/80114855
+All the Bright Places: https://www.netflix.com/title/80208802
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[REPRISE] From science major to punk rock band member to comedy writer, he is now the co-creator of multiple popular television shows, a producer, screenwriter, and film director. Alan Yang joins the show to talk about his creative journey to Parks and Recreation (an experience he cherishes for the incredible education it gave him) and beyond. He also dives deep on his developing a character-based approach to comedy, directing his film Tigertail, and some of his creative influences. Plus: the reason he thanked white guys in an awards speech.
This conversation took place in 2020. Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+Tigertail: https://www.netflix.com/title/80202958
+Little America: https://deadline.com/2018/06/apple-little-america-immigrant-anthology-series-the-big-sick-writers-lee-eisenberg-alan-yang-1202413632/
+Master of None: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/master_of_none/s01
+Parks and Recreation: https://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation
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[Encore episode] Russian Doll co-creator Leslye Headland joins Kate and Franklin for a wide, thoughtful take on all the things that excite her about movies and storytelling (Headland is also a playwright). She reflects on the origins of her love of film, including the many things her parents let her stay up to watch, or actors and movies they introduced her to. On the Kubrick film that inspired her to become a filmaker, she says: "I watched it almost every day. I just couldn't get enough of it. ...And I just thought, somehow I'm going to do this. Somehow I'm going to make this happen for myself. I don't know how but I'm going to do it." Plus: what it was like writing for the quirky FX drama Terriers, challenging the overwhelming white maleness of the cinematic canon (think: The Graduate, Taxi Driver) and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com. This episode was originally published behind a paywall in 2020.
Mentions:
+Russian Doll: https://www.netflix.com/title/80211627
+The Shining: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/shining
+Terriers: https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/terriers
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With what feels like a very Bowen Yang autumn, we revisit this great convo he had with Franklin and Kate. Among the topics: early comedic discoveries, including SNL and a movie that made him fall in love with the medium. Plus: his Canadian upbringing, his academic vs. extracurriculars at NYU, the real world consequences of political comedy, and so much more. And if you didn't catch his profile in the Sept 23rd issue of the New Yorker, check it out. (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/23/bowen-yang-profile-comedy)
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation is from late 2020. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+ Las Culturistas podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lasculturistas/?hl=en
+Saturday Night Live: https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live
+Mean Girls: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mean_girls
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[Encore] Academy Award winner Akiva Goldsman (A Beautiful Mind, I, Robot, The Da Vinci Code screenplay, multiple Star Trek and Batman scripts, and more) joins Franklin and Kate to talk about his beginnings in Brooklyn, how his early family life influenced his writing career, and his memories of Joel Schumacher on the late 90s Batman films. Plus, the writing teachers he studied with at NYU (including Russell Banks, Margaret Atwood, E.L. Doctorow) and much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2021. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+A Beautiful Mind: http://rottentomatoes.com/m/beautiful_mind
+Mr. and Mrs. Smith: http://rottentomatoes.com/m/mr_and_mrs_smith
+Batman & Robin: http://rottentomatoes.com/m/1077027_batman_and_robin
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[Encore] Roxane Gay, NYT bestselling author and columnist, talks to Franklin and Kate about her time writing Marvel comic books, representations of fat characters in media, her love for the Fast and Furious franchise, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2020. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+Roxane Gay on writing for Marvel: https://time.com/4866569/roxane-gay-marvel-lumberjanes/
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[Encore] There's one guarantee about having, or listening to, a conversation with Seth Rogen. Laughter will ensue. This episode is no exception. Among the topics he covers with Franklin and Kate: the legacy of Freaks and Geeks, his writing process with longtime collaborator Evan Goldberg, and becoming one of Hollywood’s leading men. He also shares more about his advocacy for cannabis and Alzheimer’s prevention, and his very cool pottery making.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2020. To llearn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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Freaks and Geeks: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/freaks_and_geeks Houseplant: https://www.houseplant.com Hilarity for Charity: https://wearehfc.org -
Welcome to the ultimate cinephile's salon, where our co-hosts and two dear friends talk movies of all stripes, paired with some rich personal stories. Open up your "to watch" list and settle in. Franklin and Kate are joined by fellow film lovers Lauren Brown and Boris Khentov. The crew reflects on the films that grounded their childhoods, helped them grieve, and brought great joy to their lives during the first year of the pandemic (This conversation took place in 2020).
Thank you for joining us this season! To stay connected with us and learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
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This week, writer and director Lee Isaac Chung joins Kate and Franklin to talk about the trip to Rwanda that changed his filmmaking trajectory, his deep admiration for Charlie Chaplin and Wong Kar-wai, the making of his film and 2020 Sundance festival winner, Minari, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2020. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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Minari: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/minari -
Kate sits down with the legendary filmmaker Chris Columbus to talk about his beginnings as a screenwriter, directing beloved family films like Home Alone and Mrs. Doubtfire, collaborating with Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell in The Christmas Chronicles 2, and more behind-the-scenes stories.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation first took place in 2020. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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This week, Tony-nominated actor Andrew Rannells joins Franklin and Kate to talk about his beginnings in children's theatre in Nebraska, Broadway and The Book of Mormon, working alongside Meryl Streep in the forthcoming Netflix film, The Prom, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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This week, two-time Academy Award-nominated filmmaker Kirby Dick joins Kate and Franklin to talk why he “doesn’t love movies,” how he thinks about the concept of truth, the #MeToo movement and his documentary, On The Record (co-directed by Amy Ziering, HBO Max), and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2021. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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British screenwriter and playwright Jack Thorne joins Kate and Franklin to talk about bringing Harry Potter and The Cursed Child to the stage, his advocacy for fuller disability narratives on screen, season two of His Dark Materials, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2020. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
His Dark Materials: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/his_dark_materials Enola Homes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/enola_holmes Harry Potter and the Cursed Child: https://www.harrypottertheplay.com/uk/# CripTales: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/criptales/s01 Jack Thorne’s Adaptation of A Christmas Carol Will Stream Live From The Old Vic: https://www.playbill.com/article/jack-thornes-adaptation-of-a-christmas-carol-will-stream-live-from-the-old-vic -
As much watching, reading and listening time as we all had during the first year of the pandemic, you probably missed something great. Rewind your mind and pick up some gems from the pros. Franklin and Kate talk to each other about the things they loved in 2020. From Animal Crossing and Sarah Cooper's comedy special, to Ted Lasso and Michaela Coel's I May Destroy You, you'll have some new gems to add to your ongoing list. See the show notes for more details!
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in late 2020. Learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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Animal Crossing: https://animal-crossing.com 40-Year-Old Version: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_forty_year_old_versionInside Out by Demi Moore: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/inside-out-demi-moore?variant=32131129442338 It by Stephen King: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/830502.It Caste by Isabel Wilkerson: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/653196/caste-oprahs-book-club-by-isabel-wilkerson/ Sarah Cooper: https://sarahcpr.com Ted Lasso: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/ted_lasso I May Destroy You: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/i_may_destroy_you You Must Remember This Podcast: http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.comKarina Longworth on The Black List Podcast: https://luminarypodcasts.com/listen/ninth-planet-audio-&-the-black-list/the-black-list-podcast/karina-longworth/ccc9d152-7947-48dc-bab8-871300e0c72a -
This one's very special and very spooky. Kate talks to Barbara Crampton, BJ Colangelo, and Gigi Saul Gurerro about their lives in the horror community, what they're working on, what types of stories they'd like to see told about women in horror, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation from 2020 is still a banger. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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Barbara Crampton: https://twitter.com/barbaracrampton BJ Colangelo: https://twitter.com/bjcolangelo Gigi Saul Gurerro: https://twitter.com/HorrorGuerrero -
Friend of The Black List director Radha Blank joins Kate and Franklin to talk about her Sundance award-winning feature, The 40-Year-Old Version (Netflix), the leap from playwriting and rapping into filmmaking, growing up in an intentional arts community, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2021. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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The 40-Year-Old Version: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_forty_year_old_version -
The Bronx is in the building! This week, Franklin and Kate talk to Showtime's late-night hosts Desus Nice and The Kid Mero about their favorite films, the power of the Bodega Hive, their process as co-writers (shout out to Google Docs!) of their book, God-Level Knowledge Darts: Life Lessons from the Bronx, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation was recorded in 2020. To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
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+DESUS & MERO (Showtime): https://www.sho.com/desus-and-mero
+God-Level Knowledge Darts: Life Lessons from the Bronx, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/588771/god-level-knowledge-darts-by-desus-and-mero/
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As Saturday Night Live kicked off a new season, writer and comedian Bowen Yang joined Kate and Franklin to talk about his Canadian upbringing, why Mean Girls made him fall in love with filmmaking, the real world consequences of political comedy, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in 2021. Learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+Saturday Night Live: https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live
+Mean Girls: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mean_girls
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The Black List partnered with Hulu to launch the inaugural Latinx List. Around the time it happened, it only made sense that Franklin and Kate talk to two of the initiative's chief architects: Gloria Calderón Kellett (One Day at a Time) and Tanya Saracho (Vida). The showrunners talk about how their friendship nurtures creativity, cultivating the next generation of Latinx talent, and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation is from 2021. Kearn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+Deadline, The Black List, Latin Tracking Board, NALIP, And Untitled Latinx Project Unveil Latinx TV List: https://deadline.com/2020/06/the-black-list-latin-tracking-board-nalip-remezcla-untitled-latinx-project-unveil-inaugural-latinx-tv-list-diversity-inclusion-representation-1202972696/
+One Day at a Time: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/one_day_at_a_time
+Hollywood Reporter, ‘One Day at a Time,’ ‘Star Trek’ Sub for Returning Originals on CBS Fall Schedule: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/one-day-at-a-time-star-trek-sub-for-returning-originals-on-cbs-fall-schedule
+Vida: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/vida
+Variety, ‘Vida’ Creator Tanya Saracho Signs Overall Deal With UCP: https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/vida-tanya-saracho-overall-deal-ucp-1234740022/
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Ahead of the 72nd Primetime Emmy Awards, Kate and Franklin talk to nominees Billy Porter, Robin Thede and Ramy Youssef. The creators sound off on bringing their full selves to the screen, the true responsibility of the artist, the advice they'd give to their younger selves (or as Billy says: “a b*tch has to have boundaries!”), and so much more.
Questions? Comments? Criticism? Hit us up on social media at @theblcklst.
This conversation took place in To learn more about The Black List, visit www.blcklst.com.
Mentions:
+Pose: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/pose
+A Black Lady Sketch Show: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/a_black_lady_sketch_show
+Ramy: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/ramy
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