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  • In this episode, we sit down with Kenny Florian, former UFC fighter, broadcaster, and co-host of the Anik & Florian Podcast, to discuss his journey from martial arts to bitcoin. Kenny reflects on his fighting career, the lessons learned from competition, and how his mindset shifted when he discovered bitcoin in 2017. We explore the parallels between the discipline of fighting and the principles of bitcoin, misconceptions about volatility, and its role as a defensive asset. Kenny shares his thoughts on bitcoin’s potential as a global reserve, the growing race for adoption among nations, and the unique advantages it offers over traditional assets like real estate. We also discuss self-custody, the importance of educating newcomers, and how tools like Unchained’s bitcoin retirement calculator can help individuals better understand bitcoin's long term potential.

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    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:06 - Introducing Kenny Florian
    00:02:30 - From law school dreams to the UFC
    00:05:15 - What it's like training as a professional fighter
    00:07:35 - The mental and physical challenges of weight cutting
    00:10:17 - Discovering bitcoin: first impressions and early doubts
    00:13:55 - Going all in on bitcoin in 2017
    00:15:35 - Why bitcoin is the ultimate underdog
    00:18:12 - Bitcoin's defensive qualities and wealth preservation
    00:22:03 - Misconceptions about bitcoin: volatility and risk
    00:24:18 - Bitcoin vs. traditional investments like real estate
    00:26:50 - Lessons from Michael Saylor's bitcoin advocacy
    00:29:45 - Bitcoin's role in geopolitical and financial systems
    00:33:02 - The race for bitcoin adoption among nations
    00:36:12 - How bitcoin changes personal finance and wealth strategy
    00:40:02 - The importance of self-custody in bitcoin ownership
    00:42:15 - The power of bitcoin as a tool for individuals and nations
    00:45:25 - The future of bitcoin: 10 to 20 years from now
    00:48:05 - Advice for beginners: understanding bitcoin's potential
    00:50:50 - Reflections on bitcoin's journey and its role in global change

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  • In this episode, we sit down with George Selgin, Director Emeritus at the Cato Institute’s Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives, to explore his views on money, markets, and bitcoin’s role in the global economy. George shares his journey from studying marine biology to becoming a leading voice in monetary economics and discusses how definitions of money have evolved. We examine bitcoin’s classification as a synthetic commodity, its potential as a store of value, and whether it could ever replace the US dollar. George also analyzes the proposed bitcoin strategic reserve, highlighting its costs, risks, and implications for government debt.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:01:11 - Introducing George Selgin's background and career

    00:07:42 - Moving from Hong Kong to the University of Georgia

    00:09:50 - Defining money and its role in economics

    00:12:12 - Explaining why bitcoin doesn’t meet the definition of money

    00:13:31 - Defining the dollar and its place in the economy

    00:15:52 - Understanding gold’s history and modern role

    00:19:11 - Analyzing bitcoin as a synthetic commodity

    00:21:51 - Evaluating bitcoin as a store of value vs. medium of exchange

    00:24:52 - Discussing bitcoin’s long-term price potential

    00:29:21 - Examining markets, prices, and bitcoin’s future

    00:36:13 - Questioning if the US dollar could be replaced

    00:42:36 - Evaluating the bitcoin strategic reserve proposal

    00:49:11 - Breaking down the costs and risks of a bitcoin reserve

    00:55:00 - Closing thoughts and where to follow George Selgin

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  • In this episode, we recap the top 5 episodes of 2024 on The Bitcoin Frontier, reflecting on the show’s growth, standout moments, and what’s ahead in 2025. We’re joined by Jose, Director of Media Production at Unchained, to discuss the podcast’s journey, including hitting 1.5 million views and 17 years of watch time this year. We highlight key episodes featuring expert guests who tackled topics like bitcoin ETFs, mining, macroeconomic trends, health, science, AI, and the philosophical debates shaping bitcoin’s future. From bitcoin’s role as a reserve asset to its vulnerabilities and the risks of quantum threats, this countdown captures the most important conversations of the year while setting the stage for what’s next.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:14 - Jose, Director of Media Production

    3:07 - 2024 growth and podcast milestones

    5:25 - Unchained hits 1.5M views and 17 years watched in 2024

    11:22 - Honorable mention

    13:42 - Episode #5

    16:56 - Episode #4

    21:32 - Episode #3

    27:04 - Episode #2

    30:27 - Episode #1

    34:55 - 2025 podcast plans and bitcoin growth outlook

    37:55 - Is bitcoin just digital gold or the best form of money?

    43:30 - Bitcoin risks from fiat dominance to quantum threats

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Daniel Batten to explore the six megatrends shaping bitcoin this cycle, from sovereign wealth funds and pension funds entering the market to miners becoming net buyers instead of sellers. Daniel shares his take on bitcoin ETFs as a game-changer for traditional finance and the growing potential for national bitcoin reserves. We discuss whether this cycle will break the pattern of diminishing returns, why volatility isn’t the risk many think it is, and how bitcoin’s adoption could accelerate at unprecedented levels.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00:00 — Why sovereign wealth funds are the next big bitcoin adopters

    00:01:22 — The six megatrends shaping bitcoin this cycle

    00:05:06 — How pension funds are allocating to bitcoin

    00:11:42 — Why miners are buying, not selling, bitcoin this cycle

    00:15:19 — Will this cycle break bitcoin’s diminishing returns trend?

    00:27:33 — Blow-off tops vs. steady growth: what to expect this cycle

    00:30:47 — Why the bitcoin ETF success is just beginning

    00:35:14 — The rise of bitcoin strategic reserves among nations

    00:40:54 — Addressing the “too late for bitcoin” mindset

    00:49:57 — The biggest risks to bitcoin’s future

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Hunter Beast, a developer focused on making bitcoin quantum resistant. Hunter shares his journey from discovering bitcoin in 2017 to working on a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) aimed at securing the protocol against future quantum threats. We explore how quantum computers could compromise elliptic curve cryptography, why P2PK coins are at risk, how address reuse poses risks, and Hunter's proposed pay-to-quantum-resistant hash solution. He explains the challenges of implementing post-quantum cryptography, the trade-offs between security and efficiency, and the timeline for potential quantum threats. Hunter also discusses the importance of community collaboration on upgrades and how bitcoin can prepare for a secure future while maintaining its core values.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:02 - Meet Hunter: Bitcoin and quantum focus
    00:01:51 - Fixing money: Bitcoin's potential to fix the world
    00:03:06 - Real risks vs myths
    00:04:41 - Elliptic curve cryptography: Bitcoin’s security backbone
    00:06:08 - Why bitcoin matters: Grounding the digital world
    00:07:07 - Quantum risks: Shor's algorithm and private keys
    00:10:33 - Quantum threat: An existential risk to bitcoin
    00:11:44 - Resilience: Lessons from Carrington event
    00:12:57 - Quantum resistance
    00:14:26 - Hunter’s proposal: Pay-to-quantum-resistant hash
    00:17:04 - Public key risks: Old coins, mempool, reuse, taproot
    00:20:22 - Quantum solutions: SegWit v3 and new algorithms
    00:26:21 - Resistant addresses: Naming conventions and tips
    00:31:06 - Securing bitcoin with new cryptography
    00:34:06 - Signature challenges: Balancing security and block space
    00:37:07 - Future cryptography: Preparing for quantum security
    00:43:27 - Trade-offs of quantum-proof cryptography
    00:50:00 - Quantum risk timeline: Predictions and unknowns
    00:55:27 - Satoshi’s coins: Why not burn vulnerable addresses
    01:00:18 - Soft fork challenges: Consensus and activation risks
    01:03:10 - Closing thoughts: Hunter’s work and resources

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Junseth, a long-time bitcoiner and co-host of the legendary Bitcoin Uncensored podcast. Junseth shares how he got started in bitcoin, his views on the evolution of the bitcoin community, and his take on the cycles of bitcoin podcasts and companies. He provides insights into the rise of social engineering scams, his experience confronting phishing attackers, and the mentality behind young scammers. We also discuss the challenges of self-custody, the risks of bitcoin centralization, and the potential implications of a national bitcoin reserve. Junseth offers a unique perspective on the future of bitcoin, libertarian ideals, and the lessons learned from his years in the space.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00:00 – Introduction

    00:01:06 – How Junseth got involved in bitcoin

    00:04:42 – Libertarianism and bitcoin's evolution

    00:09:04 – Background of Junseth’s scammer calls

    00:15:21 – Why young scammers do what they do

    00:17:16 – Protecting yourself from phishing scams

    00:24:45 – Self-custody

    00:31:02 – Evolution of bitcoin podcasts

    00:36:22 – Michael Saylor’s infinite money glitch

    00:42:30 – Current bitcoin cycle and price movements

    00:46:46 – Reflections on bitcoin's rapid adoption

    00:51:16 – Bitcoin strategic reserve: pros and cons

    00:54:14 – Unique perspectives and risks to bitcoin

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Willy Woo, a leading on-chain analyst and bitcoin market expert. Willy provides insights into the current state of the market, highlighting how corporate and institutional players like MicroStrategy and BlackRock are shaping bitcoin’s adoption. He explains bitcoin’s role as a potential global reserve asset and its energy-based scarcity model, which sets it apart from traditional assets like gold. We discuss the impact of upcoming FASB accounting changes on companies holding bitcoin, the risks of centralization, and the sustainability of bitcoin’s four-year cycles. Willy also shares his thoughts on how bitcoin’s growth could reshape geopolitics and global monetary systems, offering a clear vision for a decentralized financial future.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    01:31 Current state of the bitcoin market

    03:02 Bitcoin dominance, altcoins, and institutional impact

    07:08 MicroStrategy and the future of ETFs

    10:37 FASB accounting and potential S&P 500 inclusion

    13:54 BlackRock’s role in legitimizing bitcoin

    16:54 Bitcoin as digital gold and its exponential growth

    22:15 Energy scarcity and bitcoin’s long-term viability

    28:11 Bitcoin’s potential as a global reserve asset

    38:25 Geopolitical implications of a bitcoin standard

    43:23 Where are we in the current bitcoin cycle?

    50:19 Bitcoin’s biggest risks and future challenges

    54:05 Optimism for bitcoin

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Dhruv Bansal, co-founder of Unchained, and Samson Mow, CEO of JAN3, for a friendly debate on whether bitcoin was invented or discovered. We examine how historical inventions and discoveries like mathematics and fire compare to bitcoin, explore the philosophical implications of digital scarcity, and discuss its relevance across civilizations. Dhruv and Samson share their insights on bitcoin as a living organism, potential challenges from quantum computing, and the evolution of its network over time. The conversation also touches on the future of money and mining in a spacefaring civilization, how energy markets intersect with bitcoin, and the practicality of sidechains for interplanetary use. Throughout, we question the boundaries of bitcoin’s definition, its adaptability, and its role as the ultimate form of energy money.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:43 Welcome to the debate: invented vs. discovered

    3:48 Definitions: what makes something invented or discovered?

    7:53 Analyzing historical examples: math, melodies, and fire

    12:03 Was bitcoin invented or discovered? Opening arguments

    20:25 The ship of theseus analogy for bitcoin’s evolution

    24:09 Addressing quantum computing and potential bitcoin changes

    30:58 Bitcoin as a living organism and its self-regulation

    33:19 Does digital scarcity truly exist across civilizations?

    39:09 Bitcoin’s impact on energy grids and global sustainability

    42:00 Mars colonization: should Martians adopt bitcoin or a sidechain?

    47:09 Decentralization vs. centralization of hash power in space

    52:50 Concluding thoughts: bitcoin’s universal role as energy money

    1:01:10 The biggest risk to bitcoin—aliens?

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Jack Kruse, a neurosurgeon with over 30 years of experience, to explore his transformative journey from centralized medicine to decentralized health and his discovery of bitcoin as a tool for freedom and time preservation. Jack discusses the flaws in traditional medicine, the significance of circadian biology, and why sunlight and sleep are critical for optimal health. He explains his perspective on bitcoin as a “time machine” and the parallels between decentralized money and biology. The conversation touches on the importance of self-custody, the role of technology in shaping health outcomes, and whether Americans should consider moving to El Salvador for greater personal freedom. Jack also shares insights on the challenges of population growth, the potential to extend human lifespan, and how bitcoiners can prioritize health to secure their future.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:06 Jack Kruse's background and medical journey

    3:32 Decentralized medicine: what it means

    9:20 Why centralized medicine is broken

    11:19 The importance of circadian biology

    18:25 Bitcoin and time: connecting decentralized money to health

    23:11 "Bitcoin is a time machine": explained

    33:53 How sunlight and darkness affect health

    37:10 The role of technology in health outcomes

    43:08 Living a healthier, longer life: practical advice

    49:47 El Salvador: should Americans move there?

    57:29 Is bitcoin a time machine for everyone? Victor’s story

    1:01:13 The case for decentralizing your life

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Joe Kelly, co-founder and CEO of Unchained, to discuss his journey from his first ‘aha’ moment with bitcoin to building a company that prioritizes long term bitcoin security and self-custody. Joe reflects on Unchained’s evolution into a bitcoin-only company, his personal donation to the University of Austin’s bitcoin endowment, and Unchained’s new bitcoin donor-advised fund product. We explore the critical importance of self-custody, why new bitcoiners should care about self-custody, the challenges and opportunities for global bitcoin adoption, and Unchained’s future roadmap. Joe also shares his thoughts on the risks and potential of AI, phishing threats in the digital space, and the balance between security and user experience in bitcoin financial services.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro
    1:18 ‘Aha’ moment, Dhruv’s influence
    4:19 Founding Unchained, long-term vision
    7:47 Bitcoin-only focus
    10:27 University of Austin donation
    13:18 Bitcoin donor-advised funds
    15:23 Beyond bitcoin: family, consciousness
    17:45 Favorite podcast
    20:23 Why self-custody matters
    26:01 Accelerating adoption
    28:52 Phishing threats
    32:20 Bitcoin ETFs
    35:41 AI, identity verification
    38:17 Unchained’s future
    40:03 Roadmap, sustainability
    41:30 Favorite products
    44:44 ECB bitcoin paper
    46:50 Contrarian views on money
    49:05 Bitcoin’s biggest risk
    50:44 Closing remarks

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Marty Bent, founder of TFTC, Managing Partner at Ten31 VC, and Director at Cathedra Bitcoin. Marty shares his journey, from starting his newsletter and TFTC podcast to recording at Barstool Sports and now recently being cited by the European Central Bank in an academic paper. We explore his take on the ECB's paper, bitcoin’s adoption speed, and the risks of mining centralization. Marty dives into vulnerabilities in bitcoin core, the future of mining, and Ten31’s unique approach to supporting bitcoin-only companies on a bitcoin standard. We also discuss the balance between clickbait and integrity in bitcoin media and AI's impact on content and media.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Introduction

    1:05 Starting Marty's newsletter and TFTC

    3:22 Expectations vs. reality: Marty's journey

    5:47 Recording at barstool sports and potential acquisition

    10:21 Talking about bitcoin with co-workers at the managed futures fund

    13:05 European central bank citing Marty's newsletter

    23:25 Vulnerabilities in bitcoin

    29:04 Mining centralization—is it a problem?

    40:30 Worst and best business models you've seen at Ten31

    47:26 What's the end goal for Ten31 portfolio companies?

    52:08 How will VC change after the monetization of bitcoin?

    58:23 How will media and AI evolve over the next decade?

    1:02:23 Hyperbitcoinization faster than we expect?

    1:08:00 Biggest risk for bitcoin?

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Dennis Porter, CEO and Co-Founder of the Satoshi Action Fund, for an in-depth look at bitcoin’s place in U.S. politics. Dennis opens with an overview of how each political party approaches bitcoin and discusses the importance of bipartisan support. He examines bitcoin's resonance with American values, its appeal across political lines, and how policies can balance innovation and openness with consumer protection. Dennis reflects on the role of single-issue bitcoin voters and the potential impact on future elections including the 2024 US presidential election. He also explores how states are beginning to adopt bitcoin-friendly policies and the importance of creating scalable templates for state-level adoption.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    1:09 Breaking down each party’s stance on bitcoin

    3:04 Bipartisan effort and why it matters for bitcoin

    5:39 Kamala Harris vs. biden on bitcoin

    7:04 Protecting consumers while supporting innovation

    8:32 Bitcoin’s inclusiveness and appeal to democrats

    9:36 Why bitcoin resonates with American values

    10:16 Importance of bipartisan support for bitcoin

    11:38 Working with both sides of the aisle

    17:17 Role of broken money in political division

    20:40 ECB’s stance on bitcoin holders

    23:14 Debunking the ECB paper

    26:16 Bitcoin’s potential as a bipartisan issue

    29:20 Single-issue bitcoin voters and future elections

    32:14 Bitcoin voters as a swing factor in elections

    36:43 Strategic bitcoin stockpile plan

    39:17 How bitcoin influences future elections

    41:17 Adoption of bitcoin-friendly policies at the state level

    47:15 Influence of presidential cycles vs. halvings on bitcoin cycles

    50:07 Creating template policies for state adoption

    53:02 Risk to bitcoin: if earth falls into the sun

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Pierre Rochard, VP of Research at Riot Platforms, and Bitstein, co-founder of the Nakamoto Institute, to discuss hyperbitcoinization and more. Pierre and Michael open by reflecting on its price history, historical cycles, and long-term outlook. They explore bitcoin’s progression onto the global stage, considering how central banks view it and where we are in the context of hyperbitcoinization. They address the critical balance between self-custody and bitcoin banks, including insights into the evolving role of custody solutions and associated risks. Discussing perspectives like those of Michael Saylor and Saifedean Ammous, they weigh in on bitcoin’s function as both an asset, a money, and the concept of bitcoin “yield.” The conversation covers MicroStrategy’s strategic approach to bitcoin and their perspective on the various models like S2F, power law, and Bitcoin24.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:17 - Reflections on bitcoin cycles

    3:21 - Long-term outlook

    5:12 - Bitcoin on global stage

    7:05 - Central banks’ view on bitcoin

    14:03 - Defining hyperbitcoinization

    17:05 - Self-custody vs. bitcoin banks

    25:16 - Future of bitcoin custody

    30:10 - Risks in custodial options

    35:38 - Saylor vs. Saifedean on bitcoin banking

    42:27 - Bitcoin yield vs. fiat yield

    50:02 - MicroStrategy’s strategy

    55:10 - Modeling bitcoin’s value

    1:02:31 - Fiat vs. bitcoin volatility

    1:04:15 - Challenging views in bitcoin community

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Chaitanya Jain (CJ), an MBA candidate at Harvard Business School and strategist at MicroStrategy, who worked closely with Michael Saylor on the recent open source Bitcoin24 model. CJ shares his experience talking about bitcoin at HBS, detailing efforts to distinguish it from broader crypto discussions. We explore Michael Saylor’s perspective on whether bitcoin is money or just another asset. CJ offers insights into building the Bitcoin24 model and MicroStrategy’s evolving custody strategy, including the future of bitcoin in banking and other companies adopting MicroStrategy’s bitcoin strategy. We also cover their acquisition strategy using equity and convertible notes, the constraints they face, and how to think about valuing MicroStrategy in relation to their NAV. Last, CJ discusses MicroStrategy's potential future S&P 500 inclusion, effective bitcoin advocacy techniques, and the most significant risks to bitcoin today.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00:00 Introduction and background

    00:03:23 Experience at HBS with bitcoin

    00:06:06 Efforts to differentiate bitcoin from crypto at HBS

    00:08:13 Bitcoin and crypto courses at HBS

    00:10:21 Michael Saylor’s view of bitcoin: money or asset?

    00:12:12 Catalysts for HBS interest in bitcoin

    00:14:06 Key takeaways from interacting with Michael Saylor

    00:18:25 Valuing bitcoin without cash flows

    00:20:36 Building the Bitcoin24 model with MicroStrategy

    00:24:24 MicroStrategy’s bitcoin custody strategy

    00:26:32 Future of bitcoin in banking

    00:30:55 Other companies following MicroStrategy’s bitcoin strategy

    00:38:21 MicroStrategy’s bitcoin acquisition strategy: equity and convertible notes

    00:46:24 Limits on equity issuances and convertible notes

    00:50:24 Common misunderstandings about MicroStrategy

    00:52:42 MicroStrategy’s inclusion in the S&P 500

    00:58:26 Bitcoin advocacy and persuasion techniques

    00:59:10 Biggest risks to bitcoin

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Luke Gromen to unpack the U.S. fiscal landscape, exploring the growing strain of true interest expense and why the world may be entering a liquidity acceleration phase. Luke highlights some of the most crowded and least crowded trades in the market today and explains why gold miners are taking on a new role, while commodity stocks resemble bonds. We also discuss the potential release valves of gold, oil, and bitcoin. Luke provides insights into the shifting dynamics of physical versus paper assets, the repricing of bonds and hard assets, and bitcoin’s potential place in central bank reserves. Additionally, we cover China’s latest economic moves, the ongoing global debt bubble, and the potential impact of the U.S. Presidential election.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 - Intro

    01:06 - The U.S. fiscal situation and 'true interest expense'

    02:49 - U.S. fiscal tightening and liquidity needs

    04:03 - 'America doesn’t get to do collectively stupid stuff with borrowed money forever'

    04:51 - What is money?

    07:13 - Most crowded and least crowded trades today

    08:39 - 'Gold miners are the new commodity stocks, commodity stocks are the new bonds'

    12:07 - The release valve: gold, oil, and maybe bitcoin

    14:21 - Bitcoin miners as the new gold miners?

    16:06 - The importance of physical versus paper assets

    20:10 - The accelerating repricing event in bonds and hard assets

    23:49 - How bitcoin and gold fit into the reserve asset narrative

    33:14 - Will central banks eventually hold bitcoin?

    35:00 - China’s aggressive stimulus and what it means for global markets

    39:00 - The global sovereign debt bubble and the U.S. deficit

    40:21 - U.S. Presidential election and fiscal largesse

    41:59 - Repricing of gold and bitcoin

    49:10 - What most bitcoiners disagree with Luke on

    50:24 - The biggest risks to bitcoin and gold

    55:00 - Outro and where to find more of Luke’s work

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  • In this episode, we sit down with James Check to tackle common misconceptions in bitcoin, from misunderstood on-chain metrics to the real impact of long-term holders. We break down key market indicators, discuss risks of audience capture, and explore whether bitcoin is set for slow, steady growth or another 80% drop. We also dive into the relevance of entity-adjusted metrics, the potential impact of ETFs, and how Checkmate optimizes bitcoin allocation strategies. Looking ahead, we speculate on bitcoin’s role in future portfolios, touch on large-scale gold buying, and even consider whether aliens might have their own version of bitcoin.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 Introduction

    01:40 What is one thing you think most people are wrong about?

    08:14 Misinterpreted on-chain metrics and long-term holders

    13:00 Key metrics to watch for market tops

    19:10 Protecting against audience capture in bitcoin narratives

    22:44 Slow grind up vs fast exponential growth?

    25:48 Will bitcoin fall another 80% at some point?

    29:25 Bitcoin was not a ZIRP phenomenon

    30:10 Optimizing DCA and portfolio allocations through cycles

    35:00 How accurate are “entity-adjusted” on-chain metrics?

    41:10 Do ETFs destroy the potential usefulness of on-chain analytics?

    46:35 Decades from now, how much bitcoin is in a typical portfolio?

    50:50 Who is buying gold in size now?

    56:50 Do aliens exist and did they discover their own bitcoin?

    1:02:50 Closing thoughts

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Troy Cross to examine the environmental impact of bitcoin mining and its potential role in stabilizing energy grids. Troy shares his journey into bitcoin and peer-to-peer systems, addressing early concerns about energy consumption and how his views have evolved. We explore key data from bitcoin miners on energy usage and discuss the challenges of gathering accurate information. Troy highlights bitcoin mining’s unique flexibility in reducing emissions and compares its energy impact to other technologies like AI. We also cover the political implications of bitcoin, potential risks, and the importance of effective branding for bitcoin’s future growth.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 Introduction

    01:40 The environmental impact of bitcoin mining

    04:28 How Troy got into bitcoin and peer-to-peer systems

    07:33 Early concerns about bitcoin’s energy consumption

    11:21 Bitcoin’s role in stabilizing energy grids

    14:53 Data from bitcoin miners on energy consumption

    18:47 Challenges in gathering bitcoin mining data

    21:25 Bitcoin mining’s flexibility and reduced emissions

    25:02 Halvings, miners, and price

    28:37 Bitcoin’s superpower: Flexible energy consumption

    32:12 Comparing bitcoin to AI in energy use

    34:44 The future of energy and bitcoin

    38:12 How bitcoin mining adapts to market conditions

    42:28 Political ramifications of bitcoin

    46:08 The biggest risk to bitcoin

    50:09 Bitcoin’s branding challenges

    54:12 Closing thoughts

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  • In this episode, we sit down with Rational Root to explore whether bitcoin is on the verge of entering a parabolic growth phase. We discuss key indicators, including on-chain data, market cycles, and global liquidity trends, to assess the current state of bitcoin and its potential for rapid price acceleration. Root breaks down the importance of short-term holder behavior, ETF flows, and the psychology of the market. We also consider external factors, such as macroeconomic conditions and regulatory developments, that could fuel or hinder bitcoin's next major move.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    01:40 Where are we in the 4 year cycle?

    04:55 Bitcoin goes sideways or down a majority of the time

    08:14 Cycles from the bottom

    13:03 On-chain value map

    21:21 Do ETFs change on-chain analytics?

    24:00 Psychology of a bitcoin market cycle

    26:23 Global liquidity catalyst

    30:14 Short-term holder supply

    34:38 Bitcoin ETF flows

    43:30 Bitcoin ETF cost basis

    45:55 Bitwise proof of reserves

    49:40 HODL Model update

    1:01:40 Closing thoughts

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  • In this episode, former FBI agent Ren McEachern breaks down financial crime and fraud in the digital age. We cover how criminals use different monetary tools for money laundering, whether the FBI can reverse wire transfers, and their work on the dark web. Ren explains asset seizures, including high-value items like yachts, and the unique challenges of seizing and liquidating bitcoin. We also discuss the FBI’s evolving stance on bitcoin, tracing crypto transactions, and using off-chain data to prevent fraud. Lastly, we tackle the potentially fraudulent NFT market, and Ren shares what he sees as the biggest risk to bitcoin today.

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    01:30 Introduction and Background

    06:00 Most common monetary tool used in money laundering?

    09:08 Can the FBI reverse wire transfers?

    12:48 FBI and the dark web

    15:12 Brazil banning X.com

    17:15 Seizing assets and chasing yachts

    21:55 Liquidating seized assets and yachts

    24:00 The difficulty of seizing bitcoin

    29:00 Government seizure of bitcoin and liquidation

    37:00 Trump’s strategic bitcoin stockpile

    40:00 The FBI's perspective on bitcoin

    50:10 Future of fraud with bitcoin and crypto?

    01:01:25 Is the NFT market just money laundering?

    01:04:30 Most commonly used crypto for fraud?

    01:08:13 Biggest risk to bitcoin?

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  • In this episode, Joe Consorti joins us to explore the impacts of trillion-dollar deficits on the fiscal landscape and what it means for bitcoin’s future. We start with a look at the current liquidity environment and how asset prices are responding, followed by a discussion on rate cuts and capital deployment strategies. Joe shares his outlook on bitcoin’s trajectory through 2025 and the central bank actions we should be keeping a close eye on. We then examine key models like the power law and stock-to-flow to understand how they relate to bitcoin’s growth. Joe also addresses whether excessive monetary and fiscal stimulus could harm bitcoin, and why crypto is in decline while bitcoin continues to thrive. Finally, we talk about the acceleration of exponential growth, before wrapping up with Joe’s thoughts on unpopular beliefs and the biggest risks facing bitcoin today.

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    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:30 Trillion-dollar deficits and the fiscal situation
    10:43 The liquidity spigot and asset prices
    17:21 Rate cuts and capital deployment
    25:35 Bitcoin's future and monitoring central bank actions
    30:35 Predicting bitcoin in 2025 and factors to watch
    37:12 The power law model vs. the stock-to-flow model
    40:05 Does too much monetary and fiscal stimulus harm bitcoin?
    46:50 The decline of crypto and the thriving of bitcoin
    51:00 Acceleration and exponential growth
    01:02:20 Unpopular beliefs and the biggest risks to bitcoin


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