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Today on TSFU Presents, we dive deeper into the 7M TikTok dance cult scandal, the main players including Miranda Derrick (aka Miranda Wilking) and her husband B-Dash... who was in another cult prior to this. Ash also explains how Krump is heavily involved in this story and how the dance style got so intertwined with Shinn and his brand.
Make sure to listen to part one first!
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-Audio Editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Research by Kristen Jones.
-Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh5WRGT8ch8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdKdqgW5G2ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGhKa6Y11TMhttps://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/7m-films-aka-shekinah-church-their-tik-tok-cult-ninja-sheep.69447/https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/7m-films-tiktok-dance-cult-allegations-miranda-wilking-james-derrick-1323200/https://meaww.com/shekinah-church-cult-claims-miranda-derrick-tiktoker-7-m-films-casehttps://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/7m-dancers-sue-alleging-robert-shinn-runs-cult-1234701158/https://www.the-sun.com/news/4933923/pastor-tiktok-cult-shekinah-miranda-derrick/https://culteducation.com/group/1371-shekinah-church.html?tmpl=component&print=1https://gomiblog.com/the-wilking-sisters-drama-is-the-mindless-popcorn-munching-event-you-need-right-now/https://deadline.com/2022/05/7m-films-hbo-max-campfire-nile-cappello-chrissy-teigen-1235021670/amp/https://www.thecut.com/2022/05/wilking-sisters-7m-allegations.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10632181/Family-claimed-TikTok-star-daughter-abducted-cult-slammed-PATHETIC.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate -
We hope you're thirsty for KNOWLEDGE this Thursday because we've got a new episode coming in hot, a day early! And we've got a surprise for you tomorrow too!
You might think of the Amish as quiet, quaint folks in buggies selling homemade stuff, but there's a lot more beneath the surface. Join us as Fallon tells Ash all about the secretive world of the Amish. From shocking abuses against women and children to the dark side of puppy mills - get ready for a wild rollercoaster of revelations that will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about Amish life.
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-Audio editing by Kim Shockley
-Research by Peggie Brott
-Sources:
To be or not to be Amish: Rumspringa by Tom ShachtmanSins of the Amish documentary, PeacockReflections and Memories of an Amish Misfit by Mary Byler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96RGRjyTTNI&t=1576shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taK2L6hRYPohttps://web-dvm.net/amish-are-among-the-worst-puppy-mill-offenders/https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/nashville/antioch-rescue-working-to-free-dogs-from-large-ohio-based-amish-puppy-mill/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15R3V8r3gR8&t=4186shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amishhttps://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/social-organization/government/?doing_wp_cron=1707810677.9785380363464355468750https://bailingoutbenji.com/https://www.humanesociety.org/sites/default/files/docs/HSUS_Horrible-Hundred-2023.pdfhttps://www.humanesociety.org/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQaCuINxvpUhttps://www.amishheritage.org/this-devastating-lawsuit-destroys-your-right-to-learn/https://www.amishheritage.org/this-is-what-happens-when-religion-outweighs-childrens-rights/https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/coverings/mennonites-forgiveness-sexual-abuse-coverings-plain-amish-lancaster-county/https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/coverings/mennonites-amish-sexual-abuse-plain-coverings-lancaster-whispering-hope-intervention/https://tarrant.tx.networkofcare.org/dv/news-article-detail.aspx?id=110710https://www.amishbaskets.com/blogs/blog/amish-shunning-ruleshttps://lancasteronline.com/news/local/heres-a-closer-look-into-whispering-hope-other-amish-and-plain-mental-health-facilities/article_db461afa-3fa2-11ea-9fa2-e329e664f8a9.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Ls34mDZpwhttps://www.themisfitamish.com/https://people.com/crime/sins-of-the-amish-inside-amish-sex-abuse-survivor-quest-for-justice/https://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/January-February-2005/feature_labi_janfeb05.msphttps://time.com/6250526/women-talking-mennonite-bolivia-real-story/ -
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Get ready for a jaw-dropping episode as we dive into the wild world of Robert Shinn and the Shekinah Church.
ALLEGEDLY, this asshole former-doctor-turned-pastor has swindled tens of millions from his followers while keeping a low profile in LA's luxury scene. Ash tells Fallon all about the bizarre teachings, control tactics, and shocking allegations of mind control, coercion, and even sexual misconduct.
Join us as we explore the twisted tale of this "Man of God" who ALLEGEDLY built his empire on the backs of his followers.
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-Audio Editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Research Assistance by Kristen Jones.
-Sources:
https://deadline.com/2022/05/7m-films-hbo-max-campfire-nile-cappello-chrissy-teigen-1235021670/amp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh5WRGT8ch8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdKdqgW5G2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGhKa6Y11TM
https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/7m-films-aka-shekinah-church-their-tik-tok-cult-ninja-sheep.69447/
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/7m-films-tiktok-dance-cult-allegations-miranda-wilking-james-derrick-1323200/
https://meaww.com/shekinah-church-cult-claims-miranda-derrick-tiktoker-7-m-films-case
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/7m-dancers-sue-alleging-robert-shinn-runs-cult-1234701158/
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4933923/pastor-tiktok-cult-shekinah-miranda-derrick/
https://culteducation.com/group/1371-shekinah-church.html?tmpl=component&print=1
https://gomiblog.com/the-wilking-sisters-drama-is-the-mindless-popcorn-munching-event-you-need-right-now/
https://www.thecut.com/2022/05/wilking-sisters-7m-allegations.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10632181/Family-claimed-TikTok-star-daughter-abducted-cult-slammed-PATHETIC.html
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Get ready for this wide ride! This week, Fallon tells Ash about the tragic and bizarre saga of Dean and Tina Clouse.
1978, New Smyrna Beach, Florida —Dean (19) and Tina (15) fall madly in love, get hitched, and have a baby. Then, in 1980, their perfect life takes a dark turn when they move to Texas and suddenly vanish. Their decomposed bodies are found near Houston, murdered in cold blood. Cue the mysterious robed women who returns their car, claiming Dean joined their cult—seriously, what?!?! Decades later, in a shocking twist, genealogical detectives find Holly alive and well in Oklahoma in 2022. Seriously, this story has everything: love, murder, cults - you name it!
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-Audio editing by Malissa Coulson.
-Research by Peggie Brott.
-Sources:
https://people.com/crime/inside-holly-marie-clouse-investigation-found-alive-40-years-disappearance-parents-murdered/
https://people.com/inside-42-year-long-missing-persons-case-baby-holly-marie-how-they-found-her-8399229
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/investigators-reveal-unprecedented-murder-case-baby-holly-parents-104605797
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https://fox4kc.com/news/baby-holly-found-alive-40-years-after-florida-couple-murdered-in-texas-woods/amp/
https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/colorado-five-year-old-inducted-mensa-top-one-percent-644130-20240308MissingKids.org
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We now have FIFTEEN episodes filled with Biblical fun on our Patreon, so we've decided to start sharing the magic. Every month we'll be releasing a past Bible episode here on the regular feed! We've compiled the first 3 episodes of "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible" for your listening pleasure... make sure to listen to those HERE before digging into this episode!
This week, former co-host Michelle Mosher wraps up Genesis with the following stories, and it's a wild ride:
Abraham - The CowardIsaac's SacrificeJoseph and the Amazing Technicolor DreamcoatJudah and Tamar
Join us here on the free feed next month for the first official episode of "Ash Learns the Bible" (remember the first four episodes were called "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible"), or listen to any and all episodes NOW on Patreon.
Ash started her Biblical journey of learning way back in December 2022 with previous co-host Michelle Mosher (episodes 101-136), in a Patreon exclusive segment called "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible". Michelle had spent many of her teen years in a Pentecostal cult and Ash had never picked up a Bible. But when Michelle got moving and grooving in other areas of life, Ash knew she had to keep quenching her thirst for that Biblical knowledge. Now friend and comedian Kristal Adams continues telling Ash about the Good Word every month on "Ash Learns the Bible", only on Patreon!
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-Audio editing and research by Ryan Pregent.
-Research and Storytelling by Michelle Mosher.
-Sources:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Judaism/Biblical-Judaism-20th-4th-century-bcehttps://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Projects/Reln91/Power/lilith.htmhttps://sites.nd.edu/manuscript-studies/2015/04/09/the-slaying-of-abel-in-apocryphal-tradition/King James BibleEnglish StandardCatholic BibleHebrew BibleBook of EnochLife of Adam EveThe Reference Bible, Das Bibelwerk : Inter Pauca problesmata de enigmatibus ex tomis canonicis, nunc prompta sunt Praefatio et libri de Pentateucho Moysi -
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Welcome back to our second episode of Ash Goes Down the Rabbit Hole, we hope you found our first episode on the world of incels, the manosphere and looksmaxxing entertaining and informative.
This week Ash journeys down the rabbit hole of the hit Netflix show, Baby Reindeer. Donny Dunn (played by Richard Gadd) deals with a woman stalker, while struggling with his sexuality and dealing with repressed grooming and SA trauma. These things did happen to Gadd in real life, but the show is billed as "A TRUE STORY", leading audience members to believe that they could trust most of what they saw on screen. Gadd emphasized that he did all he could to hide the identity of "the real" Martha, Fiona Harvey, as she was a mentally ill victim who'd been dismissed by a careless system. Yet internet sleuths were easily able to identify the real Martha, and the point of the story, the lasting effects of trauma, has been overshadowed by the insane drama.
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-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4g6l9_KUshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJrZnL17enAhttps://www.the-sun.com/news/11217811/baby-reindeer-stalker-fiona-harvey-threatens-netflix/https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/05/09/richard-gadd-and-netflix-tried-to-hide-marthas-identity-on-baby-reindeer-it-didnt-work/?sh=499ce89f157dhttps://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/baby-reindeer-is-richard-gadd-viral-breakdown-video-real-2653128/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/baby-reindeer-fiona-harvey-keir-starmer-emails-report-1235904098/https://www.reddit.com/r/BabyReindeerTVSeries/comments/1cvkvdc/richard_gadd_obtained_a_first_instance_harassment/ -
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We are SO FREAKING EXCITED to kick off TSFU's newest segment where you get to hang with Ash "one on one" and follow her down whatever rabbit hole she's recently fallen down!
We're starting this party off with a lesson in what the manosphere is, and a popular trend amongst young men on TikTok and in incel forums in the manosphere- looksmaxxing. Alphas, Chads, Mogging to up you SMV, jelqing... wtf does this all mean? Ash tells you alll about it today in our premier of ASH GOES DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE!
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-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsqV00PcszQ https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/does-mog-mean-part-overall-looksmaxxing-trend-young-men-tiktok-224620775.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHa1-4Ruk8Ml7rokb5umKzsTkQNnH2PU0tGy79IVEaNaKaKfHrkG15FadJlAy3SNOnaxSiONpQsjV17rJTi8GSZJ8O-JqV0pA4cOkRWARK7ssFH3RYvhdGFhNFf_yZ8x42EBihR76U1NMoHqZAl_Ar81eS7SZSa7eWYcgT2D0IXq#:~:text=An%20expanding%20piece%20of%20vocabulary,who%20had%20total%20control%20overhttps://www.newamerica.org/political-reform/reports/misogynist-incels-and-male-supremacism/red-pill-to-black-pill/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manospherehttps://theconversation.com/the-draw-of-the-manosphere-understanding-andrew-tates-appeal-to-lost-men-199179https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUEIczekP2c -
Picture this: a 1950's pinup model in a bikini with jet black hair and short bangs... chances are that even if you don't know who she is, you're picturing the iconic Bettie Page.
Today we're diving into the fascinating and controversial life of the iconic pin-up queen, and one of Ash's idols, Bettie Page. Ash takes us through her troubled childhood and her rise to fame, becoming the first famous bondage model, pushing boundaries in the world of BDSM photography. Despite facing exploitation and financial struggles, Betty remained unapologetically herself and embraced her sexuality. Though Bettie didn't continue through life without her struggles, as she later battled with mental health issues that led to run-ins with the law and time spent in psychiatric facilities. The gals also discuss her mysterious disappearance from the public eye and why Bettie remains a beloved icon to this day.
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-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Research by Kristen Jones.
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bettie_Page https://www.bettiepage.com/about/ https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-page12-2008dec12-story.html https://allthatsinteresting.com/bettie-page https://groovyhistory.com/bettie-page-story-fetish-fashion-biography/3https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1776086/ -
We now have FIFTEEN episodes filled with Biblical fun on our Patreon, so we've decided to start sharing the magic. Every month we'll be releasing a past Bible episode here on the regular feed! We've compiled the first 3 episodes of "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible" (4 episodes total), for your listening pleasure... join us here on the free feed next month for episode 4, or listen to episode 4 right NOW on Patreon. "Ash Learns the Bible" episodes 1-11 are also available now, only on Patreon!
Ash started her Biblical journey of learning way back in December 2022 with previous co-host Michelle Mosher (episodes 101-136), in a Patreon exclusive segment called "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible". Michelle had spent many of her teen years in a Pentecostal cult and Ash had never picked up a Bible. But when Michelle got moving and grooving in other areas of life, Ash knew she had to keep quenching her thirst for that Biblical knowledge. Now friend and comedian Kristal Adams continues telling Ash about the Good Word every month on "Ash Learns the Bible", only on Patreon!
✨For ad free access to 250 additional TSFU episodes, including all of our Bible content and all other bonus content, as well as a shite ton of other cool stuff, check out our Patreon here✨
🕸️Visit That's So Fcked Up's Website: https://tsfuthepodcast.com/
🎉Support our work and get all kinds of nifty perks: https://www.patreon.com/TSFU
☕️Buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tsfuthepodcast
📲Subscribe to our podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thats-so-fcked-up/id1508752329
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-Sources:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Judaism/Biblical-Judaism-20th-4th-century-bcehttps://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Projects/Reln91/Power/lilith.htmhttps://sites.nd.edu/manuscript-studies/2015/04/09/the-slaying-of-abel-in-apocryphal-tradition/King James BibleEnglish StandardCatholic BibleHebrew BibleBook of EnochLife of Adam EveThe Reference Bible, Das Bibelwerk : Inter Pauca problesmata de enigmatibus ex tomis canonicis, nunc prompta sunt Praefatio et libri de Pentateucho Moysi -
Welcome to the second episode of our new segment, "TSFU INTERVIEWS..."!
In this episode, Fallon sits down with author Cait West to chat about her life and her new memoir, "Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy". Cait spills all the details about growing up in the strict Christian Patriarchy movement, which adopts the beliefs of the Quiverfull Movement (check out our episode "The New F Word- Ep. 5: "Under Authority" and The Quiverfull Movement") and emphasizes men's role of authority. She was groomed to be a stay-at-home daughter with no college or career in sight. Every detail of her life was controlled until she found the courage to escape.
Rift is Cait's amazing story of breaking free from this oppressive upbringing and forging her own path. She dives into the lingering effects of patriarchal religious trauma and her own role in those systems. Her story sheds light on the impacts of "purity culture" and the abuse in some extremist Christian communities.
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We're officially back Cultlings!
Today we're talking about a fairly new cult on the horizon, The University of Cosmic Intelligence, and its mysterious and problematic leader Rashad Jamal. Fallon tells us how this group got on the public radar, their criminal actions, and what we know about the cult and its missing members. The gals also talk about cults growing online as a new danger.
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Sources:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/11/alabama-women-lured-driver-death-university-of-cosmic-intelligencehttps://www.the-sun.com/news/10140739/who-rashad-jamal-university-cosmic-intelligence/https://culteducation.com/group/1380-the-university-of-cosmic-intelligence-rashad-jamal-white/37512-an-online-prophet-claims-to-be-a-god-his-followers-keep-getting-arrested.htmlhttps://www.grunge.com/1494410/what-we-know-university-of-cosmic-intelligence-online-cult/https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-rashad-jamals-secretive-university-of-cosmic-intelligence-sect-behind-more-than-one-killing-in-alabamahttps://twitter.com/IamRashadJamal/status/1722003492640887265 https://twitter.com/IamRashadJamal https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12598517/Female-cult-member-college-woods-guilty-murder.html https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/20/cults-online-social-media-missing-people/72281211007/https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/family-police-searching-for-mom-and-daughter-missing-from-berkeley/63-9c129947-65e8-4905-ae5a-856e8bf5f2d9https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-courts/they-left-family-joined-a-cult-vanished-from-florissant-there-s-still-no-trace-of/article_7e4e5cc4-cb83-11ee-9fab-376427324d2f.htmlhttps://atlantablackstar.com/2024/01/14/police-in-missouri-are-searching-for-four-adults-and-two-children/https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-self-proclaimed-prophet-built-a-spiritual-cult-online-now-six-followers-are-missing/ar-AA1mHJ2Ohttps://www.theuci.online/public-librarySong: Kundalini Energy by Rashad Jamal -
Note: this season of TSFU Presents originally aired in February 2023. We will be back with a brand new episode next Friday!
In this episode of "Jarring Japan", a TSFU Presents season where we explored the more interesting aspects of Japanese culture, Ash and guest co-host Alex of Weird Distractions Podcast talked about insane reality, game and prank shows.
Skip to 22:03 to hear the story of Tomoaki Hamatsu aka Nasubi ("Eggplant"), a Japanese reality TV star who was left naked in a room for over a year, endlessly filling out magazine sweepstakes to win his basic needs, including food, water and clothing. While being unwittingly filmed 24/7. A new documentary about Hamatsu, The Contestant, is available on Hulu now.
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-Sources:
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WE HAVE A NEW SEGMENT, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF THREE THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT! WE PRESENT TO YOU "TSFU INTERVIEWS..."! This is a new segment where Ash, Fallon and friend of the podcast Chauntee Pitts will interview survivors, authors and all sorts of other incredible guests!
In this first conversation, Ash and Shelly Snow Pordea discuss Shelly's new book, 'The Cheating Wife,' which explores the themes of abuse, control, and the patriarchy within the context of a fictional story. They also touch on their own experiences with religious cults and the importance of raising awareness about the treatment of women within these systems. Shelly emphasizes the need for informed consent and proper training for counselors within religious organizations.
The conversation highlights the importance of challenging societal norms and promoting empathy and understanding. Ash and Shelly also discuss the harmful messages and beliefs perpetuated by religious institutions, particularly regarding gender roles and sexuality. They explore the damaging effects of the patriarchy and the pressure it puts on both men and women. Shelly shares her personal experiences growing up in a strict religious environment and how it influenced her writing. They also touch on the importance of finding a safe and supportive community and the need to ask questions and challenge dogma.
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Hi friends! This episode is a hodgepodge of updates around our mental health, Ash's recent lapse in sobriety and why she's glad she's not in AA, and what's happening on TSFU in the coming weeks. We've got a special interview and Patrons are getting a brand-spanking new episode of Ash Learns the Bible!
Ash also kicks off the show telling Fallon about a problematic singer that she recently discovered on the interwebs. Let us know if you're interested in more content like that, Ash is into it and wondering if y'all are on the same train. Please reach out and let us know! And as promised, we've provided some mental health and addiction resources below.
Mental health and addiction resources:
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helplinehttps://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-helphttps://dialecticalbehaviortherapy.com/I've personally found DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy) to be very helpful for my mental health and sobriety. It's about learning and utilizing skills including mindfulness, interpersonal effectiveness, emotion regulation and distress tolerance.https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/sober-factionI don't have personal experience with this group but its come highly recommendedhttps://smartrecovery.org/I don't have personal experience with this group but its come highly recommendedhttps://alcohol.org/alcoholics-anonymous/alternatives-to-the-aa-approach/I have not tried or verified all of the groups on this pagehttps://www.oarhealth.com/resources/alternatives-to-aa-the-many-paths-to-sobriety-or-semi-sobrietyI have not tried or verified all of the treatment suggestions on this page, but it's a lot of useful information
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Note: this episode originally aired in September 2021. Chad Daybell is currently on trial and the episode starts with an update of what's happened since our original episode aired.
Cam covered the story of Lori Vallow and her fifth husband Chad Daybell, and the disappearance of several of those around them. Daybell is the author of several Doomsday books and was the leader of a small cult, of which Lori was a devout follower. When Lori started to refer to her children, Tylee (16), and JJ (7), as zombies people began to worry a little, but not too much.
Once no one could find or speak to the children, and Lori gave conflicting stories of their whereabouts, for six months, she was finally arrested in February of 2020. The story leading up to the disappearance of Tylee and JJ, and the elopement and subsequent arrest of Vallow and Daybell in Hawaii, is stranger than fiction.
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Happy Saturday friends! This week's episode is a bit late because there's so much up to date info in it!
OJ is dead, as most of you probably know. Ash gives the deets surrounding his death. If you'd like to hear our previous episode on the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, that episode is available exclusively to Patrons here.
Netflix's Baby Reindeer is a phenomenal show that Ash tells Fallon a bit about and highly recommends! Watch here. The gals discuss the important fact that more awareness is finally being brought to male victims and stalking cases. You can find our "Lover, Stalker, Killer" episode that they refer to here.
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Note: This episode originally aired in December 2022.
There has been a recent resurgence of talk about the Synanon organization, thanks in part to documentaries released on Max and Paramount+. So we decided to reach back to December 2022 for a re-release of our Synanon episode.
Synanon started out as an alternative to AA, a rehab program for "dope fiends", but quickly turned into a sinister and deadly cult. Synanon was also the basis for many of the programs that we see today in the TTI (troubled teen industry).
In this special bonus episode, Ash is joined by badass survivor Jen Carole, whose parents were murdered by Josef DeAngelo aka the Golden State Killer. Jen grew up during the 60s and 70s in Southern California, when are where Synanon began.
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Where do we even start with "Dr." flipping Phil. He's not a licensed anything, accept for a-hole, and hasn't been for years. He's known for berating and being abusive towards guests, enabling victims of addiction, exploiting mental illness, and maybe best of all, sending multiple kids to Troubled Teen institutions.
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-Research by Erin Collins.
-Audio Editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Sources:
https://choicesseminars.com/https://www.courtroomsciences.com/https://www.meritstreetmedia.com/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_McGrawhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctors_(talk_show)https://www.drphil.com/https://www.turnaboutranch.com/https://www.texastribune.org/2018/01/10/time-oprah-winfrey-beefed-texas-cattle-industry/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyfycZcHgFAhttps://www.nickiswift.com/1421397/x-times-dr-phil-sued-by-former-tv-guests/https://www.today.com/popculture/10-5m-settlement-dr-phil-diet-plan-suit-wbna15014778https://www.breakingcodesilence.org/turn-about-ranch/https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/karla-rodriguez/bhad-bhabie-dr-phil-turn-about-ranch-accusations-explainerhttps://casetext.com/case/mahaffa-v-mcgrawhttps://stage29.tv/#showshttps://theweek.com/articles/515453/did-dr-phil-farhttps://www.nickiswift.com/722495/how-dr-phil-got-involved-in-the-natalee-holloway-case/https://www.google.com/search?q=turnabout+ranch+reviews&oq=turnabout+ranch+reviews&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQABgKGIAEMgkIAhAAGAoYgAQyCAgDEAAYFhgeMg0IBBAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBRAAGIYDGIAEGIoF0gEINDg5NWowajSoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#lrd=0x873591c559274767:0x2438180103575224,1 -
Have you seen the colorful ads enticing you to come experience "China before Communism" through the art of song and dance at a Shen Yun performance? What about the far-right wing newspaper "The Epoch Times" that preaches misogynistic, racist, homophobic and prejudiced views? They're both owned by the dangerous cult of Falun Gong which Ash tells Caitlyn and Lindsey about this week!
Caitlyn co-hosts PNW Haunts & Homicides, a podcast about true crime, the paranormal, and all kinds of spooky sh*t in the Pacific Northwest! Lindsey is the co-host of Ye Olde Crime, a podcast about spooky, strange, and surreal stories of the past. Support your local indie podcaster and check them both out today, wherever you listen to podcasts!
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-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Research by Kristen Jones.
-Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_Yun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gonghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/4477070-shen-yun-advertises-5000-years-of history-in-dance-why-does-china-call-it-an-anti-society-cult/ https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/12/shen-yun-falun-gong-traditional-chinese-dance troupe-china-doesnt-want-you-to-see https://arbiteronline.com/2023/03/14/a-look-into-the-mysterious-roots-of-shen-yun-is-the-morriso n-center-unknowingly-hosting-a-front-for-a-cult/ https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/cult-shen-yun-dance-troupe/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teachings_of_Falun_Gong#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Springs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Timeshttps://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-coons-colleagues-introduce-bill-to-hold-china-accountable-for-forced-organ-harvesting#:~:text=Experts%20estimate%20that%20the%20human,1.5%20million%20concentration%20camp%20inmates.&text=China%20appears%20to%20be%20the,is%20not%20the%20only%20offender.https://humanrightscommission.house.gov/events/hearings/forced-organ-harvesting-china-examining-evidencehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_Chinahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqwNo43p21Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAy8AngEZMs -
In 2014, two friends named Kris Kremers (21) and Lisanne Froone (22) headed from their home in the Netherlands to Panama to go on a trip to go sightseeing, and with the goal of doing community service. On April 1st, they left their host family’s house in Panama to go on hike and disappeared in the forests of Panama.
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Deaths of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon - Wikipediahttps://allthatsinteresting.com/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon(2) Disapperance of Lisanne Froon & Kris Kremers, two Dutch girls who went missing while on a hike in the Panama jungle. 10 weeks later bone fragments and a backpack were found. These pictures were from a camera in the backpack. What happened to them is a mystery. : UnresolvedMysteries (reddit.com)(2) Kremer & Froon - All picture evidence attached. : Missing411 (reddit.com)What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? (ranker.com)Final moments of missing hikers before disappearance in Panama jungle | Photos | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site12 Scary Facts About the Deaths of Dutch Hikers Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon in Panama. - True Crime ListsUnexplained Deaths of Lisanne Froon and Kris Kremers – Forensic TalesHow this journalist found herself in the middle of a Panamanian true crime story (msnbc.com)About the guide Feliciano : KremersFroon (reddit.com)Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide) | Imperfect Planhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG1nWScBfB4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OPhUt_XJ6Q&t=177shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6of8b79oAFghttps://www.strangeoutdoors.com/mysterious-stories-blog/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon - Visa fler
