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  • In this episode, Jeffrey “Jihoz” Zerlin joins us to discuss the evolution of the Ronin Ecosystem as the leading web3 gaming blockchain. Jihoz is the Co-founder of Axie Infinity, a team on a mission to create economic freedom for gamers by building games that are truly player owned. In our conversation, we cover Jihoz's continued success, decentralization of the Ronin Chain, where web3 gaming and DeFi collide, governance of gaming protocols, and much more.

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  • In this episode, Marcelo joins us to discuss the future of Asset and Treasury Management across DeFi. Marcelo is the Co-founder of Karpatkey, a team providing financial services to the leading DAOs. In our conversation, we cover Karpatkey's founding story, DAO M&A, GIP-92, and the role Karpatkey looks to play in helping bank DeFi.—⏳ TIMESTAMPS✏️ SHOW NOTES▸ https://www.karpatkey.com/▸ https://governance.aave.com/t/temp-check-financial-services-proposal-karpatkey-tokenlogic/15633▸ https://forum.gnosis.io/t/gip-92-should-gnosis-dao-spin-off-karpatkey-dao-and-deploy-the-kpk-token/8115— 👋 FOLLOW US▸ StableLab https://twitter.com/StableLab▸ Juan https://twitter.com/0xCadena▸ Gustav https://twitter.com/GArentoft▸ Marcelo https://twitter.com/claberus ▸ Karpatkey https://twitter.com/karpatkeySubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter https://stablelab.substack.com/Subscribe on YouTube https://youtube.com/@StableLabxyzSubscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1Subscribe on Apple —⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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  • In this episode, Greg Di Prisco joins us to chat about all things DeFi Protocol Design. Greg is the former Head of Business Development at MakerDAO and is now Co-founder at Ajna Finance, an innovative oracle-free lending and borrowing protocol soon to be redeployed. In our conversation, we cover Ajna's recent griefing exploit, designing DeFi from first principles, and the future of Ajna's ecosystem growth and development.—⏳ TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro1:15 Greg's Journey and Source of Inspiration3:27 How MakerDAO Influenced Greg5:35 Maker's Focus on Governance7:40 Greg's Push for Real-World Assets at Maker11:13 What Influenced Ajna Finance13:22 How Ajna Finance Innovates14:48 Ajna UX Considerations

    17:03 The Complexity Barrier

    19:18 DeFi's New Direction

    22:42 Protocol Upgradeability

    25:23 How Ajna Scales

    28:11 Lessons from Building Ajna

    29:50 The Ajna Vulnerability

    35:30 Ajna Multichain Strategy

    38:07 Ajna Grants Program

    40:53 Ajna Ecosystem and Growth

    42:30 Why the D in DeFi is a Farce

    47:15 Final Thoughts/Outro✏️ SHOW NOTES https://www.ajna.finance/https://gdipri01.medium.com/building-defi-from-first-principles-537903e756ebhttps://forum.ajna.finance/— 👋 FOLLOW USStableLab https://twitter.com/StableLabJuan https://twitter.com/0xCadenaGustav https://twitter.com/GArentoftGreg https://twitter.com/g_dipAjna Finance https://twitter.com/ajnafiSubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter https://stablelab.substack.com/Subscribe on YouTube https://youtube.com/@StableLabxyzSubscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1Subscribe on Apple —⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • In this episode, we're joined by Justine, Governance Lead and Architect at the Optimism Foundation. Justine is a prolific builder busy experimenting with governance designs and mechanisms at Optimism, the Layer-2 scaling solution. We dive into how the Foundation has evolved in its short lifespan, her research on DAO policies and frameworks, how building complex governance structures enables exclusivity and much more.—⏳ TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro1:15 Key Takeaways from Justine's DAO Research3:55 What is DAO legitimacy?4:54 DAO Representatives vs Contributors7:17 The Lack of DAO Frameworks and Policies 9:30 Governance Differences by Protocol Type12:43 Ecosystem Knowledge Sharing13:54 Evolution of the Optimism Foundation16:47 The Foundation's Plan to Hand Over Power21:03 Progressive Decentralization Frameworks and Strategies23:26 Governance Complexity as a Barrier to Entry25:54 Important Lessons from Season 430:19 Superchain and Law of Chains32:15 Combatting Capture Resistance in Councils34:45 Season 5 and 6 Initiatives36:14 Final Thoughts/Outro✏️ SHOW NOTES https://www.optimism.io/https://gov.optimism.io/https://vote.optimism.io/https://www.optimism.io/retropgf— 👋 FOLLOW USStableLab https://twitter.com/StableLabJuan https://twitter.com/0xCadenaGustav https://twitter.com/GArentoftJustine https://twitter.com/lalalavendrOptimism Foundation https://twitter.com/optimismFNDSubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter https://stablelab.substack.com/Subscribe on YouTube https://youtube.com/@StableLabxyzSubscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1Subscribe on Apple —⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • In this episode, we're joined by Matt Dobel, Head of BD at Gauntlet. Matt provides us with insights into Gauntlet, the industry's foremost active risk management expert and one of the oldest service providers for DAOs. We delve into Gaunlet's B2D approach, the scalability of Service Providers, the significance of nurturing the maturity and growth of DAOs, and how Gauntlet has solidified itself as the undisputed leader in the field.—⏳ TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro1:09 What Gauntlet Aims to Achieve3:35 Matt's motivation to join Gauntlet7:52 How Gauntlet has become a market leader10:14 Gauntlet's approach to B2D12:17 The pressure of leading by example13:50 Improving the governance process for Service Providers17:05 How Gauntlet decides which ecosystem to contribute to19:18 Aera at Compound24:38 The challenges of DAO treasury management 26:30 The Arbitrum Coalition28:45 Distinguishing Service Providers from Delegate31:31 The path from Delegate to Service Provider33:06 Why Gauntlet is a Delegate35:16 How Service Providers scale37:33 Monetsupply's tweet on DAOs as counterparties39:11 How Gauntlet can scale42:15 DAOs need guidance to mature44:55 How Gauntlet approaches stakeholder relations and education47:17 Why active risk management is useful50:51 Final Thoughts/Outro✏️ SHOW NOTES https://www.gauntlet.xyz/https://governance.aave.com/t/arfc-gauntlet-aave-renewal-2023/15380https://forum.arbitrum.foundation/t/proposal-the-arbitrum-coalition/19145— 👋 FOLLOW USStableLab https://twitter.com/StableLabJuan https://twitter.com/0xCadenaGustav https://twitter.com/GArentoftMatt Dobel https://twitter.com/mattdobelGauntlet https://twitter.com/gauntlet_xyzSubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter https://stablelab.substack.com/Subscribe on YouTube https://youtube.com/@StableLabxyzSubscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1Subscribe on Apple —⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • In this episode, we have the pleasure of being joined by Devin Walsh, Executive Director of the Uniswap Foundation. Devin shares the UF's journey, sharing invaluable lessons learned during the Uniswap Foundation's first year.We explore the controversies surrounding Uniswap Governance, the intricate relationship between the Uniswap DAO and the UF, and hear about the UF's ambitious plans for 2024.—⏳ TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro1:13 Why Devin Left Uniswap Labs to Start the UF4:18 Why the Uniswap Foundation Exists8:30 The UF's Biggest Achievements13:36 Proposal to Continue Funding the UF16:35 How the UF Promotes Transparency20:44 The Relationship between the DAO and the UF23:49 UF's Biggest Challenges 26:58 The Role of the UF in Uniswap Governance36:50 Further Plans for Governance Activation Events40:49 Fighting Delegate Collusion and Bias43:15 Controversial Budget and Investment Proposals45:15 Why is Uniswap Governance so Controversial?49:34 What are Hooks and What to Look Forward to in 2024?53:17 Final Thoughts/Outro✏️ SHOW NOTES https://vote.uniswapfoundation.org/https://www.uniswapfoundation.org/https://uniswap.org/https://uniswap.notion.site/Bridge-Assessment-Report-0c8477afadce425abac9c0bd175ca382— 👋 FOLLOW USStableLab https://twitter.com/StableLabJuan https://twitter.com/0xCadenaGustav https://twitter.com/GArentoftDevin https://twitter.com/devinawalshUniswap Foundation https://twitter.com/UniswapFndSubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter https://stablelab.substack.com/Subscribe on YouTube https://youtube.com/@StableLabxyzSubscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1Subscribe on Apple —⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • In this episode, we're given a tour of the Factory for DeFi with Charles St. Louis, CEO at DELV. Charles walks us through the DELV rebrand, how he thinks governance should be architected, the possibilities with permissionless collateral onboarding, and much more. Also in our conversation, the former governance architect at MakerDAO highlights the tough lessons learned at the leading stablecoin protocol.
    —⏳ TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro1:16 What is DELV?2:12 Why Rebrand?3:10 DELV's 2023 5:37 What DELV is Focused on 6:27 DELV Core Product Suite17:45 How Should Governance Be Architected21:31 Project-based vs Role-based Governance Contributions23:58 The Bootstrap Phase in DAOs27:18 How Element DAO Approaches Governance32:15 Static vs Upgradeable DeFi Protocols37:05 Permissionless Collateral Onboarding 41:48 Mitigating Protocol Attack Vectors44:00 AMM vs Lending vs Yield-based Protocol Governance 45:46 DAO Constitutions as the Unified Vision49:31 Tradeoffs for Actually Decentralizing 51:19 The Hard Lessons from MakerDAO Governance55:12 Charles' Fondest MakerDAO & Element Protocol Memories58:17 Final Thoughts/Outro✏️ SHOW NOTES https://www.delv.tech/https://twitter.com/delv_techhttps://forum.element.fi/https://www.element.fi/— 👋 FOLLOW USStableLab https://twitter.com/StableLabJuan https://twitter.com/0xCadenaGustav https://twitter.com/GArentoftCharles https://twitter.com/CharlieStLouisSubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter https://stablelab.substack.com/Subscribe on YouTube https://youtube.com/@StableLabxyzSubscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1Subscribe on Apple Music—⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • Welcome to the first episode of StablePod, a podcast brought to you by the StableLab team. Join us as we dive deep into the world of decentralized governance, organizations, systems, and beyond.In this episode, Juan and Gustav shed light on the launch of our new podcast, StablePod. We explore the inspiration behind the podcast, our ambitious goals, the diverse range of guests we aim to feature, and our outlook on governance.Make sure to tune in to StablePod to hear from influential stakeholders, including Service Providers, Delegates, DAO Contributors, and DeFi founders, as they shape the decentralized systems of tomorrow.—⏳ TIMESTAMPS0:00 Welcome to StablePod1:02 Gustav’s Intro2:50 Juan’s Intro5:05 Promoting Governance Education7:17 What We Hope to Achieve With StablePod10:33 What We Will Cover13:21 The Mapping of DAO Stakeholders15:37 Our Hands-on Experience with DAOs17:10 Explosion of Governance Activity19:44 The New Wave of DAO Governance22:33 How StableLab Helps Protocols 26:53 Minimum Governance30:00 Our Motivations and Goals34:44 What to Expect from StablePod37:00 Outro— 👋 FOLLOW USStableLab https://twitter.com/StableLabJuan https://twitter.com/0xCadenaGustav https://twitter.com/GArentoftSubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter https://stablelab.substack.com/Subscribe on YouTubeSubscribe on SpotifySubscribe on Apple Music—⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • In this episode, we explore the exciting world of Maker SubDAOs, featuring Nadia Alvarez (COO) and Sam MacPherson (CEO) of Phoenix Labs. As a pioneering R&D smart contract firm and a key player in the development of Spark Protocol, we discuss the launch of Phoenix Labs, the vital role of ecosystem actors in Maker's Endgame, and the latest SparkLend protocol updates.—⏳ TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro

    1:20 What is Phoenix Labs and Spark Protocol

    3:22 How & Why Phoenix Labs Was Formed

    6:50 The Introduction of Ecosystem Actors

    8:04 Transitioning from Core Units to Phoenix Labs

    10:00 Overcoming Endgame's Challenges

    13:40 Spark Protocol Updates

    16:04 Other Product Features

    18:06 How Spark Might Onboard New Protocols

    21:34 Current Spark Governance

    23:17 Spark's Oracle Feeds

    25:13 Collaboration with External Projects

    26:36 Spark Reconnects with Users

    29:42 SubDAO Governance

    31:22 ATLAS Guidance

    32:00 Betting on Maker Governance

    33:49 Spark's Rapid Growth

    37:28 Profit Share Agreement with Aave

    39:18 Friendly Forks & Public Goods

    41:05 How SubDAOs Interact

    43:45 Battling Service Provider Entrenchment

    45:30 SPK Launch48:22 Fondest Memories from Maker—✏️ SHOW NOTES- https://app.sparkprotocol.io/- https://twitter.com/sparkdotfi- https://twitter.com/phoenixlabsdev- https://spark.blockanalitica.com/v1/ethereum/👋 FOLLOW USStableLab ⁠https://twitter.com/StableLab⁠Juan ⁠https://twitter.com/0xCadena⁠Gustav ⁠https://twitter.com/GArentoft⁠Nadia https://twitter.com/nad8802Sam https://twitter.com/hexonautSubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter ⁠https://stablelab.substack.com/⁠Subscribe on YouTube ⁠https://youtube.com/@StableLabxyz⁠Subscribe on Spotify ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1⁠Subscribe on Apple Music—⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • In this episode, we chat with David Phelps, Co-founder of Jokerace. Together, we explore the world of voter incentives and governance mechanisms. With the recent launch of Jokerace v3, an onchain contests platform, David shares the latest developments of v3, what gamifying governance solves, and the value of tokenless voting.

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    0:00 Intro

    1:24 What is JokeRace

    3:15 What's New with v3

    4:28 Why Tokenless Voting Matters

    6:42 The Importance of Onchain Voting

    10:30 Jokerace Features

    13:43 Projects Using Jokerace

    17:29 Allowlists

    18:56 Integrations & Partnerships

    21:43 Benefits of Simple Governance Designs

    24:29 Solving Voter Apathy & Friction

    28:34 Gamifying Governance

    32:18 Lack of Financial Incentives

    35:20 Developing Incentive Mechanisms

    38:04 Onchain Attestations & Reputation

    41:53 Mapping Offchain Contributions

    44:22 Governance Contribution Metrics

    46:53 AI and its Role in Governance

    48: 17 Web3's Embracement of AI

    49:20 What Project Would You Love to Have in the Space?

    51:01 Outro

    —✏️ SHOW NOTES- https://jokerace.xyz/- https://davidphelps.substack.com/—👋 FOLLOW USStableLab ⁠https://twitter.com/StableLab⁠Juan ⁠https://twitter.com/0xCadena⁠Gustav ⁠https://twitter.com/GArentoft⁠David Phelps https://twitter.com/divine_economySubscribe to our Weekly Newsletter ⁠https://stablelab.substack.com/⁠Subscribe on ⁠YouTube ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH8YYtIE3rnxtVxl3ecAUqASubscribe on ⁠Spotify⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/33O3eLPLJjgm7Htj28SOh1Subscribe on Apple Music—⚠️ DISCLAIMERThe information in this video is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). Juan, Gustav, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

  • In this episode, we sit down with Marc Zeller, Founder of the Aave Chan Initiative, to discuss the evolution and growth of the Aave DAO. As a prominent figure in the Aave ecosystem, the ACI has a front-row seat to many of the developments and innovations within the lending protocol. Together, we explore the ascent of the ACI, how the Aave Protocol ultimately wins, and what's in store for Aave in 2024.

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    0:00 Intro1:14 Motivation for Launching the ACI3:20 Why Now?6:10 The ACI Vision10:30 Team Expansion at the ACI13:06 Marc's Approach to Delegation15:32 Becoming the Voice of Tokenholders19:27 ACI's Growing Influence21:43 Professionalization, Growth, and Maturity at Aave DAO25:08 How to Get Involved at Aave DAO29:08 ACI's Future Plans 31:40 How Does Aave Win?33:27 Why Aave DAO Helps the Protocol Succeed36:06 Where Aave Needs Help and Current Budget Constraints39:20 How do we Stop Gatekeeping43:50 What's Planned for 202447:00 Building a Sustainable Protocol Through PMF48:28 The Importance of a Leading Figure50:17 Outro

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    - https://governance.aave.com/

    - https://aavechan.eth.limo/

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