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In this episode of Secure Line, hosts Leah West and Jessica Davis examine the evolving terrorism landscape in Canada. The discussion is driven by recent terrorist attacks in the United States at the start of 2025, which reignited concerns about domestic threats. While some have suggested that ISIS is “back,” others argue it never really disappeared. At the same time, ideologically motivated violent extremism—ranging from ultraright nationalists to accelerationists—continues to expand its influence.
Award-winning investigative journalist Stewart Bell joins the conversation to analyze the findings of a new Insight Threat Intelligence report that tracks terrorism charges, incidents, and financing in Canada. The data shows a significant increase in terrorist attacks and arrests over the last decade, raising critical questions about whether Canada’s counterterrorism efforts are keeping pace with the threat. Despite these trends, the country’s official terrorism threat level has remained unchanged for over 15 years.
The episode explores several key issues, including the cost of terrorist attacks in Canada, the difficulties in prosecuting terrorism cases, and the continued influence of ISIS in recruiting young people. The discussion also looks at Canada’s reliance on intelligence sharing with the United States, particularly as the FBI undergoes major internal changes that could impact future counterterrorism cooperation.
The broader implications of economic instability and shifting U.S. foreign policy are also considered. Reductions in international aid, trade restrictions, and diplomatic shifts could create conditions that extremist groups exploit for recruitment and influence. The conversation highlights the risks of underestimating these factors and the challenges of countering extremist financing networks that remain largely intact.
The episode closes with a look ahead at future discussions on the global terrorism threat. In the next installment, Colin Clarke will join to provide insight into how these issues fit into the broader international security landscape.
This episode offers a data-driven perspective on Canada’s terrorism threat, revealing gaps in official assessments and raising important questions about the country’s counterterrorism approach.
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Is Canada finally taking foreign interference seriously? In this episode of Secure Line, we sit down with Michelle Tessier, the former Deputy Director of Operations at CSIS, for an in-depth discussion on intelligence, transparency, and the increasing threat of foreign interference in Canada. Having spent decades at the highest levels of Canada’s intelligence service, Michelle brings a unique perspective on how the country has historically handled this growing national security challenge.
Our conversation explores the impact of the Hogue inquiry, which raised critical questions about intelligence transparency. Michelle shares her views on how CSIS has evolved in its approach to public engagement and whether Canada is ready to take meaningful action against foreign interference. She also discusses the delicate balance intelligence agencies must strike between protecting operational confidentiality and ensuring Canadians understand the threats facing their democracy.
We also examine why foreign interference remained largely overlooked for decades, despite being enshrined in the CSIS Act since the agency’s creation. Michelle reflects on the political sensitivities that kept it in the shadows and how recent revelations, particularly those involving leaked intelligence and media reports, have forced the issue into public debate. She provides insight into the long-standing intelligence-to-evidence problem, which continues to hinder Canada’s ability to prosecute national security offenses, and explains why even with new legislation, enforcement remains a challenge.
With Canada heading into a federal election and provincial elections in 2025, the conversation turns to what needs to be done to safeguard democratic institutions from foreign interference. Michelle discusses how political parties, intelligence agencies, and policymakers should be preparing, and whether the recent legal reforms granting CSIS greater ability to share intelligence with provincial leaders and other stakeholders will make a real difference.
In addition to foreign interference, we also talk about Michelle’s career at CSIS, where she was the first woman to serve in multiple senior executive roles, including Deputy Director of Operations. She shares her experiences as a leader in a traditionally male-dominated intelligence field, how the service has evolved in terms of diversity and workplace culture, and the work that still needs to be done to make Canada’s intelligence leadership more representative.
Finally, we touch on the global intelligence landscape and what a second Trump presidency could mean for Canada’s national security and its relationships with Five Eyes partners. Michelle offers her thoughts on whether intelligence cooperation can remain stable in an era of political volatility, and what lessons Canada should be learning from its allies on countering foreign influence.
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In this Podmergency episode of Secure Line, Stephanie Carvin, Jessica Davis, and Leah West break down the latest Canada-U.S. border security deal, announced after the threat of sweeping tariffs from the Trump administration. They explore the $1.3 billion package aimed at securing the border, including the appointment of a fentanyl czar, the designation of cartels as terrorist organizations, and the creation of a Canada-U.S. strike force targeting organized crime and money laundering.The hosts question the effectiveness of these measures, discussing the murky concept of an "intelligence directive," the realities of financial crime enforcement in Canada, and whether listing cartels as terrorist organizations is a meaningful step or political theater. They also examine the broader implications of Trump-driven security demands and whether Canada is prioritizing the right solutions for its own fentanyl crisis.Is this a real policy shift, or just old announcements repackaged? And will any of these measures actually tackle organized crime and illicit finance? Tune in for a sharp, insightful discussion on this controversial deal's national security and economic implications. Stay to the end for a special guest appearance from Cricket.
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In this episode of Secure Line, hosts Stephanie and Jessica reflect on the final report from Canada’s Public Inquiry into Foreign Interference. They explore the major revelations about foreign interference by China, Russia, and India in Canada’s political system, particularly in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections.
The conversation highlights key takeaways from the inquiry, including systemic failures in intelligence sharing, the role of misinformation and disinformation in shaping public discourse, and Canada's ongoing struggle to address foreign interference effectively. They critique intelligence culture in Canada, the government’s response to security threats, and the persistent challenges in intelligence writing, dissemination, and policymaking.
Jessica provides insights into the financial aspects of foreign interference, discussing gaps in financial intelligence and policy loopholes that enable illicit funding. Stephanie raises concerns about the RCMP’s capability to respond to national security threats, highlighting resource shortages and structural inefficiencies. The hosts also analyze the implications of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) report, including its unintended political fallout and the broader issue of public trust in democratic institutions.
They reflect on whether this inquiry truly brought new insights or simply confirmed what was already known about Canada’s security and intelligence weaknesses. They also discuss lessons from past commissions and whether political and institutional reforms will actually follow.
The episode ends with a discussion on foreign influence narratives surrounding the U.S., particularly how Russian-backed media has manipulated disinformation networks.
Tune in for a candid, insightful discussion about Canada’s evolving security landscape and the persistent gaps in addressing foreign interference.
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The inaugural episode of Secure Line, a podcast hosted by Jessica Davis, Leah West, and Stephanie Carvin, explores the implications of Donald Trump’s return to office as the 47th President of the United States and its impact on Canadian security and intelligence. The discussion focuses on how Trump's policies, including proposed tariffs on Canadian goods and suggestions about Canada becoming the 51st state, might challenge Canada's national security and economic stability. With guests Thomas Juneau and Justin Ling, the hosts discuss challenges facing Canada, including potential emboldening of extremist groups, reduced intelligence cooperation, and shifting U.S. foreign policies. The hosts and guests discuss Canada's reliance on U.S. intelligence, the need for a coherent foreign policy, and the strain on domestic institutions like the RCMP and defense. They highlight the urgency for Canada to prioritize its security and defense strategy amidst increasing geopolitical instability and potential trade tensions with the U.S.
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Welcome to Secure Line, launching in late January 2025.
