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Trust doesn’t usually die in a dramatic blow up. It dies in the small moments leaders let slide: the awkward conversation that never happens, the “brilliant” employee who gets away with bad behaviour, the silence that lets rumours do the talking. Gearl Loden joins us to share the thinking behind his new book, Before It Breaks, and why trust is the foundation that makes decisions faster, teams calmer, and culture stronger.
We walk through Gearl’s seven pillars of trust, a practical framework leaders can actually operationalise: character, consistency, communication, competence, care, clarity, and courage. We dig into why communication isn’t the same as clarity, how promotions fail when competence isn’t developed, and what caring leadership looks like in a brisk, high-performance environment where people still have room to breathe and think.
Because many of you lead SaaS teams, we also get specific about scaling from startup energy to a 50 person organisation without losing your culture. That includes onboarding, cross-team systems, AI adoption training, and remote team trust. We also look outward to customer trust: why most SaaS customers won’t complain before they churn, and how mergers and product changes can erode loyalty when you don’t communicate a roadmap early.
We finish with a simple but powerful trust repair move: don’t just say “sorry” and stop. Name the impact, own the decision, and say what you’ll do differently next time, then repeat it until it becomes credible.Produced by Hat Media
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A complete resource bundleInvitation to a complimentary live masterclassFree PDF of Before It Breaks: The Complete Leadership Workbook (Available during the early launch window)Connect with Gearl
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When the travel agency industry vanished overnight, Nik Froehlich saw what was coming for every industry and built a business to help them navigate it. In this episode of SaaS Stories, the President & CEO of Saritasa shares why 20+ years of bridging business and technology still comes down to one thing: people who can speak both languages.
From coaching CEOs through digital transformation to adding AI agents that delivered an 83% improvement in customer service for a youth sports SaaS platform, Nik's story is proof that the future belongs to those who stay optimistic, stay agile, and never stop learning.
Brought to you by Hat Media — B2B marketing specialists for the SaaS world.
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Is your SaaS business growing but somehow still feeling stuck? You might be spending 80% of your energy on the wrong 20% of clients.
In this episode of SaaS Stories, host Jo is joined by Christine Day, B2B growth strategy consultant, published author, software developer, and fractional CMO, to explore the 80/20 Growth Strategy and what it really means for SaaS businesses trying to break through growth plateaus.
Christine shares the moment everything clicked for her: sitting in a client's office and realising that the one thing missing from every growth strategy is a data-driven ideal customer profile. What followed was a framework and eventually a software tool to help businesses objectively score and rank their clients, then laser-focus their growth efforts on the ones that matter most.
In this episode you will learn:
What the 80/20 (Pareto) principle actually means for SaaS revenue and client valueHow to identify your top 20% using business goals and top-down metrics, not guessworkThe three options for dealing with your bottom 80%What a value inflection point is and how to recognise when you have hit oneHow account-based marketing fits into a high-value client strategyWhy most SaaS companies track metrics at the company level but miss the most important view, the customer levelWhether you are in early scale-up or have been stuck at the same revenue number for a while, this conversation will give you a new lens for growth.
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Short and sweet episode on the fundamentals of Account-Based Marketing (ABM). The fastest way to waste a B2B SaaS budget is to market to the wrong accounts, then call it “pipeline”. Joana sits down with Nigel Houghton, co-founder of Hat Media, to unpack what actually changed in B2B sales and marketing over the last 20 years and why those changes make account-based marketing a must for enterprise SaaS.
If you’re choosing between demand generation and account-based marketing, building an enterprise pipeline, or trying to break into a small set of high-value accounts in Australia and beyond, this conversation will give you a clearer path. Subscribe for more, share this with a teammate, and leave a review with the one ABM question you want answered next.Send us Fan Mail
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Want a marketing edge that still works when algorithms shift and feeds overflow? We dive deep with publisher and ghostwriter Henry DeVries to show why story beats noise and how a single book, paired with the right stages, can turn your expertise into inbound demand and high‑value clients.
Henry lays out his “Magnificent Seven” for converting pages into pipeline: run small online seminars, speak on other people’s stages, publish consistently, show up in target‑rich communities, volunteer to open doors, create short video assets, and host paid deep dives that often break even while surfacing serious buyers. Along the way, we talk generosity as a brand, why trust outlasts tactics, and how to market actively without sliding into hard sell.
If you’ve felt stuck at seven figures, spread thin across demos and content formats, this conversation makes a focused case to niche harder and be intensely useful to fewer people.View more SaaS Stories at Hat Media.
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In this episode of SaaS Stories, Vadim Rogovskiy, Founder and CEO of EVE, shares how AI-first sales execution is reshaping B2B SaaS growth and why most teams are leaving revenue hidden inside their inboxes.
We explore how acquiring a legacy SaaS business uncovered hundreds of untouched opportunities, inspiring EVE to turn real email conversations into a live, prioritised sales funnel without changing workflows. Vadim breaks down founder-led GTM, AI-powered follow-ups, pipeline prioritisation, and why inbox-driven execution often outperforms traditional CRM-only approaches.
Drawing on experience as a multi-time founder, VC, and operator, Vadim also shares lessons on scaling, hiring with AI, community-led growth, and what separates SaaS companies that scale from those that stall.
Learn how Hat Media helps B2B SaaS teams operationalise demand generation, ABM, and revenue execution at scale.
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In this episode of SaaS Stories, Thomas Waites, seasoned CRO and enterprise SaaS advisor, shares how strong sales culture and revenue alignment transform teams into predictable growth engines.
We explore why founder-led sales builds empathy and speeds decision making, how enterprise deals still close on emotion backed by proof, and how technical founders can shift from feature-focused pitches to buyer-led discovery.
Thomas also breaks down how shared metrics and aligned incentives help sales, marketing, and customer success pull together through key GTM milestones.
A practical conversation on revenue execution, culture-driven growth, and building systems that compound predictable results.
Learn how Hat Media helps B2B SaaS teams operationalise demand generation, ABM, and revenue execution at scale.
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Most SaaS founders chase a bigger TAM, but Arman Eshraghi, Founder and CEO of Qrvey, argues the real advantage comes from winning smaller, high-pain markets where focus and execution matter most.
In this episode of SaaS Stories, we unpack how embedded analytics and AI built for multi-tenant B2B SaaS can outperform generic dashboards, and how customer education drives stronger demand generation than broad advertising.
Arman shares how Qrvey designed an orchestrated buyer journey by aligning content, trials, sales engagement, and pricing to key GTM milestones, while using customer experience as a strategic execution layer to accelerate retention and growth.
We also explore global expansion, team culture, and where AI-powered automation delivers real enterprise value today.
A masterclass in precision, ABM-aligned GTM execution, and building systems that compound trust and revenue.
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One urgent email sparked everything for Sam Spencer, CEO of Aristotle Metadata, when a European health agency requested a solution no competitor could deliver. That moment of clear product-market fit became the foundation for a decade of focused SaaS growth.
In this episode of SaaS Stories, we explore the unglamorous realities of scaling B2B software, from competing with spreadsheets to building execution systems that support long-term retention and pipeline.
Sam shares where AI-driven automation creates real value today, including consistency, drafting, and operational speed, and where trust and human connection still matter most.
We also dive into lean hiring, process-first leadership, and practical GTM fundamentals that continue to work, including clear positioning, owned channels, and network-led demand generation.
A grounded conversation on milestone-driven execution, operational discipline, and building scalable systems that compound growth.
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AI is not taking your job, but someone who knows how to use it will. In this episode of SaaS Stories, Amy Farner shares a practical playbook for how HR leaders can align people strategy with business outcomes, using data and automation to drive decisions that hold up in the boardroom.
We explore Galileo, the AI agent and AI-native learning platform from The Josh Bersin Company, built on trusted research and partner data to deliver grounded recommendations, faster execution, and personalised upskilling at scale.
Amy also breaks down GTM lessons that apply across B2B SaaS, including leading with original insights, targeting the mid-market, and embedding AI into the tools buyers already use.
A forward-looking conversation on scalable execution, AI-driven enablement, and building the skills that compound in a changing workforce.
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“The volume game is over.” In this episode of SaaS Stories, Jeremy Chatelaine, Founder and CEO of QuickMail, challenges the outdated playbook of mass cold outreach and explains what actually works in today’s buyer-driven market.
We explore why modern outbound requires precision, relevance, and trust, not scale for scale’s sake. Jeremy shares how intent-led, highly targeted engagement consistently outperforms generic personalisation, and why small, account-focused campaigns are the future of sustainable pipeline.
He also unpacks how AI-powered automation can support outreach execution, from improving deliverability to creating authentic messaging at scale, without losing the human connection.
A practical conversation for B2B SaaS teams looking to operationalise smarter GTM execution, build credibility, and drive meaningful revenue outcomes.
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Trust in B2B buying has reached a breaking point, and traditional sales and marketing signals are no longer enough. In this episode of SaaS Stories, Braydan Young, Co-Founder and CEO of SlashExperts, shares how buyer-led growth is reshaping modern GTM execution.
After scaling Sendoso, Braydan recognised that prospects increasingly seek validation from real peers, not polished case studies. SlashExperts operationalises this shift by moving customer references to the start of the buyer journey, allowing SaaS companies to connect prospects with actual users through a “Talk with a Customer” experience.
We unpack how this approach strengthens trust, improves conversion, and creates first-party insights that fuel demand generation, ABM engagement, and revenue outcomes.
A timely conversation on buyer-first growth systems, scalable execution, and building credibility at the moments that matter most.
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When everyone can generate AI content instantly, how do B2B SaaS teams cut through the noise and build real market authority? In this episode of SaaS Stories, Tyler Lubben shares his concept of “weaponised intelligence,” using insights from data sources AI cannot easily replicate.
We explore how scraping communities, analysing authentic language patterns, and grounding content in real buyer signals creates stronger engagement than polished AI output. Tyler also unpacks the rise of digital clones, the shift toward private communities, and why trust and relevance are becoming the most valuable GTM assets.
A forward-looking conversation on AI-driven execution, authentic demand generation, and finding durable differentiation in an increasingly automated market.
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How do construction businesses coordinate office teams, on-site crews, and independent trades while staying profitable? In this episode of SaaS Stories, Jordan Powell, CEO of Loop Logics, shares how he built software to bring structure, safety, and scalable execution to one of the most complex industries.
Jordan unpacks his journey from builder to SaaS founder, including the MVP stress test that proved the platform’s impact when workload surged by 60% overnight. We explore how operational systems and automation can unlock efficiency across finance, admin, and workforce management.
We also discuss the growing role of AI in scheduling, resource planning, and data-driven decision-making as construction faces a skills shortage and infrastructure boom.
A grounded conversation on building practical technology, scaling through real-world execution, and navigating high-stakes growth milestones.To read more about Construction Tech and Scale.
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How can SaaS companies measure brand impact with confidence, not guesswork? In this episode of SaaS Stories, Stephanie Clapham, Director of Research at Latana, explains how next-generation brand tracking is transforming visibility into brand health and market perception.
We unpack why traditional tracking often creates a trust gap through unreliable data and high costs, and how Latana uses machine learning, Bayesian statistics, and smarter sampling to deliver more accurate insights.
Stephanie shares what early-stage and scaling B2B SaaS teams should measure first, including awareness and perception benchmarks that support stronger positioning through key GTM milestones.
A practical conversation on data-driven marketing execution, AI-enabled insight generation, and measuring what actually moves growth.
To learn more about Modern Brand Tracking.
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In this episode of SaaS Stories, Sam Zammit shares his journey from military service to co-founding Karmo, a vehicle subscription platform reshaping how Australians access cars without the long-term burden of ownership.
We explore the hidden economics of traditional vehicle ownership, why flexibility is becoming a stronger consumer driver, and how subscription-based models create new pathways for scalable growth.
Sam also reflects on the founder mindset, from grit and persistence to making intentional career and business decisions through high-stakes growth milestones.
A grounded conversation on innovation, value-driven business models, and building companies that meet evolving market expectations.
To read more about Startup Growth, Changing Markets and Rethinking Ownership.
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In this episode of SaaS Stories, Angus Stevens shares how Start Beyond has spent nearly a decade transforming workplace training through immersive virtual reality experiences that employees actually want to engage with.
We explore the balance between technology and storytelling, and why the most effective learning platforms start with human questions, including how audiences should feel and how content will be experienced.
Angus also offers a grounded perspective on AI adoption, using automation only when it enhances real outcomes rather than adding hype.
A thoughtful conversation on scalable enablement, experience-led innovation, and building learning systems that drive lasting impact.
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How do SaaS companies scale without losing focus, burning out teams, or overcomplicating GTM execution? In this episode of SaaS Stories, Dave Boyce shares the real drivers of sustainable growth across product, sales, marketing, and customer success.
We explore why one clear GTM motion beats fragmented expansion, how repeatable founder-independent systems unlock long-term acquisition value, and where AI-powered automation is already streamlining qualification and sales enablement.
Dave also breaks down the importance of segment focus, customer-led demand generation, and aligning execution to the milestones that matter most.
A masterclass in operational discipline, scalable GTM strategy, and building systems that compound revenue and trust.
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What can SaaS founders learn from a company tracking 5 million brands in real time? In this episode of SaaS Stories, Alex Nitsenzon, CEO of Charm.io, shares how his lean team is building an e-commerce intelligence platform that turns messy market signals into actionable GTM clarity.
We explore AI-powered classification, composite scoring models, and how data-driven automation can support sharper positioning, demand generation, and partner-led growth.
Alex also unpacks when to hire sales leadership, how to scale without bloated headcount, and why listening to real buyer signals is becoming a competitive advantage.
A practical conversation on milestone-driven execution, intelligent growth systems, and building SaaS in complex markets.
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Why do technical founders often struggle with sales execution, even with a great product? In this episode of SaaS Stories, Matthew Wyatt, Founder of Tech Torque, shares how shifting from product-first thinking to trust-first engagement transforms enterprise GTM outcomes.
We explore why the best product does not always win, how buyer journeys are driven by human psychology, and why effective sales comes from listening to customer pain instead of leading with feature-heavy demos.
Matthew breaks down practical strategies for ABM-aligned execution, including stakeholder-specific messaging, education-led demand generation, and building credibility before asking for commitment.
A grounded conversation on human-first B2B growth, sales alignment, and creating systems that compound trust and revenue.
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