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Guest: Ambassador Brendan Dowling, Ambassador for Cyber Affairs and Critical Technology, DFAT
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendan-dowling-7812b4261/
AT AU Cyber Con | https://canberra2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/brendan-dowling
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
This conversation with Brendan Dowling gave us a glimpse into the strategies, challenges, and collaborations shaping Australia’s digital future—and reminded us all that the cyber frontier is not just a technical battlefield but a deeply human one.
The Role of a Cyber Ambassador
Dowling began by discussing the unique responsibilities of a Cyber Ambassador, a role that integrates cybersecurity into foreign policy at the highest levels. He emphasized how this position, once viewed as an innovative experiment, has become a strategic necessity for national security. As cyber threats grow increasingly complex and borderless, cyber diplomacy has emerged as a critical tool for fostering stability and trust on the global stage.Strengthening Global Collaboration
During the discussion, Dowling highlighted the collaborative nature of Australia’s cybersecurity efforts. He explained how cooperation within government agencies and partnerships with international allies are key to staying ahead of emerging threats. These relationships enable critical information-sharing, strategic alignment, and unified responses to incidents, underscoring the interconnectedness of today’s digital ecosystem.Navigating AI and Ethical Challenges
The conversation turned to artificial intelligence and its growing role in society. Dowling addressed the ethical considerations of AI development and deployment, stressing the importance of balancing innovation with responsibility. He described Australia’s approach to advocating for ethical design and policy frameworks that protect privacy and human rights while maximizing AI’s benefits.Building Resilience in Critical Infrastructure
Critical infrastructure was another focal point of the discussion. Dowling acknowledged the increasing complexity of protecting vital systems, from industrial control processes to supply chains. He emphasized resilience—not only in preventing attacks but in responding swiftly and effectively when incidents occur. This approach ensures that essential services, such as energy and manufacturing, can continue to operate even under pressure.Cultural Contexts in Cybersecurity
Dowling also reflected on the role of cultural differences in shaping cybersecurity strategies. He shared experiences from his international work, where addressing issues like online safety and disinformation often requires sensitivity to local norms and values. Tailoring cybersecurity approaches to diverse cultural contexts, he noted, is vital for fostering trust and collaboration across regions.Conclusion:
As the conversation concluded, Dowling reaffirmed the need for continued cooperation, innovation, and cultural understanding in tackling global cyber challenges. Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli expressed their gratitude, leaving listeners with a clear message: cybersecurity is not just a technical issue—it’s a global, ethical, and deeply human challenge that requires collective effort.____________________________
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Resources
Australia's global opportunity and responsibility: shaping a more secure region and a safer digital world (Session): https://canberra2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/australias-global-opportunity-and-responsibility-shaping-a-more-secure-region-and-a-safer-digital-world
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Guest: Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager / Sr Lecturer, AusCERT / UQ
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivano-bongiovanni-cybersecurity-management/
At AU Cyber Con | https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/ivano-bongiovanni-ibtpp
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
This AISA Cyber Con 2024 On Location podcast episode recorded in Melbourne spotlights critical discussions led by Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager for AUSCERT and Senior Lecturer in Cybersecurity at the University of Queensland. The dialogue centers on pivotal issues shaping organizational approaches to cybersecurity, from decision-making factors to data governance and regulatory influences.
Bongiovanni discusses his research on decision-making in cybersecurity, conducted across six large organizations. By interviewing professionals at operational, tactical, and strategic levels, the study examines the multifaceted factors driving decisions, such as configuring security systems or choosing cyber insurance. The research identifies four primary influence levels: industry, organizational, team, and individual. Key drivers include regulations at the industry level, organizational culture, and access to collaborative professional forums. These insights aim to provide decision-makers with a reflective framework to ensure comprehensive and informed choices.
Another prominent focus is data governance. Bongiovanni emphasizes its role as both a foundation for robust cybersecurity and a potential avenue for organizational value creation. He highlights the challenges organizations face in mapping, managing, and securing their data. While traditionally viewed through a lens of loss prevention, he argues that effective data governance can unlock operational efficiencies and new business opportunities. This aligns with a broader industry shift to link cybersecurity investments to strategic value creation, rather than purely protective measures.
The episode also touches on evolving regulatory landscapes. Bongiovanni outlines the increasing scrutiny on board members and CISOs (Chief Information Security Officers) regarding cybersecurity accountability. While Australia is still catching up with global trends, parallels are drawn to the U.S., where regulations like the SEC’s proposed cyber disclosures link leadership liability to organizational cybersecurity practices. In Australia, existing duties of care under the Corporations Act are becoming focal points for regulatory expectations.
Information-sharing frameworks, such as ISACs (Information Sharing and Analysis Centers), also feature in the discussion. Bongiovanni underscores their importance in fostering collaboration, particularly in sectors like higher education and healthcare. He notes the ongoing cultural shift encouraging organizations to share threat intelligence securely, which is essential for collective resilience.
Through Bongiovanni’s contributions, this episode highlights both the challenges and opportunities in cybersecurity decision-making, emphasizing a nuanced understanding of regulatory, cultural, and technical dynamics.
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Resources
Future is now: Cautious reflections and bold predictions on cyber security in the years to come (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-FsEVnuge9u
How do we make decisions in cybersecurity? Operational, tactical, and strategic decision-making in the age of AI (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-BdOGZjahUe
The executive playbook: Elevate your cyber security through data governance (Workshop): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/workshops/workshop-rxAAQPTLUJ
Learn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australia
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Guest: Daisy Wong, Head of Security Awareness, Medibank
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/daisywong127/
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Kicking off the conversation, Marco noted the absence of his co-host Sean, whose focus often leans technical. This opened the door for a deeper exploration into the human and operational side of cybersecurity, an area Daisy Wong is uniquely equipped to discuss.
Daisy’s career journey, from earning a marketing degree to becoming Medibank’s Head of Security Awareness, is rooted in understanding human behavior. Her hands-on experience with phishing emails and time spent in a pen-testing team revealed how critical culture and communication are to effective cybersecurity.
The Power of Communication and Culture in Cybersecurity
Daisy highlighted how her ability to simplify complex technical language became the cornerstone of her work in cybersecurity awareness. She emphasized that soft skills, like communication, are just as essential as technical know-how in navigating today’s cyber challenges.Drawing cultural parallels, Daisy shared analogies from her cultural heritage, like the tradition of removing shoes before entering a home, and compared them to cybersecurity practices. Marco added an Italian twist, pointing to customs like cheek-kissing as a metaphor for ingrained behaviors. Together, they underscored how fostering a security-first mindset mirrors cultural conditioning—it requires intentionality, consistency, and collective effort.
Breaking Barriers and Building Bridges
One of the key takeaways from the discussion was the need to break down the misconception that cybersecurity is solely a technical field. Daisy argued for creating environments where employees feel safe reporting security concerns, regardless of their technical background.She shared strategies for fostering collaboration, like simple yet impactful initiatives during Cyber Awareness Month. These efforts, such as wearing branded T-shirts, can make security a shared responsibility and encourage open communication across teams.
Staying Ahead in an Evolving Threat Landscape
Daisy also spoke about how cyber threats are evolving, particularly with the rise of generative AI. Traditional warning signs, like spelling mistakes in phishing emails, are being replaced with far more sophisticated tactics. She emphasized the need for organizations to stay adaptable and for individuals to remain vigilant.While AI offers tools to identify risks, Daisy and Marco agreed that personal accountability and fundamental awareness remain irreplaceable in ensuring robust security practices.
In this lively episode of On Location with Marco Ciappelli, Daisy Wong spotlighted the indispensable role of human behavior, culture, and communication in cybersecurity. Her insights remind us that while technology evolves, the human element remains at the heart of effective cyber defense.
Cybersecurity isn’t just about systems and software—it’s about people. And as threats become more sophisticated, so must our strategies, blending technical tools with cultural awareness to create a resilient and adaptable defense
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Guest: Jinan Budge, Vice President, Principal Analyst serving Security & Risk professionals, Forrester
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jinan-budge-2898132/
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
The Australian Cyber Conference Melbourne 2024 is a dynamic hub of innovation, bringing together top cybersecurity professionals and thought leaders to tackle the industry’s most pressing challenges. On this On Location Recording Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli have a conversation with Jinan Budge, Vice President at Forrester Research, focusing on the vital role of human-centered security in today’s evolving landscape.
Building a Human-Centered Cybersecurity Culture
One of the central themes of the discussion was the shift from traditional security awareness programs to human risk management. Jinan Budge emphasized the need to move beyond treating people as liabilities and instead design security practices that align with individual behaviors and motivations. This evolution toward human-centered cybersecurity is essential to addressing the unique risks posed by human behavior while fostering a culture of adaptability and trust.
Collaboration Between Enterprises and Vendors
The podcast highlighted the shared responsibility between enterprises and vendors to advance security practices. Enterprises must embrace adaptive security solutions tailored to their workforce, while vendors have a pivotal role in driving innovation and educating the market. This partnership is key to creating flexible, effective solutions that meet the needs of diverse organizations, from startups to global enterprises.
Understanding the Human Element in Data Breaches
Budge introduced a framework she calls the “wheel of human element breaches,” which categorizes risks such as social engineering, human error, and insider threats. This comprehensive approach pushes the conversation beyond the common narrative of phishing attacks, encouraging organizations to adopt holistic strategies that address the root causes of human-driven vulnerabilities.
Education and Continuous Learning
Marco Ciappelli and Jinan Budge underscored the importance of integrating cybersecurity education into early learning environments. Instilling digital safety habits at a young age helps build an instinctive understanding of cybersecurity, preparing future generations for the increasingly digital workplace. This foundation ensures smoother transitions into organizational cultures where cybersecurity is second nature.
Conclusion
The discussions at the Australian Cyber Conference Melbourne 2024 illuminated the industry’s growing focus on human-centered strategies and collaboration between enterprises and vendors. These efforts underscore the importance of proactively addressing human risks and integrating cybersecurity education into every level of society. Events like this continue to shape the future, offering invaluable insights and inspiration for those dedicated to advancing the field.
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Guest: Jacqueline Jayne, The Independent Cybersecurity Expert
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelinejayne/
At AU Cyber Con | https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/jacqueline-jayne-smict
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
During the On Location series at AISA Cyber Con 2024 in Melbourne, the conversation about cybersecurity turns engaging as Jacqueline Jayne, Security Awareness Advocate, shares her experience on human risk management and cybersecurity education. Her insights bring forward crucial points on bridging the gap between human behavior and technological security measures.
One pivotal topic discussed is the persistent challenge of human error in cybersecurity. Jacqueline highlights that human error now accounts for over 90% of security breaches. The approach to mitigating these risks isn't merely technological but educational. She emphasizes the need for comprehensive security awareness training and shifting organizational culture towards proactive risk management.
Jacqueline shares, “Organizations should redefine IT departments from the ‘Department of No’ to the ‘Department of K-N-O-W.’” She believes that instead of restricting users, organizations should focus on empowering them with knowledge, emphasizing the importance of comprehensive training that connects with employees on a personal level.
Throughout the conversation, the importance of contextual and relatable education stands out. Jacqueline advocates for simulated phishing campaigns to provide real-world scenarios for employees. By understanding and experiencing what a phishing attempt looks like in a controlled environment, employees can better recognize and react to actual threats.
Another compelling point is teaching digital citizenship from a young age. Jacqueline compares cybersecurity education to road safety education. Just as children learn road safety progressively, digital safety should be ingrained from an early age. Appropriate and guided exposure to technology can ensure they grow up as responsible digital citizens.
The discussion also touches on parental and organizational roles. Jacqueline discusses the proposal of banning social media for children under 16, acknowledging its complexity. She suggests that though banning might seem straightforward, it's more about educating and guiding children and teenagers on safe digital practices. Organizations and parents alike should collaborate to create a safer and more informed digital environment for the younger generation.
Towards the end, the dialogue shifts to the potential role of AI in enhancing cybersecurity awareness. There’s a consensus on using AI not as a replacement but as an augmentative tool to alert and educate users about potential threats in real-time, potentially mitigating the risk of human error. In conclusion, the conversation highlights the indispensable role of education in cybersecurity. JJ's perspective fosters a comprehensive approach that includes organizational culture change, continuous engagement, and early digital citizenship education. It’s not just about implementing technology but evolving our collective behavior and mindset to ensure a secure digital future.
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Resources
The top 10 skills your security awareness and culture person must have with no IT or cyber skills in sight (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-OZ4j4mTr1O
Keeping our kids safe online: The essential information for parents and caregivers (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-oBf7Gjn2xG
Security awareness 2.0: The paradigm shift from training and simulations to engagement and culture: https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-drDWsOKBsL
Learn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australia
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Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
In this pre-event Chats on the Road episode of the On Location with Sean and Marco Podcast, hosts Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli meet up in person and on location to discuss their excitement and expectations for the upcoming Australia Cybersecurity Conference 2024 in Melbourne. They express their enthusiasm about reuniting with the cybersecurity community and emphasize the significance of the event, which is organized by AISA and supported by notable individuals like Akash Mattel, Megan, and Abbas Kudrati.
Sean and Marco share a light-hearted opening conversation about boats and travels, setting a casual tone before diving into what they look forward to at the conference. The hosts appreciate the opportunity to connect with industry leaders and attendees, emphasizing the importance of stories in operationalizing cybersecurity in business and society.
Sean highlights the need to align technology with business processes while adhering to policies and laws on a global scale. On the other hand, Marco provides a broader perspective on the interaction between individuals, society, and technology, stressing the role of cybersecurity in protecting personal privacy and fostering human interaction — it turns out it's all about the intersection of technology and culture.
The hosts reflect on their past experiences in the cybersecurity field, with Sean sharing an anecdote about a vintage AV hat that represents his journey at Symantec rooted in the Australia. culture. This reflection underscores the value of learning from past and present experiences to shape a better future in cybersecurity.
Sean and Marco discuss the diverse sessions and interactions planned for the event, mentioning notable speakers like Joe Sullivan and Mikko Hypponen. They are particularly excited about the wide range of topics to be covered, from policy and privacy to operational strategies and the human element in cybersecurity.
As they anticipate the week ahead, Sean and Marco invite listeners to engage with them during the conference. They are eager to forge new relationships and gather stories that resonate on a global scale, underscoring the event's potential for fostering meaningful connections and enhancing cybersecurity practices worldwide.
Tune in to hear Sean and Marco's thoughts on what promises to be an exciting and informative week at the Australia Cybersecurity Conference 2024. Whether you're attending the event or staying tuned from afar, this episode sets the stage for the compelling conversations and insights to come.
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Guests:
Fred Heiding, Computer Security Specialist, World Economic Forum [@wef]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/fheiding/
On Twitter | https://twitter.com/fredheiding
On Mastodon | https://mastodon.social/@fredheiding
On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/fheiding/
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Introduction
Hello everyone, Marco here. Thanks for joining another thought-provoking episode of the Redefining Society and Technology Podcast.Today, we’re exploring the ripple effect between society and technology—a back-and-forth that shapes our everyday lives more than most people realize. Joining me for this conversation are two thoughtful guests: Sean Martin and Fred Heiding, each bringing a unique view from the trenches of cybersecurity and beyond.
Technology and Society: A Two-Way Street
The conversation kicks off in a bit of a role reversal—this time with Sean on the other side as a guest, and Fred, who’s no stranger to the podcast, rejoining us to share perspectives shaped by years in both academia and industry. Together, we dug into a foundational question: How does technology shape society, and how does society shape technology? It’s a question that lies at the core of our podcast, and Fred brought up some great examples of how national cybersecurity policies reflect deeper societal and cultural values across the globe.
The Influence of Capitalism on Tech Advancement
As we peeled back the layers, the conversation naturally turned to capitalism's role in technology’s relentless drive forward. There’s no doubt that economic incentives can fuel remarkable innovation, but they also raise critical questions. Are we designing and creating technology solely for profit? Is there room for ethical and societal concerns to play a larger role? This tension is particularly evident in areas like artificial intelligence, where financial motives might sometimes overshadow the broader social benefits we’re hoping to achieve.
AI in Cybersecurity: A Double-Edged Sword
Speaking of AI, the conversation wouldn’t be complete without discussing how it’s reshaping cybersecurity. Fred laid out a compelling look at the dual role AI plays in this space—enhancing our defense strategies, yet potentially giving new tools to attackers exploiting human vulnerabilities. While it might sound daunting, I left the conversation feeling optimistic. AI could become an accessible, universal shield, offering protections that adapt to everyone’s needs, tech-savvy or not.
Looking Toward the Future
We wrapped up on a hopeful note, looking ahead to a future where cybersecurity goes beyond merely responding to threats. Instead, we envision a world where technology anticipates challenges, creating tools and strategies for the betterment of society. After all, if we can use technology to crack decades-old cold cases, who’s to say we can’t use it to secure a better future?
As always, my goal is to leave you thinking—questioning the status quo, exploring the labels and promises tech offers, and considering how it all lines up with our values and goals.
Subscribe and Stay Curious
Huge thanks to Sean and Fred for joining me today. And to everyone tuning in, make sure you subscribe to Redefining Society And Technology Podcast and our ITSPmagazine YouTube channel. There’s plenty more ahead as we continue challenging ideas, redefining technology’s role, and asking the questions that need answers.
Until next time, keep questioning everything and stay curious!
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Virtual Natives: How a New Generation is Revolutionizing the Future of Work, Play, and Culture (Book): https://amzn.to/4eh4NqL
Guest: Leslie Shannon, Head of Trend and Innovation Scouting, Nokia [@nokia]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslie-shannon-75856718/
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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
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Episode Introduction
Welcome to another thought-provoking discussion on the Redefining Society and Technology Podcast. I'm Marco Ciappelli, your host, and today we delve into the blurred boundaries of our hybrid analog-digital world. It's time to stop ignoring the profound impact of technology on our society because the future is now.
The Blurring Line: Physical vs. Virtual
Imagine a world where the line between the physical and virtual realms no longer exists—a figment of our imagination. We live in such a world today. In a conversation with Leslie Shannon, we explore her insightful books, Virtual Natives and Interconnected Realities, which delve into the dynamics of emerging technology and its impact on society.
Leslie, Head of Trend and Innovation Scouting at Nokia, elaborates on the concept of integrating digital tools into our physical environments. Whether through augmented reality or AI-infused devices, technology is increasingly woven into the fabric of our daily lives.
Technology Adoption: More Than Meets the Eye
Leslie's exploration into mixed reality, AR, VR, and the metaverse opens up new avenues for understanding how technology is adopted—not just how it’s designed. Her insights highlight the intrinsic need for technology to solve real, tangible problems for users, emphasizing convenience and utility over novelty.
Although immersive digital worlds offer fascinating experiences, they must provide genuine solutions to gain widespread acceptance. This is the metaverse’s core challenge—bridging the digital with physical in a fulfilling way.
Virtual Natives: A New Generation with Old Wisdom
Leslie's book, Virtual Natives, describes a generation that grew up in a truly digital world unencumbered by remnants of analog processes. This new breed, adept at digital multitasking and unburdened by past paradigms, promises to be a potent force for innovation and disruption.
Yet, despite concerns about social skills and real-world interactions, Leslie and I discuss the resiliency and empowerment of these digital descendants. They are not bound by traditional workplace expectations, questioning norms with an arsenal of digital alternatives at their disposal.
Redefining Society, Redefining Ourselves
Our society is being redefined by dynamic interactions with technology. From embracing tools like CHAT GPT in daily life to questioning long-held norms in education and workplace practices, our relationship with technology is continuously evolving.
In conclusion, the next steps in societal evolution depend on how we integrate these digital realities into our everyday lives. As Leslie suggests, the spatial internet and technological advancements offer opportunities we haven’t fully realized yet but promise significant societal shifts.
Let’s embrace the change, question the status quo, and redefine what it means to be a part of this connected and innovative society. The future is not somewhere you go; it’s something you create.
I invite you to stay tuned as we continue to explore these fascinating intersections between technology and society on the Redefining Society and Technology Podcast. Stay curious, stay questioning.
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Resources
Interconnected Realities: How the Metaverse Will Transform Our Relationship with Technology Forever (Book): https://amzn.to/4egYeVm
Virtual Natives: How a New Generation is Revolutionizing the Future of Work, Play, and Culture (Book): https://amzn.to/4eh4NqL
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Guests:
Sara Sargent, AutoSens Automotive Technology Specialist
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarasargent17/
Rob Stead, Managing Director and Founder, Sense Media Group
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertjstead/
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Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
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Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society and Technology Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
The episode kicks off with a playful exchange between Sean and Marco, setting the tone for an engaging discussion about the future of automotive tech. Marco points out the rapid advancements in the industry, comparing it to the evolution from the Flintstones' manually-powered car to today's sophisticated autonomous vehicles. Sean highlights the significance of these advancements and the pivotal role conferences like AutoSens and InCabin play in shaping the industry's future.
A Brief History of AutoSens and InCabin
Rob Stead, the managing director and founder of SenseMedia, provides a historical overview of the AutoSens conference. Established in 2015, AutoSens was born out of a need to bring together experts from various sectors of the automotive industry to foster collaboration and innovation. The event has grown exponentially, and in 2016, the first AutoSens conference was held. Today, AutoSens and its sister event, InCabin, attract a diverse audience, including engineers, regulators, and manufacturers.
Key Themes and Discussions
The conversation dives into the core themes of the upcoming conferences. Sara Sargent, an Automotive Technology Specialist at SenseMedia, explains her dual role in ensuring technical integrity and leading the InCabin event. She emphasizes the importance of addressing current safety concerns, such as child presence detection and airbag deployment accuracy. These technologies not only enhance safety but also pave the way for future innovations in autonomous driving.
The Complexity of Autonomous Vehicles
Rob elaborates on the challenges faced by the industry, emphasizing the difficulty of achieving full autonomy (L4) in consumer vehicles. He notes that while L4 technology is feasible, it is costly and likely to be limited to fleet operators rather than individual consumers. The transition to higher levels of automation will be gradual, with most vehicles remaining at Level 2 (L2) for the foreseeable future.
The Importance of Redundancy and Collaboration
Sean questions the need for various sensor modalities in vehicles, to which Rob responds by explaining the concept of redundancy. Multiple sensors, including cameras, radar, and LiDAR, work together to create a comprehensive and reliable system. This redundancy is crucial for ensuring safety and reliability in autonomous driving systems. Additionally, the conversation touches upon the importance of vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2X) technology and its potential to enhance transportation systems.
InCabin: Advancing Interior Sensing
The discussion shifts to the interior sensing technologies covered in the InCabin conference. Sara highlights the significance of these technologies in ensuring passenger safety and comfort. From detecting medical emergencies to preventing drunk driving, interior sensors can play a critical role in enhancing the overall driving experience. However, Sara acknowledges the privacy concerns that come with increased interior monitoring.
Looking Forward to the Conferences
Rob and Sara both express their excitement for the upcoming conferences in Barcelona. They provide a sneak peek into some of the keynotes and technical sessions, emphasizing the collaborative nature of the events. Notably, the conferences will feature discussions on HMI design, simulation validation, and insights from the Chinese automotive market.
Conclusion
As the episode wraps up, Sean and Marco reflect on the importance of conferences like AutoSens and InCabin in driving innovation and ensuring the safety and reliability of future automotive technologies. They encourage listeners to attend the events and stay tuned for more insightful discussions on the evolving landscape of automotive technology.
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Learn more about AutoSens Europe 2024: https://auto-sens.com/europe/
Learn more about InCabin Europe 2024: https://incabin.com/europe/
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Guest: Jenee Henry Wood, Chief Learning Officer, Transcend [@TranscendBuilds]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenee-henry-wood-12ba9871/
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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
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Episode Introduction
In the latest episode of the Redefining Society Podcast, host Marco Ciappelli welcomes Jenee Henry Wood to explore the transformative ideas in her new book, Extraordinary Learning for All. As the Chief Learning Officer at Transcend, Jenee leads a forward-thinking organization dedicated to reimagining the educational system. Together, they discuss the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead for the future of education.
A Brief Note on the Episode
The episode opens with a friendly exchange, setting the stage for an in-depth discussion on educational reform. Marco and Jenee share a passion for breaking away from outdated educational models and exploring more community-driven, adaptive approaches.
Breaking Down the Industrial Era Model
Jenee introduces the concept of “industrial era learning,” the traditional model that groups students by age and follows a standardized curriculum. This approach, which has dominated education for over a century, no longer meets the diverse needs of today’s society. At Transcend, Jenee and her team are working to dismantle this one-size-fits-all system, emphasizing the need for more personalized, inclusive learning models.
Challenges and the Need for Change
Marco and Jenee discuss how the current system often stifles creativity and critical thinking. The COVID-19 pandemic exposed these limitations, highlighting the urgency for reform. Jenee explains how Transcend is leading efforts to address these shortcomings, helping schools and communities develop education systems that are more flexible and responsive to individual student needs.
Envisioning a New Model
In Extraordinary Learning for All, Jenee offers a blueprint for reshaping education, with a focus on holistic development rather than standardized testing. She introduces the concept of “community-based design journeys,” which empowers local communities to collaborate with Transcend in redesigning their educational frameworks. This model prioritizes creativity, purpose, and adaptability, preparing students for the uncertainties of the modern world.
The Importance of Self-Directed Learning
Marco reflects on his own experiences with education, emphasizing how self-directed learning fosters independence and lifelong curiosity. Jenee agrees, pointing out that Transcend’s mission is to cultivate environments where students are encouraged to pursue their passions and take ownership of their learning journeys.
The Role of Technology
While technology is a key tool in educational transformation, both Marco and Jenee emphasize that it’s not a silver bullet. Digital platforms and tools can enhance learning, but as Transcend advocates, they must be integrated thoughtfully into a broader strategy of reform. The real power of technology lies in its ability to support more personalized and adaptive learning experiences.
Looking Ahead
As they conclude their conversation, Marco and Jenee agree that the journey toward educational reform is just beginning. Extraordinary Learning for All is not only a book, but also a call to action for educators, policymakers, and communities to rethink how we approach education. Through the work of Transcend, the future of learning looks promising—one that is inclusive, adaptive, and student-centered.
Get Involved
For those eager to learn more, Extraordinary Learning for All is available for pre-order on Amazon. The book serves as a guide to the innovative strategies that can reshape education. Stay tuned for part two of this enlightening conversation, where Marco and Jenee will dive deeper into the transformative work that Transcend is doing to redefine education.
A Call to Action
Don’t forget to subscribe to the Redefining Society Podcast for more thought-provoking discussions on how technology and societal changes are shaping the world. Be sure to pre-order Extraordinary Learning for All and join Transcend in the movement to create a brighter future for education.
About the Book
Are you ready to break free from the constraints of an education system that isn’t working for all of our children and embrace a future where every student thrives? You’re not alone. Innovation and change has never been more possible in schools than now, today.
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Guest: Ashley Jess, Senior Intelligence Analyst, Intel 471 [@Intel471Inc]
At SecTor | https://www.blackhat.com/sector/2024/briefings/schedule/speakers.html#ashley-jess-48633
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Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
As part of their Chats on the Road for the On Location series during SecTor in Toronto, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli had an engaging conversation with Ashley Jess, a Senior Threat Intelligence Analyst from Intel471.
The discussion centered on the intricacies of artificial intelligence (AI), its uses, and its abuses in the realm of cybersecurity. Ashley's upcoming presentation titled "Hello from the Dumpster Fire: Real Examples of Artificially Generated Malware, Disinformation, and Scam Campaigns" sets the stage for an in-depth exploration into the dark side of AI. Ashley gives a glimpse into how AI is being utilized for nefarious purposes, highlighting the connection between generative AI and disinformation campaigns. She explains how AI has been used to create politically motivated fake graffiti, deepfake videos with celebrities, and even entirely fabricated news websites.
She emphasizes that the lowest barrier to entry for generating such content is lower than ever, making it easy for bad actors to create and spread false information swiftly. She mentions a particularly interesting case during the Olympics, where an entire propaganda movie starring a deepfake Tom Cruise was produced for political purposes. This example underscores the potential of AI to convincingly spread disinformation on a massive scale. She also points out how scam campaigns are increasingly leveraging AI, making them more believable and harder to detect.
One crucial topic Ashley touches on is the matter of responsibility in combating these threats. She discusses the need for more robust government regulations and the role of various technology vendors in detecting and preventing the misuse of AI. She highlights the importance of technologies like Web3 and blockchain for content provenance.
According to Ashley, integrating such measures into platforms used by everyday people can help mitigate the risks posed by AI-generated disinformation. Marco Ciappelli adds to this by reflecting on how easy it is to create misleading content and target vulnerable populations. He points out that ordinary citizens, who are not as vigilant or technologically savvy, are at greater risk. On this note, Sean Martin questions who should be responsible for protecting individuals and organizations from AI-based threats.
The discussion also touches on the ethical aspects of AI and its dual-use nature—where technological advancements can be both beneficial and harmful. Ashley emphasizes the need for a balanced approach that considers both the legitimate applications of AI technology and its potential for abuse. Ashley Jess is enthusiastic about her upcoming talk at SecTor where she promises to delve further into these critical issues.
The session aims to provide a realistic, frontline view of how AI is being used maliciously and to encourage more proactive measures to combat these emerging threats. For those attending SecTor, her insights promise to be both enlightening and essential.
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Hello From the Dumpster Fire: Real Examples of Artificially Generated Malware, Disinformation and Scam Campaigns (Session): https://www.blackhat.com/sector/2024/briefings/schedule/#hello-from-the-dumpster-fire-real-examples-of-artificially-generated-malware-disinformation-and-scam-campaigns-41161
Learn more about SecTor Cybersecurity Conference Toronto 2024: https://www.blackhat.com/sector/2024/index.html
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Guest: Cassie Crossley, VP, Supply Chain Security, Schneider Electric [@SchneiderElec]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassiecrossley/
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Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
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Episode Notes
In this episode of On Location with Sean and Marco, hosts Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli head to San Francisco to attend the OWASP Global AppSec conference. They kick off their journey with a light-hearted conversation about their destination, quickly segueing into the substantive core of the episode. The dialogue provides a rich backdrop to the conference's key focus: securing applications and the crucial role of Software Bill of Materials (SBOMs) in this context.
Special guest Cassie Crossley joins the hosts to delve deeper into the significance of SBOMs. Cassie introduces herself and highlights her previous engagements with the podcast, touching on her upcoming session titled "The Missing Link: How We Collect and Leverage SBOMs." She explains the essential function of SBOMs in tracking open-source and commercial software components, noting the importance of transparency and risk evaluation in modern software development.
Cassie explains that understanding the software components in use, including transitive dependencies, is crucial for managing risks. She discusses how her company, Schneider Electric, implements SBOMs within their varied product lines, ranging from firmware to cloud-based applications. By collecting and analyzing SBOMs, they can quickly assess vulnerabilities, much like how organizations scrambled to evaluate their exposure in the wake of the Log4J vulnerability.
Sean and Marco steer the conversation towards the practical aspects of SBOM implementation for smaller companies. Cassie reassures that even startups and smaller enterprises can benefit from SBOMs without extensive resources, using free tools like Dependency-Track to manage their software inventories. She emphasizes that having an SBOM—even in a simplified form—provides a critical layer of visibility, enabling better risk management even with limited means.
The discussion touches on the broader impact of SBOMs beyond individual corporations. Cassie notes the importance of regulatory developments and collective efforts, such as those by the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), to advocate for wider adoption of SBOM standards across industries.
To wrap up, the hosts and Cassie discuss the value of conferences like OWASP Global AppSec for fostering community dialogues, sharing insights, and staying abreast of new developments in application security. They encourage listeners to attend these events to gain valuable knowledge and networking opportunities. Finally, in their closing remarks, Sean and Marco tease future episodes in the On Location series, hinting at more exciting content from their travels and guest interviews.
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The Missing Link - How We Collect and Leverage SBOMs (Session): https://owasp2024globalappsecsanfra.sched.com/event/1g3XV/the-missing-link-how-we-collect-and-leverage-sboms
Why the Industry Needs OpenSSF | A Conversation with Omkhar Arasaratnam, Adrianne Marcum, Arun Gupta, and Christopher Robinson | Redefining CyberSecurity with Sean Martin: https://redefiningcybersecuritypodcast.com/episodes/why-the-industry-needs-openssf-a-conversation-with-omkhar-arasaratnam-adrianne-marcum-arun-gupta-and-christopher-robinson-redefining-cybersecurity-with-sean-martin
Learn more about OWASP 2024 Global AppSec San Francisco: https://sf.globalappsec.org/
SBOM-a-Rama: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7232385837869469699/
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Book: The Singularity Is Nearer: When We Merge with AI by Ray Kurzweil (Author) https://amzn.to/3Zk7CTa
Guest: Dr. Bruce Y Lee, Executive Director of PHICOR (Public Health Informatics, Computational, and Operations Research) [@PHICORteam]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-y-lee-68a6834/
On Twitter | https://twitter.com/bruce_y_lee
Website | https://www.bruceylee.com/
On Forbes | https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/
On Psychology Today | https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/bruce-y-lee-md-mba
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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
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Episode Introduction
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Redefining Society Podcast. This episode also marks the return of the series "A Carbon, a Silicon, and a Cell Walk Into a Bar," wherein I'll be joined by my good friend and co-host, Dr. Bruce Y. Lee. Today, we're diving into a topic that perfectly aligns with the ethos of our series – transhumanism.
Setting the Stage
In our chat, Bruce and I discussed various facets of transhumanism, from its historical roots to the ethical dilemma it poses today. I opened the conversation by expressing how delighted I was to have Bruce, a man of many talents, join me. I emphasized his diverse background in journalism, medical expertise, and his strange affinity for avocados – a passion that I certainly share with him. We started by noting the sheer breadth of transhumanism – a term encompassing everything from genetic manipulation to uploading our brains to the cloud.
Human History Meets Future Potential
Bruce brought up a thought-provoking point about how humanity's journey with technology is not new. Even something as ancient as the wheel fundamentally altered what humans could accomplish. The act of inventing the wheel allowed humans to do things they couldn't do before, much like what transhumanist technologies promise today. However, Bruce and I quickly recognized that more complex technologies, like genetic manipulation and AI integration, bring forth a host of ethical and practical questions.
Confronting Ethical Questions
We moved on to discuss the ethical implications of transhumanism. Where does one draw the line between necessary medical interventions and unnecessary enhancements? For example, medical implants that help people with degenerative diseases are widely accepted. Yet, when technology is used to enhance human abilities – making one faster or smarter – the ethical waters become murkier.
Balance of Benefits and Risks
Bruce highlighted how society has historically handled similar ethical conundrums. One poignant example is performance-enhancing drugs in sports. Initially, these drugs were developed for legitimate medical use, yet athletes later adopted them to gain unfair advantages, skewing the level playing field. Bruce and I agreed that such parallels are worth pondering as we consider transhumanist technologies.
A Garlic-Inspired Reflection
Throughout our conversation, we found humor and caution in the metaphorical garlic Dr. Bruce brought along (as a background image) an amusing yet insightful reminder of the importance of asking questions. We concluded that while we should remain optimistic about technological advancements, it’s vital to ask intelligent questions and consider potential consequences before diving headfirst into uncharted waters. This garlic-induced paradigm should guide our approach to emerging technologies like AI and brain-computer interfaces.
Looking Forward
For future episodes, Bruce and I have a packed agenda. We'll tackle specific topics like healthcare inequality in the age of singularity, human augmentation, and even far-fetched ideas like uploading your brain to the cloud. Each of these topics offers a blend of promise and peril – perfect for a series dedicated to exploring how technology is both reshaping and being shaped by society.
Closing Thoughts
So, stay tuned, and don't forget to subscribe! We’ll cover these fascinating topics and much more in our upcoming episodes. And a special thanks to Bruce and the ever-vigilant garlic for reminding us to thoughtfully navigate the complex landscape of transhumanist technology.
See You Next Time
You'll find links to connect with Bruce and explore his incredible contributions in journalism and medicine. I promise you; he's just as insightful and entertaining as he seems in the series. So, see you next time – same bar, same garlic, new topics!
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The Singularity Is Nearer: When We Merge with AI (Book): https://amzn.to/3Zk7CTa
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Guest: Jeff Reich, Executive Director, Identity Defined Security Alliance [@idsalliance]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jreich/
On Twitter | https://twitter.com/JeffReichCSO
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Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Welcome to this pre-event episode of On Location, where we’re diving into what’s to come at Identity Week Americas, happening September 11th and 12th, 2024, at the Washington Convention Center in D.C. Although I won’t be on-site, Jeff—who leads the Identity Defined Security Alliance (IDSA)—gave me the inside scoop on why this event is one you can’t afford to miss.
Our conversation ranges from the critical role of digital identities and payments, to the pressing challenges facing the identity landscape today. Jeff shared insights on the panels he’ll be participating in, like Interoperable Digital Identities and The Future of Payments, giving a preview of the big discussions that will take place at the event.
We even touched on more serious global issues, such as the plight of refugees who lack identification, and how Identity Week is working toward solutions that can have a real impact. On top of that, the SIDI HUB Summit will run alongside the event, focusing on creating a standardized, globally recognized digital identity system.
With Identity Week happening across multiple continents—from the Americas to Europe and Asia—the need for international collaboration has never been clearer. Jeff’s vision for a globally interoperable identity system is ambitious, but the starting point is simple: practical steps like multi-factor authentication and building awareness about identity security.
As we look forward to the event, Jeff also mentioned that there might still be some passes available for those interested in attending. Whether you’re in the public sector, tech, or simply passionate about identity solutions, this event is your chance to get involved in shaping the future.
Stay tuned for more coverage, and thanks for joining me on this pre-event journey as we explore what’s in store at Identity Week Americas.
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SIDI Hub: https://sidi-hub.community/
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Guest: ✨ Dr. Neal Baer, Co-Director, Master's Degree Program in Media, Medicine, and Health, Harvard Medical School
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On Twitter | https://x.com/NealBaer
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On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/nealbaer/
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Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
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Episode Introduction
We live in a time where the boundaries between the physical and virtual worlds are increasingly blurred—a Hybrid Analog-Digital Society. The future isn’t just approaching; it’s already here. In this new age, it’s vital to contemplate our intertwined existence with technology and redefine what society means. This blog post captures the enlightening conversation between Marco Ciappelli and Dr. Neal Baer about the potential and pitfalls of CRISPR, a revolutionary technology reshaping human capability and ethical considerations.
Welcome Message
Marco Ciappelli enthusiastically sets the stage for a deeply engaging discussion:
“Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Redefining Society Podcast. I’m thrilled to have Dr. Neal Baer with me today. We were chatting before the show about my other podcast, Audio Signals, where we discuss storytelling. Today, however, we’re here to explore his book about health, technology, and their societal impact.”
The Intersection of Media and Medicine
Dr. Neal Baer, a multifaceted professional—TV writer, producer, and medical doctor—introduces himself and outlines his diverse career:
“Thank you. It’s really nice to be chatting with you from New York City. I live in Paris and Boston because, in Paris, I work as a TV writer and producer—what’s called a showrunner. I worked on shows like ER and Law & Order: Special Victims Unit for a total of 18 years. I also created the first master’s degree program in media, medicine, and health at Harvard Medical School.”
The Origin of Dr. Baer’s Interest in CRISPR
Dr. Baer shares how his exposure to devastating genetic diseases as a pediatrician sparked his interest in CRISPR:
“As a pediatrician, I encountered terrible diseases like sickle cell disease, adrenal leukodystrophy, and Tay-Sachs. CRISPR represented a beacon of hope for treating these conditions. Our ability to precisely edit genes could transform lives—an endeavor that has now become a reality.”
Demystifying CRISPR
To make CRISPR’s conversation accessible, Marco Ciappelli asks for a simplified explanation:
“CRISPR is essentially a tool that allows us to cut and paste genetic material. Imagine correcting a typo in a word. Similarly, we can correct genetic ‘typos’ that cause diseases. CRISPR uses enzymes like Cas9 to cut the DNA and replace faulty segments with the correct ones.”
Ethical Dilemmas and Societal Consensus
Dr. Baer discusses the ethical and philosophical questions surrounding genetic editing, focusing on access and the broader societal impact:
“CRISPR raises fundamental issues about who benefits from such groundbreaking technology. These questions aren’t just scientific—they talk about ethics and societal values. For example, while sickle cell disease can now be treated using CRISPR, the cost is prohibitive—between two and three million dollars per person. This disparity raises profound questions about equity and accessibility.”
The Urgent Need for Public Discourse
The conversation shifts towards the importance of public awareness and societal dialogue in addressing these ethical dilemmas:
“We need a democratic approach to discussing CRISPR and other advanced technologies. Public awareness is crucial. The challenge lies in making these discussions accessible and engaging to everyone—not just scientists and policymakers.”
The Future Is Now: Embrace or Caution?
As technology continues to evolve, the hosts discuss where to draw the line between embracing new advancements and exercising caution:
“We must learn from past technological advancements—fossil fuels and plastics—which brought unforeseen consequences. With CRISPR and AI, the stakes are even higher. It’s crucial to balance innovation with caution.”
Conclusion
Dr. Baer emphasizes that his book aims to spark a broader conversation, including diverse voices and perspectives:
“The book The Promise and Peril of CRISPR aims to open up the dialogue to everyone—from scientists to philosophers to everyday people. It covers personal stories, philosophical essays, and scientific perspectives to present a comprehensive view of the promise and challenges that CRISPR brings.”
About the Book
A timely collection of essays on the pressing possibilities and risks of gene-editing technology.
Scientists and genetic engineers are becoming increasingly adept at editing the human genome. How far can—and should—they go in editing future generations? In The Promise and Peril of CRISPR, editor Neal Baer brings together a timely collection of essays by influential bioethicists, philosophers, and geneticists to explore the moral, ethical, and policy challenges posed by CRISPR technology.We are at a technological and ethical crossroads in grappling with the impacts of genetic editing. Gene-editing technology holds the promise of curing more than 7,000 known genetic diseases. Yet with that promise comes the peril of using CRISPR to edit the human genome, which could not only lead to manipulating human evolution, but also to creating and releasing pathogens capable of wreaking havoc on human, animal, and plant life. Although CRISPR has already cured several genetic diseases, it could also be used to design biological weapons or to edit the embryos of people who can afford to purchase genetic "enhancements" for their children.
What role can and should the public play in discussing the far-reaching implications of gene editing? What oversights should be put in place to prevent a rogue scientist from engineering another baby – as was recently done with twins in China?
Essay contributors offer informed predictions and guidelines for how the uses of CRISPR today will affect life in the future. Decisions we make now may have unpredictable consequences for future generations. For anyone concerned about the uses and potential abuses of gene editing, these essays provide a critical and comprehensive discussion of the central issues surrounding CRISPR technology.
Contributors: Florence Ashley, R. Alta Charo, Marcy Darnovsky, Kevin Doxzen, Rosemarie Garland-Thomson, Gigi Kwik Gronvall, Jodi Halpern, Katie Hasson, Andrew C. Heinrich, Jacqueline Humphries, J. Benjamin Hurlbut, Ellen D. Jorgensen, Peter F. R. Mills, Carol Padden, Marcus Schultz-Bergin, Robert Sparrow, Sandra Sufian, Krystal Tsosie, Ethan Weiss, Rachel M. West
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Resources
The Promise and Peril of CRISPR: https://press.jhu.edu/books/title/12754/promise-and-peril-crispr
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Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
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Episode Notes
In today's digital era, AI-enhanced phishing attacks are transforming the landscape of cybersecurity. An insightful episode of The Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast features host Sean Martin alongside ITSPmagazine co-founder Marco Ciappelli, and guest Fred Heiding, a research fellow in computer science at Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, and a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School.
Fred Heiding shares updates on the evolution of phishing attacks using AI, highlighting both the technical facets and the societal implications. He explains how advanced language models can now automate the creation of highly realistic phishing emails, making it easier and more cost-effective for attackers to target individuals and organizations.
Heiding discusses the concept of hyper-personalization, where attackers gather granular information about their targets, such as their communication patterns and personal interests, to craft emails that seem authentic and trustworthy. This hyper-personalization poses significant challenges.
Heiding provides an example where attackers mimicked a Black Hat organizer's email, highlighting the precision and timing crucial for successful phishing. The use of open-source language models, which can be adjusted by developers to remove any built-in protections, further exacerbates the issue.
Marco Ciappelli ponders the potential solutions by leveraging AI for defensive strategies. Heiding acknowledges this is an area with promise, particularly in personalized spam filters, yet notes the inherent advantages attackers hold over defenders due to the unpatchable nature of human intuition. Defense mechanisms using AI can marginally enhance current spam filters but face limitations in practicality and widespread adoption because of people's reluctance toward continuous training and complex defense mechanisms.
Sean Martin evaluates the potential of AI in monitoring patterns of human vulnerability over time, which could redefine phishing training by focusing on specific, individualized principles. However, he also stresses the economic aspect, citing that cheaper and more efficient phishing methods increase the attack's scale and frequency, further complicating defensive strategies.
Heiding and Ciappelli both emphasize that while technological advancements provide tools for protection, they also require more personal data to be effective—a trade-off that involves significant privacy concerns. The future of online trust, according to Heiding, appears precarious. As phishing attacks become more sophisticated, the very nature of how people trust digital communications must evolve.
Overall, this episode underscores the critical need for ongoing research and dialogue in cybersecurity, focusing on balancing innovation in defense mechanisms against the ever-advancing sophistication of attacks.
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Harvard Business Review article: https://hbr.org/2024/05/ai-will-increase-the-quantity-and-quality-of-phishing-scams
IEEE Access article: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10466545
BSides presentation: https://bsideslv.org/talks#8WK8P3
Hacking Humans Using LLMs with Fredrik Heiding: Devising and Detecting Phishing: Large Language Models vs. Smaller Human Models | Las Vegas Black Hat 2023 Event Coverage | Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast With Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli: https://redefining-cybersecurity.simplecast.com/episodes/hacking-humans-using-llms-with-fredrik-heiding-devising-and-detecting-phishing-large-language-models-vs-smaller-human-models-las-vegas-black-hat-2023-event-coverage-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli
A Framework for Evaluating National Cybersecurity Strategies | A Black Hat USA 2024 Conversation with Fred Heiding | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli: https://redefining-cybersecurity.simplecast.com/episodes/a-framework-for-evaluating-national-cybersecurity-strategies-a-black-hat-usa-2024-conversation-with-fred-heiding-on-location-coverage-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli
Deep Backdoors in Deep Reinforcement Learning Agents | A Black Hat USA 2024 Conversation with Vas Mavroudis and Jamie Gawith | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli: https://itsprad.io/redefiningcybersecurity-454
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Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
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Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
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Episode Notes
In this episode of "On Location With Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli," our hosts dive into their time at Black Hat 2024 in Las Vegas, reflecting on key takeaways and sharing what’s next on their journey. Whether you're deep into cybersecurity or just curious about the industry, this blog post offers a snapshot of what to expect from Sean and Marco.
Recapping Black Hat 2024
Marco Ciappelli
Choo, choo . . .
Sean Martin
Is that the sound of the fast train back from Vegas? Or just the rush of everything we experienced?Marco Ciappelli
I'm still wondering why there's no train from LA to Vegas. And don't get me started on LA to San Francisco—that's another conversation entirely.The conversation kicks off with a lighthearted nod to travel woes before shifting to the core of the episode: their reflections on Black Hat 2024. Sean and Marco bring unique perspectives, emphasizing the importance of thinking beyond cybersecurity's technical aspects to consider its broader impact on society and business.
Sean's Operational Insights
Sean Martin
I like to look at things from an operational angle—how can we take what we learn and bring it back to the business to help leaders and practitioners do what they love?Sean’s Black Hat 2024 Recap Newsletter explores the evolution from reactive data responses to strategic enablement, AI and automation, modular cybersecurity, and the invaluable role of human insights. His focus is clear: helping businesses become more resilient and adaptable through smarter cybersecurity practices.
Marco's Societal Impact
Marco Ciappelli
Cybersecurity isn’t a destination—it’s a journey. We’re never going to be fully secure, and that’s okay. Cultures change, technology evolves, and we have to keep adapting.Marco’s take highlights the societal implications of cybersecurity. He talk about how different fields and nations are breaking down silos to collaborate more effectively. His newsletter often reflects on the need for digital literacy across business, society, and education, emphasizing the importance of broadening our understanding of technology’s role.
Upcoming Events and Conferences
CyberTech New York (September 2024): Focused on policy, innovation, SecOps, AppSec, and sustainability.OWASP AppSec San Francisco (September 2024): Covering the OWASP Top 10 for LLMs and more.Sector in Toronto (October 2024): Offering unique coverage ideas, closely tied to Black Hat.Did someone said that they will be back covering an APJ event, in Melbourne, before the end of the year???
The duo is excited about their packed schedule for the rest of 2024 and beyond, including:
Additional Ventures
They’ll also be hosting innovation panels and keynotes at a company event in New Orleans, with CES in Las Vegas and VivaTech in Paris on the horizon for 2025, blending B2B startup insights with consumer tech, all with a cybersecurity twist.Subscribe and Stay Tuned
Marco and Sean invite you to subscribe to their newsletters and follow their podcast, "On Location," as they continue their journey around the globe—both physically and virtually—bringing fresh perspectives on business, technology, and cybersecurity. You’ll also find unique "brand stories" that highlight innovations making our world safer and more sustainable.Stay connected, enjoy the ride, and don’t forget to subscribe to both their newsletters and the "On Location" podcast on YouTube!
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My Reflections from ITSPmagazine’s Black Hat USA 2024 Coverage: The State of Cybersecurity and Its Societal Impact
Prologue
Each year, Black Hat serves as a critical touchpoint for the cybersecurity industry—a gathering that offers unparalleled insights into the latest threats, technologies, and strategies that define our collective defense efforts. Established in 1997, Black Hat has grown from a single conference in Las Vegas to a global series of events held in cities like Barcelona, London, and Riyadh. The conference brings together a diverse audience, from hackers and security professionals to executives and non-technical individuals, all united by a shared interest in information security.
What sets Black Hat apart is its unique blend of cutting-edge research, hands-on training, and open dialogue between the many stakeholders in the cybersecurity ecosystem. It's a place where corporations, government agencies, and independent researchers converge to exchange ideas and push the boundaries of what's possible in securing our digital world. As the cybersecurity landscape continues to evolve, Black Hat remains a vital forum for addressing the challenges and opportunities that come with it.
Sean and I engaged in thought-provoking conversations with 27 industry leaders during our coverage of Black Hat USA 2024 in Las Vegas, where the intersection of society and technology was at the forefront. These discussions underscored the urgent need to integrate cybersecurity deeply into our societal framework, not just within business operations. As our digital world grows more complex, the conversations revealed a collective understanding that the true challenge lies in transforming these strategic insights into actions that shape a safer and more resilient society, while also recognizing the changes in how society must adapt to the demands of advancing technology.
As I walked through the bustling halls of Black Hat 2024, I was struck by the sheer dynamism of the cybersecurity landscape. The conversations, presentations, and cutting-edge technologies on display painted a vivid picture of where we stand today in our ongoing battle to secure the digital world. More than just a conference, Black Hat serves as a barometer for the state of cybersecurity—a reflection of our collective efforts to protect the systems that have become so integral to our daily lives.
The Constant Evolution of Threats
One of the most striking observations from Black Hat 2024 is the relentless pace at which cyber threats are evolving. Every year, the threat landscape becomes more complex, with attackers finding new ways to exploit vulnerabilities in areas that were once considered secure. This year, it became evident that even the most advanced security measures can be circumvented if organizations become complacent. The need for continuous vigilance, constant updating of security protocols, and a proactive approach to threat detection has never been more critical.
The discussions at Black Hat reinforced the idea that we are in a perpetual arms race with cybercriminals. They adapt quickly, leveraging emerging technologies to refine their tactics and launch increasingly sophisticated attacks. As defenders, we must be equally agile, continuously learning and evolving our strategies to stay one step ahead.
Integration and Collaboration: Breaking Down Silos
Another key theme at Black Hat 2024 was the importance of breaking down silos within organizations. In an increasingly interconnected world, isolated security measures are no longer sufficient. The traditional boundaries between different teams—whether they be development, operations, or security—are blurring. To effectively combat modern threats, there needs to be seamless integration and collaboration across all departments.
This holistic approach to cybersecurity is not just about technology; it’s about fostering a culture of communication and cooperation. By aligning the goals and efforts of various teams, organizations can create a unified front against cyber threats. This not only enhances security but also improves efficiency and resilience, allowing for quicker responses to incidents and a more robust defense posture.
The Dual Role of AI in Cybersecurity
Artificial Intelligence (AI) was a major focus at this year’s event, and for good reason. AI has the potential to revolutionize cybersecurity, offering new tools and capabilities for threat detection, response, and prevention. However, it also introduces new challenges and risks. As AI systems become more prevalent, they themselves become targets for exploitation. This dual role of AI—both as a tool and a target—was a hot topic of discussion.
The consensus at Black Hat was clear: while AI can significantly enhance our ability to protect against threats, we must also be vigilant in securing AI systems themselves. This requires a deep understanding of how these systems operate and where they may be vulnerable. It’s a reminder that every technological advancement comes with its own set of risks, and it’s our responsibility to anticipate and mitigate those risks as best we can.
Empowering Users and Enhancing Digital Literacy
A recurring theme throughout Black Hat 2024 was the need to empower users—not just those in IT or security roles, but everyone who interacts with digital systems. In today’s world, cybersecurity is everyone’s responsibility. However, many users still lack the knowledge or tools to protect themselves effectively.
One of the key takeaways from the event is the importance of enhancing digital literacy. Users must be equipped with the skills and understanding necessary to navigate the digital landscape safely. This goes beyond just knowing how to avoid phishing scams or create strong passwords; it’s about fostering a deeper awareness of the risks inherent in our digital lives and how to manage them.
Education and awareness campaigns are crucial, but they must be supported by user-friendly security tools that make it easier for people to protect themselves. The goal is to create a security environment where the average user is both informed and empowered, reducing the likelihood of human error and strengthening the overall security posture.
A Call for Continuous Improvement
If there’s one thing that Black Hat 2024 made abundantly clear, it’s that cybersecurity is a journey, not a destination. The landscape is constantly shifting, and what works today may not be sufficient tomorrow. This requires a commitment to continuous improvement—both in terms of technology and strategy.
Organizations must foster a culture of learning, where staying informed about the latest threats and security practices is a priority. This means not only investing in the latest tools and technologies but also in the people who use them. Training, upskilling, and encouraging a mindset of curiosity and adaptability are all essential components of a successful cybersecurity strategy.
Looking Ahead: The Future of Cybersecurity
As I reflect on the insights and discussions from Black Hat 2024, I’m reminded of the critical role cybersecurity plays in our society. It’s not just about protecting data or systems; it’s about safeguarding the trust that underpins our digital world. As we look to the future, it’s clear that cybersecurity will continue to be a central concern—not just for businesses and governments, but for individuals and communities as well.
The challenges we face are significant, but so are the opportunities. By embracing innovation, fostering collaboration, and empowering users, we can build a more secure digital future. It’s a future where technology serves humanity, where security is an enabler rather than a barrier, and where we can navigate the complexities of the digital age with confidence.
Black Hat 2024 was a powerful reminder of the importance of this work. It’s a challenge that requires all of us—security professionals, technologists, and everyday users—to play our part. Together, we can meet the challenges of today and prepare for the threats of tomorrow, ensuring that our digital future is one we can all trust and thrive in.
The End ...of this story.
This piece of writing represents the peculiar results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.
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Marco Ciappelli is the host of the Redefining Society Podcast, part of the ITSPmagazine Podcast Network—which he co-founded with his good friend Sean Martin—where you may just find some of these topics being discussed. You can also learn more about Marco on his personal website: marcociappelli.com
TAPE3, which is me, is the Artificial Intelligence for ITSPmagazine, created to function as a guide, writing assistant, researcher, and brainstorming partner to those who adventure at and beyond the Intersection Of Technology, Cybersecurity, And Society.
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Guests:
L Jean Camp, Professor, Luddy School of Computing, Informatics, and Engineering, Indiana University [@IUBloomington]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljean/
At BlackHat | https://www.blackhat.com/us-24/briefings/schedule/speakers.html#l-jean-camp-37968
Dalya Manatova, Associate Instructor/Ph.D. Student, Luddy School of Computing, Informatics, and Engineering, Indiana University [@IUBloomington]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/dalyapraz/
At BlackHat | https://www.blackhat.com/us-24/briefings/schedule/speakers.html#dalya-manatova-48133
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Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
In this Chats on the Road episode of the On Location with Sean and Marco podcast series, hosts Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli engage in an insightful conversation about the intricacies of modern cybercrime, specifically focusing on ransomware gangs. The discussion revolves around the research conducted by their guests, L Jean Camp, a scholar specializing in the economics of security and privacy, and Dalya Manatova, a PhD student studying security informatics and the organizational social dynamics of e-crime.
The episode explores how ransomware gangs, such as the notorious Conti group, operate much like legitimate businesses. These criminal organizations exhibit structured hierarchies, recruit testers who may not even realize they are part of an illegal operation, and employ professional negotiation tactics with their victims. The guests emphasize that the threat posed by these gangs is often misunderstood; rather than facing advanced government operations, most individuals and organizations are dealing with commoditized cyber-attacks that follow business-like procedures.
Jean and Dalya share intriguing details about their methodology, including the linguistic and discourse analyses used to map out the relationships and organizational structures within these criminal groups. These analyses reveal the complexities and resilience of the organizations, shedding light on how they maintain operational efficiency and manage internal communications. For instance, the researchers discuss the use of jargon like “cat” to refer to crypto wallets, a nuance that highlights the challenges of interpreting cybercriminal chatter.
Additionally, the conversation touches on the implications of these findings for cybersecurity practices and the broader business landscape. Jean notes the importance of information sharing and understanding the flow of chatter within and between criminal organizations. This awareness can empower defenders by providing them with better tools and methods to anticipate and counteract these threats.
Overall, the episode provides a comprehensive look at the sophisticated nature of ransomware gangs and the importance of interdisciplinary research in understanding and combating cybercrime. The session mentioned in the episode, "Relationships Matter: Reconstructing the Organizational and Social Structure of a Ransomware Gang," is slated for Wednesday, August 7th at Black Hat, promising to offer more extensive insights into this critical issue.
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Relationships Matter: Reconstructing the Organizational and Social Structure of a Ransomware Gang: https://www.blackhat.com/us-24/briefings/schedule/#relationships-matter-reconstructing-the-organizational-and-social-structure-of-a-ransomware-gang-39725
An Argument for Linguistic Expertise in Cyberthreat Analysis: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/372244795_An_Argument_for_Linguistic_Expertise_in_Cyberthreat_Analysis_LOLSec_in_Russian_Language_eCrime_Landscape
Building and Testing a Network of Social Trust in an Underground Forum: Robust Connections and Overlapping Criminal Domains: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371353386_Building_and_Testing_a_Network_of_Social_Trust_in_an_Underground_Forum_Robust_Connections_and_Overlapping_Criminal_Domains
Usable Security Lab: https://usablesecurity.net/
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Guest: Jason Healey, Senior Research Scholar, Cyber Conflict Studies, SIPA at Columbia University [@Columbia]
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At BlackHat: https://www.blackhat.com/us-24/briefings/schedule/speakers.html#jason-healey-31682
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Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Opening Remarks:
Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli set the stage with their signature banter, creating an inviting atmosphere for a deep dive into cybersecurity. Marco introduces a philosophical question about measuring success and improvement in the field, leading seamlessly into their conversation with Jason Healey.
Meet the Expert:
Sean introduces Jason Healey, a senior research scholar at Columbia University and a former military cybersecurity leader with extensive experience, including roles at the Pentagon and the White House. Jason shares his excitement for Black Hat 2024 and the anniversary celebrations of ITSPmagazine, expressing anticipation for the discussions ahead.
The Role of Defense in Cybersecurity:
Jason previews his journey from military service to academia, posing the critical question, “Is defense winning?” He provides a historical perspective, noting that cybersecurity challenges have been present for decades. Despite significant investments and efforts, attackers often seem to maintain an edge. This preview sets the stage for a deeper exploration of how to measure success in defense, which he plans to address in detail at the conference.
Shifting the Balance:
Jason highlights the need for a comprehensive framework to evaluate the effectiveness of defense mechanisms. He introduces the concept of metrics like “mean time to detect,” suggesting that these can help gauge progress over time. Jason plans to discuss the importance of understanding system-wide dynamics at Black Hat, emphasizing that cybersecurity is about continual improvement rather than quick fixes.
Economic Costs and Broader Impacts:
Sean shifts the discussion to the economic aspects of cybersecurity, a topic Jason is set to explore further at the event. Jason notes that while financial implications are substantial, other indicators, such as the frequency of states declaring emergencies due to cyber incidents, provide a broader view of the impact. He underscores the need to address disparities in cybersecurity protection, pointing out that not everyone has access to the same level of defense capabilities.
Community and Collaboration:
Marco and Jason discuss the importance of community involvement in improving cybersecurity. Jason stresses the value of shared metrics and continuous data analysis, calling for collective efforts to build a robust defense against evolving threats. This theme of collaboration will be a key focus in his upcoming session.
Looking Forward:
As they wrap up, Sean and Marco express their anticipation for Jason’s session at Black Hat 2024. They encourage the audience to join in, engage with the topics discussed, and contribute to the ongoing conversation on cybersecurity.
Conclusion:
Sean concludes by thanking Jason for his insights and highlighting the importance of the upcoming Black Hat sessions. He invites listeners to follow ITSPmagazine's coverage for more expert discussions and insights into the field of cybersecurity.
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