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  • The essence of leadership is more than just steering a ship; it's weathering storms, fostering resilience, and nurturing company culture. This week, Ana Hory, a seasoned advisor, board director, and executive renowned for her strategic risk-taking and entrepreneurial acumen, joins Bonnie.

    Get ready to dive in and discover how Ana's strategic vision transformed the Polly Pocket brand into a Brazilian sensation by understanding the market's unique needs and how deciding to remove a team member whose influence was hindering team dynamics became a pivotal moment in her career. Ana also gets candid about resetting and rebuilding, sharing the emotional toll of layoffs and offering practical advice for bouncing back stronger than ever. Tune in now to hear Ana's recipe for success and the decisions that can pave the way for a bright and prosperous future. Key points include:

    Career highlights: Launching Polly Pocket in Brazil, elevating it to the second-largest market outside of the US Rescuing company culture with the power of coffee walks, talks, and listening Culture fit: How removing a negative element can spark overnight transformation CEO Insights: The crucial lesson learned a little too late Transforming consumer experiences through product management Surviving storms: Navigating transitions in life and finding new opportunities Tackling hardship: Ana's advice for overcoming life obstacles

    "I always ask, is there anything you would have done differently from when you started as a CEO? And I kid you not, 100% of the time, they tell me, I wish I had let go of the wrong people sooner." – Ana Hory.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Ana Hory:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/anahory/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Best-selling author and three-time TEDx speaker Ron Carucci joins us this week to unveil the blueprint for authentic leadership. As proud co-founder and managing director of Navalent and a visionary in the realms of leadership and organizational change, Ron reveals his transformative journey from working in Europe to becoming a celebrated consultant and author.

    In this episode, Ron brings to the table nearly four decades of experience in guiding top executives and organizations through significant change. He offers practical strategies and real-world examples that illustrate the importance of honesty, the challenges of mentorship, embracing failures and the courage it takes to lead with integrity. Key points include:

    An accidental entrepreneur pursuing a passion beyond organizational boundaries

    Unveiling heroes: Stories of inspirational leadership worth writing about

    Dual Roles: Navigating five years of grueling challenges

    Key business advice: Wisdom and warnings for career starters

    Learning from Failure: Embracing setbacks for personal growth

    Perception: Challenging the truths within our minds

    "I had a terrifying thought. Could we have found four fundamental principles about how to shape a culture that nobody's doing? Because that would suck. So I had to find out if anybody was living out what we learned or if they were only living in the dark side of it." – Ron Carucci.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader. 

    Resources:

    To Be Honest by Ron Carucci

    https://tobehonest.net/

    Get connected socially with Ron Carucci:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/roncarucci/

    https://www.navalent.com/

    Get connected socially with host Dave Komar:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/davekomar/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

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  • Get ready to dive into the heart of effective leadership through the eyes of Seth Stein, CEO of Eastridge Workforce Solutions and champion of servant leadership. In this episode, we explore Seth's unexpected professional ascent from an eager young worker to the helm of a thriving, employee-owned enterprise. Throughout the discussion, Seth reveals the trials and triumphs of being CEO amidst the tumultuous times of 2020, highlighting the significance of transparency, sincerity, and a robust, high-performance culture. Delving into the emotional depths of crisis management, Seth unpacks the emotional burdens that many leaders shoulder. Seth also generously shares his indispensable leadership toolkit, ensuring leaders are equipped for success. Trust us when we say you won't want to miss it! Further key points throughout include:

    An unconventional path to success: The journey from eager learner to visionary leader

    CEO Challenges: Unveiling the true tests of leadership

    Leading with heart: Navigating the weight of employee departures and personal accountability

    Lessons learned from embracing mistakes, parental guidance, and mentorship

    Words of wisdom: Seth's advice for navigating leadership challenges

    The essential leadership toolkit for cultivating a thriving culture

    "This is an unusual environment that we're living in. You'll be misunderstood and won't always have the opportunity to defend yourself. So it comes back to values, purpose, and your moral compass, which is that I have a point of view and values and have to stick to that. I have to do the best for the most. And it won't always work out for everybody." – Seth Stein.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Resources:

    Leading at a Higher Level by Ken Blanchard

    https://resources.blanchard.com/ebooks/leading-at-a-higher-level

    Get connected socially with Seth Stein:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethstein/

    https://www.eastridge.com/

    Get connected socially with host Dave Komar:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/davekomar/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • When Alan White speaks about the intersection of human connection and leadership, you can't help but be drawn into his world-view, one honed from the streets of Belfast to the boardrooms of Oklahoma. Alan, who is Sr. Director of IT at Dolese Bros, is an exceptional mind in the world of technology and leadership, offers profound insights into the often overlooked emotional landscape of tech industry leaders. His candid discussions about the role of vulnerability in forming durable bonds and the forward-thinking strategies necessary for technological evolution are enlightening for anyone curious about the human side of innovation.

    During our exchange, Alan doesn't shy away from the complexities of leadership and recruitment in tech, illuminating the path to integrating a diverse array of professionals into this dynamic field. He champions the importance of blending creativity with logic, and shares a personal narrative that underscores his commitment to gender equality in the tech space. This episode is more than a mere conversation; it's an expedition through the heart and mind of a leader who dares to think differently about the synergy between people and technology—inviting us all to consider the fabric of our own professional environments and the diverse threads that can lead to groundbreaking achievements.Further key points throughout include:

    Learn why Alan left Belfast and ended up leading teams in Oklahoma.

    Discover Alan White's insights on empathetic leadership and tech innovation.

    Learn how vulnerability plays a key role in tech leadership.

    Understand how diverse backgrounds drive innovation in tech.

    Explore Alan White's commitment to gender equality in tech.

    Learn about the challenges of future tech planning.

    Get insights on balancing creativity, cost, and viability in tech.

    Understand the need to focus on potential and adaptability in tech recruitment.

    "Nothing else will have as big an impact on your leadership journey as really the power of human connection, and that's really tied to the power of vulnerability. It may seem very Brene Brown and cringy to sort of lean into that vulnerability, but, man, it is truly game-changing." - Alan White

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Alan White:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-white-13ba8446/

    Learn more about Dolese Bros:
    https://www.dolese.com/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    Purchase Leading With Vision: The Leader's Blueprint for Creating a Compelling Vision and Engaging the Workforce:

    https://www.amazon.com/Leading-Vision-Blueprint-Compelling-Workforce/dp/1473696062

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Leaders often have to make decisions in complicated times. But how do you guide yourself in those moments, and how do you trust your intuition? Tune into this latest Real Life Real Leaders episode to hear the leadership success story of Heidi Zuckerman, former CEO of the Aspen Art Museum and current CEO of the Orange County Museum of Art.

    Heidi Zuckerman's journey as a leader in the art world is a testament to the power of determination, resilience, and embracing the unexpected. From her early days as a summer gallery assistant to successfully raising over $130 million for the Aspen Art Museum, Zuckerman's story offers valuable insights for leaders across industries. By trusting her intuition, embracing setbacks, and acting from a place of truth, Zuckerman has left an indelible mark on the art world and continues to inspire others to pursue their passions with unwavering dedication. Further key points throughout include:

    The road to becoming CEO of the Aspen Art Museum

    Career growth: Shifting into the role of leadership

    The importance of tailoring your communication styles

    The goal of connecting people with art

    Overcoming professional setbacks and fighting to win public votes

    The value of listening with 'big ears' and the 24-hour rule

    Why building trust is crucial for business

    I'm really big on listening and listening with as you were talking about life in the work scenario, listening with big ears, but listening to my intuition. And one of the things that I've really gotten good at is being able to be quiet. And that happens for me through meditation. It happens to me in the shower. It happens to me in nature. And I've really been able to devise a lot of ways in my life.” – Heidi Zuckerman

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Heidi Zuckerman:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

    About Art Podcast:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/about-art/id1493074491

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    Purchase Leading With Vision: The Leader's Blueprint for Creating a Compelling Vision and Engaging the Workforce:

    https://www.amazon.com/Leading-Vision-Blueprint-Compelling-Workforce/dp/1473696062

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Discover the transformative power of aligning your career with your core values as Davin Salvano, founder of Purpose Point and The Purpose Summit, discusses the essence of purposeful leadership. This episode reveals the depth of recognizing individuals for who they are beyond their roles, the profound influence of mentorship, and the never-ending journey of learning that defines true leadership. Davin's personal stories underscore the fulfillment and effectiveness of living and working in unity with one's fundamental beliefs.

    As leaders, steering an organization through tumultuous times is a testament to our commitment to our values and mission. Davin explores the resilience required when faced with adversity, how our choices—not our circumstances—shape who we are, and why standing by our principles, even in the face of discomfort, is the hallmark of authentic leadership. Whether you're a job seeker evaluating potential employers or an executive aiming to maintain a thriving culture, this discussion provides a compass for navigating the complexities of organizational alignment and the courage needed to persist with integrity when it matters most. Further key points throughout include:

    Rediscovering the founding purpose in organizations

    The value of observing employees and workplace interactions

    Leading during difficult times and staying true to your values

    The impact of leadership and creating lasting memories

    The importance of investing in your people and organizational culture

    "I think we often feel that leaders have to put on a smiley face and a facade at all times and be the perpetual motivator. But the reality is that all leadership is tested in adversity." Davin Salvagno.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Davin Salvagno:

    https://www.davinsalvagno.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/salvagno/

    https://www.purposepoint.com/events

    Purchase Davin’s Book: Finding Purpose at Work on Amazon

    Get connected socially with host host Dave Komar:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/davekomar/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    Purchase Leading With Vision: The Leader's Blueprint for Creating a Compelling Vision and Engaging the Workforce:

    https://www.amazon.com/Leading-Vision-Blueprint-Compelling-Workforce/dp/1473696062

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Embark on an exhilarating odyssey with Jocelyn Martin-Leano, Enizio Strategies' trailblazing President & CEO, as we unpack her extraordinary story. From arriving in the U.S. with barely a suitcase to her ascension in the mortgage banking sector, Jocelyn's narrative is a profound display of the tenacity and vision that reshapes industries. She peels back the layers of her transition from engineering to finance, revealing an underlying dedication to people management and authentic leadership that marks the evolving realm of women in business.

    Our conversation gets to the heart of what it means to be truly present and the enduring impact of leaving a legacy of strength and moral values. As a mother and professional, Jocelyn addresses the tug-of-war between career and family, offering a candid look at the importance of self-forgiveness and the support networks that are essential for high-achieving women. She eloquently makes the case for the unique insights women bring to corporate leadership, ushering in transformative perspectives in the boardroom and beyond.

    Key learnings from this episode:

    Discover how Jocelyn Martin-Leano climbed the ranks from immigrant to president of Rushmore Servicing Division, defying odds in a male-dominated industry. Gain insights into Jocelyn's powerful transition from engineering to finance and how her passion for people management shaped her leadership style. Learn how personal tragedy and the COVID-19 pandemic taught Jocelyn the importance of resilience and being present, offering a new perspective on life's challenges. Mother's guilt and finding balance between professional success and family life, sharing wisdom for ambitious women in the workforce. Be inspired by Jocelyn's advice to young professionals on the value of hope, preparation, and the courage to embrace the unknown in your career journey. Explore the transformative experience of Harvard Business School's Advanced Management Program with Jocelyn and how continuous learning can impact your corporate trajectory.

    "Never give up hope. Cling on to hope at the darkest hour and you just never let go. Because in the end, what you leave behind is that legacy of hope." - Jocelyn Martin-Leano

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with host Jocelyn Martin-Leano

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocelynmartinleano
    https://www.eniziostrategies.llc/

    Learn about the Harvard Business School Management Program

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

  • Walk alongside Lieutenant General Steve M. Speakes as he shares an odyssey of leadership that transcends the divide between military prowess and corporate finesse.

    On today’s episode, we're honored to have Steve open up about his remarkable journey, from commanding armored cavalry to steering the ship in the boardroom. His tales not only encapsulate the essence of adaptability but also the unwavering tenacity necessary for leadership at the highest levels. As we explore his strategic milestones, including the formidable task of deploying 30,000 troops into Iraq and masterminding operations in Kuwait, Steve offers a living blueprint for leadership that resonates in any arena.

    Imagine navigating the complex terrain that lies between the regimented world of military hierarchy and the dynamic, feedback-rich corporate landscape. This episode delves into exactly that, as Steve recounts the learning curves and challenges encountered along his transition to civilian leadership roles. You'll gain insights into the importance of inclusive decision-making, the value of a more elastic organizational structure, and the art of knowing when to act and when to trust your team to resolve issues autonomously. The discussion encompasses a wealth of wisdom on balancing assertiveness with patience, providing a compass for those who aspire to lead with precision and insight. Key highlights include:

    How does a military leader reshape their approach for the corporate world?

    From coordinating massive troop movements to navigating corporate. transformations.

    Crucial lessons of resilience and clear communication under pressure.

    how humility and accountability play pivotal roles in leading successful teams.

    How feedback loops and organizational fluidity shape decision-making in the business.

    What shapes a leader’s legacy?

    "The ability to take on a really interesting group of men who crewed tanks at that era, deal with post-Vietnam Army, learn how to lead in that very complex environment and then to grow in experience and in depth over 35 years, enabled me to move from a tank platoon up all the way to the Army level."- Stephen M. Speaks

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Steve Speakes:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-m-steve-speakes-8505ba24/

    Get connected socially with host Dave Komar:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/davekomar/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    Purchase Leading With Vision: The Leader's Blueprint for Creating a Compelling Vision and Engaging the Workforce:

    https://www.amazon.com/Leading-Vision-Blueprint-Compelling-Workforce/dp/1473696062

  • Ever wondered how a woman has risen through the ranks to become the global head of HR for a company as prestigious as Nespresso? Well, you're in for a treat as we invite you to join our discussion with none other than Valerie Robert, the global head of HR for Nespresso. Valerie offers a rare glimpse into the strategic world of HR that many of us don't get to see. She shares her journey, from managing people in manufacturing plants to leading a global team of 14,000, and reveals the valuable lessons she learnt along the way. Valerie discusses the importance of being a business person, the power of resilience and support systems, and the need to make conscious choices to maintain work-life integration. Valerie's career journey is a powerful reminder that success is possible with the right mindset and support. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Valerie Robert

    An insight into the Nespresso culture and identifying organizational behaviours

    Overcoming the most difficult times in business and mastering the art of adaption to change

    Creating rituals: striking a balance between work and family

    The power of authenticity, being courageous and embracing mistakes

    Shape your thinking and own your voice

    Valerie's advice for women in business

    "I always try to step back and say, did anybody die today? No. Okay, so we made a mistake. Fair enough. Have we learned anything? Yes. So let's move on. I don't try to be a perfectionist. That's not the real world." Valerie Robert.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Valerie Robert:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerierobert1

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • From parking cars to presiding over Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom, Dan Cockerell's journey is nothing short of inspiring. In this episode, Dan transports us into his world, offering unique insights of his ascent to Disney's top echelons of leadership and how he now applies those lessons at the Cockerell Consulting Group.

    As Dan puts it, life can be a juggling act between personal challenges, career ambitions, and familial obligations. Drawing strength from his grandfather's wisdom, he shares his recipe for balance and resilience. His message is clear - it's okay to prioritize yourself, to persevere through failures, and to keep striving for success. His refreshing take on leadership is not just about excelling in the workplace but also about navigating life's turbulences, making this episode a must-listen for those looking for the motivation to keep moving forward. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Dan Cockerell

    Becoming a leader at Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom

    The value of relationships, consistency and being present in the moment

    Learnings from managing Disney's All Star Resort

    An insight into Dan's top three priorities in life

    Drawing inspiration and motivation from role models

    "For a lot of days, we feel like failures where we can't get to everything we need to get to. We can't get there, and we're not making any progress, and we're not making traction. So I concluded to give yourself a break, do your best, and then get a little bit better tomorrow." Dan Cockerell.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Dan Cockerell:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dancockerell/

    https://dancockerell.com/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Have you ever questioned the strength of your career backbone? Prepare to fortify it as we traverse the professional journey of Suzanna De Baca, a trailblazing CEO, board director and author. This episode peels back the layers of the challenges many women face in the workplace. We learn of Suzanna's experience reporting fraud within a company and enduring backlash to making radical career changes. Suzanna's story is a compelling testament to resilience and embracing discomfort. Her insights on navigating obstacles, harnessing fear, and learning from failure offer valuable lessons for anyone seeking personal and professional growth. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Suzanna de Baca

    Do women often underestimate their skills?

    Making radical career changes and adapting to different industries

    Overcoming obstacles: The backlash of reporting fraud

    Being a whistleblower and deciding to quit a job without a safety net

    Turning tough times into new beginnings

    The challenges of building and running a business

    Living in alignment with your own north star and values

    Advice for women on becoming comfortable with facing fear and taking risks

    "I just quit a job without any safety net or anything. I just walked away. And I reinvented my entire life after that. But it was one of those dark moments where I thought, have I ruined my entire career? How can I climb out of this?." Suzanna De Baca.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Suzanna de Baca:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzannadebaca/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Do you have small-town roots but big dreams? Are you ready to shake up your career but struggle to overcome obstacles? This week's special guest is the awe-inspiring Patricia Fortier. Born in a small town in Manitoba, Patricia's dreams were far from small. Her journey took her to the Foreign Service to the board of a Canadian Green Tech company.

    This episode reaches far beyond career transitions as Patricia takes listeners on a remarkable journey of leadership, loss, and reflection. Patricia delves into personal growth and resilience in facing life's biggest challenges, including navigating her husband's ALS diagnosis and her own battle with cancer. Patricia shares the invaluable life lessons learned, the importance of support systems, and how these experiences have shifted her perspective on life. Patricia's story offers valuable insights into resilience and the pursuit of purpose. It inspires listeners to reevaluate their priorities, embrace life's fleeting beauty, and find strength in the face of adversity. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Patricia Fortier

    Career steppingstones and navigating the 9/11 aftermath

    Professional highlights: promoting a referendum in the Dominican Republic

    Coping with health events and making the decision to retire

    The power of a support system network

    A silver lining to the Covid-19 global pandemic

    Advice for leaders navigating through difficult times

    "Sometimes you just have to take a decision that will change your life, or somebody else's life. And so I took a decision." Patricia Fortier.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Patricia Fortier:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricia-fortier-7447b790

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Are you currently feeling overwhelmed and exhausted? For many, success can often lead to burnout, and in this episode, renowned executive coach and author Joelle Jay shares her expert insights on overcoming burnout and finding personal fulfilment. With impressive experience coaching high-level leaders, Joelle emphasizes the importance of stepping back to evaluate one's well-being and finding ways to do things that work for you. Joelle offers practical tools and advice for intentional and strategic vision-setting and highlights the crucial role of seeking support when feeling overwhelmed. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Joelle Jay It's okay to permit yourself to follow your heart The road to coaching and becoming an expert in reflection The stages of burnout, overwhelm and disengagement The common theme amongst high achievers Finding a life-line transformation model The benefits of having a strong support system The importance of deep reflection, journaling and acknowledging successes From low to thriving: advice for regaining your happiness

    "Executive Coaching gives people the opportunity to slow down and think about what they're doing, to choose their vision, to pursue their vision and to think about their own life." – Joelle Jay.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Joelle Jay:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joellekjay/

    https://www.joellekjay.com/

    https://www.joellekjay.com/books-articles-2/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • We all face adversity, whether it's hitting the glass ceiling, dealing with difficult times, or navigating the corporate world. But how can we learn the lessons needed to overcome these struggles? Hear from Roberta Sydney, a successful leader with experience spanning multiple industries and roles. Roberta shares how she faced challenges head-on and learned the lessons needed to succeed.

    Roberta delves into the importance of understanding company culture and fit, toning down one's words as a CEO, being a cheerleader for employees, and taking care of oneself during difficult times. Roberta also discusses her career arcs and the challenges she's faced as a young female in financial services, as well as the potential of millennials in the workplace. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Roberta Sydney and the three arcs of her career Hitting a glass ceiling in financial services Making the decision to sell your business Overcoming business issues and family issues The 18-month experiment that transitioned into 18 years The biggest lessons learned from Corporate America Leadership strategies and the importance of company culture The importance of maintaining personal care routines during times of hardship

    "I felt very strongly in running a real estate operation that everybody felt responsible for the profitability of the company. And I realized that in order to really make that tangible for people, they needed to see that their ideas and suggestions were received and acted upon." – Roberta Sydney.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Roberta Sydney:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertasydney/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • "What if I fail?" but what if you fly? Rebecca Goldman is the epitome of a real-life real leader. In this episode, Bonnie sits down with Rebecca to discuss her heartwarming and motivating story of strength and resilience, from navigating a cyanide poisoning response team at Johnson and Johnson's Migno Consumer Products division to fighting for her son's right to be included in a regular classroom, to becoming General Counsel of Optimus.

    Rebecca's journey is one of courage and determination, fighting against the odds and coming out on top. Rebecca shares her personal and professional challenges and unpacks her determination and resilience in fighting for her son's education and her passion for training lawyers and breaking down borders within a business to succeed. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Rebecca Goldman Navigating big moves and career transitions Coming to terms with an autism diagnosis in your child and fighting for inclusion The journey to becoming a paralegal and nurturing and building a global team of lawyers The importance of having fun at work The characteristics that will carry you through challenging times Why you shouldn't miss the opportunity to get input from others

    "Take the risk. If you have sufficient confidence in your ability, it's all going to work out well." – Rebecca Goldman.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

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    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Are you ready to reach the top with radical acceptance? Here to inspire you to navigate the complex world of leadership and diversity is special guest Joanna Massey, a successful female leader and CEO. Joanna shares her experiences navigating challenges in the media industry and the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Joanna discusses unconscious bias and the amygdala hijack and how they affect individuals and organizations. She also opens up about her personal experiences of facing rumors and imposter syndrome as a woman in a male-dominated industry and the support systems that helped her overcome those challenges. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Joanna Massey

    The brain process that protects us and the stressors that can set off an amygdala hijack

    How ambition and drive are key to climbing the corporate ladder

    Overcoming challenges and facing false accusation's in the workplace

    Generational differences in the workplace and the pretence of masculinity

    Women in business: how women can uplift and support one another

    The reality of working in a disruptive sector

    Radical acceptance: surrendering to life's terms

    Becoming the Queen of Pivoting and three key pieces of advice to pivot

    The silver lining to the COVID-19 pandemic

    "When you're in between places where you think you ought to be or in between comfort zones and the radical acceptance to total surrender to life on life's terms, just let it flow the way it's going to flow. It's like being on a roller coaster ride and letting go at the top." Joanna Massey.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Joanna Massey:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannadoddmassey/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Are you overdue for a career change? Is fear holding you back from where you want to be? We sit down with Patricia Hurter, CEO of biotech companies Lyndra and LogicBio Therapeutics, to discuss her journey from South Africa to the forefront of biotechnology and how her companies are transforming the future of medicine. Patricia shares her insights on taking risks, embracing change, and finding balance outside of work through her passion. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Patricia Hurter: growing up in South Africa and the journey to America

    Transitioning into retirement and handling surprising opportunities along the way

    The fun challenge of raising capital

    Overcoming career hardships: Deciding to leave Vertex Pharmaceuticals

    Make time for your passions: break free from work and redirect your thoughts

    Why you should never let fear get in your way

    "I'm really glad that I did make the change. It's been very invigorating and energizing. And I met some great people. I feel like I'm doing something exciting, interesting, and potentially impactful. And I certainly don't regret it in any way, shape, or form." Patricia Hurter.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Patricia Hurter:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricia-hurter-5b96861/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Ever wondered how professionals can continue to weather the ups and downs? We strive to bring listeners inspiring stories of successful leaders who have overcome hardships to achieve success. In this latest episode, Bonnie speaks with Annabelle Vultee, who went from owning a Mexican restaurant to becoming the COO of EF Education First in China.

    Annabelle shares her incredible journey, discussing the unique challenges of doing business in China, how she overcame her introversion in a leadership role, and how she handled the industry consolidation while maintaining profitability. She also shares advice on how to succeed in a constantly changing world. From fierce competition and high marketing costs to the importance of government and public relations and the role of technology in success, Annabelle provides a comprehensive look at the complex landscape of doing business in China. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Annabelle Vultee

    Cracking the code to drive sales and profit growth

    Breaking into a massive market: The advantages of doing business in China

    The challenges of doing business in a non-stop culture

    Navigating through leadership challenges: overcoming language barriers and introversion

    The importance of regaining control of your schedule

    Addressing the saturation of the adult English training industry and the influx of industry competitors

    The importance of a strong network and the test of a good leader

    A reminder to ride the highs and be patient with the lows

    The red flags and physical signs of burnout

    ‘’The reality isnt always exactly what you read and hear. And I think people kind of still have some residual fear of China. A lot of scepticism. And its not all completely unfounded, but the reality is China is a progressive country. Its trying to move along. Its trying to get its citizens to a better place.’’ – Annabelle Vultee.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world’s most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Annabell Vultee:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/annabellevultee/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Life's twists and turns make us who we are. This week, we hear from Dorlisa Flur, a corporate board member and Women on Boards Network member, who shares her inspiring story of resilience, ambition, and determination. From growing up in a small town in North Carolina to a successful career at McKinsey, Dorlisa has faced setbacks that have only made her more resilient. Tune in to hear her inspiring story and gain insight into tackling life's challenges and coming out on top! Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Dorlisa Flur

    The difference between working as a consultant VS a board member

    The pathway to influential leadership and becoming a serial transformation executive

    Overcoming career challenges and navigating through the McKinsey election process

    How a competitive project in Australia changed Dorlisa's life

    The benefits of understanding and recognising your personality traits

    Facing career setbacks and questioning whether it is time to quit

    How mentorship can help unlock your potential

    The value of intentionally building and sustaining relationships

    How to lead through times of crisis and turn uncertainty into opportunities

    "We used to joke at McKinsey that you ultimately had to be an optimist. We went into every situation believing we could make it better." Dorlisa Flur.

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Dorlisa Flur:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorlisaflur/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com

  • Is the ability to be open to new opportunities and experiences a pivotal component of being a successful leader? Lynda Bourque Moss, CEO of Moss Consulting and a Harvard Women on Boards network member shares her insights on successful leadership. Lynda draws from her diverse career, including serving as a senator in Montana, leading a foundation, and serving on various boards. Lynda emphasizes the importance of being a good listener, having empathy, and awareness of the periphery when stepping into a new opportunity. Lynda also shares personal challenges, including losing her husband and how she has relied on her support network and creativity to overcome a hurting heart. Further key points throughout include:

    An introduction to Lynda Bourque Moss

    The road to becoming a state senator

    Why you should never say no to new opportunities

    The similarities between running for a public office and a corporate board

    The one leadership skill that every leader should have

    Overcoming times of hardship and becoming comfortable with vulnerability

    The journey of writing a children's book and a memoir

    Managing grief and a hurting heart: The importance of taking time to heal

    Why diversity and inclusion are essential in all aspects of life

    Lynda's closing words of advice for leaders

    Real Life Real Leaders is dedicated to exploring the real stories behind some of the world's most outstanding inspirational leaders. Each new episode teaches the highs and lows of building a successful business and uncovers the attributes that make a great leader.

    Get connected socially with Lynda Bourque Moss:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynda-moss-27905956/

    https://lynda-moss.com/

    Get connected socially with host Bonnie Hagemann:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhagemann/

    https://edainc.io/

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bonnie_hagemann

    https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/real-life-real-leaders-podcast/

    This podcast is proudly produced in partnership with podlad.com