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The Australian Government came out with its privacy reform proposals less than a week ago, and just because I could, I dropped everything to cover it.* The information in Zooming Out should be helpful if you were thinking of making a submission to the review of the Bill … or , you can leave it up to CMA to be the voice of child development, research evidence, and children’s rights in that process. Do support us, though! - become a member, get an organisation you know to join as a member, or just make a tax deductible donation. (Or you can always become a paid subscriber - all proceeds go to CMA.)
The paper I cover is about cyberbullying interventions in primary school: what works, and what can parents do?
And Glenn gives us the run-down on Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2. (See Episode 7 for our review of the original.)
* There is just one tiny mistake in what I say: the Commissioner will have 24 months to develop the Children’s Online Privacy Code, not 20.
As always I’d be delighted to know your thoughts on all this, or anything else:
Show notes
Spanish paper: Mercedes Chicote-Beato, Sixto González-Víllora, Ana-Rosa Bodoque-Osma and Raul Navarro, 'Cyberbullying intervention and prevention programmes in primary education (6 to 12 years): A systematic review' (2024) 77 Aggression and Violent Behavior https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178924000284
Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-2
Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-2
Zooming Out details: Australian Privacy Principles; Attorney-General’s media release; documents relevant to current amendments. Link to follow the Bill in the Committee should be available soon.
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Apologies for the lateness of this episode - too many small excuses to go into here! Suffice to say that even though I don’t have much parental stress in my life any more, I have plenty of other kinds …
This week’s Paper Round and Zooming Out are tied together by the idea of how we manage stress as parents - and what the broader community can do to help. These are ideas close to my heart as they inform all the work we do at Children and Media Australia (not to mention having a foundation in the Convention on the Rights of the Child).
Our paper unpacks the relationship between tablet use and emotional regulation in young children; and Zooming Out looks at a highly accessible and useful document about the sources of parental stress, why it matters and what can be done about it. It obviously has applications across a range of themes and experiences, but media use is very much in the frame.
Glenn’s review is of Mr Magorium’s Wonder Emporium - suitable for 5 and up, and starring Dustin Hoffmann, what’s not to like?
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Show notes
Canadian paper: Caroline Fitzpatrick, Pedro Mario Pan, Annie Lemieux, Elizabeth Harvey, Fabricio de Andrade Rocha and Gabrielle Garon-Carrier, 'Early-Childhood Tablet Use and Outbursts of Anger' JAMA Pediatrics Published 12 August 2024 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2822089
Mr Magorium’s Wonder Emporium review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/mr-magoriums-wonder-emporium
Mr Magorium’s Wonder Emporium availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/mr-magoriums-wonder-emporium/
US Surgeon-General’s Advisory on Parents Under Pressure: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/parents-under-pressure.pdf
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As explained in this audio-post, I’ve turned on paid subscriptions. I’m not putting any content behind a paywall, but listeners now have the chance to upgrade, and by doing so you’ll be helping the organisation that makes this podcast possible, Children and Media Australia.
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Also: Episode 48 is delayed by a couple of days. Watch this space, and meanwhile …
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For this episode I had to do a last-minute Sunday afternoon dash to the studio, because in my original recording of Zooming Out I’d overlooked the FTC’s response to the complaint against NGL (Not Gonna Lie, an anonymous peer messaging app). It was great to be able to include in the re-take the good news that the regulator not only agreed with the original complaint but added in a few points of its own. Hopefully other app developers will learn from all this when they market anonymity to minors, but you never know …
(And by the way, if you want to know more about Fairplay for Kids, who wrote the original complaint, listen to my interview with their CEO Josh Golin in Episode 8.)
In Paper Round I also cover social media, looking some research that asked what individual factors contribute to problematic use of Instagram - a great complement to last week’s paper on contextual factors for screen use generally.
And if you want to share a movie with your kids that gives another perspective on princess-hood, Glenn brings us a guide on how to enjoy Brave. Have you watched it before? What did you think?
Show notes
Belgian paper: Silvana Saletti and Stephan van den Broucke, 'Focusing the attention on what truly matters. preventive approaches for problematic instagram use in youth' (2024) 11 Current Addiction Reports 724-35
Brave review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/brave
Brave availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/brave/
Zooming Out details:Complaint by Fairplay for Kids https://fairplayforkids.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/NGL_complaint.pdf;FTC media release https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/07/ftc-order-will-ban-ngl-labs-its-founders-offering-anonymous-messaging-apps-kids-under-18-halt
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Sometimes when I’m looking for a paper to cover in Paper Round, my eyes open wide - well with this one they practically popped out of my head. The authors thought this study could ‘aid in disentangling healthy screen use from potentially problematic use’, which is basically the whole purpose of this podcast - and I totally agree. The result is even more useful, actionable tips than usual! Let us know how you go with them - or if you can suggest any others.
The movie Glenn reviews is a Russian animation about the adventures of some unlikely friends in the animal kingdom - recommended for 9 and up.
Then we Zoom Out for a chat with Professor Anna Potter, who is a national authority on children’s media policy. You don’t have to be a wonk to appreciate what she has to say here, as she discusses things we’re probably all wondering about: what’s happening with kids’ content and especially Australian content now that the internet and streaming are taking such a prominent place? The author of an article called ‘Mermaids and Bin Chickens’ must have some interesting stuff to say, don’t you think?
And a heads-up: Anna and I discussed a bunch of other stuff, which I’ve left out here to keep the ep to a reasonable length, but I’ll put out some bonus content soon. Also, by the way, I’m working on the kidfluencer bonus content - coming even sooner I hope and if you are a subscriber you’ll be the first to know. If not, why not rectify that right now?
Show notes
17-author paper: Sumudu Mallawaarachchi, Jade Burley, Myrto Mavilidi, Steven J. Howard, Leon Straker, Lisa Kervin, Sally Staton, Nicole Hayes, Amanda Machell, Marina Torjinski, Brodie Brady, George Thomas, Sharon Horwood, Sonia L. J. White, Juliana Zabatiero, Clara Rivera and Dylan Cliff, 'Early Childhood Screen Use Contexts and Cognitive and Psychosocial Outcomes: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis' (2024) JAMA Pediatrics doi:10.1001/jamapediatrics.2024.2620; https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2821940?guestAccessKey=d9ef3589-dc0a-4a60-8704-9cfabb94ca76
The Big Trip review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/the-big-trip
The Big Trip availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/the-big-trip/
Zooming Out details: Anna Potter’s coauthored Conversation piece about Mermaids and Bin Chickens https://theconversation.com/i-pretty-much-already-know-what-australias-like-what-aussie-teenagers-told-us-about-not-watching-local-tv-231915; and the actual article https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1329878X241254234; article about measuring Australianness TBA
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We’ve probably all nearly collided with somebody who was doom-scrolling while walking, but physical risks from phones and social media don’t stop there. Our guest this week, Sam Cornell, is researching the physical risks from selfie-taking in beautiful but dangerous places. (The subject-matter is quite sad, so it might be worth reading the transcript before you listen, and having some supports around you in case it’s too upsetting.) We also discuss other risks, such as those arising from viral ‘challenges’.
As with Episode 44, we stick with the same topic through Paper Round and Zooming Out - and in between, Glenn is back with a movie review. This week it’s the 1950 version of Cinderella, but we’ve also got some links below to other versions of the story, just in case somebody in your family can’t get enough of princess stories. To all the wisdom Glenn imparts, I could add: you could point out to your kids that the tiny-footed one is a step-sister herself …
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Show notes
Paper Round: Samuel Cornell, Robert Brander & Amy Peden, 'Selfie-Related Incidents: Narrative Review and Media Content Analysis' (2023) 25 Journal of Medical Internet Research e47202 https://www.jmir.org/2023/1/e47202
Cinderella (1950) review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/cinderella-1950
Cinderella (1950) availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/cinderella-1950/
Cinderella (2015) review (10+): https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/cinderella
Cinderella (2015) availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/cinderella-2015/
Cinderella (2021) review (13+): https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/cinderella1
Cinderella (2021) availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/cinderella-2021/
Zooming Out (still talking to Sam Cornell, but here is the Conversation article): https://theconversation.com/from-selfie-injuries-to-viral-stunts-social-media-can-be-risky-for-children-could-a-ban-help-234393
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This week we have an extended interview with gambling researcher (and podcaster) Matt Browne, about gamblification of computer games. What is this thing? Why does it keep getting a squiggly red line under it when I type it …? Well you can probably guess, it’s when developers build gambling-like mechanics into their games - and it’s something I’m sure we’ll hear more about, so the squiggly lines might stop before long. Matt is able to talk about both the science and the policy, so happy days for us solo podcasters.
In between, Glenn is back with another review, this time with (sort of) an upper age limit. Children under 7 will love Paw Patrol: Mighty Pups (and it’s available in lots of places) - older children, however …
If you have children of different ages, how do you balance their different needs and interests?
Show notes
Hing et al paper: N Hing, M Browne, M Rockloff, L Lole, & AMT Russell, ‘Gamblification: risks of digital gambling games to adolescents’ (2022) 6 Lancet Child and Adolescent Health 357-359; DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/S2352-4642(22)00124-9
Paw Patrol: Mighty Pups review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/paw-patrol-mighty-pups
Paw Patrol: Mighty Pups availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/paw-patrol-mighty-pups-the-movie/
Zooming Out details: same as for paper round, but here is a bonus link to Matt’s laboratory: https://www.facebook.com/cquegrl/; and Matt’s podcast Decoding the Gurus: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus
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When you’re a parent trying to mediate your children’s internet use, is it helpful to be computer literate yourself? Seems like an obvious point, but as always, having research to back it up doesn’t hurt - especially if you want to have an influence on the broader environment outside your own family. Maybe you have taken steps to become more savvy yourself, maybe you’ve encouraged and supported other parents … let us know!
In the movie review, Glenn has a close look at the 2017 Disney remake of Beauty and the Beast, spurring reflection on the difference between animation and live action - always from a child development perspective.
And finally, Liz returns to a place where she’s spent a lot of time: the world of food marketing. Yes, she did appear on the side of a cereal box as a child, but this is about the *actual* world, as in the United Nations. Liz reviews a recent analysis that concluded we are way better off looking at food ads and their impacts on children’s diet as a human rights issue, not (just) a health issue. Listen to find out why, and if you know anybody who’s concerned about this, here is a button that makes it devilishly easy to
Show notes
Croatian paper: Leonarda Banic and Tihomir Orehovacki, 'A comparison of parenting strategies in a digital environment: a systematic literature review' (2024) 8(4) Multimodal Technologies and Interaction Published April 2024
Beauty and the Beast review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/beauty-and-the-beast
Beauty and the Beast availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/beauty-and-the-beast-2017/
Zooming Out details: Fiona Sing, Sally Mackay, Margherita Cinà and Boyd Swinburn, 'The utilisation of legal instruments by United Nations actors to restrict the exposure of children to unhealthy food and beverage marketing: a qualitative content analysis of UN instruments' (2023) 19:45 Globalization and Health https://doi.org/10.1186/s12992-023-00939-4 https://globalizationandhealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12992-023-00939-4
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What kind of content do little children watch on YouTube, and how can parents and carers find the good stuff? Some recent research gives an idea what to look for.
Also in this episode, we start getting to know Glenn, who’s going to be doing the movie reviews. This week we hear why Happy Feet is recommended for children aged 12 and up (PG for 8-11). More background info on Glenn coming soon in a note.
Finally we zoom out to look at kidfluencers, or children who have a large social media following - usually driven and curated by their parents. How can the law protect them? Liz discusses an article that looks at employment law, but argues that child protection probably has better tools available.
As always, Liz is really keen to get your feedback - especially on this new format for the podcast since Kim moved on. So why not …
Show notes
Henderson et al paper: Dahlia Henderson, Talia Bailes, Julie Sturza, Michael B. Robb, Jenny S. Radesky and Tiffany G. Munzer, 'YouTube for young children: what are infants and toddlers watching on the most popular video-sharing app?' (2024) Frontiers in Developmental Psychology doi: 10.3389/fdpys.2024.1335922 Published 14 May 2024
Original YouTube study: J Radesky, A Schaller, S Yeo, HM Weeks, and M Robb, Young kids and YouTube: how ads, toys, and games dominate viewing (2020) San Francisco, CA: Common Sense Media. https://www.commonsensemedia.org/sites/default/files/research/report/2020_youngkidsyoutube-report_final-release_forweb_1.pdf
Happy Feet review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/happy-feet
Happy Feet availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/happy-feet/
Kidfluencers paper: Marina Masterson, 'When play becomes work: child labor laws in the era of "kidfluencers"' (2021) 169 (2) University of Pennsylvania Law Review 577-607
Toddlers & Tiaras: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1364951/; and in Australia, watch here: https://www.9now.com.au/toddlers-and-tiaras
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This episode is a bit of a sad one, because it’s Kim’s last as co-host. We’re hoping he will come back and share his wit and wisdom from time to time, but mostly he’ll be off devoting the necessary time to his practice, family … you know, all that other stuff.
Meanwhile, listen out for a paper he describes as ‘really cool’, where some researchers are trying to find a way to measure the addictive elements of games, just like we measure calories in food. How does this sound to you, can you imagine a measure like that helping parents?
The movie reviewed is the 2019 animated adventure UglyDolls; and Liz Zooms Out to look at the European Parliament’s recent resolution on addictive design of digital services and social media. It includes some very useful practical suggestions for how regulation can help us get the best out of those services while avoiding the negative effects on consumers (especially children). It also sparks Liz’s reflection on how users might get the benefit of a consumer law approach … just as long as we can call social media users ‘consumers’.
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It won’t be long, but suggestions of course are always welcome about what you’d like to see change, and what you’d like to stay the same.
Show notes
19-author paper: Nirav Saini, Cam Adair, Daniel L King, Daria J Kuss, Douglas A Gentile, Hyoun S Kim, Jeremy Edge, Joël Billieux, John Ng, Juliana PS Yun, Lisa Henkel, Linda Faulcon, Michelle Nogueira, Rune KL Nielsen, Shannon Husk, Shawn Rumbl, Trey R Becker, Zsolt Demetrovics and David C Hodgins, ‘Development of the Saini-Hodgins Addiction Risk Potential of Games (SHARP-G) Scale: An International Delphi study’ (2024) Journal of Behavioral Addictions DOI: 10.1556/2006.2024.00026
UglyDolls review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/uglydolls
UglyDolls availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/ugly-dolls/
Zooming Out details:Committee report, including Explanatory Memorandum https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-9-2023-0340_EN.html#_section1;Parliament Resolution https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2023-0459_EN.html;Joint Select Committee on Social Media and Australian Society https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Social_Media/SocialMedia
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Isn’t 40 an excellent number? We would feel like celebrating if it weren’t for the fact the Zooming Out story this week is so very, very sad. The opioid crisis in the US is troubling enough, without there being young people who meet their dealers on social media - at least that’s what is being alleged in a lawsuit, brought by the families of young people who suffered fatal overdoses of fentanyl. Liz takes us through the details of the suit, as well as offering reflections on how legal processes can be used to get accountability for tech companies.
Liz and Kim also reflect on some Norwegian research about the effects of typing and handwriting on your brain (don’t chuck those pens out yet!), and Mike is back with another review. This one is about the movie that launched a million vegetarians …
Show notes
Norwegian paper: FR (Ruud) Van der Weel and Audrey LH Van der Meer, 'Handwriting but not typewriting leads to widespread brain connectivity: a high-density EEG study with implications for the classroom' (2024) 14 Frontiers in Psychology 1219945 DOI 10.3389/fpsyg.2023.1219945
Babe review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/babe
Babe availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/babe/
Lawsuit regarding alleged drug sales: https://socialmediavictims.org/press-releases/smvlc-and-c-a-goldberg-pllc-amend-neville-complaint/; https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/families-lawsuit-snapchat-alleging-platform-enables-drug-dealers/story?id=106076434&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=82ea8b83-a4b5-4cb4-8f95-baf5b6694aaf; https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/story/families-sue-snapchat-parent-company-drug-delivery-deaths-96848024
The miniseries mentioned is The Long Shadow, originally shown on ITV in the UK and available on Stan in Australia.
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Welcome to the solstice edition of Outside the Screen! (Whether it’s the summer or the winter one, we’ll leave it up to you, but from us a big hint: brrrrr!)
In this week’s edition of Paper Round we look at what can happen to your body when you spend a lot of time on videogames. The research in the paper is about the risk factors for things like neck pain and hand pain, but Kim has some stories from his own practice, too.
The movie review is about everybody’s favourite cartoon bee - a movie suitable for all but the very youngest children - and Liz takes us through some of the issues that are arising in the review of the Online Safety Act. (Watch this space for a note linking to the submissions she has just completed (yes, she did get it all done in time!))
There is a lot going on, and a lot of interest in all the things we talk about on the podcast - we really hope that our discussions help you feel like you can engage and be a part of it all. Of course if you have any questions you’re very welcome to hit this button here:
Regular listeners will notice we have brought in a few changes this episode - they are in response to some really helpful feedback we received. Let us know if you notice the difference, and if you think it’s an improvement - or if there is anything else we can do to make the listening experience as good as it can be.
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Leung et al paper: Janni Leung, John B. Saunders, Daniel Stjepanovic, Calvert Tisdale, Caitlin McClure-Thomas, Jason Connor, Matthew Gullo, Andrew P. Wood and Gary Chung Kai Chan, ‘Extended hours of video game play and negative physical symptoms and pain’ (2024) 155 Computers in Human Behavior 108181 https://doi.org/10.1016/j.chb.2024.108181
Maya the Bee: The Honey Games review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/maya-the-bee-the-honey-games
Maya the Bee: The Honey Games availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/maya-the-bee-the-honey-games/
Zooming Out details: Review of Online Safety Act https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/have-your-say/statutory-review-online-safety-act-2021; and see our Episode 12 here
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This episode concludes our series on screens and schooling. Liz and Kim look at a paper about what school leaders went through in the most locked-down city in the world; and then Liz interviews an alum of a school that had (and still has) some major restrictions on tech use by students. What’s it like when you have to do everything longhand and you know that students in other schools are tapping away on laptops? Do you struggle when you get to uni?
Show notes
Edith Cowan paper: “Mummy is meeting a teacher, play on the iPad”: Reflecting on educational leadership during COVID-19 lockdown in Australia' (2024) 38(1) Management in Education 35-39
Zooming Out: Check out this blog by the headmaster of Sydney Grammar School, Dr Richard Malpass
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The second instalment in our series on screens and schooling, and we’re on a roll. Paper Round this week looks at different ways schools use social media to engage parents; and Kim interviews a South Australian school wellbeing leader about the impact at the coalface of home and school screen use.
Plus, in between times, we get a review of a movie about schooling - well sort of. Do you have any other favourite school movies, apart from School of Rock?
As the gathering of content for the series has taken a bit longer than we expected, there will be a 2-week gap before the final instalment. But do tune in and see what else we might be able to serve up in the meantime - or listen back on whatever you might have missed. (Or if you’ve listened to all 37 episodes already, we want to hear about it!)
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Deakin paper: Gillian Baxter and Dianne Toe, '"Parents don’t need to come to school to be engaged:" teachers use of social media for family engagement' (2023) 31(2) Educational Action Research 306-328 https://doi.org/10.1080/09650792.2021.1930087
School of Rock review: https://childrenandmedia.org.au/movie-reviews/movies/school-of-rock
School of Rock availability in Australia: https://www.flicks.com.au/movie/school-of-rock/
Zooming Out details: South Australian Wellbeing Leaders in Schools Association Inc
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This is the first in our three-part series about screens and schooling. We set the scene by looking at a Spanish systematic review about screens and educational outcomes, which helpfully reminds us that the concerns driving research have changed over the years, from addiction and health (pre-2016), to educational applications and the role of families (2016-2020) and then identity construction, health, well-being and behaviour (post 2020). As with so many things, it’s more complex than you’d think!
Then Liz interviews media studies researcher Dr Catherine Page Jeffery about her work investigating parents’ responses to ed tech, and who should bear responsibility for managing adolescents’ screen use habits. When they’re turning up tired at school because they’ve been up late on their devices, you might have one answer, but then what about when they are at home and insist they have to be on their devices for long hours because they’re doing homework?
What have your experiences been, managing the interface between school and home?
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Spanish paper: Daniel Caballero-Julia, Judith Martín-Lucas and Luis E Andrade-Silva, 'Unpacking the relationship between screen use and educational outcomes in childhood: A systematic literature review' (2024) 215 Computers & Education 105049
Zooming Out details: Dr Catherine Page Jeffery; and her article, ‘“It’s just another nightmare to manage:” Australian parents’ perspectives on BYOD and “ed-tech” at school and at home’ (2022) Learning, Media and Technology
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The series on screens and schools is starting next week, and meanwhile here are some bits of the conversation from Episode 31 that we saved up for just an occasion such as this. You’ll recall that Professor Jeannie Paterson had some deep insights into the impact of AI on children and young people; here we go even deeper.
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Coming to you a little late this week - Liz just had a bit too nice a Mothers’ Day and it threw out her schedule. Hope all our listeners also had a lovely day, whatever your relationship to motherhood might be.
Also this is a bit of a shorter episode but don’t take that to mean the content isn’t interesting - if anything it’s a bit more interesting than usual, and the parenting tips are certainly both simple and useful.
First it’s a Paper Round about the impact of physical activity on sleep among adolescents who spend a lot of time on screens. Then we kind of Zoom Out, but not really, with Dr Kate Highfield, Associate Professor of Education at the University of Canberra, to discuss some research she’s been involved in about how to transition young children off screens without tantrums.
What do you think of all these tips? Are they easier said than done? What strategies work for you?
For the coming weeks we’ve got a special series planned so keep an eye out for that. And if you want to make sure you get a message in your Inbox about it, why not …
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Brazilian paper: Amanda dos Santos, Wagner Prado, William Tebar, Jared Ingles, Gerson Ferrari, Priscila Morelha, Luan Borges, Raphael Dias, Victor Beretta and Diego Christofaro, 'Screen time is negatively associated with sleep quality and duration only in insufficiently active adolescents: A Brazilian cross-sectional school-based study' (2023) 37 Preventive Medicine Reports
SBS series on sleep
Zooming Out details: Kate Highfield’s website; the Conversation article
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This week’s episode continues the cute monkey theme from last week, with a review of Curious George. Not all movies based on children’s books are exactly great content for children, but the CMA reviewers thought this one really stood up.
Wrapping around that, we look at some research about gaming and creativity, and a UK government report about how children find their way to violent content online. (You’ll be amazed to know it has something to do with peer pressure.)
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Turkish paper: Ayla Kaya, Kadriye Aydemir and Aysegul Isler, 'A controversial issue in adolescents: Is the effect of digital games on creative personality traits positive or negative?’ (2024) 49 Archives of Psychiatric Nursing 67-72
Curious George review
Curious George availability in Australia
UK OfCom report on Pathways to Violent Content
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First things first: this week we’ve got some new music! Have a listen and let us know what you think. (It comes in part-way through.)
As for the talking bit: just two segments in this one. Paper Round is about the role of non-screen activities in preschoolers’ social-cognitive development; and Zooming Out looks at the Australian government’s current proposals to reform the classification system. Might we finally be getting a system that can provide parents with useful information about movies and games?
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German paper: Jan Lenhart and Tobias Richter, 'Media exposure and preschoolers’ social-cognitive development' British Journal of Developmental Psychology Early Access Date: FEB 2024
PISA rankings: As you’ll see here, in 2022 Germany was below Australia in maths, but on the same level as the USA. Anything you want to say about that?
Zooming Out details: Stage Two reforms; Stage One reforms; Elizabeth Handsley and Wayne Warburton, ‘“Material likely to harm or disturb them”: Testing the alignment between classification decisions and psychological research evidence’ (2021) 29 Psychiatry, Psychology and Law 68-92 https://doi.org/10.1080/13218719.2021.1904446
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In Paper Round this week, Kim and Liz discuss a different kind of research: this was done to find out what various countries around the world are doing to prevent gaming disorder. There is a huge range of responses, and Kim is hoping to use this information to convince the Australian government to take action. The South Korean response is especially interesting, and Liz reflects how helpful it is to have joined-up government.
Then in Zooming Out, the hosts discuss some recent changes to alcohol advertising self-regulation in Australia. What counts as advertising? What special measures are there to protect children, and when do they apply? And what about zero-alcohol versions of things that are usually alcoholic? Listen out to get the rundown on these questions and more - and as always you can check out the source docs yourself. Links in the Show Notes.
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King et al paper: Daniel L. King, Paul H. Delfabbro, Young Yim Doh, Anise M. S. Wu & Daria J. Kuss, Ståle Pallesen, Rune Mentzoni, Natacha Carragher & Hiroshi Sakuma, 'Policy and Prevention Approaches for Disordered and Hazardous Gaming and Internet Use: an International Perspective' (2018) 19 Prevention Science 233-249DOI 10.1007/s11121-017-0813-1; https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11121-017-0813-1
Spy Kids review
Spy Kids availability in Australia
ABAC Responsible Marketing Code and Review document
Making a complaint under the Code
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