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For those who come to understand and believe that the God of the Bible is the Father alone (John 17:3, 1 Cor. 8:6) and that Jesus is God's human Messiah, the Christ, the Son of God --- you will be condemned by many religious leaders and even family and friends.
This podcast gives some examples :).
Other resources:
Bill Schlegel Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@billschlegel1
Blog
https://landandbible.blogspot.com/
Lecture: Denying Christ: "Jesus is God" Denies that Jesus is the Christ
https://youtu.be/mQMBh-Hhiw4
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Pastor Finnegan has written a book called, “Kingdom Journey:A Call to Recover the Central Theme of Scripture.”Pastor Finnegan describes how God’s central promise for humans is not adisembodied escape to heaven, but of resurrection to a full immortal life on arenewed earth. In other words, restoration not relocation.
See theshow notes for links to Pastor Finnegan’s book, and also to a previous podcast wherePastor Finnegan discussed “Where do we go when we die?”
Book: Kingdom Journey: A Call to Recover the Central Theme of Scripture
https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Journey-Recover-Central-Scripture/dp/1666785954
Where do We Go When We Die (Hint: not to Heaven)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8rgs85dBtkRestitutio podcast: Conditional Immortality https://restitutio.org/2019/02/14/164...
Restitutio podcast: Challenging Conditional Immortality https://restitutio.org/2019/02/21/165...
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15 One-minute challenges to the Trinity and Deity of Jesus.
For video clips and links to longer lectures mentioned in this podcast see here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUqWXumvcp5pdxAhK9DK0oUrzAGYl291_
Bill Schlegel YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/@billschlegel1
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“They believe in God. They believe in Jesus. They believe inthe Holy Spirit. But they don’t believe in what is considered the most important doctrine of them all…they don’t believe in the Trinity.
“If you are a Christian, what you were taught about the Trinity is probably wrong.
“If you’ve ever wondered exactly how Christians have come to what might seem to bea strange interpretation of the nature of God, this book should provide you with a crystal-clear look into the study and understanding of how and why many believers insist that God is one and not three.
#forrestmaready, #trinity, #deityofchrist, #walkaway
Why Some Christians Don’t Believe in the Trinity
https://store.forrestmaready.com/products/why-some-christians-dont-believe-in-the-trinity
https://www.amazon.com/Some-Christians-Dont-Believe-Trinity/dp/B0CMKB1KY6/ref=sr_1_8?qid=1706814856&refinements=p_27%3AForrest+Maready&s=books&sr=1-8
Forrest Maready website:https://www.forrestmaready.com/
Red Pill Gospel: Christianity, before it was Ruined: Interview with Forrest Maready
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrgf8ygLo0
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When Jesus said, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), was he claiming to be God?
No. We see Jesus use the same language of more than one person being “one” in John 17:11, indeed of believers being “one” with both Jesus and the Father. What he means is a one-ness of purpose and intention, a one-ness of unity toward the same goals.
Was it the God Jesus who prayed, “Now, Father, glorify me together with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world came to be.” No. Rather this was the prayer of the manJesus the Christ expressing his faith in the pre-determined promise of God. Expressing trust in God’s promise, Jesuswas speaking of a future reality as if it had already happened.
We see in John 17:20-24 that the Father GAVE to Jesus glory before the foundation of the world, that Jesus already had been given that glory when he was speaking, and that he already gave the same glory to others who had not yet believed in him.
Additional resources:
One God Report Podcast
https://open.spotify.com/show/1fJjk0QUhsyr8r9hVCgoFk
Bill Schlegel YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/@billschlegel1
Lecture: The Glory Jesus had with God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXu_2Sn4kg4
If Jesus Pre-existed, He Was Not Human
https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2019/06/if-jesus-pre-existed-he-wasnt-human.html
#deityofchrist, #biblicalunitarian, #John17_5, #John 10_30, #gospelofjohn
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In this episode our guest, theological author and blogger, TroySalinger, shows that the biblical metaphors “to come from heaven”, “to come from above” and “to come from God” are to be understood figuratively and apply to John the Baptist (and other Old Testament prophets) as well as to Jesus.
When referring to human beings, these figures of speech do not mean to literally descend from some existence in heaven. Rather, the figures refer to humans being commissioned, instructed, authorized and empowered by God.
In his exposition of John 3:31-36, Salinger shows the context of “coming down from heaven” relates to the testimony of John the Baptizer and Jesus on the one side (“from heaven”), in contrast to the Judean religious authorities on the other side (“of the earth”).The testimony of the Baptizer and Jesus is to believed because they (and their testimony) have come from God, from heaven. The testimony of the religious leaders on the other hand, is “from below, from the earth”, that is, of human origin.
For the full text of this podcast, see Salinger’s blog “Letthe Truth Come Out”.https://letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com/2023/11/24/john-331-36-a-problematic-text/
Other resources:“I came down from heaven”:Metaphors in the Gospel of John
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egnYn2JHRjM
Pre-incarnateAppearances of the Son of God in the Old Testament: Truth or Myth
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUqWXumvcp5p1klRmE6uAaU7uGSOMDuCXIs the Memra the Pre-incarnate Son of God
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUqWXumvcp5rvmD5Q9dO68RFlfeg_cc8C
#deityofchrist, #trinity, #biblicalunitarian, #troysalinger, #billschlegel
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In this episode we continue our countdown of the top 10 New Testament verses that show that Jesus is NOT God. Verses in this episode include:
(5.5) 1Corinthians 15:21
For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead.
5. Acts 17:31
“…becauseHe (God) has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and of this he has given assurance to all men by raising him from the dead." (Act 17:31 RSV)
4. Acts 2:22, 36
"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know…
Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified."3. 1 Timothy 2:4-5
God… “desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”
2. 1 Corinthians 8:6
Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all and through whom we exist.
1. John 17:3
“Father….this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”
Compare John’s purpose statement: John 20:30-31: “Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name.”
“Consolation” Verses:
Many verses which declare that God, someone other than Jesus, raised the Lord Jesus from the Dead, e.g.,1 Cor. 6:14, Romans 10:9
“And God raised the Lord and will also raise us by his power.”
Romans 10:9
“…believe in your heart that God raised him (the Lord Jesus) from the dead”
Acts 5:30
The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree.
Matthew 24:36
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.”
John 14:28 (10:29)
“The Father is greater than I”
#deityofchrist, #newtestament, #biblicalunitarian, #unitarian, #billschlegel
Bill Schlegel blog
https://landandbible.blogspot.com/
Did Jesus Raise himself from the Dead?
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In this two part episode we look at 10 verses from the New Testament which give direct evidence that Jesus is NOT God.
Many Christians have heard of a few verses that supposedly declare that Jesus IS God, but few Christians have heard about verses that show that Jesus is NOT God.
In this episode we examine five (OK, plus) verses:
10. 2 Cor. 1:3, Eph.1:3, 1 Pet. 1:3, Rom. 15:6 The Lord Jesus Christ has a God
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,the Father of mercies and God of all comfort”
Ephesians 1:17
I pray that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory,may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation as you come to know him, (Eph1:17 NRS)
Revelation 3:12
The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God.Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God,and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes downfrom my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
9. John 20:17
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."
8. Mark 12:29-33 whereJesus quotes Deuteronomy 6:4
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God the LORD is one. And you shalllove the LORD your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength…”
(Yahweh our God, Yahweh is one). “Heis one, there is no other but he, and to love him…”
7. John 8:40
“…but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you thetruth that I heard from God.”
6. Romans 5:15
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the gift in the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Resources:
Kapusta,P. The Epistle to the Hebrews: An Anthology of Quotations
https://www.amazon.com/Scripturae-Contra-Trinitatem-Alternative-commentaries/dp/B0CKD3L7N6/ref=pd_sbs_sccl_1_1/146-8304861-2985060?pd_rd_w=WeOyj&content-id=amzn1.sym.9e4bb0e3-6517-4128-9279-264b7296d379&pf_rd_p=9e4bb0e3-6517-4128-9279-264b7296d379&pf_rd_r=GFQ5GF78ZPBYJ26M0WQK&pd_rd_wg=QQCBt&pd_rd_r=79fbd551-3f12-4afb-a5a6-a82a1301ac54&pd_rd_i=B0CKD3L7N6&psc=1“BeforeAbraham Was I Am”: Was Jesus Claiming to Be God?
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This episode has two parts:
Part 1, I ask a question about the objectives of the Hamas attack.
October 7, 2023—a date which will live in infamy— Israel wassuddenly and deliberately attacked by the militant, terrorist forces of Hamas, the Islamic organization in authority in the Gaza strip.
Part 2 of the Podcast, Reading the New Testament without Trinitarian Glasses
I look at the first eight verses of the Book of Revelation as an example of reading a New Testament text without the presuppositions and prejudices of Trinitarian belief.
We discover that in the biblical text Jesus is not the LORD God Almighty, who was and is and to come. Rather, Jesus is the faithful witness who died is the first-born from the dead. Jesus’ God is the Father, the LORD God Almighty who is and was and is to come.
Resource links:
In the Book of Revelation, God is not the Lamb, and the Lamb is not God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VGgzoGD8QwHamas charter
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.aspHamas is an acronym of the Arabic phrase حركة المقاومة الإسلاميةor Ḥarakah al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement".
Samples of Hamas Charter: Preamble
Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"
Article 8
Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
Basam Naim, Hamas Head of Political and International Relations, “We did not kill civilians…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egipqa0ZhUk&t=2s
Hamas Chief of National Relations Abroad, Ali Baraka: We Have Been Secretly Planning the Invasion for Two Years
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1712030588872351872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzZsms0LJWQ
Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh (from Qatar) 10/14/23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TsgINcg-ss
#Hamas, #Israel-Hamas, #trinity, #deityofchrist, #unitarian, #biblicalunitarian, #billschlegel
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Who is Denying Christ – Me or a Person who Believes that “Jesusis God”?
When I first came to understand that the man, the human person Jesus of Nazareth, is God’s Christ (the Messiah המשיח), the human Son of God, quite a few of my former Trinitarian and deity-of-Christ-believing friends accused me of “denying Christ”.
Here I was confessing and proclaiming that Jesus is the Christ, yet many people were saying I was denying Christ!
For a complete text of this episode, click here:
https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/09/who-is-denying-christ-me-or-person-who.html
Let’s ask Trinitarian, deity of Christ believers this question. I would really like to hear Trinitarians, or oneness believers answer. I’m interested in honest, civil discussion. The best place to answer is probably the Bill Schlegel YouTube channel.https://www.youtube.com/@billschlegel1
Here’s the question – I’ll ask it in various ways for clarification:
Do have a problem with God exalting a human person, Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, to His (God’s) right hand?
Do you deny that the human person, the human being, Jesus of Nazareth came into being, was born, lived, was put to death, was raised from the dead by God and exalted to God’s right hand? Are you ashamed of the human person, Jesus of Nazareth?
Do you think who this human person is and what this human person did is not sufficient to be the one mediator between God and man?
Again, is there an exalted, glorified human person at the right hand of God?
#deityofchrist, #trinity, #biblicalunitarian, #billschlegel, #denyingchrist, #antichrist
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A faith journey. How I was introduced to Christianity, became a teacher in a Christian college in the Land of Israel, and came to understand that the God of the Bible is not three-persons-in-one-being.
I believe in God (the Father) and in Jesus the Son of God (the Messiah), and in the spirit of God - but I'm not a Trinitarian.
For the full text of this episode see here:
https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/09/walk-away-why-i-am-not-trinitarian.html
Other resources mentioned in this episode:
Biblical Unitarian Christian Alliance conference:
https://www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/registration-is-open-uca-conference-october-19-21-2023/
Satellite Bible Atlas
https://www.bibleplaces.com/satellite-bible-atlas-schlegel/
Revised English Version
https://www.revisedenglishversion.com/Gen/1/nav1
Video Testimony, Bill and Stephanie Schlegel
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In Romans 10:9 the Apostle Paul states that part of salvation depends on a person confessing with their mouth that “Jesus is Lord”, or the “Lord Jesus”.
This episode aims to show that, contrary to traditional Christianity’s belief, to claim that “Jesus is Lord” (or the “Lord Jesus”) is NOT a claim that “Jesus is God”.
Rather, when the Apostle Paul, like other writers of the New Testament,uses the title “Lord” for Jesus, he differentiates Jesus fromGod.
Another way to state this truth: in his epistles Paul uses the title God for God (the Father alone), and the title Lord for the human person, Jesus the Lord Messiah.
For full text of this episode, see here
https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/09/in-romans-109-apostle-paul-states-that.html
#JesusisLord, #deityofchrist, #richardbauckham, #1Corinthians8:6,#Romans10:9, #Jesusinshema, #billschlegel, #onegodreport
Time stamps:
00:01 Introduction: LORD or Lord? There are many people in the Bible who are Lord, but are not God.
03:12 The titles “God, Father, God the Father, God our Father” : All of God or just one memberof God?
05:13 Doesthe Apostle Paul use the title “Lord” for Jesus to equate Jesus with God, or distinguishing Jesus from God. Paul never uses the title “Lord” for God.
07:31An example from Peter, Acts 2_36, “God made Jesus Lord and Christ”
09:00 Romans 10_9 “Jesus is Lord”. Romans 15_6 “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus”
12:06 First Corinthians 8_6, “As for us there is one God, the Father…and one Lord, Jesus Christ”
21:24More examples of “Lord” meaning that Jesus is the Lord Messiah, not the LORD God, 2 Cor. 1_3 and Ephesians 1_17
23:00 Other biblical authors who distinguish between God and the Lord Messiah Jesus: James1_1, 2 Pet. 1_2, and Jude 1_25. The Gospel of John never refers to God as Lord,except in 3 places where the author directly quotes an Hebrew Scripture passagethat contains the name YHVH.
26:42 Summary and Challenge. Jesus is the Lord Messiah, not the LORD God.
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An examination of the Trinitarian claim that God is a compound unity, "three-in-one".
For full written text of this podcast see here:
https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/08/hear-o-gentiles-lord-your-god-lord-is.html
That the God of the Bible, YHVH is one, is a difficulty for Trinitarianism.In about AD 530 the Christian Byzantine Emperor Justinian even banned the recitation of the Shema since he considered it to be a denial of the Trinity. But modern Trinitarianism takes a different approach, claiming that “one” can mean three because “one” can mean a compound unity. Three things together can make up one of something else. A couple of biblical examples are put forward. For instance, in Genesis 1:5 evening and morning are one day. A husband and wife become one flesh (Gen. 2:24). The spies came back with one (echad) cluster of grapes" (Num. 13:23). Let’s take a closer look at the “compound unity”, “three-in-one” claim.
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For text notes to this podcast, click here: https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/08/does-apostle-peter-call-jesus-christ.html
In 2 Peter 1:1 did Peter claim that Jesus Christ was “our God? Two points:
1. Even for deity of Christ believing Trinitarians, to claim that Peter is calling Jesus Christ “our God” is a big problem. Isn’t your Godthe Trinity? And, what about the Father? What about the “Spirit”? In a frantic effort to find some evidence that “Jesus is God”, aren’t you ignoring and dishonoring the One whom Jesus called the only true God, the Father (John 17:3). Aren’t you dishonoring the one of whom Paul said “as for us there is one God, the Father” (1 Cor. 8:6)?
The deity of Christ interpretation dishonors Peter and falsely testifies about Peter. And, any and all “deity of Christ” claims are a denigration of the Father, since they claim that the Father is not the one true God.
2. It is clear from many other Scriptures that Peter knows exactly who God is, and who the Lord or Savior Jesus Christ is. Peter does notconfuse the identity of God and Jesus. The fact that the deity of Christ claim appeals to some supposed point of Greek grammar for one two less clear verses, and ignores the testimony of the rest of Scripture is simply poor exegesis.
To Peter, the Lord and Savior Jesus is not God. To Peter, but the Lordand Savior Jesus Christ has a God, who raised him from the dead. We can see what Peter means in 2 Peter 1:1, “in the righteousness of our God, and (the) Savior Jesus Christ” by reading Peter’s other descriptions of God and Jesus. Let’s start with the very next verse:
2 Peter 1:2, "May grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord."
Who is “God” in this verse? Are we really to believe that Peter switchedwho was God from verse 1 to verse 2. I hate the deity of Christ identityconfusion. I reject the deity of Christ identity confusion.
John 17:1-3, having eternal life involves knowing, having knowledge of two persons, two beings:1. The Father, the only true God, and
2. Jesus the Messiah whom the Father sent.
Compare the “distributive” aspect of both 1 Pet. 1:1 and 1 Peter 1:2:
“the knowledge of…” two persons (God, and Jesus our Lord).“the righteousness of…” two persons (our God, and the SaviorJesus Christ).
1 Peter 1:3. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!”
For Peter, God is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. God and the LordJesus are two different persons, two different beings.
Acts 2:22-24. "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, aman attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs which God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know -- this Jesus... God raised him up…”
For Peter, Jesus was a man whom God worked through, a man who was killed, whom God raised up. Two different persons, two different beings.
Acts 2:36 “Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified."
For Peter, God MADE Jesus Lord and Christ.
The ultimate testimony of Peter as to whom he considered Jesus to be is found in Peter’s declaration after Jesus asked him point-blank, “Who do you saythat I am?”
In Mark, Peter declared: “The Christ!” The Christ is not God.
In Luke, “The Christ of God!” The Christ of God is not God.
In Matthew, “The Christ, the Son of the Living God”. The Son of the Living God is not the Living God.
Peter in 1 Peter 1:1 is not contradicting himself. He is not confused about the identity of Jesus. It is deity of Christ interpreters who are confused about the identity of Jesus.
Related web link: Troy Salinger Examines the Granville Sharp Rule:https://letthetruthcomeoutblog.wordpress.com/2022/01/16/2-peter-11-titus-213-and-the-granville-sharp-rule-a-new-approach/
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It’s a good question. I don’t know if there is a black and white answer because there are different degrees and facets to the question. Many trinitarians that I know seem to not really know what they believe, and functionally or “practically” believe in in One God, the Father.
There are different levels and degrees of judgment. Like James said, teachers will be judged with greater strictness (James 3:1).
I am not confident that “everything is going to be alright” for someone who insists that God is a triune being, a Trinity, or that “Jesus is God”. Trinitarianism is messing with what Jesus called the greatest commandment: that Yehovah our God is one (Deu. 6:4, Mark 12:29-34).
Exodus 20:2-3 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 "You shall have no other gods before me."
So the question is: who, or what (according to Trinitarianism), is the one God. Is the one God the Father alone, or is the one God a tri-personal being, a substance that has more than one person.
And the New Testament says that the One God is the Father: John17:1-3 “Father...this is eternal life, to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”
1 Corinthians 8:6, “As for us there is one God, the Father...”
All “deity of Christ” interpretations of passages like John 1 and Philippians 2 attempt to do two things:
1. denigrate the Father by declaring that someone or something else other than the Father is the one true God, and2. rob the man Christ Jesus of who he is and whathe did. Since Trinitarianism insists that Jesus is a god-person who only “took on” human flesh or human nature, that means there never was or is a real human person Jesus the Messiah from Nazareth. Otherwise, Jesus would be two persons: a god-person Jesus and a man-person Jesus from Nazareth. But traditional Christianity decided in AD 451, almost 1600 years ago, that Jesus is not two persons. He is only the god person. The man Jesus of Nazareth never did anything -never humbled himself, never obeyed God, never trusted God - because he never existed. “He was only a god-person all along.”
1 John 2:22-23 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. Noone who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.
Who is denying the Son? Someone who believes that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, or someone who denies that Jesus, a real human person, is the Christ.
1 John 2:22 does not say, “Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus isGod”. Far from it. The Son of God is never literally God in the Bible. The title Son of God is given to created beings, especially to Israel, and to Israel’s chief representative, the king of the line of David.
We do have a judge, the man, the human person, Jesus the Christ from Nazareth. The Apostle Paul stated that God “will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed and of this He has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead” (Acts 17:31, 2 Tim. 2:5, Romans 5:15, 2 Cor. 5:10). Have we said in our hearts during our time in this age “a mere man can’t judge us, we will not have that man rule over us”?
Ironically, perhaps some Trinitarians may be saved by what they’ve insisted they aren’t saved by, i.e., works (Matt. 16:27, 12:36-37; Romans 2:6-7, 2 Cor. 5:10, 1 Cor. 3:12-14, Gal. 6:7-9, James 2:20-26). I have a feeling that one of those works will be how people treated the children of God who believe that God is the Father, and that the man Jesus is the Messiah (1 John 5:1, John 8:42, Matt. 25:41-46).
People like me are not the final judge (Romans 2:16). We don’t have all the information. God has appointed the man Jesus Christ, and given him the authority to judge (Acts 17:31, John 5:22, 27).
“So each of us shall give account of himself to God” (Romans 14:12).
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Offering three separate $200 prizes (total $600)!
$200.00 to anyone who can find a verse in the New Testament where “God” (Theos, ha Theos) means the Trinity.
$200.00 to anyone who can find a verse in the New Testament that mentions “God the Son”.
$200.00 to anyone who can find a verse in the New Testament that describes Jesus as “fully God and fully man”, or “truly God and truly man”.
Such verses should be easy to find. Many evangelical doctrinal statements start out by declaring that the Bible is the sole authority for belief and practice, and then immediately state that God is three persons in one God, that God the Son is one of those persons, and that Jesus is “fully God and fully man”.
The complaint, and prayer before YHVH is that he would raise up a remnant of 7000 Israelis that believe that He is the only true God, and that the man Yeshua (Jesus) of Nazareth is God's Messiah.
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Episode 100 – offering a $100 prize to anyone who can find a verse in the New Testament where “God” (Theos, Ha Theos) means the Trinity!
Difference between a Triad vs. the Trinity
James White, The Forgotten Trinity, p. 23:
“Within one Being that is God, there exists eternally three coequal and coeternal persons, namely, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit”
Athanasian Creed:
“Anyone who does not keep it whole and unbroken will doubtless perish eternally… one cannot be saved without believing it firmly and faithfully.”
“…we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity, neither blending their persons nor dividing their essence. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another, and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.Quote from Murray Harris book, Jesus as God, explaining that that “God” in the Bible never means the Trinity, never means the Trinitarian God, the Tri-person-one-being of mainstream Christianity.
p. 47 footnote
Biblical references in this episode:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his unique (or only begotten) Son, that whosoever believes in him should notperish, but have everlasting life.
Rom 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, butyou have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, "Abba! Father!"
Gal 4:6 And because you are sons, God has sentthe spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!"
1 Cor 8:6 “As for us, there is one God, the Father….and one Lord, Jesus Christ…”
Eph. 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, maygive you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
1 Thess. 1:1, 9-10, 3:11, 13,
2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
Hebrews 1:1 Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he hasspoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all…
To believe that the God of the Bible is a Trinity, one must believe these statements:
“In the Bible, God is never the Trinity. But the God of the Bible is a Trinity.”
“The God of the Bible is a Trinity, but in the Bible God is never a Trinity”
Trinitarians need to write a book “The Trinity as God” in which all 1315 references to God in the New Testament are examined to see which of those references mean the Trinity. It will be a very short book.
Who is God in the phrase “Son of God”?
Who is God in the phrase “Spirit of God”?
Who is God Most High in the phrase “Son of God Most High God”?
If the Father is God Most High, then neither the Trinity, nor Jesus, are God Most High.
The Trinity is a denigration of the Father, whom Jesus called the only True God and whom Paul says for us there is one God, the Father. If the Trinity is the oneGod, then the Father is not the one God.
The Father and the Trinity can’t both be the one God. One of them is an idol.
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This is part 3 of a three-part series with Dr. Dustin Smith, Pre-Millennial or A-Millennial
In this episode Dr. Smith describes the “Tale of Two Cities”. Like the original readers of the Book of Revelation, readers even now are challenged to associate with, indeed be part of, the godly New Jerusalem and not ungodly Babylon.
In a similar metaphor, readers of Revelation are encouraged associate with, indeed be part of the Bride of Christ, which is the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:2, 10-11)and not with the Harlot, which is ungodly Babylon (Rev. 17:4-6).
Dr. Smith examines the 1000 years mentioned in Revelation 20. He understands the 1000 years to be symbolic of a significant time period that has a definitefixed end. Satan is bound for followers of God and Jesus, but at the same time rampant in the world outside. Similarly, in Jesus’ Parables of the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 13) good and evil co-existence for a period of time until the fixed day of separation and judgment.
Biblical Unitarian Podcast, Host Dr. Dustin Smith
https://biblicalunitarianpodcast.podbean.com/
The Son of God: Three Views on the Identity of Jesus
https://www.amazon.com/Son-God-Three-Views-Identity-ebook/dp/B07FYTZFZK#millenium,#premillennial, #amillennial, #1000 years, #biblicalunitarian, #unitarian,#returnofchrist, #deityofchrist, #dustinsmith, #billschlegel, #Revelation,#kingofheaven
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Dr. Dustin Smith is currently Professor of Theological Studies at Reformed University near Atlanta, Georgia. Among other writings, he is co-author of the book "The Son of God: Three Views on the Identity of Jesus" and he is the host of the Biblical Unitarian Podcast.
The pre-millennial view of the return of Christ holds that the unrighteous are judged 1000 years after the righteous. In this episode, Part 2 of our discussion, Dr. Smith gives biblical evidence that the righteous and unrighteous will be judged at the same time – when Jesus returns and raises the dead – not separated by a period of 1000 years.
Scriptures referred to in this episode:
Matthew 13:30, 39-43, the Kingdom of Heaven Parable of the Wheat and Tares and its Explanation
Matthew 13:49-50, the Kingdom of Heaven Parable of the Dragnet
Acts 17:40-41, “God has fixed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man…”
Matthew 25:31ff, The Parable of the Separation of the Sheep and Goats at the Return of Jesus
Matthew 7:21-24, “Not all who say to me ‘Lord, Lord’ shall enter the kingdom
Matthew 12:41ff, “The men of Nineveh…and the Queen of the South shall rise up with this generation…”
Revelation 11:15-18, “The kingdoms of the world have become the Kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ”
Biblical Unitarian Podcast, Host Dr. Dustin Smith
https://biblicalunitarianpodcast.podbean.com/
The Son of God: Three Views on the Identity of Jesus
https://www.amazon.com/Son-God-Three-Views-Identity-ebook/dp/B07FYTZFZK#millenium, #premillennial, #amillennial, #biblicalunitarian, #unitarian, #returnofchrist, #deityofchrist, #dustinsmith, #billschlegel
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Dr. Dustin Smith is currently Professor of Theological Studies at Reformed University near Atlanta, Georgia. Among other writings, he is co-author of the book The Son of God: Three Views on the Identity of Jesus" and he is the host of the Biblical Unitarian Podcast.
In this first of a series of three One God Report podcast episodes, Dr. Smith describes some differences between pre-millennialism and a-millennialism. Eventually we are leading up to the question: is the 1000 years in Revelation 20 to be understood as a literal 1000 years, or does the 1000 years symbolically represent something else?
Dr. Smith makes these points in the current episode:Both pre-millennial and a-millennial views see two levels, or two tiers, two time-periods to the kingdom of God.
For pre-millennialism the two tiers are:
1) after the physical return of Jesus, a literal 1000-year rule of Christ on earth, and then
2) the eternal kingdom which begins after the 1000 years.
For amillennialism:
1) the kingdom of God and of His Christ has already been inaugurated with the coming of Jesus and his ascension to heaven at the right hand of God. And
2) the eternal kingdom is consummated when Jesus physically returns to earth. The amillennialism that Dr. Smith describes believes that Jesus will physicallyrule over a kingdom on earth, just not for an intermediate 1000-year period. Rather, Jesus’s return is the transition to his to an eternal rule on earth.
In this podcast Dr. Smith begins to explain some problems with the pre-millennial view.
1) Pre-millennialism maintains that even after Jesus returns and raises the dead, some non-believers, that is, mortals, will enter the millennial kingdom.But biblically, there are considerable problems not only with mortals entering the kingdom of God, but with people continuing to die after the resurrectionwhich accompanies the second coming of Christ (Matt 25:46; 1 Cor 15:23-26, 54-55; 2 Tim 1:10; Rev 21:4).
2) Pre-millennialism maintains that the resurrection of the just precedes by 1000 years the resurrection of the unjust, that is, the righteous are resurrected when Jesus returns, but the unrighteous 1000 years later. But in the Bible the resurrection of the just and the unjust always occurs at the same time, (e.g., Dan 12:2; Matt 12:41-42; John 5:28-29; Acts 24:15; Rev 11:15-18). Specifically, the resurrection of all the dead occurs at the return of Jesus (1 Thes. 4:13-17).
Biblical Unitarian Podcast, Host Dr. Dustin Smith
https://biblicalunitarianpodcast.podbean.com/
The Son of God: Three Views on the Identity of Jesus
https://www.amazon.com/Son-God-Three-Views-Identity-ebook/dp/B07FYTZFZK#millenium, #biblicalunitarian, #unitarian, #returnofchrist, #deityofchrist, #dustinsmith, #billschlegel
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