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Dan Nathan and Gene Munster of Deepwater Asset Management discuss significant trends and market shifts observed in 2024 and their potential impact on 2025. They explore the rise of custom silicon, NVIDIA's growth versus AI competition, the macroeconomic uncertainties affecting the tech sector, and the concentrated market power of major tech firms, dubbed the 'fateful eight.' The conversation delves into performances of key companies like Tesla, Apple, Google, and Microsoft, examining their stock rallies, growth strategies, and the evolving AI landscape. The duo also discusses the future of autonomous vehicles and the competitive landscape for Uber and Lyft, emphasizing the precarious balance between hype and substantial advancements in AI and tech innovations.
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Dan is joined by Mike Palmer, CEO of Sigma Computing. They discuss a variety of topics including their personal connection, the evolution of tech and its macroeconomic implications, and insights from a tech CEO dinner at RBC's TMT conference. Palmer shares his journey from education to tech, the transformations at Sigma, the impact of the pandemic on business strategy, the role of data in financial services, and perspectives on the future of AI and enterprise software. They also highlight the significance of a mentorship culture in business and the current state and future expectations of tech IPOs and valuations.
Further Reading
Cloud analytics firm Sigma valued at $1.5 bln in new funding round (Yahoo Finance)
Hakkoda Partnership (LinkedIn)
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami interview Dee Choubey, CEO and founder of MoneyLion. Dee shares his journey from being a banker on Wall Street to starting MoneyLion in 2013, driven by the lessons learned from the global financial crisis. He emphasizes the importance of using alternative data to provide financial services to underserved populations and discusses how the fintech landscape evolved post-2008 financial crisis. Dee also describes MoneyLion's transformation from a lender to a comprehensive financial platform offering credit, investment services, and more. The conversation touches on the impact of rising interest rates, their strategic pivot to a marketplace model, and the company's plans to scale operations by leveraging AI and data assets. The hosts also explore regulatory challenges and the company's strategic marketing and product expansion.
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Dan Nathan is joined by Jesse Chasse, head of tech ECM at RBC Capital Markets, to discuss insights from RBC's recent TIMT conference in New York City. They explore the optimistic outlook for the IPO market in 2024, the performance of software subsectors, and the impact of generative AI. The conversation covers the public versus private investment dynamics, venture capital pressures, M&A potential, and regulatory considerations. The discussion also touches on public market demand for growth stories, the scarcity of high-growth tech companies, and challenges around valuations in the AI sector. Jesse shares personal anecdotes, including the experience of using Waymo's robo-taxis and the implications of potential deregulation driven by Elon Musk. The episode concludes with reflections on the evolving tech landscape and anticipated new narratives in the upcoming year.
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Dan Nathan and Deepwater's Gene Munster discuss how the tech world digests potential regulatory shifts post-election. The guys also dive into potential for autonomous vehicle advancements, trade tariffs, and their impact on tech giants like Apple and Tesla. They delve into the possible regulatory environment changes under the Trump administration and its implications for AI and big tech M&A, wrapping up with expectations for Nvidia's upcoming earnings and the broader impact on AI demand.
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Dan Nathan welcomes Zeta Global CEO David A. Steinberg to discuss a recent short-seller report by Culper Research.
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami provide an update on the past week in tech as investors digest what the regulatory environment will look like under a second Trump administration. From the rotation into software to Chinese internet names, the duo breaks it all down.
Dan then welcomes Imran Khan (12:00), founder and CEO of Proem Asset Management, to discuss his distinguished career in finance, starting as an equity research analyst and moving through investment banking to fund management. Khan shares his experiences and lessons learned from leading significant tech deals, including Snap's pre-IPO phase and the Alibaba IPO. The conversation also delves into the evolution of market strategies, the current state of tech investments, AI opportunities, and the risks associated with the private market investments. Khan provides insights into his unique investment process, emphasizing risk management, long-term vision, and the importance of not falling in love with stocks. Additionally, the episode touches on the Dallas Leadership Summit, an event Khan organizes to reconnect and engage with his diverse network of industry professionals.
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the market's response following Donald Trump's victory in the 2024 presidential election. They explore upward volatility in major indices like the S&P 500 and NASDAQ, the rise in 10-year U.S. Treasury yields, and record highs in Bitcoin. The discussion also covers anticipated moves by the Federal Reserve, shifts in small-cap stocks, regional banks, and potential regulatory changes under the new administration. They delve into how market dynamics might affect various sectors including tech, with a focus on Tesla, mega-cap tech, and the geopolitical implications for semiconductor companies like Taiwan Semi and NVIDIA. Both hosts consider the impact of possible policy adjustments on the stock market and foreign policy issues involving China and Taiwan. Additionally, they touch on prospective M&A activities, the IPO market, particularly in crypto, and the strategic moves by major investment banks.Further ReadingPerplexity Nears $9 Billion Valuation in Investment Led by IVP (The Information)Goldman, JPMorgan Eye Crypto Clients as IPO Prospects Brighten (The Information)President Trump, Take Two; Big Tech, Little Tech, Chips, and Hardware; Elon Musk’s Triumph (Stratechery)—View our show notes hereLearn more about Current: current.comListen to 'Strategic Alternatives': https://www.rbccm.com/en/gib/ma-inflection-pointsEmail us at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OkayComputerPod.We’re on social:Follow @dee_bosa on TwitterFollow @GuyAdami on TwitterFollow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMediaSubscribe to our YouTube page
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Guy Adami joins for a special pod to discuss developments surrounding semiconductor companies, particularly NVIDIA and AMD, and their impact on market dynamics. They investigate AMD's recent performance and guidance within the context of the growing AI ecosystem and competition with NVIDIA. The episode also covers the volatile stock movements of Super Micro, Dell, and CDWC, examining factors such as market cap trends and competitive pressures. Shifting focus, they analyze Google and Meta's strategic integration of AI to boost ad revenues and market positioning, emphasizing Google's recent positive earnings report. The episode wraps up with insights into the fluctuating fortunes of Snap and the ascent of Reddit in the digital advertising space.
Dan Nathan is joined by CNBC’s Scott Wapner, known for hosting ‘Halftime Report’ and ‘Closing Bell.’ They reminisce about Scott's career journey, from his pre-CNBC days to hosting prominent shows, discussing the market dynamics over the years, especially in the backdrop of the financial crisis. Wapner also delves into his sports memorabilia collection, his interactions with sports figures, and evolving market commentary. Highlights include the critical role of financial crises in shaping market perspectives, responsibility in stock recommendations, and the nuances of hosting market-focused shows. The conversation shifts to sports, discussing MLB's Dodgers-Yankees rivalry and the rising valuations of sports teams, touching on the impact of private equity in the sports market.
Checkout Scott's Book 'When the Wolves Bite'
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Dan Nathan hosts Deirdre Bosa delve into earnings projections for Alphabet, AMD, PayPal, Microsoft, Meta, Apple, Amazon, and Uber. The conversation explores the broader market trends, including the resilience of the S&P and Nasdaq, and the influence of macroeconomic factors like treasury yields. They discuss the regulatory challenges facing tech giants like Google and their impact on AI innovation. The episode also touches on Meta's AI Ray-Bans, Snap's spectacles, and the strategic AI investments of Microsoft and OpenAI. The upcoming presidential election's implications for big tech, especially regarding regulatory changes under different administrations, are examined. The dialogue provides valuable insights into how market leaders are navigating the evolving tech landscape amid significant economic and political changes.
Dan Nathan and Brad Erickson, Internet Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets, discuss the upcoming earnings reports from major tech companies like Google, Meta, and Amazon. They delve into the challenges and opportunities these companies face, particularly in areas such as AI, search, ad revenue, and cloud computing. They also touch on the impact of DOJ cases and innovative products on investor sentiment and stock performance.
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Dan Nathan and Gene Munster dive into Tesla's robotaxi event and the impact of unmet investor expectations on stock performance, alongside concerns about delivery targets and competition from Chinese EVs. The guys also discuss Google and Meta's integration of generative AI, shaping search results and user growth. The conversation wraps with a discussion of Apple's upcoming feature updates and their potential stock market impact.
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Dan Nathan is joined by Trevor Marshall, CTO and co-founder of Current, to explore the landscape of tech giants like Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Meta in the realm of AI development and market strategies. The discussion touches on Apple's upcoming iOS 18, Microsoft's AI complexities and its productivity suite, and Google's competitive dynamics in smart glasses. Meta's advancements in wearables and AI integration across platforms are also highlighted. Trevor shares insights into the impact of AI on productivity, the evolving competition between tech giants, and personal experiences with generative AI tools.
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Microsoft’s AI Story Is Getting Complicated (WSJ)
Microsoft Pitches AI for Consumers Against Crowded Field of Rivals (Bloomberg Technology)
Google Searches for Its Footing in Smart Glasses as Meta Gains Ground (The Information)
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the tech market's recent decline, focusing on Apple and semiconductor stocks. They explore the influence of geopolitical tensions, particularly between Israel and Lebanon, and their impact on tech stocks. The conversation also delves into Apple's future, including its AI capabilities and market performance. The hosts analyze the performance of semiconductor companies like NVIDIA, Dell, and Micron amid the generative AI trend.
After the break, Dan interviews Scott Lynn, CEO and founder of Masterworks, discussing the opportunity for average investors to invest in high-value art through a fractionalized basis, the performance of contemporary art compared to other asset classes, and the role of low correlation in portfolio diversification. Lynn also reflects on his entrepreneurial journey, the art market's dynamics, and the recent boom and bust in the NFT market.
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Dan Nathan is joined by Deirdre Bosa, host of CNBC's TechCheck, to discuss the latest in AI investments, including Google and Amazon's funding in Anthropic, and how these valuations are evolving. They also banter about a New York Times article scrutinizing the future impact of generative AI. The episode highlights the rapid revenue growth in companies like OpenAI and Anthropic, growing interest and skepticism towards AI from big players like Goldman Sachs, with insights from Jim Covello. The conversation touches on consumer applications of AI, such as the use of models from companies like OpenAI and Anthropic by platforms like Perplexity. Bosa explores the strategic moves by Microsoft to train its own AI models and the broader implications for the AI market.
After the break, Dan Nathan is joined by Michael Dempsey, managing partner at Compound VC, and Jonathan Godwin of Orbital Materials, discussing their innovative approach using AI for advanced materials and climate tech. The episode wraps with a look at potential overcapacity in AI infrastructure and shifting strategies in major tech firms.
Further Reading
Will A.I. Be a Bust? A Wall Street Skeptic Rings the Alarm. (NYT)
AI’s $600B Question (Sequoia Capital)
Gen AI: too much spend, too little benefit? (Goldman Sachs)
WhatsApp Dominates Meta AI Use (The Information)
Microsoft AI Chief Suleyman Shuffles Unit Leadership, Pointing to Shift in Strategy (The Information)
Why I Started Orbital Materials (Substack)
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the recent interest rate cut by the US Federal Reserve and its implications for tech stocks and market performance. The conversation delves into the current price action, tech valuations, and the contrasting performances of various sectors, including hyperscalers and enterprise software. They analyze the S&P 500 and Nasdaq's historical performances, the potential impacts of interest rates on technology stocks, and valuations in a broad market context. The discussion also covers individual stocks like Apple, Tesla, Adobe, Microsoft, and the significance of recent trends in network security stocks such as Zscaler.
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Dan Nathan welcomes Jeff Richards, Managing Partner at Notable Capital, to discuss the current state and trends in both private and public markets, especially regarding generative AI. They explore the evolving valuations of private AI companies, how big names like NVIDIA and Google are influencing market trends, and the dominance of the 'Mag 7' tech stocks. The conversation covers the recent Apple event and its potential integration of AI, why software stocks have been soft, and the ongoing challenges in the IPO market. Jeff also shares insights on shifting capital allocations, regulatory dynamics, and the future of AI-driven transformations across various sectors. The discussion ends with a deep dive into the role of private equity firms and the significant influence of private credit in today's higher interest rate environment.
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Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa explore Amazon's strategic investment in Anthropic, the potential of Apple's upcoming AI features, and the importance of cloud service credits in AI investments. The regulatory challenges and future of TikTok in the US market are also scrutinized.
After the break, Sam Lessin from Slow Ventures shares his insights on the impact of generative AI on venture capital investments, emphasizing the shift towards building sustainable businesses through organic growth and strategic mergers. The episode concludes by reflecting on the broader impact of AI and social media, highlighting the importance of authenticity in the tech space and the long-term opportunities for American entrepreneurs.
Further Reading
Barron's Give Facebook the thumbs down (Barron's)
More or Less Podcast (Apple)
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Dan Nathan and Gene Munster, founder and partner of Deepwater Asset Management delve into the latest developments in the tech market, focusing on NVIDIA's impending earnings report and the competitive landscape of AI. They discuss expectations for NVIDIA's revenue growth, the implications of supply-demand dynamics, and the ongoing arms race among tech giants like Google, Amazon, and Microsoft in the AI sector. The conversation also covers Apple's upcoming September 9th event, where new product announcements could significantly impact consumer interest, and examines Tesla's current challenges amid a shifting electric vehicle market.
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Dan Nathan and Dan Niles, the founder of Niles Investment Management, dive into a comprehensive discussion on the current macroeconomic landscape, highlighting the implications of Federal Reserve policies and market expectations. They explore the potential for a soft landing in the U.S. economy, emphasizing the critical role of unemployment and inflation metrics. The conversation extends to the tech sector's 'Magnificent Seven,' focusing on recent earnings trends, AI capital expenditures, and the varying performances of tech giants such as NVIDIA, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon. They also examine the cyclical nature of tech upgrades, particularly in relation to Apple's latest innovations, and the long-term impact of AI advancements on market dynamics.
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Dan Nathan is joined by Joe Marchese, General & Build Partner at Human Ventures, for an in-depth discussion on the intersection of human attention and generative AI. They explore Joe's recent article, 'Human Attention is All You Need,' which critiques the reliance on algorithms over trust in building brands. They also discuss the role of AI in the stock market, focusing on companies like NVIDIA, Meta, and Amazon. The conversation delves into the implications of AI on advertising, commerce, and brand building, and reflects on the broader economic impacts. Additionally, they talk about the challenges and opportunities for startups in the AI space, the future of media and advertising platforms, and the potential for brand erosion due to over-reliance on performance marketing. The episode concludes with insights on the future of generative AI, market valuation, and the importance of building consumer trust.
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