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  • This week, Jane and James explore the training of bomber crews, and the perilous nature of life at the OTUs and HCUs. They discuss the training structure, the tragic story of a training flight that ended in disaster for the Canadian crew, and the importance of memorializing those who lost their lives in training. Jane talks about a new bomber command memorial and tells a story very close to her heart.

    The episode also includes viewer questions about WAAFs on board bombers, volunteering for additional ops, post-war careers for aircrew, the Italian Star campaign medal, dual control aircraft and numerous other bits and pieces!

    You can read more about the Slingley Bomber Crash here

    We'll post some pictures of the new memorial to the crew on our social media. We also have a new Facebook page/group - here's the link if you want to join.

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    *** Episode on general release Wednesday 27th November

    This week, Jane and James explore the training of bomber crews, and the perilous nature of life at the OTUs and HCUs. They discuss the training structure, the tragic story of a training flight that ended in disaster for the Canadian crew, and the importance of memorializing those who lost their lives in training. Jane talks about a new bomber command memorial and tells a story very close to her heart.

    The episode also includes viewer questions about WAAFs on board bombers, volunteering for additional ops, post-war careers for aircrew, the Italian Star campaign medal, dual control aircraft and numerous other bits and pieces!

    You can read more about the Slingley Bomber Crash here

    We'll post some pictures of the new memorial to the crew on our social media. We also have a new Facebook page/group - here's the link if you want to join.


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  • In this episode of Never Mind the Dambusters, hosts Jane Gulliford-Lowes and James Jefferies engage with historian Andrew Bird to explore the often-overlooked role of Coastal Command in the RAF during World War II. The conversation covers the origins and structure of Coastal Command, its critical role in the Battle of the Atlantic, and the ongoing resource struggles between Bomber Command and Coastal Command. Personal stories and casualty rates highlight the human cost of these operations, providing a poignant reminder of the sacrifices made during the war.

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    *** Episode on general release Wednesday 20th November

    In this episode of Never Mind the Dambusters, hosts Jane Gulliford-Lowes and James Jefferies engage with historian Andrew Bird to explore the often-overlooked role of Coastal Command in the RAF during World War II. The conversation covers the origins and structure of Coastal Command, its critical role in the Battle of the Atlantic, and the ongoing resource struggles between Bomber Command and Coastal Command. Personal stories and casualty rates highlight the human cost of these operations, providing a poignant reminder of the sacrifices made during the war.


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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


  • In this week's episode, hosts James Jefferies and Jane Gulliford Lowes discuss the significant contributions of African and Caribbean men in RAF Bomber Command during World War II. They are joined by historian John Concagh, who shares insights into the motivations behind these men joining the RAF, the challenges they faced, and their experiences during and after the war. The conversation highlights individual stories of notable airmen, and their struggles against racism.
    This conversation explores the experiences of Caribbean aircrew in the RAF during WWII, focusing on personal growth, institutional prejudice, and the lasting impact of their service. It highlights the stories of individuals like Johnny Smyth, Ulric Cross, Cy Grant and Errol Barrow, and discusses the broader implications of their contributions to military desegregation and post-war political landscapes.

    Further reading:
    John's website and articles : https://jconcagh.weebly.com/
    Ulric Cross https://www.rafbf.org/news-and-stories/raf-history/black-history-month-remarkable-legacy-squadron-leader-ulric-cross
    There's also a film about Ulric Cross currently showing on BBC iplayer
    Cy Grant, his life and work: https://cygrant.com/project/war-memoir
    Johnny Smythe https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/blog/from-sierra-leone-to-the-short-stirling-the-story-of-johnny-smythe/
    Errol Barrow https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/online-exhibitions/pilots-of-the-caribbean/heroes-and-sheroes/stateman-flying-officer-errol-walton-barrow/

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    *** Episode on general release Wednesday 13th November

    In this week's episode, hosts James Jefferies and Jane Gulliford Lowes discuss the significant contributions of African and Caribbean men in RAF Bomber Command during World War II. They are joined by historian John Concagh, who shares insights into the motivations behind these men joining the RAF, the challenges they faced, and their experiences during and after the war. The conversation highlights individual stories of notable airmen, their struggles against racism, and their lasting impact on military history. This conversation explores the experiences of Caribbean aircrew in the RAF during WWII, focusing on personal growth, institutional prejudice, and the lasting impact of their service. It highlights the stories of individuals like Johnny Smyth, Ulric Cross, Cy Grant and Errol Barrow, and discusses the broader implications of their contributions to military desegregation and post-war political landscapes.

    Further reading:
    John's website and articles : https://jconcagh.weebly.com/
    Ulric Cross https://www.rafbf.org/news-and-stories/raf-history/black-history-month-remarkable-legacy-squadron-leader-ulric-cross
    There's also a film about Ulric Cross currently showing on BBC iplayer
    Cy Grant, his life and work: https://cygrant.com/project/war-memoir
    Johnny Smythe https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/blog/from-sierra-leone-to-the-short-stirling-the-story-of-johnny-smythe/
    Errol Barrow https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/online-exhibitions/pilots-of-the-caribbean/heroes-and-sheroes/stateman-flying-officer-errol-walton-barrow/


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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


  • In this episode of Never Mind the Dambusters, hosts Jane Gulliford-Lowes and James Jefferies delve into the complexities and controversies of the Allied strategic bombing campaign during World War II. Did the campaign succeed? How is success measured?
    They explore the ongoing debate regarding its effectiveness, the shifting objectives of the campaign, the aims of the Casablanca and Point Blank Directives, and the impact on German war production and civilian morale. Through a detailed analysis of historical surveys and perspectives, the conversation highlights the nuanced nature of military strategy and its consequences. This conversation delves into the complexities of the bombing campaigns during World War II, focusing on their impact on workforce morale, the diversion of resources, and the eventual destruction of the Luftwaffe. The discussion highlights the challenges in measuring the effectiveness of bombing on civilian morale and the war economy, as well as the strategic implications of resource allocation and air superiority.

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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


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    *** Episode on general release on Wednesday 6th November 2024

    In this episode of Never Mind the Dambusters, hosts Jane Gulliford-Lowes and James Jefferies delve into the complexities and controversies of the Allied strategic bombing campaign during World War II. Did the campaign succeed? How is success measured?
    They explore the ongoing debate regarding its effectiveness, the shifting objectives of the campaign, the aims of the Casablanca and Point Blank Directives, and the impact on German war production and civilian morale. Through a detailed analysis of historical surveys and perspectives, the conversation highlights the nuanced nature of military strategy and its consequences. This conversation delves into the complexities of the bombing campaigns during World War II, focusing on their impact on workforce morale, the diversion of resources, and the eventual destruction of the Luftwaffe. The discussion highlights the challenges in measuring the effectiveness of bombing on civilian morale and the war economy, as well as the strategic implications of resource allocation and air superiority.

    Send us a text

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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


  • In this episode of Nevermind the Dambusters, hosts Jane Gulliford Lowes and James Jefferies discuss the intersection of video games and military history, particularly focusing on RAF Bomber Command. Joined by Ethan Adato, they explore how video games can serve as educational tools, the ethical implications of portraying historical events, and specific games like Bomber Crew that simulate the experiences of bomber crews during WWII.
    The conversation delves into the immersive nature of video games, their potential to engage younger audiences in history, and the moral complexities involved in recreating wartime scenarios. In this conversation, the speakers explore the representation of war in video games, particularly focusing on the impact of bombing on civilian populations, the challenges of accurately portraying historical events, and the ethical implications of gameplay.
    They discuss how games can both educate and sanitize war, the responsibility of popular games to address historical realities, and the cultural reflections of war in media. The conversation also touches on the future of war gaming, including the potential of VR experiences and the historical context of war gaming as a whole.

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  • Subscriber-only episode

    **Episode on general release on Wednesday 30th October

    In this episode of Nevermind the Dambusters, hosts Jane Gulliford Lowes and James Jefferies discuss the intersection of video games and military history, particularly focusing on RAF Bomber Command. Joined by Ethan Adato, they explore how video games can serve as educational tools, the ethical implications of portraying historical events, and specific games like Bomber Crew that simulate the experiences of bomber crews during WWII.
    The conversation delves into the immersive nature of video games, their potential to engage younger audiences in history, and the moral complexities involved in recreating wartime scenarios. In this conversation, the speakers explore the representation of war in video games, particularly focusing on the impact of bombing on civilian populations, the challenges of accurately portraying historical events, and the ethical implications of gameplay.
    They discuss how games can both educate and sanitize war, the responsibility of popular games to address historical realities, and the cultural reflections of war in media. The conversation also touches on the future of war gaming, including the potential of VR experiences and the historical context of war gaming as a whole.


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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


  • Battle of Britain Part 2

    This week Jane and James continue their discussion on the role of Bomber Command during the Battle of Britain. They discuss the 'Battle of the Barges', the heroic actions of Sergeant John Hanna VC, and the daring Dortmund-Ems Canal raid. The conversation also highlights Winston Churchill's recognition of bomber crews in his famous 'The Few' speech, and the subsequent bombing of Berlin.

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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

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  • At last! We finally got around to talking about Bomber Command's often overlooked role in the Battle of Britain. In the first of two episodes on this topic, we chat about the run up to the Battle, and highlight the significant contribution of Bomber Command, particularly in attacking Luftwaffe airfields and attacking the Kriegsmarine. The conversation covers early operations, the impact of the Norway campaign, and the heavy losses faced by Bomber Command during the Battle of France. We focus on the evolving nature of Bomber Command and its critical role in the broader context of WWII air warfare. Part 2 follows next week.

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    ***This episode is on general release from 23 October 2024

    Battle of Britain Part 2

    This week Jane and James continue their discussion on the role of Bomber Command during the Battle of Britain. They discuss the 'Battle of the Barges', the heroic actions of Sergeant John Hanna VC, and the daring Dortmund-Ems Canal raid. The conversation also highlights Winston Churchill's recognition of bomber crews in his famous 'The Few' speech, and the subsequent bombing of Berlin.


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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


  • Subscriber-only episode

    *** Episode on general release on Wednesday 16th October 2024.
    At last! We finally got around to talking about Bomber Command's often overlooked role in the Battle of Britain. In the first of two episodes on this topic, we chat about the run up to the Battle, and highlight the significant contribution of Bomber Command, particularly in attacking Luftwaffe airfields and attacking the Kriegsmarine. The conversation covers early operations, the impact of the Norway campaign, and the heavy losses faced by Bomber Command during the Battle of France. We focus on the evolving nature of Bomber Command and its critical role in the broader context of WWII air warfare.

    Send us a text

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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here



  • This week we welcome Graham Waterton, author of 'The RAF's Youngest Bomber Pilot of World War II'. The conversation delves into the life of Flight Lieutenant Brian Slade DFC, Graham's uncle, who served as a Wellington and Lancaster pilot (and Pathfinder) . Brian Slade lied about his age to enlist (abetted by his father) and joined Bomber Command at 16, completing a full tour of 34 operations before his 18th birthday. He then went on to do a second tour, serving with the elite Pathfinder group. He was killed on operations over Berlin in August 1943, aged just 19.

    Graham shares his journey of discovering Brian's story, and the discussion touches on the emotional impact of war on families, and the legacy of those who served.

    Link to Graham's book (available on Kindle and in print).

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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


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    **Subscriber only episode - on general release Wednesday 9th October 2024.

    This week we welcome Graham Waterton, author of 'The RAF's Youngest Bomber Pilot of World War II'. The conversation delves into the life of Flight Lieutenant Brian Slade DFC, Graham's uncle, who served as a Wellington and Lancaster pilot (and Pathfinder) . Brian Slade lied about his age to enlist (abetted by his father) and joined Bomber Command at 16, completing a full tour of 34 operations before his 18th birthday. He then went on to do a second tour, serving with the elite Pathfinder group. He was killed on operations over Berlin in August 1943, aged just 19.

    Graham shares his journey of discovering Brian's story, and the discussion touches on the emotional impact of war on families, and the legacy of those who served.

    Link to Graham's book (available on Kindle and in print).

    Send us a text

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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


  • We're delighted to have James back on the show and in good form... This week we're having a random chat about all sorts of stuff, from books and films to 'dream flight' scenarios. We answer listeners' questions, and debate whether the USAAF could've carried out Operation Chastise, and whether more targeted bombing could've ended the war sooner. On the way we discuss everything from Colditz to dogs to John Mills... it's that kind of episode.

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    ** This episode will be on general release on Wednesday 2nd October 2024.
    We're delighted to have James back on the show and in good form... This week we're having a random chat about all sorts of stuff, from books and films to 'dream flight' scenarios. We debate whether the USAAF could've carried out Operation Chastise, and whether more targeted bombing could've ended the war sooner. On the way we discuss everything from Colditz to dogs to John Mills... it's that kind of episode.

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    You can find out about James' research, articles, lectures and podcasts here .

    You can read more about Jane's work on her website at https://www.justcuriousjane.com/, and listen to podcasts/media stuff here


  • This week, host Jane Gulliford Lowes engages with American historian Abby Whitlock to explore the portrayal of the bombing campaigns during World War II in the series 'Masters of the Air'. They discuss Abby's personal journey into military aviation history, the cultural perceptions of RAF and USAAF crews, the representation of German civilians, and the themes of chivalry and heroism. The conversation also delves into the psychological toll of combat and the differences in how these narratives are portrayed in American and British media.

    The infamous (well in the UK anyway!) pub scene in MOTA ep.2 ( the fight between the US and RAF aircrews) is debated, and Abby and Jane also mull over the legacy of 'Band of Brothers' and 'The Pacific' .

    You can read more about Abby and her work here .

    You can also read Abby's article on Band of Brothers, which Jane references in this episode, here.

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  • Subscriber-only episode

    *This episode will be publicly available on Wednesday 25 September 2024

    This week, host Jane Gulliford Lowes engages with American historian Abby Whitlock to explore the portrayal of the bombing campaigns during World War II in the series 'Masters of the Air'. They discuss Abby's personal journey into military aviation history, the cultural perceptions of RAF and USAAF crews, the representation of German civilians, and the themes of chivalry and heroism. The conversation also delves into the psychological toll of combat and the differences in how these narratives are portrayed in American and British media.

    The infamous (well in the UK anyway!) pub scene in MOTA ep.2 ( the fight between the US and RAF aircrews) is debated, and Abby and Jane also mull over the legacy of 'Band of Brothers' and 'The Pacific' .

    You can read more about Abby and her work here .

    You can also read Abby's article on Band of Brothers, which Jane references in this episode, here.








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