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Today is a special edition of JTG. Our usual crew will be back!
Today, Dan discusses marriage, divorce, and a new marriage with John Fela of Joni & Friends. While not officially diagnosed, John has realized later in life his neurodivergent identification.
About John:
John Fela is the Ministry Relations Manager at Joni and Friends Chicago, working with churches to equip and train them to help the disabled in their communities. Prior to that, he spent almost 20 years in education, working with children from Infants to Middle School, serving in a variety of roles, including Teacher, Mentor Teacher, and School Director.
Zoom AI Summary of Conversation:
John and his wife have a dedicated time or day to review and update their shared calendar to ensure they are both aware of each other's schedules and commitments.
John and his wife consistently express gratitude and appreciation for each other's efforts and contributions, even for small tasks or gestures.
John and his wife practice gentleness and empathy in their communication, especially when discussing sensitive or past-related topics.
John and his wife continue engaging in regular devotional and check-in times to maintain a strong connection and support each other.
John lives in Round Lake, IL, and is married to his wife Faith and father to his son Christopher (ASD.) He is a public speaker, podcast guest on multiple shows, and regular contributor to Key Ministry’s Special Needs Family blog and other special needs blogs, including Hope Anew and The Mighty. -
Today we took some listener questions and Dr.Stephanie asks them from neurodiverse couples to Natalie Roberts and Heather Parks.
One key component- Neurodiversity is never THE only marriage challenge or complexity.
ntroducing Natalie Roberts and Heather Parks
Heather Parks has been in a neurodiverse relationship for over 25 years and lives in Devon, UK, with her husband and four children. Neurodiversity was unknown until 2012 when it exploded into their lives amid a mental health crisis that affected every family member. Ill from the persistent stress of trying to keep everyone afloat, desperate to find solutions, and losing hope that things would ever get better, Heather embarked on a journey in which she recovered herself and rebuilt connection firstly with herself and then in her relationship, family, and beyond. After 8 years of supporting families discovering and navigating neurodiversity, Heather certified with MasterCoach in 2020 before becoming a Positive Intelligence ® Coach. In 2021, she gained the ICF Accredited Certificate in Body-Oriented Coaching with The Somatic School in London, UK.
Heather coaches individuals struggling in their neurodiverse relationships using a nervous system approach of safety and curiosity so that they can reconnect with themselves and create conscious, loving connections with others... so they can be themselves, too!
Natalie Roberts lives in the UK with her husband Pete. She’s been married for 25 years and has known about neurodiversity, participating in it for 10 of those years when her husband discovered he’s autistic.
Frustrated and depressed by toxic online groups, a lack of hope, and virtually no solutions that actually worked in real life, Natalie took a different path. Led by her social sciences background and inspired by her incessant curiosity to find a way where there is seemingly no way, she busted neurodiversity relationship myths, reversed symptoms of Cassandra Syndrome, and began to thrive in her relationship again!
Professionally, as an accredited and award-winning Relationship Coach, Natalie coaches individuals who are struggling in their neurodiverse relationships to reverse the individual and relationship impact of unknown neurodiversity so that they can be true to themselves and feel empowered to make positive and hopeful decisions about their present and future.
In 2020, Heather and Natalie co-founded Loving Difference to bring hope and a way forward for neurodiverse relationships to more people. Loving Difference has an online home that combines empowering coaching, a friendly community, and step-by-step guidance to be you again and flourish, with the company and encouragement of others navigating the same challenges. Heather and Natalie also co-host the Myth Busting Neurodiverse Relationships podcast.
www.lovingdifference.net
[email protected]
www.natalieroberts.com
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Myth Busting Neurodiverse Relationship podcast is available where you listen to podcasts.
Disclaimer:
When we have guests on the ASR podcast, they are recognized for their expertise in autism as advocates, self-advocates, clinicians, parents, or other professionals in the field. They may or may not be part of the faith community; having a guest on the broader topic of autism does not reflect complete agreement with the guest, just as many guests may not agree with our faith perspective. Guests are chosen by topic for the chosen podcast discussion and are not necessarily in full agreement with all beliefs of the chosen guest(s). -
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Dr. Stephanie and Carrie talk about Carrie's journey in marriage and family navigating Autism. We speak about the limited opportunities that exist for those on the spectrum beyond high school and steps to consider to help your teen and young adult become more independent in life after high school.
Carrie Cariello is the author of What Color Is Monday, How Autism Changed One Family for the Better, and Someone I’m With Has Autism. She lives in Southern New Hampshire with her husband, Joe, and their five children. Carrie is a regular contributor to the Huffington Post, TODAY Parents, the TODAY Show, Parents.com, Love What Matters, and Grown and Flown. She has been interviewed by NBC Nightly News and has a TEDx talk. She speaks regularly about autism, marriage, and motherhood and writes a weekly blog on her website. One of her essays, “I Know What Causes Autism,” was featured as one of the Huffington Post’s best of 2015, and her piece, “I Know Why He Has Autism,” was named one of the top blog posts of 2017 by the TODAY Show.
https://carriecariello.com/
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Today, we discuss a few topics in today's podcast. Dr. Stephanie talks with Jenilee about their family's journey with autism on the mission field. While in church ministry and mission work the three teen girls are diganosed with ASD, ADHD, AuDHD. She realized not only were her kids neurodivergent, but she was in a neurodiverse marriage and family system.
What additional challenges to ministry or being on the mission field may come with a neurodiverse marriage and family?
Are churches or ministry organizations equipped to help neurodiverse marriages and families serving in the ministry/mission field?
About Our Guest:
Rev. Jenilee Goodwin
Professional Life Coach
As a certified professional life coach (ICCI), a certified autism coach (NCDD), and an ordained minister (AG), Jenilee has over 20 years of career ministry experience. Serving in stateside churches and overseas missions, Jenilee brings lived experience, problem-solving skills, compassionate support, and creativity into each coaching session. Jenilee asks hard questions while listening, guiding, and coaching clients in their unique life situations. Jenilee is trained in the Equipping Profile, a personal development coaching tool that helps discover growth points and possible barriers to growth. Through one-on-one and group coaching, Jenilee uses the Equipping Profile, book studies, and even some homework to establish personal development plans, helping clients move forward healthily.
With many in her immediate family on the autism spectrum, Jenilee has a special call and place in her heart for moms of kids on the spectrum and for NT wives going through the difficulties of ND marriages. Even more specifically, I have a passion for these women who are also in full-time ministry or missions. There are very few places to share the full story. In coaching with Jenilee, you can share every single page of the story.
In addition to the above skills, Jenilee loves reading, writing, coffee, going for walks, and watching history documentaries.
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Dan and the guys talk about AI, Perry's new book FAIK and applications to real life.
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Today, Dr. Stephanie interviews Sarah Casburn.
They will chat about:
ABA or not ABA?
What is the controversy about ABA?
Do nutrition and diet impact Autism?
What is sensory enrichment therapy?
Sarah Casburn is a late-diagnosed autistic woman and autistic mom who combines her 20 years of personal and professional experience in a variety of areas, including Early Childhood Education, Autism and Behavioral Science, Sensory Enrichment, Nutrition, and Children’s Ministry, to support families and volunteers in a fresh approach. She is the founder of Crown Family Wellness (Neuroscience & Nutrition for Neurodiversity), which supports children and adults, and a Ministry stream dedicated to supporting church communities all across Canada and the USA.
Find out more at:
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We continue to discuss the book Dan did not read before publication and what he learned from each chapter when we received our author's copies of Uniquely Us.
Pre-order yours today at https://www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/uniquelyus -
Today, Dr. Stephanie and Carolyn discuss self-concept, self-identity, and self-esteem as key ingredients to building social communication skills. Carolyn's curriculum starts from a neurodiverse-affirming lens that is strengths-based and effective.
Carolyn Long is an SLP and the creator of the Social Optics curriculum.
https://mysocialoptics.com/
Bio:
Carolyn Long, MCD, CCC-SLP, has worked in school districts, private practice, and healthcare for 23 years. She is passionate about using nonverbal and verbal communication to create and navigate social relationships.
She developed Social Optics, a neurodiverse-affirming social communication curriculum, in 2015 and the software in 2022. She believes in the inclusion of student voices in the development of interventions that lead to better outcomes based on engagement, research, and data. She lives in Montana with her husband and 2
amazing teenage daughters. She enjoys fly fishing, horseback riding, and watching others plow snow. -
Dr. Holmes discusses promoting safety and independence for young adults on the autism spectrum.
Brody and Julie are OTRs with Springbrook Behavioral Health. They walk you through the skills needed for young adults on the spectrum to live as independently as possible, whether outside of the home or if they need to remain at home. Helping your young adult achieve autonomy, competence, and relatedness is key to a fulfilling life and mental health!
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Brody is a graduate of Evangel University, where he obtained his Bachelor's Degree in Psychology. From there, Brody attended Cox College, where he received his Master's in Occupational Therapy. Since becoming an Occupational Therapy practitioner, he has provided OT services in the fields of Home Healthcare, Inpatient Rehabilitation, and Behavioral Health. Brody currently works at Springbrook Behavioral Health, where he provides Occupational Therapy services to individuals 5-21 years old diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder and occurring mental health diagnoses.
Julie is a graduate of D’Youville University, where she obtained her Bachelor's Degree in Human Occupation and minored in psychology. From there, she continued her education at D’Youville University, where she received her Master's in Occupational Therapy. Since becoming an Occupational Therapy practitioner, she has provided OT services in school-based pediatric inpatient/outpatient behavioral health and chemical dependency. Her main focus has been behavioral health, which she has been
in for nine years. Julie currently works at Springbrook Behavioral Health, where she provides Occupational Therapy services to individuals 5-21 years old diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder and co-occurring mental health diagnoses. She is also the clinical unit director for our adolescents, who are more independent.
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Join Dr. Stephanie Holmes podcasting from the 2023 Converge Autism Conference with conference speaker Dr. Richard Boles. Dr. Boles joins her for an in-depth discussion about how energy metabolism, when not working right, can lead to many disorders, including Autism.
About Dr. Boles
Dr. Richard G. Boles is a medical geneticist and a pediatrician who specializes in mitochondrial medicine, functional disease (including cyclic vomiting syndrome, other atypical forms of migraine, and chronic fatigue syndrome), and autism spectrum disorders. His expertise stems from decades of both clinical work and research at a major academic center, as well as from his most recent experience in cutting-edge biotechnology and genomics. He uses an innovative and integrative approach in both diagnosis and treatment to best serve his patients. Dr. Boles leads the NeuroGenomics program at NeurAbilities. Patients, physicians, and other healthcare providers can consult with Dr. Boles directly about reanalyzing previously done genetic testing results, advice for managing neurometabolic disorders, or obtain guidance on choosing and interpreting genetic testing. Neurogenomics can help to unravel the biological causes and contributions for many diseases and disorders, as well as provide vital information for changing clinical management, including:
Mitochondrial Disease and Dysfunction
Autistic Spectrum Disorders
Neurodevelopmental Disorders and Intellectual Disabilities
Chronic Pain, Fatigue, and Headache Disorders
Epilepsy/Seizures
Unexplained and Undiagnosed Disorders
And Much More
https://neurabilities.com/our-team/staff-bio-richard-boles-md/
https://www.neuroneeds.com/
https://neurabilities.com/our-team/staff-bio-richard-boles-md/
https://cnnh.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NeuroGenomics-Boles-2018-web.pdf
Disclaimer:
When we have guests on the ASR podcast, they are recognized for their expertise in autism as advocates, self-advocates, clinicians, parents, or other professionals in the field. They may or may not be part of the faith community; having a guest on the broader topic of autism does not reflect complete agreement with the guest, just as many guests may disagree with our faith perspective. Guests are chosen by topic for the chosen podcast discussion and are not necessarily in full agreement with all beliefs of the chosen guest(s). -
Dr. Stephanie interviews Rosemarie Griffin about her workshop on joint attention.
Joint attention is an essential skill for clinicians, teachers, and parents to address for the autistic child/student.
Joint attention involves shared attention between at least two people on an object or even with both people knowing they are attending to the same entity. While this is focused on students, this information is also essential for couples to learn. -
While Dan participated in half of the new book, Uniquely Us, he did not read the chapter written by our other contributing authors in time for the book to reach the publisher by the due date. So, this next series will be Dan reacting to our new book, Uniquely Us!
Today, we discuss chapter 8 of the book written by Robin Tate, MA, MS, CAS. Dan, while ND himself, has not really studied and read very much about the spectrum. So, he reacts with questions and his interpretation of the chapter. Today, we start with a brief definition of Executive Function and talk about EF challenges vs. lack of execution. We discuss will and willpower and their role in EF. -
Today, Dr. Holmes and guest Meisha Marshall discuss NLP.
What is NLP?
Is it something people of faith should be concerned about?
What drew Meisha to NLP?
What are the tools that NLP offers?
Can NLP be helpful for those on the spectrum?
More on Autism and NLP
https://anlp.org/blog/using-nlp-to-help-high-functioning-autistic-children-explore-change-
Bio of Guest:
Meisha is a Marriage Coach dedicated to helping adult children of divorced parents disrupt the cycle of divorce. Her mission is to assist clients in better understanding what's really behind their challenging marital interactions, and what to do about them. Meisha's ultimate goal is to keep more families together. She achieves this by helping couples build healthier love, effective communication, mutual support, and stability.
How to find Meisha: [email protected]
Public Email: [email protected]
Business Number: (470) 444-4583
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Today, Stephanie talks with Brittany Browne about her recent diagnosis. Many topics are covered, but a key point is the vulnerability that can occur for undiagnosed women on the spectrum.
Bio:
Brittany Browne is a licensed massage therapist and contestant in the 2024 Mrs. Georgia America Pageant. Brittany’s mission on this platform is to elevate the conversation around neurodiversity, with a particular emphasis on understanding and advocating for women with autism. Her journey from acquiring a Master’s degree in International Affairs at Georgia Tech to embracing holistic healing practices, including somatic and psychedelic therapy, offers a unique lens through which she views and addresses the complexities of the human mind and body. As a late-diagnosed autistic woman, Brittany leverages her personal experiences to foster deep connections and offer empathy in her therapeutic work, making her an invaluable asset to the neurodiverse community. Outside of her professional and advocacy work, she indulges in hobbies like sand volleyball, creative arts, and violin, reflecting her commitment to a balanced and enriching lifestyle. -
Usually, in this spot is Dan and Just the Guys!
Listeners requested a discussion of later-in-life diagnosed women on the spectrum and a discussion of the spectrum's similarities and differences. Stephanie and her daughter Sydney host this special edition of Just the Girls! -
Today, Dr. Stephanie will bring an autism Q&A with Dave Glick.
Dave is a neurodivergent clinician and an autism advocate.
Dave Glick is the founder and director of Triad Psych, P.C., and has been working in the combined fields of behavioral health, special education, and disability services since 1993. Originally trained at Boston University, he has worked as a special education teacher, behavior analyst/specialist, clinical director, disability consultant, and advocate. He holds a master's in both education and social work and is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. Dave founded Triad Psych, p.c. in 2003 to provide valuable resources to the special needs community.
David is also a coach!
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On a recent road trip, we were listening to the Bible Project's Sermon on the Mount Series.
This episode: Episode 10, March 4, 2024, Bible Project Sermon on the Mount Series: How is Anger the Same as Murder? Spoiler alert- when Contempt enters the picture. What does the Bible say about Contempt?
https://bibleproject.com/podcast/how-anger-same-murder/
Short animated clip: Anger, Wrath, Contempt: When is Anger the Same as Murder
https://bibleproject.com/explore/video/matthew-521-22-murder-and-contempt/
When does the Bible equate anger to murder? When does anger cross into criticism and contempt? What is the difference in giving a complaint when there is hurt and harm and criticism?
Gottman offers some antidotes to the 4 Horsemen:
https://www.gottman.com/blog/the-four-horsemen-the-antidotes/
To Criticism: A Gentle Start-Up with How Something Makes You FEEL vs. Commentary on the person
Contempt: Build a Culture of Appreciation; Wilder would call this gratitude and Joy Building
Defensiveness: Set aside your intentions and explanations- take responsibility for the hurt/harm caused, even if only partial
Stonewalling: Psychological Self-Soothing: Self Care- take a break, work through your issues, come back to the discussion/argument
Quote from Gottman Institute: "Another way that we explain this is our discovery of the 5:1 “magic ratio” of positive to negative interactions that a relationship must have to succeed. If you have five or more positive interactions for every one negative interaction, then you’re making regular deposits into your emotional bank account, which keeps your relationship in the green."
Other clinicians or counselors have called this "keep short accounts".
2 min short clip to explain Gottman's 4 Horsemen that are predicted to kill your relationship: Contempt, Criticism, Defensiveness & Stonewalling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o30Ps-_8is
Find out more about your NeuroDiverse Christian Marriage and resources at:
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Join Dr. Holmes as she interviews Robin Tate, a life coach and NeuroDiverse Couples' coach. Today, we discuss Neurodiversity and strategies for executive functioning.
We talk about the chapter in which she contributed to our new book.
Find out more here:
https://www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/uniquelyus
Robin describes a little about herself:
I am a professionally trained teacher and coach passionate about providing my clients with the best experience. As well as training, I have an in-depth understanding of the impacts of living with an Asperger's Profile and/or ADHD in a neurotypical world. My approach to coaching is client-centered and strength-based. I join with clients to work through obstacles and meet self-determined goals. For Neurodivergent adults, challenges are often rooted in neurological differences, which impact communication, executive function, and/or sensory regulation. As an experienced educator, I also understand learning disabilities, learning styles, accommodations, and a toolbox of strategies.
Coaching and education services complement a variety of other professional services. When needed, I easily collaborate with other professionals and family members.
I meet with clients via online video calls (worldwide). I also meet with clients in person, as agreed to be necessary and safe on a case-by-case basis.
Find her at: https://robintatellc.com/ - Visa fler
