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  • In this episode of 'More Than Work,' host Rabiah engages in a profound conversation with Kileen Barry, founder of Kaizen Collective and a sex therapist. They dive into Kileen's journey from digital marketing to therapy, exploring her motivations, influences, and the pivotal books 'Come As You Are' and 'Maybe You Should Talk to Someone.' The discussion covers Kileen's academic path, her unique approach to therapy, which emphasizes a holistic and salutogenic model, and her passion for integrating mental, physical, and nutritional care. The episode also touches on the importance of boundaries, Kileen's self-care practices, and her aspirations for Kaizen Collective. Join Rabiah and Kileen as they uncover the layers of professional and personal evolution, making this more than just work.

    00:00 Introduction to More Than Work Podcast

    00:34 Meet Kileen Barry: Founder and Sex Therapist

    02:04 Kileen's Journey into Therapy

    02:20 From Digital Marketing to Therapy

    03:18 The Impact of Books on Kileen's Career

    04:16 Personal Experiences with Therapy

    09:21 Kileen's Nonprofit Work and Its Influence

    13:57 Understanding Salutogenic Model in Therapy

    24:26 The Importance of Discussing Sex in Therapy

    27:36 Generational Shifts in Attitudes Towards Sex

    30:34 The Wire Monkey Experiment

    31:42 Attachment Styles and Personal Growth

    32:31 Book Recommendations and Attachment Theory

    34:01 Transitioning Careers and Education

    39:27 Starting a Private Practice

    40:02 Holistic Mental Health Approach

    43:31 Maintaining Boundaries as a Therapist

    48:37 Fun and Personal Insights

    53:34 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

    Note from Rabiah (host): It seems that though there are huge gaps between episodes lately, they are also somehow coming right on time, especially since I know what is coming next. Editing this one was a joy and gave me a sense of normalcy that I haven’t had in over a month. I broke my leg and left A&E at 2:30am on my birthday. That wasn’t how I planned to start my year of being 45. But in listening and editing, I appreciated the conversation that I’m now sharing with you because this is a conversation with a friend who I got to learn a lot about and who I wouldn’t have been able to engage with in the same way at 35 or 25. Kileen is full of grace and her career change more than made sense. I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did and am curious about what you, the listener, will take from it.

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    Find Kileen

    PHIIRST

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    polysecure by Jessica Fern

    Dr. Aaron T Beck

    Salvador Minuchin, MD

    Katy Milkman

    Katie Porter

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  • In this captivating episode of 'More Than Work,' our host Rabiah Coon engages with AJ Waters, the visionary behind Stronger Skatepark. From the initial spark of passion for skateboarding to the creation of an inclusive community space, AJ shares the journey of founding Stronger Skatepark. Listeners will gain insights into the hurdles of entrepreneurship, the power of community-building, and the significance of personal growth through adversity. Whether you’re a skateboarding enthusiast, interested in the startup world, or looking for inspiration on overcoming personal challenges, this conversation offers valuable takeaways for all.

    Introduction to AJ Waters: The episode kicks off with Rabiah welcoming listeners and introducing AJ Waters, highlighting their unexpected journey from skateboarding hobbyist to the founder of an inclusive skatepark.

    Starting Stronger Skatepark: AJ delves into the early days of skateboarding, the inspiration behind founding Stronger Skatepark, and how a single event sparked the idea to create a welcoming space for skaters in Portland.

    Challenges and Triumphs: Overcoming financial, legal, and personal hurdles, AJ shares the resilience and determination that carried them through the toughest times while founding the skatepark.

    Running a Business: AJ compares past experiences to the challenges and rewards of running Stronger Skateparks, drawing parallels between caregiving and entrepreneurship.

    Inclusivity in Skateboarding: Emphasizing the core value of Stronger Skatepark, AJ discusses efforts to create a skate park where everyone, regardless of age or ability, feels welcome.

    Personal Journey and Mental Health: AJ opens up about their personal growth, mental health journey, gender and sexual identity, and the profound impact of creating a space that supports diversity and accessibility.

    Expanding During a Pandemic: AJ recounts the challenges and opportunities of expanding Stronger Skate Parks despite the pandemic, underscoring the importance of community support in uncertain times.

    Advice and Personal Insights: Wrapping up the episode, AJ shares wisdom on the importance of slowing down and being mindful amidst life's busyness, offering listeners a moment of reflection.

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    This episode was recorded last year but of course delayed until now. As I mention at the start of the episode, AJ was introduced to me via friend of the pod (and friend of me) Eriko Ono who knows AJ from the Portland, OR skate scene. In December, after the podcast was already recorded, we got to meet in person and I got to see Stronger Skatepark myself. It is a special place. I even bought a sweater that is too cool for me to own but I wear it anyway! This is a fun interview and a very open discussion I enjoyed with AJ. I appreciate so much when my guests are willing to talk about things that could be difficult. In addition to talking about the work AJ is passionate about, as a trans man, he was willing to answer some of my questions about his transition which gave me a rare insight into that experience as it will you, the listener. Enjoy the episode and let me know if you visit the skate park!

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    Find AJ

    Stronger Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stronger_skatepark 

    Stronger Website: https://www.strongerskatepark.com/ 

    AJ’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/a_j_waters 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Skate Like a Girl:

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  • In this episode of 'More Than Work', a podcast on personal and professional fulfillment, host Rabiah engages in an insightful discussion with Jessica Berg. Berg is the founder of 'Moon Rock Wellness', a digital platform designed to help busy individuals, particularly working mothers, cultivate everyday habits of wellness. Jessica shares her personal journey leading to the creation of Moon Rock Wellness, including a life-altering encounter with burnout that led her to prioritize her well-being and set boundaries in her corporate job. She also discusses the importance of maintaining balance, practicing daily mindfulness, and investing time and energy into activities that genuinely fulfill us.

    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

    00:36 Guest Introduction: Jessica Berg

    00:55 Getting to Know Jessica: Personal Life and Location

    01:46 Introduction to Moon Rock Wellness

    01:56 The Importance of Consistent Wellness Practices

    02:56 Personal Wellness Journeys and Challenges

    03:44 The Impact of Motherhood on Wellness

    07:28 The Role of Mindfulness in Everyday Life

    10:59 Exploring Moon Rock Wellness: Services and Impact

    14:32 The Journey to Founding Moon Rock Wellness

    18:53 Balancing Corporate Life and Passion Projects

    24:06 Addressing Burnout: A Personal Experience

    25:40 The Impact of Burnout on Personal Life

    26:34 Taking Action: Setting Boundaries at Work

    26:56 The Importance of Communication in Setting Boundaries

    27:30 The Struggle of Balancing Work and Personal Life

    30:20 The Power of Doing Nothing: Embracing Breaks

    32:40 The Influence of Passion Projects on Work

    33:34 The Power of Scheduling and Time Management

    42:08 The Joy and Inspiration from Children

    43:34 Connecting with Moon Rock Wellness

    45:01 Conclusion: The Importance of Kindness to Self

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    It has been a while. For personal reasons and comedy reasons I had to put a pause on the pod until I was ready to commit the time and effort again but now, More Than Work is back! Thank you for checking out this episode. Jessica was easy to talk to and may inspire you to take 5 minutes for yourself. She has done that for me. I’ll leave you to it, listener. Be sure to check out other episodes too. I’m happy to have you here!

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    Find Jessica

    Website: www.moonrockwellness.com 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moon_rock_wellness 

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  • Fernando Kabigting: From Corporate to Creative Life

    In this episode of More Than Work, host Rabiah Coon talks with their guest, Fernando Kabigting. They delve into Fernando's life-changing decision to leave his corporate job in fashion to enter the creative industry, specifically floral design. Fernando touches on his experiences from starting in advertising, transitioning to fashion, to eventually establishing his own business that transcends traditional floral design. He also discusses his motivations, personal values, and commitment to sustainable and responsible practices in his work. Lastly, he shares how important it is to see yourself represented in an industry and forging your own way as an immigrant.

    00:08 Introduction

    00:50 Welcome Fernando

    01:49 Fernando's Journey into Fashion

    05:04 Transition to Floral Design

    07:41 Creating a Sustainable Business

    17:57 Reflections on Identity and Business

    36:20 Dealing with Overwork & Achieving Balance

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    After admiring Fernando’s work from afar for quite a while, I finally reached out to ask him to be on the podcast. In the past, we lived in the same city and I got to see first-hand what a dynamic person he is but getting the chance to talk to him about what motivates him reminded me of the importance of sharing stories and showing who we are. This episode felt like why I created the podcast. 

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    Find Fernando

    Website: https://www.fdkflorals.com 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fdk_florals 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Jonathan Anderson https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.anderson/

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  • In this episode of 'More Than Work', Rabiah, an IT professional and stand-up comedian, talks to guest Sean Arkless about his journey from low self-confidence and working in retail to becoming the co-founder of Sjark Limited and vocalist of the London based band, 'Hello Amnesia'. Sean shares his experiences as a freelancer and his decision to start his own music production company. He also discusses his ongoing Master's degree in Musical Theater, the role of mentors in his career development, the value of being assertive and possessing a 'learn and seek' mindset. Sean's advice is to 'live fearlessly and choose your own adventures', encouraging others to pursue their dreams and never give up despite challenges. The podcast ends with Sean providing information on where listeners can find more about his work.

    00:08 Introduction to the Podcast

    00:37 Guest Introduction: Sean Arkless

    01:04 Sean's Journey to London

    01:45 Sean's Educational Background and Career Path

    03:15 Sean's Passion for Musical Theater

    04:49 The Art of Storytelling through Musical Theater

    06:09 Sean's Journey into Sound Engineering

    10:25 The Birth of Sjark Limited

    13:08 Solving Industry Problems through Sjark Limited

    20:12 The Story of Hello Amnesia

    22:47 The Band's First Gig and the Impact

    23:16 The Story Behind the Band's Name

    25:36 Musical Influences and Discoveries

    29:22 The Journey from New Zealand to England

    30:01 Overcoming Challenges and Finding Inspiration

    32:28 The Turning Point: A Concert Experience

    33:55 The Power of Determination and Dreams

    34:58 Fun Five: Getting to Know More About Sean

    41:03 Where to Find Sean and His Music

    42:17 Wrapping Up the Conversation

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    So, I’ll be honest, this is the first time I’ve used AI to write the bulk of my show notes and I’m super impressed but this part is me, the HI (human intelligence entity, Rabiah). Sean and I met at a gig I was doing which was a variety show with super talented people he went to school with. He was cool and we went to a concert together (which we talk about here) and then another concert and I’ve seen him perform, and I’m so glad you get to hear him now.

    There have been some gaps in me posting so if you’ve been waiting a while, I’m sorry. I needed a break, again. I’m trying to get the great interviews I have in the can out to you sooner than later though. Thanks for sticking with me! And if you’re new, don’t stop listening at this episode. There really many great ones to come and over a hundred from the past. Thanks for being here. 

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    Find Sean

    Sjark Limited: www.sjark.co.uk 

    Sean’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanarklessmusic

    Hello, Amnesia: https://www.instagram.com/Hello_Amnesia 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Rock the Rock Records (Hawaii): https://rocktherockrecords.com/ 

    Scotty Rockstar: https://www.instagram.com/scottyrockstar/ 

    Lasse Corus: https://www.lassecorus.com/ 

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  • This week’s guest is Mark Nicholas, comedian, comedy workshop leader and tutor. 

    After getting his comedy start while on an extended trip to Vietnam, Mark has been working his way around the London comedy circuit. He created his show Laugh-Able to be an inclusive space for acts with disabilities. Being autistic himself and coming from a family of those serving or caring for others with disabilities, he is an advocate and activist in that space.

    Before all of this, Mark started work he continues today. During college, he was working in a bar and realized it wasn’t for him when he saw an ad on Gumtree that led to him working as a tutor and then in special education. He talks about all of this and his work as a union rep in the episode.

    We talk about:

    Mark’s path from drama class to comedyComing to terms with being autistic and the support Mark received from his familyWhy Mark left his career in the formal education system and went into private tutoringSetting up his own comedy night for disabled acts (LaughAble)Inclusion

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    Mark and I met at a gig, while doing the Zoom circuit during lockdown. You’ll be listening to a chat between me and a colleague but also me and a friend. He has included me in his shows and made me more comfortable talking about having Multiple Sclerosis (MS) on stage and off. He’s a funny guy and we share a few laughs on the episode but also share an important chat. It is a privilege to get to learn about my friends in this way and to share the chat with you. 

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    Find Mark

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marknicholasstandupcomedian 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marknicholascomic 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marknicholascomic 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/mnicholascomic 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Laugh-ABLE Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laughablecomedynight 

    Laugh-ABLE: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laughablecomedynight/ 

    Laugh-ABLE Twitter: https://twitter.com/laughable_night

    Tamsyn Kelly: https://www.instagram.com/tamsynkelly/ 

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  • This week’s guest is Dr. Jeanne Retief, founder of FIGGI. FIGGI a community created out of career change and wanting to share with others and be a support system, and self-care products.

    Dr. Retief earned a PhD in Human Rights and Criminal Law. And ran a Human Rights consultancy in South Africa for 13 years. After moving to her current location in Portugal, things changed for her, in more ways than one, including a diagnosis with panic disorder and founding a new company. Having already earned a PhD, she even went back to school to learn about cosmetic chemistry! 

    In this chat we talk about:

    Getting diagnosed with panic disorderManaging mental healthCareer changeFIGGI the community and skincare line she foundedThe FIGGI blog and podcastRooibos

    TW: abuse

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    I took a bit of a break. And it is almost too appropriate that my first episode back is this one given the openness around mental health that Dr. Retief brought to the conversation. Why did I take a break? Overwhelm. And other things. I would say it was a choice but it was a necessity. For those listening for the first time, thank you for being here. And to those who checked in because they didn’t hear a new episode in a while or those who are back after time passed, thank you too! There are over 100 more episodes in the backlog with fantastic guests and more to come! 

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    Find Dr. Retief

    Website: https://www.figgilife.com/ 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanne_figgilife/ 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075876828370 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Dr. Edith Eger: https://dreditheger.com/ 

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  • his week’s guest is Elizabeth Mhangami, social entrepreneur.

    Lizz grew up in Zimbabwe and moved to the US when she was 19. After working in various jobs including at the Chicago Athletic Foundation, she also earned her bachelor’s degree at Loyola University. She then started the job that would define her career so far, working with young people from underserved communities. 

    Prior to moving to the states the first time, Lizz was part of the Rotary international as a youth. Her later work with Rotaract started her thinking more about youth communities, especially at home. She founded Vanavevhu, a 5013c for kids in Zimbabwe, many who are heads of household. She ran the organization for 7 years and has handed over the day to day operations. Now, she is back in the US and heading up major gifts at the Mikva Challenge in Chicago. 

    We talk about her childhood through adulthood and the influences and experiences that led to to a path of working in and leading service organisations. 

    Topic we discuss:

    Youth service organizationsImpact of having a mother who was engaged in serviceImmigrating to the USPoverty in AmericaWorking with underserved communitiesBeing a founder and what that entails

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    This conversation was a long time coming since Lizz and I became acquaintances, virtually, and would often joke around but then would also get into serious conversations. It was a pleasure to bring this experience to More Than Work to share with you! She is a wonderfully interesting and intelligent person who has dedicated her career to serving youth. I learned so much about her experiences moving to the US from Zimbabwe and you will too. I hope you enjoy this insightful and also joyful discussion. Maybe it’ll inspire you too.

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    Find Elizabeth

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emhangami/

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Vanavevhu: http://www.vanavevhu.org/

    Rotary International: https://www.rotary.org/en 

    bell hooks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_hooks 

    Mikva Challenge: https://mikvachallenge.org/ 

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  • This week’s guest is John El-Maraghy, non-profit professional, and Director at Archangel Raphael's Mission (ARM).

    John is was born and raised in New Jersey where he is currently based. He started his career in impact consulting and then transitioned into non-profit. He made the move when during a time of self-discovery, he he realised he wanted to be of service. 

    For John, it is important for him to believe in the mission of the organization that he is working for whether it is non-profit or for profit and in both his full-time job and his volunteering with ARM he has found that. 

    ARM was founded to be a support system for people in need. After starting out as a food service organisation, they shifted their focus to health and hygiene interventions providing mobile showers and a mobile barbershop. 

    Topics covered:

    Career transition

    Service to others

    Finding your purpose

    Treating others with humanity and dignity

    Importance of being aligned with an organization’s mission in any type of work

    How to get into volunteering

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    You won’t hear it but I had SO much trouble saying the name of the organization! Thank goodness for acronyms. I learned that Archangel Rafael is the patron saint of healing and the work that ARM does definitely serves that purpose. John and I spoke about ARM’s affiliation with a church but how the involvement of the church doesn’t extend to evangelism. It is so important that when any of us set out to do charitable work as individuals or organisations, that we remove personal gain from the objectives and that’s just what happens here. I mention it to John but one thing I really appreciated in our talk, besides how he is going about giving, is the respect he has for the people he is serving in the way he talks about them. It is something I’ve thought about again in editing. I volunteer for a charity that serves the homeless in London and often think about how people are treated depending on their social status.

    Sorry it has been so long since the last episode. If you’re listening for the first time, I hope you’ll go back and listen to the 100+ episodes that have been published and join us next time!

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    Find ARM

    Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/armgives

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/armgives

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/armgives

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@armgives

    Website: https://arm.gives/

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Lava Mae https://lavamaex.org/

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  • This week’s guest is Rani Puranik, EVP and Global CFO of Worldwide Oilfield Machine (WOM). She is also the founder of a leadership coaching company and the author of a book that launched just the day before this episode dropped! 

    At WOM, work is done around sustainability though environmentally responsible energy production and a focus on the people. We talk about sustainability and the broader definition making decisions for long-term in business.

    Rani grew up in US and moved to India for singing at the age of 17. It wasn’t her first time in India though. There, she started own business, which teaches leadership through the power of dance. Eventually, she returned to the US and to WOM where she ended up creating an HR department when seeing the need in the business which was a focus on the human element of the business.

    The self-described people person, which is evidenced from the start in our conversation recently published a book. “Seven Letters to My Daughters” was written as a gift to her daughters. 

    Learn about Rani’s path from the US to India and back plus her focus on the arts, people and business. Also, get insights into the book you’ll end up wanting to read for sure. 

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    This chat surprised me because I didn’t know much about Rani other than what I read online and I knew right when I saw her on the Squadcast split screen that it was going to be a fantastic chat. I love that she used a spreadsheet to write her book! During editing, I was reminded of the positivity she brought to me on a particularly rough work day. Oddly enough, I had a similar day when I was editing and wish again that I’d shown up better though I wish others would too! Enjoy the listen and check out her book. I’m going to! Thank you for being here.

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    Find Rani

    Website: https://www.ranipuranik.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ranipuranik 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ranipuranik 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rani-puranik/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4g_tBTbqhrMDhyqs0Tn4OA?app=desktop 

    Seven Letters to my Daughter (book): https://amzn.to/3OE76ua 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Steve Martin

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  • This week’s guest is Christopher Kenna, founder and CEO North America at Brand Advance Group. 

    In this open and honest chat we get into Chris’s life growing up in Northern England in care homes, his time in the Army, working as a TV presenter and then founding his own company. Listen for details. The story is best told by him!

    In discussing the important work of Brand Advance Group which seeks to expand representation in advertising and companies’ reach to underrepresented communities, Chris is generous in talking about the reality of being a person of colour and an LGBTQ+ person both inside and outside corporate spaces. We also talk about inclusion of people with different abilities in this dynamic chat. 

    In this episode we dig into:

    Representation of everyone in advertisingDEI for brands and companiesWhat it means to really be inclusive. Hint: it isn’t just hiring someonePink, green, etc. “-washing” by brandsAllyship and advocacy Taking care of yourself and othersCreating opportunities where people can be successful from any backgroundChris’ own experiences and getting to where he is today

    Note from Rabiah (Host):

    Firstly, it has been a while. For quite a few reasons, I couldn’t get an episode edited or out for a while. I think I’ve sorted all of that. Thank you for being here whether you have been waiting a while or it is your first time.

    I mention it in the episode but need to say more about the experience of meeting Chris for the first time. We both spoke at an event for a company that is actually under the same Groupe as where I work. I’d say it was by chance but I don’t think that much happens just by chance. I was added as a speaker last minute. Though I perform comedy a few times a week, I don’t give talks about me, about Multiple Sclerosis or about ableism but with a day to prepare, I did. It was clunky but ok. Then, I witnessed Chris talk about his life, his work and the world we are all living in. I was taken aback and had to have him on the podcast. I wanted more people to hear him. I wanted you to hear him, whoever you are. I’d love to hear what you think if you want to share. 

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    Find Chris

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskenna/ 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chris.kenna/ 

    Brand Advanced Group: https://www.wearebrandadvance.com/ 

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  • This week’s guest is Maz Alexander, social worker, mental wellbeing coach, comedian and passionate entrepreneur.

    Maz started out working as a social worker in adult social care. A thread you’ll hear in here story, and one to keep in mind as you listen, is that she listened to the advice of others when it made sense to and listened to herself as well when she decided on what work to pursue.

    Before her time in social work, Maz got a degree in performance arts and gave acting a go. Coming out of that, she was always passionate about drama therapy and using performing arts to help people in recovery which has served her in social work and serves her in what she does today.

    In 2018, she qualified in Transformational Coaching and she is a coach today while she also works part time in social work. We chat the difference between what a coach and a therapist can give you. Oh, and the time she had to refer a client not to a therapist but to a priest!

    For those considering therapy or coaching, you may also be interested in what Maz says about how to choose the right provider for you. It starts with a consultation.

    Outside of work, Maz is a stand up comic and a podcaster. In fact, there is a link below the the episode of her podcast “Kintsugi Queens” that the host of this podcast was a guest on! As a stand up comedian, Maz jokes about her life (which she says is a joke in itself). We cover all of this and more in this episode.

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    On the comedy circuit, I get to meet a lot of wonderful characters. There are gigs I look forward to because of who I’ll get to hang out with as we wait to take the stage. Maz is one of the people I always look forward to connecting with and I’m so glad we got to learn about each other more as we guested on each other’s respective podcasts. Enjoy the listen!

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    Find Maz

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maz-alexander-318851a9/ 

    Google “Maz transformational coaching”

    Website: https://maztransformationalcoaching.com/coaching/ 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Whoopi Goldberg

    Myron Golden

    Rabiah on Kintsugi Queens podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5zC7NK36kBF9ABKrz6QFBk?si=70f7105f99cf42ad

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  • This week’s guest is Rich Wilson, stand up comedian and host of the podcast Insane in the Men Brain.

    Rich did everything before he became a stand up comic having wanted to be a chef and then a mechanic. Eventually, he was a barman at Up the Creek and after some encouragement, took the stage. After about 20 years, he hasn’t stopped yet. The story is more entertaining with told by Rich so listen for more!

    In fact, the entire episode is funnier and more poignant than I can make it in this write up. We chat about:

    Rich’s career in comedyComedic influencesLouis CKInsane in the Men Brain and mental healthLearning from doing the podcastSaying yesMusic, television and TK MaxxAgingAnd more…

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    I laughed while editing this episode…a lot. It was so cool to sit down with Rich, virtually, and have this chat. I have a bad track record when it comes to the people I put up on a pedestal sometimes but since a lot of times, Rich is already on a stage, the pedestal isn’t too far a reach and he is really great. I’m excited that listeners will get to know him and also, a few interactions with his wife, fellow comedian Kate McGann added to the levity. I think sometimes things got more serious than expected but if you’ve listened before, you know that’s part of it. And do let us know what you said “yes” to after listening! 

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    Find Rich

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/iamrichwilson 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/iamrichwilson 

    Website: https://www.richwilsoncomedian.com/ 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Kate McGann: https://www.instagram.com/katemcgannarang/ 

    Eddie Murphy: https://www.facebook.com/EddieMurphy 

    Richard Pryor: https://www.richardpryor.com/ 

    Louis CK: https://www.instagram.com/louisckx/

    The Artist’s Way: https://www.theartistswaybook.com/ 

    Insane in the Men Brain: https://play.acast.com/s/insaneinthemenbrain 

    Islington Radio: https://islingtonradio.co.uk/ 

    Shazam: https://www.shazam.com/ 

    Philip Simon: https://www.philipsimon.co.uk 

    Vix Leyton: https://www.vixleyton.co.uk/ 

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  • This week’s guest is Stefania Licari, actor, comedian, producer and medical doctor.

    She attended drama school, became a doctor working in anaesthetics and intensive care, and went to clowning school in Paris. We get into all of this and how empathy towards her colleagues, patients and the audience really tie it all together.

    During the pandemic, Stefania has a unique experience both working in medicine and as an actor doing online performances. She got through it with a mindset shift that she shares which would be useful for anyone at any time, even outside lockdowns.

    We start with her reflections on her first Edinburgh Fringe in 2022. She is currently revamping her one-woman show, Medica, and taking it to the Vault Festival in London.

    We chat about:

    Empathy and impact on patientsEmpathy as it occurs in actingHer love of the audiencePursuing both a medical career and a theatre oneHaving the right people around at the right timePerforming as an actor and a comicThe impact of Philippe Gaulier

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    You’ll hear that I almost saw Stefania’s show at Edinburgh. It was a wonderful and stressful time when I was at Fringe for a week. I loved the flying I did and helping a friend and loved seeing shows. I also performed more than I expected to and missed shows I wanted to see. I still have one person I have meant to write to since August to apologise! Stefania and I became online friends via Twitter and Instagram and I have been thrilled to see how her show has progressed. I’ll be there to see the updated version in February and can’t wait. One of the best parts of being involved in entertainment is being able to celebrate the talents of others while also being assured enough in yourself to do so. I am so happy Stefania is teaching me that. 

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    Find Stefania

    Website: https://www.stefanialicari.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/licaristefania/ 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/stefanialicari 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/licaristefania/ 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe7fzGcBE_oSyuwdW2ncRPA 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Philippe Gaulier: https://www.ecolephilippegaulier.com/ 

    Chris Head: https://www.chrishead.com/ 

    Kristine Landon-Smith: https://kristinelandonsmith.com/ 

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  • This week’s guests are James Cameron and Joe James from True Strays. True Strays is an Americana band. 

    I spoke with the guys in December of 2022. So, when they talk about “next year”, they mean this year, 2023. They are going on tour so check them out in the UK! If you’re not in the UK, then listen to them online.

    The childhood friends were recording their debut album when the pandemic hit in 2020 and had to figure out how to move forward. They launched a Kickstarter campaign and found success there and that they already had some great fans in their corner.

    Both of the guys work full-time jobs outside of the band and then focus on the band during nights and weekends! One is a roofer and one is a primary school teacher. You’ll need to listen to find out who does what.

    Topics we get into:

    Pursuing creativity after the day job endsMusical influences and AmericanaSongwriting and lyric subject-matterLive performanceThe importance of collaborating versus working aloneEntertaining and bringing people together through music

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    You’ll hear at the end how I met True Strays. This was a fun chat because they guys were super giving and thoughtful with their answers but also because it took me back to my days at Piratepods, my first podcast, where friends and I spoke to musicians. I have tickets to see the band later in the year and can’t wait. Enjoy the chat and check out their music!

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    Find True Strays

    Website: trustrays.com 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/truestrays/ 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/true_strays/ 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/truestrays 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiTnmZC4kocsdBRH-6YQqzg 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Rob Heron and the Tea Pad Orchestra: https://teapadorchestra.co.uk/ 

    Ann Liu Cannon: https://www.instagram.com/annliucannon 

    Spiritual Bar: https://www.spiritualrecords.co.uk/ 

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  • This week’s guest is Sharon Glassman, designer, songwriter and founder of Smile Songs. 

    The Colorado-based Smile Songs incorporates all of Sharon’s talents into a line of musical cards and gifts. In addition to containing original music by Sharon, Smile Songs products are unique because they use QR codes to deliver the sound which is better for the environment than traditional musical cards that utilize plastic parts for example. Though QR codes are common place after 2020, she started using them in 2013 and we chat about that.

    In college, Sharon majored in journalism school. She then got accepted into law school and made a deal with her dad that she would defer for a year and attend. She ended up taking an entirely different path! 

    Prior to founding Smile Songs, Sharon had a hybrid career. She was a voice over artist. She was also a writer for the ads department at MTV Networks where she applied her love of music to the ads she and the team worked on and created. After working at MTV, she performing and telling stories on stage, touring the country. Meanwhile, she was acquiring skills, teaching herself digital illustration, print production and music production.

    Musically, Sharon has had another path having previously joined community orchestra. Then, through a misunderstood Craigslist ad she became the fiddler of a country rock band. Now she is in an all-woman bluegrass project called Five Foot Betty.

    Topics we cover:

    History of QR CodesThe story of Smile Songs and the ideation process that went into creating the products and businessIncorporating creativity into a careerWriting and telling stories on stageSongwritingTrusting your gut and making hard decisions

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    After getting off of the recording call with Sharon, I was so excited I would get to listen back to our conversation. It was such a joy to hear about the path she took to get to where she is today and it already sounds like we’ll need to speak again because she has so much in the works. We share a passion for sharing stories and it was a true pleasure to get to hear hers and to share it with you, the listener. 

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    Find Sharon

    Website: https://smilesongs.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/smile_songs/ 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Spalding Gray: https://www.spaldinggray.com/ 

    Eric Bagosian: http://100monologues.com/ 

    Tales of Whatever: https://www.facebook.com/talesofwhatever/ 

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  • This week’s guest is Tamara Doerksen, multi-preneur, published author, yoga and meditation and mindfulness teacher, and a career transition and entrepreneur coach. She’s also the founder of the non-profit organization, Lonny’s Smile.

    I chatted with Tamara from her home in Toronto, Canada. She started her career at a global consulting company where she spent 25 years. Around 2010, an initiative of the company around community contribution and responsibility, along with some personal circumstances with ailing parents, set Tamara off on her path to founding her own non-profit. You’ll hear the entire story around Lonny’s Smile which helps kids with congenital heart defects including the absolute synergy that led to choosing Camp OKI, the benefactor of the non-profit.

    Through her work with Great Big Sea’s Murray Foster, Tamara ended up working in film production and then collaborating with Darren Portelli at Crazy D’s Prebiotic Sparkling Sodas. In talking through Tamara’s career transitions, we delve into having faith in oneself, transferable skills and our abilities to pursue various occupations within our careers. 

    Tamara uses yoga and meditation to ground herself and give her space. And, she is certified to teach both! Some just practiced these things during the pandemic, others like Tamara got certified!

    Main topics:

    Having multiple facets to your careerProcessing grief over timeNon-profit work and founding a non-profitYoga and mindfulness practicesSaying “yes” and pursuing what you love

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    I have had a chance to speak with quite a few people and sometimes I have a different connection with them. In this case, Tamara and I both lost a sibling though at very different times in our lives under different circumstances. (TW: we talk about the death of a sibling.) Her honouring her brother through a non-profit organization is something I really wanted to chat with her about and then we had a lot more to talk about too! Enjoy!

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    Find Tamara

    Tamara’s Website: https://www.tamaradoerksen.com/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/tdoerksen 

    Insight Timer: https://insighttimer.com/tamaradoerksen 

    Lonny’s Smile Website: https://lonnyssmile.org/ 

    Lonny’s Smile Twitter: https://twitter.com/lonnyssmile 

    Lonny’s Smile Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lonnyssmile

    Lonny’s Smile Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lonnys.smile/ 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Murray Foster: http://www.murrayfoster.ca/about/ 

    Darren Portelli: https://twitter.com/darrenportelli 

    City of Toronto: https://www.toronto.ca/ 

    Salvation Army Canada: https://salvationarmy.ca/ 

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  • This week’s guest is Diana Indries, the founder of Better Topics Card Games.Better Topics born out of Diana’s interest in relationships and learning to communicate within those. Relationships are very important to her. So important In fact, that she recently moved from England back home to Romania. 

    Diana believes the keys to a great relationship are communication and fun. She also believes that anyone can have a great relationship if they want to!

    Diana and her husband started working on Better Topics well ahead of 2020 but really saw the need once people were locked in with each other and didn’t know where to start communicating. Prior to working full time on this company, she was working in the NHS. After a successful Kickstarter campaign, she quit her job to pursue Better Topics.

    In the past, Diana and her husband played other card games for couples and realised that none of them did much to increase communication. A lot of them were not even games but just questions that could only be answered once. They sought to remedy that and ask questions that can be repeated over time as their answer would change.

    In founding her own business, Diana discovered her creativity. And, it is on her days off that her creativity is the most inspired. Hear her story, what her company is about and her advice on relationships. 

    Topics covered:

    The importance of setting aside specific time to spend together as a coupleHow better communication can lead to behaviour changes that allow people to provide what each other needHaving fun in a relationshipLeaving a 9-to-5 and starting your own business in an area you’re passionate about; that’s relationships and games in Diana’s caseDiscovering creativity in yourself

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    Find Diana

    Better Topics website: https://www.bettertopics.com/ 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BetterTopicsOfficial 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bettertopics/ 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/BetterTopicsOf 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BetterTopicsCardGameforCouples 

    Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dianaindries/better-topics-the-dating-game

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  • This week’s guest is Chef Dennis, the founder of the food blog, Ask Chef Dennis. Incidentally, he is also a chef!

    Dennis was always a fan of food. He gained early inspiration was Graham Kerr, an Australian television chef who showed him how great you could make people feel by cooking for them.

    Professionally, he started out as a prep cook, carefully observing the chefs with the aspiration of moving into that role. After a chef at the restaurant he was working in was injured during a busy weekend, Dennis got his big break.

    Later, following a bout with carpal tunnel, Dennis moved into business dining for a time and then on to a school where he revamped the dining program and also stared educating students on cooking. His blogging stared as an output of what he was teaching at the school and eventually grew to have a worldwide following!

    Some key points we hit:

    Dennis’ path of trying to do a lot of things and finding out what he wanted to doIntroducing change to an organizationHow people can get satisfaction from cooking for themselves

    In addition to cooking personally, Dennis enjoys reading and music. He also became a travel blogger almost by accident and enjoys trying the cuisine in all different places and telling people about it.

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    It was so funny when Chef Dennis mentioned Graham Kerr because I too watched his show but not to the same end. He was wild! And it was a lot of fun to watch his cooking show. I am not someone who ever watched the Food Network but I have been entertained by some chefs. What I like about Chef Dennis is that he always ends up going back to what he loves, which is food, no matter how is is lead to it. 

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    Find Chef Dennis

    Website: https://www.askchefdennis.com/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AskChefDennis/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/askchefdennis/ 

    Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/askchefdennis/ 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/askchefdennis/ 

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/askchefdennis 

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  • This week’s guest is Patrick Alcoke, marketing entrepreneur and co-founder of Find Your Steady. We chatted via SquadCast from his living room in Maryland and mine in London, UK. 

    Patrick’s career started out with him pursuing music after college. He moved to California and was touring the country in a band. Eventually though, he put that dream aside to pursue a different career path. We discuss his relationship with music today which is a lot different than it was from ages 15 - 27.

    Patrick co-founded Find Your Steady, a mindful candle company, with his friend Brian. The two played in a band together at Virginia Tech. During the pandemic, while keeping their own respective mental health in check with their routines, they ended up combining Patrick’s meditation with Brian’s candle-making to produce their line of candle gifts complete with a web app of de-stressing tools and a journal.

    Key points we hit:

    How Patrick manages stress of parenting, entrepreneur and personWhy he set out to help people manage their stressPrioritising his company’s mission above other distractionsPatrick’s mindfulness and health practicesThe pursuit of what you are passionate about and what that means for your passion

    Note from Rabiah (Host): 

    I have met with a few of my former classmates and colleagues and every time the chats are so rewarding. I find it a privilege to get to see what people have been up to years after we first met or even had contact in some cases and that’s how it was with Patrick. “Drink water” is something we say a few times during the chat and that has struck me. I have even formed a new, healthy habit since we chatted. It’s drinking more water! 

    I left the podcast light and didn’t do a spoken intro because when I tried it was a rant. I want to state very clearly here that I stand with my Jewish friends and and the Jewish people. Kanye West’s disgusting anti-semitism is only the tip of the iceberg of what hate is expressed and if my putting this in writing offends someone then I hope they get help, get knowledge and change. Adidas finally cut his contract but that won’t stop what is happening to people all over. I may do an intro next week but this week, it was important to put it in writing.

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    Find Patrick

    Find Your Steady site: https://findyoursteady.com/ 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Johann Hari, https://stolenfocusbook.com/

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