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  • The last time Em Beihold was on More or Less, her breakout single Numb Little Bug was everywhere. Since then, life has changed and she’s no longer “a little bit tired of life.”

    Back with her debut album Tales of a Failed Shapeshifter, Em opens up about depression, jealousy, and the pressure to recreate viral success. She shares her experiences with outpatient therapy, medication, and navigating identity as a 'pop girl'.

    As our first returning guest, Em and Jess discuss growth, healing, and what it really means to be a “mental health advocate."

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    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Travie McCoy of Gym Class Heroes joins Jess for an incredibly candid conversation on moving from the chaos of fame to living fully in simplicity.

    The frontman reflects on intense isolation, periods of self-medicating, and how addiction shaped his twenties.

    Best known for hits like Cupid’s Chokehold and Billionaire, Travie spills the story behind the name Gym Class Heroes and reminisces about iconic moments on Warped Tour and Jingle Ball.

    Disclaimer: This episode reflects personal experiences with substance use and addiction and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult a qualified healthcare professional.

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    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

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  • Alec Duckart, the creative force behind Searows, talks creativity, identity, and songwriting. We dive into his latest cinematic album, finding community in the music industry, and the freedom of genre-bending.

    This episode is a refreshing reminder to take a deep breath & remain present when life feels overwhelming.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • In honor of World Mental Health Day, we brought the More or Less community together IRL for a night of honest conversation, music, and connection.

    Joined by singer-songwriter Rosie, this unforgettable evening featured a live podcast recording, audience Q&A, and a stunning performance.

    Jess reflects on the past five years of More or Less....the growth, the challenges, and what it truly means to hold space for others. Over the past few years, ‪Rosie has brought a new definition to “unfiltered,” choosing not to edit her photos or wear makeup and embracing her natural features. Navigating depression and anxiety, she opens up about her mental health journey, sharing how she practices self-compassion and manages her inner critic.Here’s to creating space for mental health and another five years of conversations like this one. 💛

    Credits:Host & Executive Producer: Jessica McDevittLead A/V Producer & Editor: Remy HernandezAssistant Camera: Miles KellyLocation: The Bridge Studio

  • Six months into performing, Daya was already playing arenas and winning a GRAMMY - all before she turned 18. She then made the bold choice to pause and rediscover who she was beyond the spotlight.

    Nine years later, she returns with a new album, Til Every Petal Drops - her deepest project yet.

    In this episode, Daya opens up about her early success with “Hide Away” and “Don’t Let Me Down,” growing up in the public eye, and how stepping away helped her find a more grounded version of herself.

    A conversation on fame, identity, healing, and the power of leaning on your support system through it all.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Multi-platinum, GRAMMY-nominated Mary Lambert first captured hearts with Macklemore’s “Same Love.” Now, she’s back with her powerful new single “The Tempest” and a full album on the way.

    Mary opens up about her lifelong journey of healing…from confronting shame and embracing self-compassion to living authentically. She reflects on the activism that shaped her career and the liberating act of producing her own music.

    In this episode, she and Jess explore the intersectionality of mental health, body image, altruism, and creativity. They talk about staying grounded and intentional in a world that often demands performance over presence, the role of community and creativity in healing, and the power of giving yourself permission to feel it all.

    If this conversation brings up heavy feelings, you are not alone: text HOME to 741741 (Crisis Text Line) or call RAINN at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) for confidential support.

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    🔗 Mary Lambert Links:

    Stay connected with Mary here.⁠⁠

    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Debbii Dawson was born with music in her DNA... literally, her mother gave birth on tour (Debbii's parents were traveling musicians!)

    This first-generation singer-songwriter has toured the globe alongside The Beaches, Orville Peck, and Role Model. A gifted lyricist, she finds songwriting inspiration from quiet observers like Emily Dickinson.

    In this episode, Debbii opens up about growing up with music, navigating nerves + social anxiety, and finding joy in the small moments.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Rachel Grae joins the podcast for a conversation close to home - literally... we both grew up in NJ with dads who love Springsteen.

    In this episode, we get to know the girl behind the pop music as Rachel shares the quirks that keep her human... her caffeine obsession, doomscrolling, and a shopping addiction.

    Ahead of her upcoming European tour and new album, she opens up about how songwriting serves as therapy, staying present during her Lollapalooza debut, and the impact of Julia Cameron's The Artist’s Way,

    This one's a must-listen. It's raw, real, and refreshingly relatable, more or less.

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    🔗 Rachel Grae Links:

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Fellow Jersey girl, Natalie Jane kicks off Season 7 of the pod ahead of her debut album, The World I Didn’t Want.

    She opens up about choosing music over college, her love for art, and cultivating more female friendships. Natalie also shares her wellness routines, how she navigates self-doubt, and what it takes to stay authentic while building a career in pop music.

    This conversation is equally lighthearted and vulnerable, inspiring listeners to create the world they do want.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • In this episode, Canadian singer-songwriter, Lauren Spencer Smith gets real about the emotional highs and lows behind her new album, The Art of Being a Mess.She opens up about navigating friendship breakups, staying grounded while living in LA, and why she’s choosing more sleep, less sugar, and a whole lot more intention.We also dive into online hate, setting boundaries with social media, and how her connection with fans keeps her going. Plus, Lauren shares why she’s passionate about giving back — including her work with Plus1 to support youth experiencing homelessness and addiction recovery.It’s a raw, refreshing convo about growth, self-love, and showing up as your full, messy, beautiful self.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Grammy-winning artist Kevin Olusola of Pentatonix gets real about identity, creativity, and the heart behind his very first solo album, Dawn of a Misfit.

    Known for blending classical music with modern storytelling, Kevin opens up about how his Nigerian and Grenadian heritage, fatherhood, and faith shaped the project — and the person he’s becoming.

    We talk about the pressures of performance, navigating a solo career, and the ongoing work of aligning your art with your values. Kevin also shares lessons learned on about presence, parenting, and purpose.

    If you’ve ever felt like a misfit — this episode is for you.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Newly independent artist vaultboy joins us for a raw, honest conversation about going viral during the height of COVID, navigating mental health, and the emotional complexities of fame. 🎵🧠

    We dive into the pressures of fan feedback, how therapy and exercise keep him grounded, and why songwriting remains his most therapeutic outlet. If you’ve ever struggled with self-judgment or online validation, this episode is for you.

    TW: suicide - this episode has a brief mention of suicide. Please dial 988 or text 741-741 for support.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Singer, songwriter, and producer Ella Vos joins More or Less to share the personal struggles that have shaped her music—from postpartum depression and cancer to divorce and the pressures of motherhood.

    We dive into her breakout hit “White Noise,” the making of her new album Rosebuds, and how reconnecting with vulnerability became her superpower. Ella also talks about launching Super Glue Records to support emerging artists and build more sustainable paths in music.

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    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Chloe Moriondo joins us to talk about her latest album Oyster, the evolution of her sound, and how discovering her creative voice has been a powerful journey of self-discovery.In this interview, we chat nautical-themed fashion (yes, Chloe’s thrifted looks are just as intentional as her lyrics), our shared love for Paramore, and why supporting mental health in music matters now more than ever.

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    Support us with a $5 donation via⁠⁠⁠ Buy Me A Coffee. ⁠⁠⁠Follow us on social media by clicking ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Rate & subscribe to our show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    🔗 Chloe Moriondo Links:

    Stay connected with Chloe ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠⁠⁠Stream Oyster here.

    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • Singer-songwriter Lyn Lapid joins us for a vulnerable convo ahead of her debut album & spring tour.

    We talk about the highs and lows of touring, moving to a brand new city, and navigating friendships in LA. Lyn opens up about the weird world of social media, her evolving relationship with creativity, and how she’s learning to prioritize both her mental and physical well-being along the way.

    This one’s honest, reflective, and full of insight for anyone trying to find balance in this fast-paced world. Catch Lyn on tour this May and June, and stream Buzzkill out on April 25th.

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    🔗 Lyn Lapid Links:

    Stay connected with Lyn ⁠⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠⁠

    Credits:

    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt

    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • The wonderfully witty and talented corook joins us to talk about life on (and off) the road, their debut album Committed to a Bit, and what it’s really like being an artist in today’s digital world.

    We dive into how they balance public and private life, the importance of saying “no” for mental health, and building meaningful connections with fans—both online and in person. Plus: Pokémon obsessions, Reddit rabbit holes, and the pressures of social media.

    Packed with humor, heart, this honest conversation is all about boundaries, burnout, and finding joy.

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    Support us with a $5 donation via⁠ Buy Me A Coffee. ⁠Follow us on social media by clicking ⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠⁠Rate & subscribe to our show on ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠YouTube.⁠⁠⁠

    🔗 corook Links:

    Stream Committed to a Bit ⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠⁠Stay connected with corook ⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠

    Credits:🎙

    Hosted by Jessica McDevittProduced by Remy Hernandez
  • We’re back with a new episode! The incredibly talented Livingston joins us to talk about his journey—from growing up in Texas to crafting his unique sound as a self-taught producer and artist.

    Livingston opens up about his songwriting process, the emotional impact of performing live, and the importance of genuine fan connections.

    Livingston also opens up about staying grounded and what’s next for him on The Story Continues Tour this spring!
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    Support us with a $5 donation via Buy Me A Coffee. Follow us on social media by clicking ⁠⁠here.⁠⁠Rate & subscribe to our show on ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠YouTube.⁠⁠

    🔗 Livingston Links:

    Stream A Hometown Odyssey (Deluxe) ⁠⁠here.⁠⁠Follow Livingston on social media ⁠⁠here.⁠

    Credits:
    🎙 Hosted by Jessica McDevitt
    🎛 Produced by Remy Hernandez

  • New York-based musician Sarah Kinsley stops by the podcast to reflect on grief, spirituality, and finding freedom within music. As she embarks on her headline tour, Sarah opens up about the emotional connection of live performances and the powerful energy exchange with her audience.

    We dive into Sarah's roots as a classical musician and the journey leading up to this pivotal moment: releasing her debut album! Whether you're a long-time fan or new to Sarah’s music, this episode offers a beautiful glimpse into her artistry, creativity, and what it means to be human, more or less.

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    🔗 Sarah Kinsley Links:

    Stream Escaper ⁠here.⁠ Follow Sarah Kinsley on social media ⁠here.⁠

    Credits:• Hosted by Jessica McDevitt• Produced by Remy Hernandez• Photography by Olivia Stabile• Marketing by Heather Saxe

  • As the creative force and bandleader behind Sammy Rae & the Friends, Sammy Rae joins Jess for a candid chat about touring, authenticity, and the pressures of today's digital age, from constant content creation to taking a stance on social issues. Don’t miss the chance to experience the Friends' debut album Something for Everybody live as they embark on a seven-week North American tour — it’s sure to be a real good time!

    Thanks for tuning in.....more to come!

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    🔗 Sammy Rae Links:

    Stream Something for Everybody here. Follow Sammy Rae on social media here.

    Credits:• Hosted by Jessica McDevitt• Produced by Remy Hernandez• Photography by Olivia Stabile• Marketing by Heather Saxe

  • In this season finale, superstar Olivia O'Brien sits down with us as a newly independent artist after years in the major label circuit.

    Taking control of her narrative, Olivia discusses recent challenges around personal vs. professional life in the realm of social media. In this intimate interview, OIivia candidly reflects on her own insecurities and the inner journey to healing & self-acceptance. This raw & honest conversation brings Season 5 to a close.

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    Interview Credits:• Hosted by Jessica McDevitt• Produced by Remy Hernandez• Editorial by Danielle McDuffie

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