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  • Imagine discovering that the key to understanding people's true intentions lies in their facial features. Now, picture being able to decode these nonverbal cues and gain deep insight into their personalities and behaviors. What if this skill not only transformed your personal relationships but also gave you a strategic advantage in sales and negotiations? Uncover the secrets of face reading with Brian Gaulke, a master in decoding facial features. On this episode of The Kathryn For Real podcast we delve into the unexpected power of nonverbal communication and unlock the hidden truths behind every smile, frown, and raised eyebrow.

    My special guest is Brian Gaulke.

    Brian is a people problem solver and expert in decoding facial features. He shares his journey of learning nonverbal communication techniques. From his early career experiences to his fascination with personal development books, Brian's unconventional path to mastering face reading provides valuable insights into the impact of body language on interpersonal dynamics. Brian says that anyone can acquire these skills, debunking the myth that it's an innate talent.

    Because Brian is using visual images to explain some of the techniques, I thought this would be a great time to start uploading my podcast videos to my Youtube channel. You can watch Brian's episode now!

    About Brian

    Introducing Brian Galke, also known as “The People Problem Solver,” a dynamic speaker and expert in improving communication skills.

    Brian’s journey began as an Introverted/Extroverted professional grappling with social anxiety. Recognizing the critical importance of effective communication in achieving success, he embarked on a deliberate path of self-improvement.

    Drawing from diverse experiences in retail, the service industry, and Helpdesk roles, Brian strategically positioned himself in environments where he could hone his interpersonal skills. With each role, he diligently cultivated subtle techniques to engage with others more effectively.

    The turning point in Brian’s journey came when learned how to Decode Facial Features. This newfound ability to revolutionized his interactions, both personally and professionally.

    This commitment to personal growth paid off handsomely, propelling Brian through nine promotions—from his humble beginnings as an introverted Helpdesk employee to his illustrious tenure as Regional Vice President of Sales with a staggering $40M book of business under his belt.

    Eager to share his transformative insights with the world, Brian transitioned from the corporate arena to become an esteemed speaker and educator. He graces stages alongside luminaries such as Janine Driver, Brad Lea, Steve Sims, Greg Reid, and Alex Hormozi, empowering audiences with the invaluable skill set that transformed his own life.

  • Have you heard these myths about personal growth and forgiveness?

    Myth #1: Forgiveness is a sign of weakness.
    Myth #2: Forgiveness means forgetting the past.
    Myth #3: Forgiving means letting the other person off the hook.

    But the truth about forgiveness is powerful and transformative. Want to know the truth? Then you won't want to miss this episode.

    My special guest is Amy Lacey!

    Meet Amy Lacey, the visionary behind Cali'flour Foods and a remarkable example of turning adversity into triumph. Amy's battle with health challenges, including lupus and Sjogren's, inspired her to create the first cauliflower pizza crust, defying industry norms and transforming the health food landscape. She went on to create Soursop Nutrition. A supplement line featuring the "superfood with super powers, Soursop." Her journey embodies the profound impact of forgiveness and personal growth, showcasing the resilience that comes from embracing forgiveness. Amy's story not only reflects her unwavering determination but also offers invaluable insights into the transformative power of forgiveness. Her experiences and wisdom are sure to resonate deeply with those seeking emotional freedom and personal growth.

    In this episode of Kathryn for Real, Amy shares her journey as it serves as a beacon of hope, reminding us of the incredible strength that emerges from forgiveness and resilience.


    Go to Soursopnutrition.com and enter KATHRYNFORREAL20 for 20% off


    About Amy:

    Amy Lacey is a serial entrepreneur, innovator, best-selling author, keynote speaker and business mentor.

    In 2016, after being diagnosed with Lupus, Amy launched Cali’flour Foods and introduced the first cauliflower pizza crust to the market when only a head of cauliflower could be found in grocery stores. The brand took the food industry by storm, going from farmers markets to grocery stores across America, and spearheading what would become a billion dollar industry category.

    Cali’flour was the number 1 pizza crust sold on Amazon for 16 months straight from 2018-2019. The product won several awards including KeHE Best New Product in 2018 and was featured in Food and Beverage Magazine, OK! Magazine, GQ, Good Housekeeping, as well as one of “Whoopi’s Favorite Things” on The View. The products were also seen at the ESPY, Teen Choice, the Emmys, NY Food Show, as well as many other traditional food shows.

    Amy sold the majority of Cali’Flour in late 2019 and became one of the top 1% of women business owners to exit a company with an 8 figure deal.

    Amy is now trailblazing the path towards a brand new innovative health and wellness

    product with her new company, Beyond Medicine, founded in 2023. This new company is on a mission to highlight one of the world’s greatest superfoods that most people don’t even know exists yet.

    She is introducing a new category of superfood to the market and paving the way for a new era of self-care and wellbeing that prioritizes the body’s natural ability to be and stay healthy while enhancing the immune system’s armor against disease and illness.

    Up next alongside Beyond Medicine, Amy continues to collect her vast knowledge and experience in entrepreneurship into courses and programmes that make e-commerce easy for entrepreneurs.

    Her philanthropic mission includes supporting women founders, and she continues to be incredibly passionate about being involved in non-profit organizations that support children with cancer and fighting against the sex trade.

    When she’s not innovating the next industry shaking product, you’ll find Amy at her home in Melbourne, Florida with her husband, her 3 children and their new puppy.

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  • My special guest is Lavinia Errico!

    Lavinia Errico, the co-founder of Equinox, is a prominent figure in the fitness industry, renowned for her groundbreaking contributions to being one of the founders of Equinox to now starting a “movement” called MOVEJOY! Growing up in a bustling household with five siblings, Lavinia's early exposure to movement laid the foundation for her unwavering dedication to holistic health.

    In this episode of Kathryn for Real, she shares invaluable insights into the transformative power of prioritizing movement for improved health.


    Go to https://movejoy.life/membership and enter KATHRYN4REAL for 20% off for whichever option you feel is right for you!

    About Lavinia:

    Lavinia Errico is a renowned entrepreneur, health and wellness expert, and inspirational leader. As co-founder of Equinox, she built one of the most successful fitness brands in the world, revolutionising the industry and changing the gym experience.

    Now, she's at the helm of MOVEJOY, a cutting-edge company that is redefining wellbeing and transforming the way we think about exercise. MOVEJOY supports you to live a more fulfilling life by connecting with your body and mind in a deeper, more holistic way. It's not about achieving the perfect body or six-pack abs. It's about finding joy in movement. The practice combines ancient wisdom with modern science, blending mindfulness and movement to help people connect with their true selves. Whether you have five minutes or 30, MOVEJOY can help you tap into your life force and experience a sense of freedom, vitality, and joy everyday.

    Check out MOVEJOY: movejoy.life

  • So much of the time, we focus on the outside. The career, the kids, the house. But we don’t put that same focus on ourselves. Maybe you say you’ll start meal prepping this weekend or you’ll start doing that yoga class. Only to find that “more important” things come up.

    You need to make self care Non Negotiable.
    Success starts with you.

    In this episode Angie Wisdom and I talk about just that.

    About Angie:

    Angie Wisdom is an acclaimed thought leader, coach, and author dedicated to empowering individuals on their journey of personal growth. As an ICF Master Certified Coach and co-owner of a Global Alternative Investment Firm, Angie brings a unique perspective to her transformative teachings. Drawing upon her expertise and client experiences, she offers profound insights and actionable strategies to help people unlock their true potential.

    Throughout her successful career in coaching and consulting, Angie has guided countless individuals and businesses toward financial empowerment and professional success. Her extensive experience in the corporate world has equipped her with a deep understanding of the challenges business owners and executives face in their pursuit of fulfillment and financial well-being.

    Connect with Angie at https://angiewisdom.com/

  • Jon and Kathryn Gordon interview Candace Cameron Bure on her new moving Unsung Hero. Based on a remarkable true story, a mom’s faith stands against all odds and inspires her husband and children to hold on to theirs.

  • Where are all the groups and communities for females that want to build wealth!? That’s the exact question Andreea Muresan and Kara Ayala were asking themselves when they stepped into an event with only 2 women …

    So what did they do? They created a community of their own, called Reign & Co. They now spend their time teaching women how to build and create true wealth in their lives.

    During this episode, we talk about how Reign & Co. got started, why they’re so passionate about helping women build and create true wealth in their lives, and how you can start to do the same.

    This episode is packed with helpful tips on how to build wealth in your life!

  • Are you going to become a victim of your circumstance or a victor???

    Today’s guests chose to take their circumstances and the hand they were dealt and turn it into the lives of their dreams!

    The Tenison Twins are my guests this week on the podcast, and whether you know it or not, I’m sure you’ve seen them before. From being on the covers of calendars to Playboy Playmates, and even becoming the famous Doublemint Twins, they are no strangers to grinding a path to success.

    They’re on today to share their story, what they had to overcome to get where they are today, and what new and exciting things they’re planning for the future!

  • At what point in your life would you be willing to radically change your life and start something new? For most people, the answer wouldn’t be in their 50’s …

    But that’s exactly what Tresa Todd did. She left her comfortable job in the medical field (after a little nudge from her sons) after 25 years to pursue real estate wholesaling.

    Years later, she has built one of the largest learning and networking communities for women real estate investors in the nation called “WREIN” (Women’s Real Estate Investors Network).

    Listen as we talk about her amazing story, how she was able to create such massive success, and how you too can get into real estate wholesaling if you’re looking for something new!

  • If you’ve ever struggled with your health but you were unsure why, then this podcast is one you’re going to want to listen to!

    This week I sit down with my good friend Jennifer Brower to talk about her new book, “Silent Killers,” and her struggle to get answers in her own health journey.

    For years Jennifer struggled with her health while doctors and other health professionals struggled to find the answers, she was able to figure out that it was in fact these silent killers that were the main culprits.

    Today, we talk about what these silent killers are, how you can protect yourself against them, and how they impact every single one of our lives.

  • Do you find yourself constantly worrying about what other people think? Do you find that this affects your work, your life, and your overall happiness? If so, then let me tell you something: you’re not alone!

    This week on the Kathryn For Real podcast Jon and I are sitting down with our good friend Dr. Mike Gervais. You may have heard of the terms “YOLO” and “FOMO,” but the one you need to be the most familiar with is what Mike terms “FOPO,” and that’s the fear of other people’s opinions.

    Through the past decade, Mike has worked with some of the best in their industries such as top 100 CEO’s, artists, musicians, Olympians, and even some of the most famous athletes you watch on tv.

    Mike’s mission is to teach individuals how to overcome this fear of other people’s opinions by teaching them the psychological, sociological, and biological factors that come into play and how to redirect our attention from others outside of us and instead focus on the self.

    Dr. Mike’s newest book, “The First Rule Of Mastery: Stop Worrying About What People Think,” is a best seller that will teach you how to cast aside the opinions of others and start living the life of a high performer.

    Enjoy this episode and let us know what you think!

  • Every parent’s worst nightmare is something happening to their child, and that’s exactly what happened to Granger and his wife Amber in 2019 when their 4-year-old son River, drowned in a pool accident.

    We talk with Granger about the despair he experienced through this traumatic ordeal but also, the redemption and purpose he experienced through his walk with the Lord. This led him to leave his successful career as a country music star and pursue what is his true calling, which is to share God’s word with others.

    His best-selling book, “Like a River,” chronicles not only his journey through grief, but also about him truly finding his faith, hope, and ultimately, finding peace after his world was turned upside down.

    His message today is one of renewed hope and the ability life-changing sadness has to bring about life’s true purpose through its healing process.

  • Making friends is hard!

    Keeping friendships is even harder and definitely does not get any easier the older you get!

    Just like any relationship, it takes a lot of time, communication and commitment.

    Luckily, Kathryn has the secret solution to help build and keep long lasting, meaningful relationships. Their names are Amy Weatherly and Jessica Johnston and they are the founders of the "Sister, I Am with You" community and co-authors of the book "Here for It: The Good, the Bad, and the Queso."

    Their genuine and down-to-earth approach to the complexities of connection and vulnerability resonates deeply with anyone navigating the challenges of making meaningful relationships in adulthood. Through their relatable stories and practical insights, Amy and Jessica bring a refreshing perspective, offering invaluable guidance for those seeking to cultivate authentic and lasting connections. With their unique blend of humor, honesty, and wisdom, they inspire and empower others to embrace the beauty and complexities of friendship, making a profound impact on the lives of many.

    Don't forget to share this episode with a friend and leave a comment if you learned something new!

  • Kathryn was raised Catholic, but she only attended church on Easter Sunday. Her Dad was raised in the Catholic church, went to Catholic school and was an altar boy. She doesn’t know the reasoning, but when he was raising them, religion wasn’t important, and he seemed even be turned off by it. One reason may be because Kathryn's grandmother (his mom) would go to mass in the morning and be drunk by 2:00pm.

    As a child, If she would sleep over at a friend’s house on a Saturday night, she would go to church with them on Sunday. Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist and she remembers a place called "Rock Church" where they danced and spoke in tongues! Nothing stuck. In her early 20's, she was wild. Partying all the time and after one extremely crazy night, decided she no longer wanted to live life that way. So, Kathryn hit her knees and prayed to God for help.

    Now, she may not have been raised in church. But she can tell you as sure as she typed this, God has been with her as far back as she can remember. She would talk to him all the time. He would answer. It wasn't audible, but she could always hear him. She can remember at 5 years old, as her Mom and Dad were in a drunken screaming fight, Ishe was crouched in a little bathroom of our military housing home. She got on her knees, and cried out to God. "Please, please take me back. You’ve made a big mistake. You’ve put me in the wrong family." Well, he didn’t take her back. But things would get better for a while, before getting worse again.

    A few years later, she met Jon. He was Jewish. They bonded over their spiritual beliefs. She got married in a Japanese garden with a non-denominational pastor and she smashed the glass (Jewish tradition). They had children, and she did get them baptized. She knew this was important somehow but didn’t really know why. They moved to Florida and her Jewish husband became a follower of Jesus (that’s a whole other fascinating story of how that happened). But, as he started learning about the teachings of Jesus, he would share with them. They started going to a local church. Then started having family meetings. The foundation was laid.

    Enter "THE CHOSEN".

    The miniseries produced by Derral Eves and Dallas Jenkins. For the first time in Kathryn's whole life, it all makes sense! Pieces of the puzzle are fitting. The stories, the disciples, the places. It’s like all the sudden, she sees in technicolor!!! When I found out she was interviewing Derral Eves, the Executive Producer of "The Chosen", she was so excited. He did not disappoint. Kathryn doesn't know where you are in your spiritual walk, but she knows this interview will have something in it for you. No matter what your faith or background. Oh and P.S... This episode kicks off Jon and Kathryn doing podcasts interviews together. They will still have guests they interview separately, but anytime they think when they have a guest or message both their audiences will enjoy, they will do a collab!

  • For Kathryn's 100th episode of Kathryn For Real, she recorded her family having a family meeting. This idea came about as she is often asked for great tips on raising kids and ways to keep a family together in a world that always seems to be pulling us apart. Without a doubt, the best thing she ever did to develop a strong family was her weekly family meeting.

    Each Sunday, they would meet as a family and Jon would read a devotional, an article or share an inspirational video. Next, they would discuss their family mission statement and how they were living it. Remind each other of their “One Word” for the year and talk about how that was going. Then, each family member would share a challenge they were dealing with, while the other family members would offer solutions.

    They learned things that the kids were dealing with that they would have never known without having these meetings. They helped them create a bond that still lasts to this day.

    Some might say “We eat dinner together as a family. Isn’t that good enough?” … Of course, it’s great to eat together, but Kathryn found with a busy family whose kids play sports or have a lot of activities, it’s not always easy to eat together. Scheduling a weekly family meeting and making it a priority ensures you will connect more with each other.

    Now, let’s face it, busyness and stress can cause a family to run in circles to the point you don’t invest in what matters most … your relationships.

    If you miss a week, you must keep at it. Keep scheduling it. Keep fighting for it. Family meetings help you create a strong and calm foundation in the midst of chaos.

    From The Gordon Family to yours, we hope this is your best year yet!

  • Join Kathryn on this weeks podcast as she dives into a conversation on body image, true health and well-being with the mastermind behind the Lindywell app, the woman who's been turning fitness norms upside down for a whole decade. Robin Long. She isn't just a Pilates instructor; she's the Sherlock Holmes of holistic health, here to decode the mystery of true well-being.


    In this episode, Robin spills the beans on her latest book, Well to the Core. Buckle up, fitness enthusiasts, because Robin's serving us ten core components to achieve well-being and get us moving towards a whole lifestyle revolution! Robin's not about to feed you the same old fitness fairy tales. She's all about ditching the rules, embracing self-kindness, and sprinkling a little grace on top. Forget the rigid regimes; it's time to find joy in movement, nourish that mind and body, and cultivate a love affair with yourself. Trust us; you'll be on your feet, ready to conquer the world (or at least that morning jog) by the end.


    So, grab your water bottle, stretch those limbs, and get ready for a dose of inspiration and empowerment. From relatable anecdotes to practical strategies, this episode is a masterclass in achieving overall well-being.

  • Kathryn grew up around water. Be it the beach or intracoastal waterway, she was always boogie-boarding, body surfing, waterskiing or just “laying out” with baby oil. 
As an adult, she plays tennis in the Florida sun. Her skin has taken a beating. She has sunspots to prove it. Kathryn decided to go to a Med-Spa and do a laser on her arms to remove the sunspots. She had done it once before and had seen a noticeable difference. The spots were lighter, so a few months later she went in for one more round. She thought that would do the trick. Well, as the technician was firing the laser, it didn’t seem right, and Kathryn kept seeing a spark and a sound she had never heard before. She kept questioning the technician, but she said it was "okay". This is one of those times when Kathryn knew better but I didn’t stop the treatment.

    A week later, the skin on Kathryn's arms was crinkly, dried up and flat, the sunspots were still there. She kept hoping her skin would recover, but weeks turned into months, months turned into YEARS. 5 years to be exact!! Since then, she has tried every cream you can think of over these last 5 years, and nothing has helped. 

So, a few months ago, she saw a friend of hers online talking about this new product "ONE SKIN" that reverses the age of your skin. That it improved the texture of eye skin by 133 percent! Kathryn thought maybe ... just maybe, this was different. Kathryn called her friend and asked him to give me the real scoop. He said “you must try it yourself … it’s amazing". He then had One Skin send her some products to try. Kathryn told the rep if it could improve the skin on my arms then she was sold as I’ve tried every product under the sun (pun intended), and nothing has helped.


    In all honesty, Kathryn is always being sent products to promote in my newsletter and on my podcast but most never make it to her social media because she won’t talk about anything that she can’t personally vouch for. Well ... Kathryn is SO HAPPY to report that she has seen a remarkable difference in her eye skin, face and ... the real test for her, there is a huge difference in the skin on her arms. It looks younger and the texture has improved significantly. It doesn’t look crepey and old anymore. One Skin is the ONLY product that has been able to do this!!!

    Listen to this episode as Kathryn talks to the founder of One Skin, Dr. Carolina Oliveira. She explains how OS-01 was discovered and is asked questions about this peptide that we all want to know.

  • Whether you’re a woman or a man that loves a woman this episode is for you.

    It happens once a month! An extra 5lbs in bloating, horrific cramps, sugar cravings and the worst moods ever! We will break down why this happens and how we have the power to improve a lot of these symptoms. We also talk about infertility. An issue that has become way too common.
    Yup! That's right! We're going to talk about periods! And Kathryn's guest this week, Nicole Jardim, is a menstrual master! 



    Nicole Jardim is a menstrual health and fertility expert who is passionate about empowering women to take control of their reproductive health. As someone who personally experienced the challenges of heavy and painful periods as a teenager, Nicole understands the impact that menstrual health can have on a woman's daily life. Her own journey to finding relief and understanding led her to become a certified health coach and women's health advocate.

Through her virtual coaching practice, Nicole has been able to support women all over the world in navigating their menstrual cycles and achieving hormonal balance. With her down-to-earth and relatable approach, Nicole is dedicated to breaking the stigma surrounding periods and providing women with the knowledge and tools they need to optimize their menstrual health and fertility.



    Get ready to dive into an enlightening conversation with Nicole on today's episode of Kathryn For Real.

  • Oh my gosh. This is going to be a treat for you guys!

    Kathryn has Jenny Hutt on the show!

 Jenny Hutt is a prominent radio host and podcast personality, known for her long-standing career in the broadcasting industry. With a tenure of over 17 years, Jenny has established herself as a respected figure in media.


    She first gained recognition through her co-hosting role on the radio show "Whatever with Alexis and Jenny", alongside Alexis Stewart, daughter of Martha Stewart. This successful venture led to her securing her own show on SiriusXM, “Just Jenny”. 
After departing from SiriusXM, Jenny transitioned to hosting her own podcast aptly named “Just Jenny”, where she continues to engage and entertain listeners with her authentic style and frank conversations. Jenny is known for her honesty around her weight loss of 70 pounds and how she’s kept it off for the last 10 years.

    She and her sister Stacy created “Bunny Eyez”. Flippable, tiltable, and adjustable high quality reading glasses. Kathryn has several pairs and she loves them!! 


    On this podcast, she covers everything from her long standing broadcasting career, relationships, to her beloved famous father, Charles Koppelman. Jenny is quite witty and refreshingly down to earth. I hope you enjoy the conversation.

  • Are you ready to uncover the unsettling truth about EMF exposure and take control of your own well-being?

    Kathryn's guest, August Brice, dives deep into her personal experiences and groundbreaking research, you'll discover a shocking link between man-made wireless EMFs and potential health risks. As August unravels the chilling truth behind EMF exposure, brace yourself for an unexpected twist that will leave you questioning the safety of your own environment.

    But the story doesn't end there ...

    On this episode of Kathryn For Real, you'll discover not only the potential health issues associated with EMF exposure but learn ways to mitigate risks and products to protect you and family in your home and while traveling.


    Get ready for an eye-opening episode.