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  • TH and Jessica met when Jessica started dating TH’s best friend from high school. They became fast friends. Not only that, their husbands were friends and while traveling, raising kids, and doing life together appeared to be perfect, something was not right in either of their relationships… And while the truth set them free, it was not an easy thing to navigate. Listen in as they share their story and how they are making it through all these things!

    ABOUT exEXPERTS

    Above all else, exEXPERTS and the Divorce, etc… podcast provide honest, reliable, no-nonsense professional resources to help guide you through your divorce. T.H. & Jessica support, educate, and empower people to make the best choices when faced with this paramount occurrence. It’s trustworthy, simple to navigate, easy to understand, and written especially for you by us, the exEXPERTS!

    We are two best friends who got divorced at the exact same time…and although we had completely different experiences, we were lucky enough to have each other through it all.

    Rising from the lack of resources, support and information during our separate journeys, along with the desire to help others maneuver through the process, we created the exEXPERTS online community and Divorce etc… podcast. We are your reality check! We are an honest, encouraging and positive space for everyone in any stage of divorce. You don’t know what you don’t know, but the exEXPERTS do!

    Get your Free Divorce Rulebook Here!

    https://www.exexperts.com/newsletter

    Website: https://www.exexperts.com,

    @exexperts on IG/FB/TikTok and Divorce, etc.. with exEXPERTS on Youtube

    Tired of navigating betrayal on your own? Join the Betrayed Badass Community today! https://theboldlogic.com/bbs

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  • Cameron met her forever partner when she was 40 and couldn’t wait to start their life together. But then, on their honeymoon, her partner started getting texts from the other woman, and she realized that maybe this wasn’t what she signed up for… It left her asking herself, where is the handbook for stepparents and co-parents?! And since there wasn’t one, she created the closest thing you could hope to find.

    Cameron Normand is CEO of Stepfamily Solutions and host of The Stepmom Diaries podcast.

    Through her coaching, courses, magazine, and summit, she has helped thousands of stepmoms and stepfamilies navigate their blended family lives. Cameron is a Certified Stepparent Coach, and her work has appeared in The Cut, Business Insider, CNET, and the Today Parenting Team, among others. Previously, Cameron spent 23 years working in politics, first on Capitol Hill, then leading policy strategy in various leadership roles at two of the world’s top movie studios. She serves on several non-profit boards and was named one of the Washington Business Journal’s “Women Who Mean Business.” Cameron received her BA from the University of South Carolina and her JD from Emory University School of Law.

    In her spare time, she loves to travel with her husband and try to rein in her energetic puppy, Ernest Hemingwoof.

    Want to feel less alone in your journey as a stepmom today?! Sign up for the FREE Stepmom Summit happening April 25, 2024 https://jessica0821--stepfamilysolutions.thrivecart.com/2024-ultimate-access-pass-fast-action/61128c9ab5f26/

    As if the stepmom summit wasn’t enough, here is another free gift from Cameron: 10 Daily Habits of Healthy Stepfamilies: www.stepfamilysolutions.com/daily-habits

    Connect with Cameron:

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    TikTok.com/@stepfamilysolutions

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  • Karen and Catherine both personally experienced the anxiety that comes from finances during divorce and decided to do something about it. Taking Catherine’s financial background and Karen’s law background, they developed Divorce Solutions, and they are here to help you feel empowered as you navigate the financial ins and outs of divorce.

    Co-founding a fintech company that would revolutionize the divorce sector was not what either of us set out in life intending to do, but our experience, skills and life events turned out to leave us perfectly placed to set up this business together.

    Catherine was a financial planner who went through a painful divorce and vowed to help women understand their marital estate so they did not get taken advantage of at such a vulnerable time in their lives. As part of this bigger purpose, she took on further training to become a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst.

    She quickly realized that the problems with the divorce industry were much bigger than just financial awareness. In fact, she started to understand that there were systemic issues throughout the entire divorce process.

    Catherine had the expertise to tackle the financial element of the problem, but she needed someone who had experience with the legal process of divorce who would share her perspective and join her mission. Fortunately, around this time, a colleague introduced her to Karen, knowing that Karen also had a passion for helping empower women through her nonprofit. Catherine also learned that Karen had extensive professional experience as a paralegal and law firm business manager – and, like Catherine, she’d been through a divorce herself, and her experiences had convinced her that the system needed reform. With aligned incentives and joint commitment, Divorce U Solutions and My Divorce Solution was born in January 2016.

    Join Catherine, Karen, and Jess at the Power of Me Conference! https://goodthingsaregonnacome.com/power-of-me-2023/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mydivorcesolution?igsh=MXhjM2hjcGIyYWQ0aw%3D%3D&utm_source=qr

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mydivorcesolution

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    Website: https://mydivorcesolution.com/

    Join our Community! https://community.mydivorcesolution.com/landing?space_id=6831212

    Want to feel less alone in your journey as a stepmom today?! Sign up for the FREE Stepmom Summit happening in just a couple of weeks! https://jessica0821--stepfamilysolutions.thrivecart.com/2024-ultimate-access-pass-fast-action/61128c9ab5f26/

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  • On their first date, Ginger’s now husband told her he wanted to marry her and have 10 kids together… Since that didn’t make her turn and run, it isn’t surprising that their relationship has beaten the second marriage odds and come out on the other side. Listen in as Ginger shares her family's story and the amazing work that has come out of it.

    Ginger Dellaripa is a loving wife to her husband and a dedicated mother of five children. She is also a co-founder of The Family Core Organizational Platform, with a mission focused on helping families manage and organize day-to-day responsibilities with a generational mindset.

    Driven by her faith, Ginger aims to positively impact the kingdom through serving families globally. She strives to spread the message of faith, love, and the value of family to those around her. She is deeply committed to her family and her faith, striving to create a harmonious balance between the two in her life and everyone she encounters.

    Pick up Ginger’s FREE Co-Parenting App today and start taking the stress out of navigating all things blended families. www.thefamilycore.com

    Connect with Ginger on Instagram @thefamilycore (https://www.instagram.com/thefamilycore)

    Shoot The Family Core as email at: [email protected]

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  • Mixed orientation marriage, conversion therapy, loss, and coming out on the other side of it all. This couple shares how their individual stories brought them together and how they are now helping others going through similar things. You will want to give these men a big old hug after you listen to their story.

    Be sure to get your ticket for their coming up event for LGBTQ individuals. Please share with loved ones who might need this resource as well. www.liveoutproud.org

    Find them on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/live_out_proud/ or Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083383176774

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  • Linda and Christopher were best friends before they became romantically involved. She had always been told that your best friend is who you should be with, so why not take things to the next level?! But after dating, marriage, and a couple of kids, there was still something missing. She used the rhetoric of being a tired mom, being touched out, etc, to explain it away why she didn’t want to be intimate with her husband until one day she found something on TikTok that changed her in ways she never expected…

    You can find Linda on Social Media under the name Fruitsofmotherhood, helping moms laugh, cry, and feel seen as they navigate the ups and downs of motherhood.

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fruitsofmotherhood/?hl=en

    Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fruitsofmotherhood

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fruitsofmotherhood

    Website: https://fruitsofmotherhood.com/

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  • In 2017 Elena Joy was in a heteronormative relationship, a member of the Mormon church, and a stay-at-home mom to four kids. Her husband was the scoutmaster and on his way to being bishop when, one evening, a friend made a comment that made her rethink everything she had been taught and everything she knew about herself. Join us as Elena Joy shares how she went from her darkest days to filling this world with more hope, joy, and love.

    Featured in the award-winning documentary CONVERSION, Elena Joy Thurston is an inspirational Diversity & Allyship speaker, trainer, and author through a lens of LGBTQ+ inclusion. Elena Joy inspires her audiences to learn how Inclusive Leadership can improve company culture and productivity, changing members' lives in a practical way. A Mormon mom of four who lost her marriage, her church, and her community when she came out as a lesbian, her viral TEDx talk on surviving conversion therapy has been viewed more than 45,000 times and landed her media and speaking opportunities with ABC, CBS, Penn State, Peloton, INBOUND, and more.

    http://www.elenajoyexperience.com, https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenajoythurston/, http://www.outofqueeriosity.com, https://youtu.be/rIhPZMC4UEg, https://www.instagram.com/elenajoyspeaks/

    Link to Elena Joy’s Ted Talk on Conversion therapy. https://www.ted.com/talks/elena_joy_thurston_conversion_therapy_almost_took_my_life_mindfulness_saved_it

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  • Dillion tried to be as diligent as he could so that the gay would go away. He knew from a young age that he was gay but wasn’t sure what it was. But after doing all the things… It was time to come out. Even knowing his truth, the fear of coming out to his wife was real, and the questions raced through his mind… Will she leave? Will she blast me on social media? What horrible things are people saying about me?

    Here is Dillion’s story.

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  • Marty and Brandi have been married for 12 years (15 years together), but what happens when his wife confronts him about whether he is still attracted to her? Doesn’t she remember that he “was gay” before they got married? His response was honest and changed the rest of their lives.

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  • You have probably heard me allude to it, but today, I am tackling it head-on. I have heard from women over and over again, "Jessica, I am feeling all the same things you are describing, but I didn't have a partner come out." Why is that? Is that weird? I am here to answer all your questions about why you are feeling all the same things. Let’s dive into how your experience may feel similar, even though it is different.

    It is time for intentional healing AND to figure out what you want when you “grow up” after betrayal… Which is really like a Glow Up! Come learn how to connect back to YOU at the FREE “What Now?!” Workshop on February 21, 2024. Claim your spot now! https://theboldlogic.com/whatnowworkshop

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  • After 28 years of marriage and trying all the things to make their marriage work, Britt and her Ex decided it was time to part ways. Britt has done a LOT of intentional healing and wants to share the beauty that has come out of this experience. She will be joining The BOLD Logic Coaching team in March to support you on a very sensitive part of your healing journey.

    It is time for intentional healing AND to figure out what you want when you “grow up” after betrayal… Which is really like a Glow Up! Come learn how to connect back to YOU at the FREE “What Now?!” Workshop on February 21, 2024. Claim your spot now! https://theboldlogic.com/whatnowworkshop

    Get your FREE call with Jessica today, and let's get you feeling like YOU again! https://theboldlogic.com/call

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  • With religious pressures dominating their mindsets, Jenica and her co-parent did the right thing and “followed the path,” hoping it would bring the peace and joy they were looking for… but what happens when it doesn’t?

    Jenica met her co-parent in high school and was turned off by what she determined was his “need for attention.” But after a couple of years, he came back around, and the “cool kid” started to get more interesting. Eventually, he was there every day, filling her days.

    Ready to leave perfect partner syndrome behind by connecting back to YOU?! Join us for the FREE “What Now?!” Workshop on February 21, 2024. You can get on the waitlist now and be the first to claim your spot. You will not want to miss this FREE Workshop that only happens once this spring! (https://theboldlogic.com/whatnowworkshop)

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  • When Bri started to notice her clothing and shoes were stretched out, she thought her mom must be sneaking into her closet. When she went to confront her mom, the unexpected happened.

    Bri did all the things right. And then she went even harder to guarantee she was doing enough to have the perfect life she had been promised. She figured if putting “one dollar of effort” into the vending machine would get her the perfect husband, family, and life, then putting $100 would leave nothing to chance. She didn’t want there to be any “skeletons in the closet.” But then God laughed because he had His own plans for her. Just like you can’t pray the gay away, you can’t “buy” the perfect life.

    Is it your time for healing? It is time to release the emotional heaviness and claim what is ahead for you. I have got you boo. Get on the waitlist for the FREE workshop happening in February (https://theboldlogic.com/whatnowwaitlist)

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  • Meike had just lost her first husband when she met Fletcher. He came into her life at just the right time to start making her laugh again. Fast forward 14 years into their relationship when no one was laughing… Fletcher was angry, and she couldn’t figure out what was going on. It all came to a head on a vacation in England when Meike told him she was done dealing with his anger and asked him to leave.

    Was this the beginning of the end or just the beginning?

    How do you feel when you wake up in the morning? Are you ready to wake up with a smile? Join us for the FREE “What Now?!” Workshop happening in February 2024. You can get on the waitlist now and be the first to claim your spot. You will not want to miss this FREE Workshop that only happens twice a year. You can be smiling again sooner than you think. (https://theboldlogic.com/whatnowwaitlist)

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  • When Kaylyn’s husband disclosed to her that he was gay, she felt hurt and betrayed and that she didn’t deserve this. Then this thought came to her, and it shifted how she was showing up to the relationship… Listen in to find out what thought helped her to show up in a way that felt more in alignment with who she is.

    While Kaylyn and her husband hoped to stay together, it became exhausting to carry the load of not being true to who they both were. She had the realization that in order to have the life she wanted, she had to give up the life she had envisioned.

    Ready to learn to trust again? Trust yourself and others? Searching for a support system but haven’t found one that gets it? I have got you boo. Get on the waitlist for the FREE workshop happening in February (https://theboldlogic.com/whatnowwaitlist), AND get on the Waitlist for the September Retreat (https://theboldlogic.com/retreatwaitlist). Early bird pricing is ONLY available January 28th - Feb. 4th!

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  • Brandi and Marty have been married for 12 years (15 years together), but what happens when Brandi confronts Marty about being attracted to her? His response triggers a truth she had pushed from her mind for many years. With his honest response came the realization that their relationship would never be the same. Listen in as they navigate through all the things. And remember - your story is your own. It gets to look and feel a way that is right for YOU with no apologies.

    Retreat Waitlist! https://theboldlogic.com/retreatwaitlist

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  • Join Jessica as she spills the tea! Here's what is coming to the podcast over the next four months. Plus a host of things you do NOT want to miss out on.

    What Now After Betrayal Workshop Waitlist! https://theboldlogic.com/whatnowwaitlist

    RETREAT!!! There is only ONE spot left, and doors are closing SOON! Does it have your name on it? Email [email protected] to claim it!

    Get your FREE call with Jessica today, and let's get you feeling like YOU again! https://theboldlogic.com/call

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  • Have you ever failed? Are you in a season right now where you are failing? Then you do not want to miss this week's episode, where I am joined by AnaLee Hjelm and Sharon Costanzo, two amazing coaches who failed hard right alongside me. We want you to know you are not alone in your season of failing. Let’s fail forward together.

    Get your SLC and BOISE Boldly You Experience Tickets today! Limited spots are available, and early bird pricing ends Dec 31, 2023. Utah BOLDly You! (theboldlogic.com/utahbye) Boise BOLDly You! (theboldlogic.com/boisebye)

    RETREAT!!! There is only ONE spot left, and doors are closing SOON! Does it have your name on it? theboldlogic.com/januaryretreat

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  • I am done trying to be a better version of myself. I am done trying to be my best self. I want to simply be myself. Damn, that sounds magical. What if we tried a new approach to this new year? Do you want to join me as I focus on how I want to feel instead of what I want to do? This episode is about how I want to feel in 2024. I would love to hear how YOU want to FEEL.

    Get your SLC and BOISE Boldly You Experience Tickets today! Limited spots are available, and early bird pricing ends Dec 31, 2023. Utah BOLDly You! (theboldlogic.com/utahbye) Boise BOLDly You! (theboldlogic.com/boisebye)

    RETREAT!!! There is only ONE spot left, and doors are closing SOON! Does it have your name on it? theboldlogic.com/januaryretreat

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  • Hear us screw up parenting (specifically co-parenting) in real-time... But for reals, we let the child do the communicating, we let a text influence a decision before talking about it, and we really screwed the pooch on this one.

    Let this be your reminder that mistakes will be made. It is important to show grace for yourself and others when those mistakes are made. It will all be okay because, as Marie Forleo says, "Everything is Figure Outable."

    Get your SLC and BOISE Boldly You Experience Tickets today! Limited spots are available, and early bird pricing ends Dec 31, 2023. Utah BOLDly You! (theboldlogic.com/utahbye) Boise BOLDly You! (theboldlogic.com/boisebye)

    RETREAT!!! There are only two spots left, and doors are closing SOON! Does one of those spots have your name on it? theboldlogic.com/januaryretreat

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