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In this episode, we revisit the dark case of Kathleen Bedsole's murder in 1983, and the attempted murder of Charles Leonard, Jr., a crime that shook the communities surrounding Birmingham, Alabama to their core. We delve into the disturbed mind of David Duren, the man accused of the brutal killing, and unravel the events that led to one of the most infamous true crime stories in the region.
What We Cover: An in-depth look at the night of the murder - what happened, how it was discovered, and the immediate aftermath that sent shockwaves through the community.
Profile of the Perpetrator(s): A detailed background on David Duren exploring his history, potential motives, and the factors that may have contributed to his actions. Also, we get into the effect that this crime had on him and the aftermath of his actions.
Trial and Justice: An examination of the courtroom drama, the legal strategies employed, and the verdict that closed the case.
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Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Excerpts of David Duren's writings: Read by Tim Gwyn
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:
http://www.goodfight.com/letters/AnAttitudeAdjustment.html
https://murderpedia.org/male.D/d1/duren-david-ray.htm
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1151496322/?match=1&terms=Bedsole%2C%20Kathleen
https://www.newspapers.com/image/794763897/?match=1&terms=Bedsole%2C%20Kathleen
https://www.newspapers.com/image/794456346/
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s5tnqmcX9Eal-howxfkSdrMbXh5tVQYa4CVD95ih_5w/edit?tab=t.0
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On Valentine’s Day 1971, a young couple Jesse McBane and Patricia Mann vanished after a romantic night in Durham, North Carolina. Days later, their bound and strangled bodies were discovered deep in the woods. Their deaths were no accident—this was a meticulously staged murder. Over 50 years later, the case remains unsolved. Who was behind this horrific crime, and why have investigators struggled to bring justice to Jesse and Patricia? Join us as we unravel the chilling details of the murders and explore the theories that still haunt the couples friends, family and communities.
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✔️ The timeline of Jesse & Patricia’s final hours
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In this episode of Hard Times and True Crimes, we dive into a chilling case that highlights the dark side of online interactions. In the early 2000s, an internet chatroom became the setting for a deadly deception - what started as a seemingly harmless online friendship between marine_sniper and talhotblond, turned into a love triangle that ended in murder. We'll explore how a web of lies, manipulation, and hidden identities led to a fatal encounter.
Join us as we break down the timeline of events, discuss the key players, and examine how the anonymity of the internet played a dangerous role in this real-life tragedy. Could this crime have been prevented? And what does it reveal about the risks of online relationships?
In This Episode, We Cover:
The rise of online chatrooms in the early 2000sThe key individuals involved in this shocking caseHow online deception escalated into real-world violenceThe investigation and trial that followedThe impact of this case on Internet safetyTune in for a gripping true crime story that reminds us: not everyone online is who they claim to be.
Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:
https://youtu.be/UO0vwNu-ZTw?si=hksZ4k27n8DKJAHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI-JATDDUd8
https://www.newspapers.com/image/877751944/?match=1&terms=thomas%20montgomery
https://www.newspapers.com/image/877368196/?match=1&terms=brian%20barrett
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In this episode, we delve into the lesser-known case of Ida Ball Warren, a woman from Winston-Salem, North Carolina, whose story shocked the state in 1914. It all began with the discovery of a body in Muddy Creek—a chilling find that, months later, would unravel a dark web of secrets and lead investigators straight to the man's own house.
The events leading up to Garrett Warren’s murder.How the discovery in Muddy Creek led investigators to Ida.Public reaction to Ida Ball Warren.Insight into early 20th-century societal attitudes toward women in crime.
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On New Year's Day 1951, a respected member of the Mt. Airy community was targeted in a car bombing. He was a teacher, a new husband, the son of a police chief, and an upstanding citizen. It took two years for the bomber to be apprehended when they targeted another victim.
Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:
Pickens, Cathy. True Crime Stories of Western North Carolina. Arcadia Publishing, 2022.
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-high-point-enterprise-mt-airy-bombi/24079081/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-daily-times-news-mt-airy-bombing-ca/11451814/
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In 1913 Nancy Ann Kerley's name became infamous in the Appalachian mountains of North Carolina. Her story remains a chilling legend in the region's history. Listen to this episode to find out why.
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newspapers.com
findagrave.com
https://www.facebook.com/LadyFromTheMountains13/posts/the-legend-of-nance-dude-stoned-by-children-considered-a-witch-by-some-and-a-com/295072048854981/https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Conard-284https://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/johnson/chapter24.html
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/life/2024/08/28/cataloochee-valley-settlers-descendants-return-to-the-smokies/74950606007/
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Days before Christmas in 1831, Charlie Silver went missing from his home, leaving behind a young wife and baby. In the mountains of Western North Carolina, his family searched to no avail. Unfortunately, Charlie was eventually found but not all in one piece.
Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Narrator of The Ballad Of Frankie Silver excerpt - Lily Hildreth
Sources:
You Tube Documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ6DViANMIc
McCrumb, Sharyn. The Ballad of Frankie Silver. The Penguin Group 1998
https://exhibits.lib.unc.edu/exhibits/show/capital-punishment/biographies/silver
https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/silver-frankie
https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/silver-frankie.htm
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+was+appalachian+life+like+in+the+1800s&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1055US1057&oq=what+was+appalachian+life+like+in+the+1800s&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORigAdIBCTExMDcxajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:7ec1b597,vid:liDtcY_NbWI,st:0
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On Christmas Eve in 1881, the bodies of three teenagers were found in a burning house. The brutal way in which they were killed would shock the country. Listen to the conclusion of the story on this episode.
Music By Riley Hildreth
Sources:
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~kycarter/journals/neal_craft_murder.htm
The Story of the First Hanging in Carter County by Glen R. Haney
findagrave.com
newspapers.com
The Ashland Tragedy: Murder, a Mob and a Militia in Kentucky by H E Joe Castle and J. M. Huff
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On Christmas Eve in 1881, the bodies of three teenagers were found in a burning house in Ashland, Kentucky. The brutal way that they died would shock not only the community, but the entire nation.
Music by Isaiah and Riley Hildreth
Sources:
findagrave.com
wikipedia.com
The Ashland Tragedy: MURDER, A MOB & A MILITIA IN KENTUCKY by Joe Castle and JM Huff
Fresh Hell Podcast
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The residents of Cumming, Georgia were in an uproar in 1972 after two sheriff deputies were murdered. Just months later, in the same vicinity, a middle-aged couple was murdered in their bed and the community was on edge. Were the killings connected? Could it be retaliation or was it something else altogether? Was anyone else in danger?
Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62SuK3_9mR4
https://www.newspapers.com/image/398617568/?match=1&terms=hollis%20morgan
https://www.newspapers.com/image/398240286/?match=1&terms=michael%20morgan
https://www.newspapers.com/image/971797866/?match=1&terms=michael%20morgan (picture of Michael Morgan)
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On Thanksgiving Eve in 1930 , a dairy farming family of four were brutally murdered. Their deaths shocked the nation. Ninety-five years later, the murders are still unsolved. Listen to the episode to see if you think you know who the killer is.
Male Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:
findagrave.com
newspapers.com
modernfarmer.com
The Germond Family Murders: A Scientific Conclusion to a Cold Case by Vincent Cookingham PHD
Old Timey Crimey Podcast
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On Thanksgiving Night, in 2009, Paul Merhige joined his family for their annual get-together. He had not been invited but decided to attend anyway. He called his father to get directions to his cousin's home and his father complied. What happened after he arrived that evening was a nightmare that tore the family apart.
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https://www.macabredaily.com/articles/template-6fy98
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In 1991, seventeen year old Crystal Faye Todd didn't come after a night out with friends. Her mother instinctively knew something was wrong. Listen to the story of the disappearance, rape and brutal murder of an all-American girl from Conway, South Carolina.
Music by Isaiah Hildreth
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newspapers.com
findagrave.com
Forensic Files
Southern Fried True Crime
Carolina CrimesSupport the show
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With the discovery of radium by the Curies in 1898, great strides were made in the scientific field. Along with the possibilities were risks not yet known. One of the inventions - luminous paint- made painting watch dials big business in the early 1900s. But within two decades the dangers were coming to light.
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Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sound Effect Music: Radium Dance - Composer: Schwartz, Jean , Victor Dance Orchestra. Public Domain: Recorded Sound Section, Library of Congress
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/12732/9-ways-people-used-radium-we-understood-risks
https://allthatsinteresting.com/radium-girls
https://environmentalhistory.org/people/radiumgirls/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/brooklyn-eagle-dr-s-von-sochocky-death/3474048/
https://womenslibrary.org.uk/2017/11/28/radium-girls-the-dark-story-of-americas-shining-women-by-kate-moore/
https://cdn.sourcebooks.com/assets/marketingmaterials/RadiumGirls_EXCERPT.PDF
https://www.newspapers.com/image/144179268/?match=1&terms=grace%20fryer
https://www.newspapers.com/image/917879198/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/447229085/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/brooklyn-eagle-dr-s-von-sochocky-death/3474048/
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In 1973 a movie opened in theaters that scared the nation - The Exorcist. But you may not be aware that it was based on true events that took place in 1949. Billy Graham urged audiences not to see it due to its depiction of evil, but audiences continued to flock to see it for its scare factor. These are the details of what happened and the truth is scarier than fiction.
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Sources:
O'Reilly, B., & Dugard, M. (2023). Killing the Witches: The Horror of Salem, Massachusetts. St. Martin's Publishing Group.
https://www.newspapers.com/image/868176622/?match=1&terms=exorcism
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https://www.newspapers.com/image/1040054397/?match=1&terms=exorcism
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The trials began in 1692 when a group of young girls in the Puritan village of Salem, Massachusetts claimed they were being tormented by local women who were practicing witchcraft.
Male Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Music by Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:Killing Witches by Bill O’Riley
O'Reilly, B., & Dugard, M. (2023). Killing the Witches: The Horror of Salem, Massachusettshttps://salemwitchmuseum.com/my-account/history-education/
https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=2&psid=3578
https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/puritans.htm
https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/c/the-crucible/critical-essays/historical-period-puritans-in-salem
https://www.history.com/news/salem-witch-trials-first-accused-woman-slave
https://salem.lib.virginia.edu/n95.html
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=the+puritans&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Puritanism
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/way-more-than-the-scarlet-letter-puritan-punishments/
https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ma-samuelparris/
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/SALEM.HTM
https://salem.lib.virginia.edu/n38.html
https://historyofmassachusetts.org/reverend-george-burroughs-salem/
https://www.themonastery.org/blog/seven-strange-and-barbaric-witch-tests-used-in-the-salem-witch-trials?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD9lAltiDnTytAw3jj5g9ZLYRO3bc&gclid=CjwKCAjwvKi4BhABEiwAH2gcw_g8-36rbr8gI1NWQv3DaTj-urRQ3qusZo3nTTAIII2k-mu6Kdk8VhoCrsYQAvD_BwE
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Water’s Edge Church- Salem Witch Trials
The Gospel Coalition Teaching Salem Witch Trials
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A rocky marriage, a controlling husband, an estranged wife, and alcohol addiction; a destructive combination that led down a deadly path and ultimately ended in tragedy for several families.
Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-4948199
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage_nursing_home_shooting
https://www.newspapers.com/image/960980039/?match=1&terms=Wanda%20Neal
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In August 1931, police were investigating the disappearances of Asta Eicher and her three children. They found love letters, which led them to a man named Harry Powers in Quiet Dell, West Virginia.
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Music by Isaiah Hildreth
Male Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Sources:
newspapers.com
findagrave.com
wikipedia.com
murderpedia.com
https://www.wvencyclopedia.org/print/Article/1911
https://news.lib.wvu.edu/2014/10/28/the-harry-powers-murders-crimes-that-inspired-west-virginia-authors/
morbidtourism.com
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To retire early and live their days sailing on a yacht is the dream of many a couple. Some actually get to live that dream. Such was the case for Tom and Jackie Hawks until the day another dream came true - a grandbaby was on the way. When the couple decided to sell their yacht and move closer to family, they thought they had found the perfect family to enjoy the Well-Deserved. But something sinister was in the works that Tom and Jackie did not see coming.
Narrator: Curtis Hildreth
Intro and Outro Music: Isaiah Hildreth
Sources:
20/20 Episode: https://abc.com/episode/540e7569-4074-40ba-85de-d4aaedacfcc2
48 Hours Episode: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-mystery-dark-voyage-12-06-2010/
https://casetext.com/case/people-v-henderson-2126
newspapers.com
Hymn - For Those In Peril On The Sea by William Whiting
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Marie Dean Arrington was a professional criminal in Florida during the 1960's. After she committed a brutal murder, Marie became the second woman to be put on the FBI's Most Wanted List.
Male Narrator- Curtis Hildreth
Music by Isaiah Hildreth
Sources
Find a Grave findagrave.com
Wikipedia wikipedia.com
Murderpedia
Southern Mysteries Podcast
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