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  • Change happens during the course of our lives. Regardless of the form in which change appears along our road, there’s a certain time of upheaval followed (we hope) by a growing sense of comforting familiarity.

    Change is afoot in the world of the Ministering to Ministers Foundation! A new home, a renewed commitment, a renewing sense of a purpose in the world, all of this begins to unfold for Ministering to Ministers in the halls of the Center for Lifelong Learning in Columbia Theological Seminary.

    And there is some change unfolding for Kathrin Gabriel-Jones, too! A new podcast, which is introduced in this episode.

    Thank you for being a Friend for the Journey!

    Some links to share:
    To learn more about the Center for Lifelong Learning at Columbia Theological Seminary, please click here.

    The Here’s Hoping: Conversations with Kathrin podcast is available on most podcast platforms. Be sure to subscribe to learn what’s happening next!

    Kathrin Gabriel-Jones is proud to continue developing and hosting this Friends for the Journey podcast. To contact Kathrin, you are welcome to send her a note here.

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • If we’re lucky, we discover some friendly people along the path, some friends for our journey. Having those friends can provide a sense of calm to our waters, and we can experience the still deep waters of our lives settling into something familiar, something we begin to trust.

    Yet, even with our luck of having friends, we all experience upheaval in our lives, when those still, deep waters of our lives are broken by unexpected change, leaving us in the choppy waves of that wake left by change.

    Some links to share:

    Kathrin Gabriel-Jones is proud to continue developing and hosting this Friends for the Journey podcast. To contact Kathrin, you are welcome to send her a note here.

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • 2020 surprised the world, taking everyone completely off guard. The entire world became plunged into the wake of unexpected transition and upheaval.

    As 2021 dawned across the world, the upheaval of the pandemic continues. Yet the world, our world that still swims upstream against the upheaval of the pandemic and the unknown, remains united in confusion and the unknown.

    Throughout each of the conversations with Friends for the Journey, we’ve explored a lot of different aspects of how, after the unexpected transition, we can continue moving through our lives and into our future.

    So, the Friends for the Journey will begin weaving these threads of wisdom together over the next months, crafting a network of friends to hold us as we move into this new future together.

    Today, we take threads from Dr. Rev. Skip Irby, Dr. Roberta Damon, and Pastor AbbyLynn Haskell. Happy Weaving, friend.

    Some links to share:

    Kathrin Gabriel-Jones has been proud to develop and host this Friends for the Journey podcast. To contact Kathrin, you are welcome to send her a note here.

    Links to the full episodes can be found below:
    Pastor Skip Irby: Grief, Fatigue, and Pandemic
    Roberta Damon: Warming Ourselves at the Hearth of Hope
    AbbyLynn Haskell: Hope Changes

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • When unexpected change overtakes us, it’s sometimes difficult to tell what’s up and what’s down. After all, when things are happening fast, it’s hard to keep track

    After the upheaval has ended, we’re left standing in the debris, still wondering how to go on.

    But you can. Even if you need to take a beat and take a breath before you take another step. Kathrin shares a gift of wisdom she received from a trusted mentor, which helped her take a beat and take a breath before taking another step.

    What is some wisdom you’ve received along your journey?

    Some links to share:
    Covid-19: Resilient Educator Toolkit is dedicated to the support of teachers and educators, students, parents, and families. (last accessed 01/21/2021)

    “Too Many Pastors Are Falling on Their Own Swords”, by Jakob Topper explores the line pastors walk between caring for congregations and sacrificing themselves for congregations (last accessed 1/21/2021)

    HelpGuide, a nonprofit mental health and wellness website, shares the following article that includes five tips for dealing with anxiety during the Covid-19 pandemic as well as anytime anxiety and uncertainty occur in upheaval: Dealing with Uncertainty During the Coronavirus Pandemic. (last accessed 1-21-2021)

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • Promises made, promises kept: the foundations for friendship and heartfelt conversations. As promised, Roberta Damon and Kathrin sit down for a meandering dialogue through the forests of thought, feelings, and belief. Stories are shared, discoveries are made, and they encounter gratitude, generosity, and hope….oh my!

    Some links to share:
    Here’s a link to the movie, Pay It Forward

    Roberta’s Four Thoughts about Gratitude (and Generosity & Hope, but mainly Gratitude):
    1. Gratitude can help us not be defined by the injustices in our lives. Don’t let the injustices define us and who we are.
    2. By being Grateful, we become more Generous…. Likewise, by being more Generous, we become more Grateful.
    3. What kind of Person do You want to be?
    Look around you,
    Observe how others treat people, and
    Decide the Person you wish to be in the world.
    4. Gratitude (and Generosity and Hope) can make you more compassionate and selfless.
    Roberta’s quote about people…The nicest people in the world are in church.
    Aaaaaand…..The meanest people in the world are in church.

    Kathrin used the phrase, Lord, protect me from your followers. Did you know there’s a movie called, Lord, Save Us From Your Followers? Well, there are bumper stickers that say Lord, save me from your followers. Here’s an article titled, “Please Lord, Save Me From Your Followers” written by Lorelei Nettles, which asks a great question.

    Kathrin found it challenging to find a biography about Alice L. Humphrey, author, so if you have any information about Alice L Humphrey, please let Kathrin know! Here is the list of books Roberta mentioned:
    Angels in Pinafores
    Heaven in My Hand
    The Lady in Red (a story in the book, Heaven in My Hand)
    And both Angels in Pinafores & Heaven in My Hand are available at Amazon!

    Edgar Allen Poe
    The Cask of Amontillado (acknowledgment to AmericanEnglish.Englich.Gov)
    Edgar Allan Poe House in Richmond

    Happy Birthday to Pastor Peter James Flamming, Pastor Emeritus of First Baptist Church!
    Pastor Jim Sommerville

    Love Lives On is an online resource center dedicated to educating families in end-of-life issues, including Writing Your Own Epitaph
    Roberta’s epitaph: “Y’know, She Left It Better Than She Found It.”
    &n

  • You’ve probably heard the phrase, Mind the Gap, at some point in your life. It’s most often associated with the London Underground trains to warn passengers about the space between the station platform and the train entrance. It’s a warning to ensure people don’t slip and fall into the space between the place where they were and the place where they are going to be.

    The events of the past year have been rolling around in my mind not because last year’s upheaval has ended, but because we’re in a middle place, in between where we – as a world - had been and where we – as a world - might end up.

    Some links to share:

    This YouTube video shows the space between the train & platform. It’s worth watching to see how big some of those gaps can be!

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • A professional aromatherapist, certified lifecoach, and professional weaver for over 50 years with five floor looms in active use, Nancy Lubin understands the nuanced connection between the many threads in the human experience.

    With insight and humor as her companions, Nancy explores a tapestry of conversation about the meaning inherent to the language we use, the imagery formed from our words, and the connections developed and nourished within those moments we share.

    Some links to share:

    Nancy Lubin can be found on her website.

    About Nancy

    Nancy’s Designs

    Essential Oils & Aromatherapy

    Definitions of Resilience on Free Dictionary

    Here are a few videos about floor looms:

    Weaving on a Floor Loom, found on Life of a Homemaker.

    Michelle Driver’s video about the floor loom she uses for Threefold Designs.

    And finally,

    Kelly Casanova’s video shows a different perspective of the weaving process.

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • In the first days of a new year, each of us is faced with a familiar yet unusual quandary: the future that we’ve dreamed into has suddenly become the present. It may not be what we expected it to be, it may even feel strange, even different from what we thought it might be.

    And yet, the future is now the present.

    Ultimately, it’s the most human of all experiences, when the future becomes the present, and discovering what feels unfamiliar, what is now new, and what we each need to rediscover.

    Some links to share:

    New Years Quotes in a New Year:
    65 New Year's Quotes to Inspire (from Good Housekeeping, accessed 1/4/21)
    10 Ways to have a Spiritually Refreshing New Year's (HuffPost, accessed 1/4/21)

    Quotes About the Present:
    GoodReads

    Have a thought about those moments when your future has suddenly become your present? Let me know!

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • Kathrin sits down with Dr. Beverley Buston, missionary, psychologist, nurse, helper, and mountain woman. The conversation ranges across the landscape of thought and faith, yet Beverly keeps us grounded with pragmatism, care, and faith.

    Welcome, friend. It’s great to have you with us for the journey.

    Some links to share:

    The full biography and profile of Beverley Buston, PhD., 2013 recipient of the Campbell-Wallace Achievement for Distinguished Service Award, can be viewed on the Ministering to Ministers website here.

    Beverley speaks of the West Virginia mountains with much love and emotion. Looking at the mountains themselves explains why. You can explore the beautiful mountains throughout the West Virginia landscape here, on the West Virginia Explorer website.

    During our conversation, the phrase “moving from either/or to both/and: The Theology of Work explores this phrase in this lovely article, Moving from Either/Or to Both/And (last accessed on 1/2/21)

    Bagavad Gita and The Mabinogion can both be explored on GoodReads.

    Dr. Beverley mentioned the mission work she’s done through her church. You can see the various ministries and missions of the Episcopal Diocese of Southern Virginia on their website.

    NPR’s moving obituary of Congressman John Lewis details his remarkable life, achievements, and his continued encouragement for others to get into good trouble.

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • 2020 has been A Year.
    It’s as if a decade’s worth of events has all been crammed into 365 days.
    So, on this last day of 2020, as we stand on the cusp of a new year, here are some thoughts.

    Some links to share:
    Ministering to Ministers Foundation Prayer Ministry: Have a Prayer? Let us know. We will pray for you.

    And, of course, Ministering to Ministers: We Are Here for You

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:
    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • Once upon a time,
    When I found m’self lost
    In a tizzy & a flurry,
    I met this person, Laurie.

    Laurie Curtis is happy to wear a collection of hats in her work with her clients and in her life. In our conversation, we dive deep into the topics of hope and resilience, trauma, and the confluence of them all in the journey in our lives.

    Early in our conversation, I tell Laurie that I just wanted to “dive into the deep end.” With grace and insight, Laurie and Kathrin swim easily into the depths of heartfelt conversation, and rise back up to the surface together, ready to welcome you along the way.

    Some links to share:

    CurtisEase Coaching
    Laurie Curtis’ Traumatic Incident Reduction page
    Laurie Curtis’ Character Strengths page
    Life Stress Reduction Program

    Laurie’s equation for resilience: Resilience = Hope + Action
    Laurie’s acrostic of CHANGE
    C – Clarify
    H – Hope
    A – Action
    N – Navigate
    G – Growing
    E - Expand

    Barbara Frederickson
    Positive emotions

    Traumatic Incident Reduction Association of America
    Traumatic Incident Reduction Institute of Maine

    Family Systems Theory
    An Introduction to Genogram, the symbols of family systems theory

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • There are many different expressions of and words for prayer. And, I think, everyone has an idea of what prayer means in their own life.

    Regardless of what it means for you, I offer a prayer for anyone who’s listening. I offer it in love and hope for the space between us to be blessed with peace and health.

    Some links to share:
    Some Resources from LearnReligions.com about different perspectives on prayer:
    Judaism:
    Guide to Jewish Prayer and Worship
    The Kaddish Prayer
    Ecumenical:
    A Parent's Prayer for Teens
    Islam:
    The 5 Muslim Daily Prayer Times and What They Mean
    Islamic Prayer Beads: Subha
    The Adhan: The Islamic Call to Prayer
    Sikhism
    Mala Rosary Beads in Sikhism
    Hinduism
    Praying in Hinduism
    Christianity:
    5 Types of Prayer
    The Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi
    Pagan
    How to Make Pagan Prayer Beads
    The Role of Prayer in Paganism

    Ministering to Ministers Foundation Prayer Ministry: Have a Prayer? Let us know. We will pray for you.

    And, of course, Ministering to Ministers: We Are Here for You

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:
    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • As promised, Kathrin and Roberta sit down for another fantastic conversation, this time diving into the intersection of hope and cynicism, what forgiveness means, and why each person deserves the chance to make their own choice about forgiving someone who has caused harm.

    While both Roberta and Kathrin share stories during their conversation, each one humorous and poignant in turn, Roberta reflects on the story she’d shared as a clinical facilitator at Wellness Retreats provided by the Ministering to Ministers foundation.

    As the friendship between Roberta and Kathrin grows during this episode, they invite you to join them. Welcome, friend. It’s great to have you with us for the journey.

    Some links to share:
    Why Memorizing Stuff Can Be Good for You (Forbes, by Natalie Wexler, 2019)

    Memorizing Poetry:
    Why You Should Be Memorizing Poetry (Medium, by Benya Clark, 2018)
    Got Poetry (by Jim Holt, New York Times, 2009)

    The origins of cynicism: TedEx video: https://youtu.be/Utzym1I_BiY
    One perspective on cynicism from The School of Life
    (Here is the link to The School of Life YouTube channel.)

    Sources about the Jerzy Bielcki & Cyla Cybulska story:
    From Haaretz: Former Inmate Recalls Daring, Romantic Escape from Auschwitz
    From The New York Times: Jerzy Bielecki Dies at 90 Fell in Love in a Nazi Camp
    From Yadvashem, The Stories of Six Righteous Among the Nations
    From Keene State College, Cohen Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies

    Roberta’s Website: RobertaDamon.me
    Books authored by Roberta:
    A Voice Beyond Weeping
    Dear Mrs. Noah: Letters to Unnamed Women of the Bible
    Roberta’s Introduction to Dear Mrs. Noah on YouTube
    Dear Abishag: Letters to Little Known Women of the Bible
    Theirs Is the Kingdom
    Roberta M. Damon, PhD, recipient of the Ministering to Ministers’ Campbell-Wallace Award
    Interested in Contacting Roberta? Send her a note here.

    Also:
    Lewis B. Smedes’ book, Forgive & Forget, Healing the Hurts We Don’t Deserve

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  • Traditions are a part of the human experience. Some traditions are passed down from generation to generation. Others appear in our lives as a result of a deeply meaningful experience, either shared with others or in one’s own life. Ultimately, traditions provide a stable place by which we trace the passing of seasons and the course of our lives and relationships.

    And occasionally, something forces a fundamental change in the tradition on which we’ve come to rely because of an illness, death of a loved one, a move to a different country or city, maybe even a global pandemic. This change could impact one single traditional event, or it could completely upend our personal understanding of what this tradition has meant and could mean to us in the future.

    Sometimes we need to reinvent a tradition. Other times we need to reclaim it. In order for either of these things to happen, we need to be willing to ask “what does tradition mean to me?”

    Some links to share:

    S. Bear Bergman, an award-winning writer, storyteller, and educator, wrote Make Socially Distanced Holidays Fun and Special. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dpm9d/make-socially-distanced-holidays-fun-and-special

    The Importance of Keeping Up Holiday Traditions During Covid-19 published on EVOLVE Teen Treatment Center’s website (https://evolvetreatment.com/blog/holiday-traditions-covid/ )

    Adapting Holiday Traditions During Coronavirus accessed from PBS, https://www.pbs.org/parents/thrive/adapting-holiday-traditions-during-coronavirus

    Almost every healthcare agency, both private and public, has at least one article about navigating traditions in changing times. It might be worth it to see what’s being published in your area. Here is an article by the national healthcare coordinator, Solv: 16 COVID -Takes on Holiday Traditions https://www.solvhealth.com/blog/covid-takes-on-holiday-traditions

    And traditions can become even more meaningful sometimes. FeedingAmerica has these suggestions in their article, Start These 5 Covid-Friendly Holiday Traditions That Give Back https://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-blog/start-these-5-covid-friendly-holiday-traditions-give-back

    And, of course, Ministering to Ministers: We Are Here for You

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:
    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • Kathrin sits down with colleague and friend Gregory Reinauer, who introduces beautiful perspectives about music, conversation, and actively engaging hope in our lives. A bass musician trained at Berklee College of Music, Gregory shares how good ears support an understanding of the foundation that unites all the different strains of music within our lives. Together, Gregory and Kathrin explore new possibilities of creativity, music, faith, and – as Gregory says - that there’s something here that we have not yet seen that is here to emerge for all of us and to be interested in that. (A tip o’the hat to Gregory!)

    How do we face the challenges and trials of the world? Gregory stands at the edge of that question and does not flinch during a heart-warming, thought-provoking dialogue about the faith that we are part of a universe that we cannot fall out of.

    Join us for a conversation rich with laughter and inspiration. You are in the right place, friend. Welcome.

    *PostScript: I realized after our conversation that I’d mistakenly attributed “All shall be well, all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well” to Teresa of Avila rather than Julian of Norwich. There I go being human again!

    Some links to share:

    Gregory Reinauer Creative Action Coaching
    Crash Course for a Resilient Life
    Berklee College of Music in Boston
    The Casket of Dr Caligari
    Joanna Macy
    Teresa of Avila

    And Please note, Kathrin misquoted the phrase “All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.” This, along with many other fantastic quotes, is attributed to Julian of Norwich, not Teresa of Avila. (Heavens to mergetroid!)

    Original links to the Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers) source for Rabbi Tarfon’s quote, “It is not your duty to finish the work of perfecting the world), but neither are you at liberty to neglect it.”

    George Kao (link to the Friends for the Journey episode) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1363012/5525260

    Dag Hammarskjöld (Link in Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/946904.Dag_Hammarskj_ld) “For all that has been, thank you. For all that is to come, yes.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/35474-for-all-that-has-been-thank-you-for-all-that

    Gregory recommends the music of Melodeego. Thank you, Gregory!

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:
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  • How much silence do you notice in your day? In your mind? One of the most common complaints about the modern world is the lack of silence, and it’s easy to project a longing onto the past and think: oh, the past had space for silence, and there’s no silence in the modern world.

    But there’s one constant throughout all of history: people. And there’s nothing silent about people.

    In today’s reflection, Kathrin poses the question: how do you notice silence?

    Some links to share:

    The natural world provides much calming support. Of course, we’re not always able to get back to nature when we’d like to, so here’s a little bit of the natural world for you:

    Monterey Bay Aquarium: Moon Jelly LiveCam
    Monterey Bay Aquarium: Monterey Bay LiveCam
    Monterey Bay Aquarium: Live Ocean Sounds from Monterey Bay
    Vancouver Waterfront
    Driving through Washington State, USA
    An Afternoon & Evening in Chernihiv, Ukraine

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
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    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • Kathrin gets to share some wonderful conversation and laughter with her friend, Michael Chittum, who has walked alongside Ministering to Ministers in their service to others and been a Friend for the Journey to many over the past twenty-five years. Michael’s years as a pastor and leader have culminated in this work as the Executive Director of the National Association of Congregational Christian Churches, which is most often abbreviated to simply “N.A.”. During their dialogue, Michael shares how he’s been guided throughout his journey, what matters most to him, and how these inform his life.

    Welcome, Friend. It’s great to have you with us.

    Some links to share:
    John Killinger’s profile
    A listing of books by John Killinger.
    The novel Michael mentioned: Jessie

    The National Association of Congregational Christian Churches (NACCC)

    The origins of the Triquetra symbol are unclear, but it has remained a constant throughout the ages. If you’re not sure what a Triquetra looks like, here are two examples here.

    Henri Nouwen
    Books written by Henri Nouwen
    The Wounded Healer, available to review on Goodreads

    Parker Palmer
    Books by Parker Palmer

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:
    Ministering to Ministers
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    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • At the time of this recording, voting has just ended for the Presidential Election, a pandemic is currently sweeping across the planet, extreme weather events continue to cause record flooding, drought, and wildfires, and hundreds of species of animals of every size face extinction every day.

    There’s a lot happening in the world.

    And that’s just in the world. What about what’s happening in your own life?

    When an event – any event – alters our lives, we have to keep going on. And that’s hard.

    But sometimes when our lives become upended because of the actions and decisions of other people, as in a forced termination or a medical separation from your career, or the thoughtless words of another person, or the discrimination and prejudice because of how you look or who you love, that altering event becomes even more complicated and painful.

    And that’s worth looking at. Because you matter, that’s right, I’ll say it again, You Matter.

    You’re not alone. Below are resources to use and share:

    Veterans Crisis Line
    National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
    National Domestic Violence Hotline
    National Child Abuse Hotline
    The Trevor Project
    Trans Lifeline
    RAINN Sexual Assault Telephone Hotline
    Immigration Advocates Network
    American Addiction Centers Alcohol & Drug Hotlines
    Ministering to Ministers: We Are Here for You

    The natural world provides much calming support. Of course, we’re not always able to get back to nature when we’d like to, so here’s a little bit of the natural world for you:
    Monterey Bay Aquarium: Moon Jelly LiveCam

    Many thanks to Ministering to Ministers, who produce and support this podcast. Please check out the resources available through this fantastic foundation:

    Ministering to Ministers
    Ministering to Ministers Wellness Retreats
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Forced Termination
    Ministering to Ministers: The Problem
    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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  • Kathrin gets to sit down with Dr. DJ Kinney, a historian who looks into dangerous chapters in history without flinching, to talk about hope and cynicism in a changing world. DJ Kinney researches, produces and hosts The Cold War Vault podcast, which looks at this secretive period of history and peels back the curtain to reveal the humanity within.

    There’s a lot going on in the world right now. No matter when you read this, something is going on in the world. Maybe there’s something shaking up your life. Maybe your world has undergone a slow, tectonic shift over several years or a sudden, massive upheaval. Yet however change happens around us, we are left trying to find our way through the history we remember, the present we might not recognize, and a future we can hardly imagine. Yet we keep going on, hoping that we can look back on our lives to understand what has transpired.

    Here are some links to what we discussed in our conversation:

    About The Cold War Vault
    The three-part series of the Cold War Vault, The Otters of Amchitka:
    The Otters of Amchitka, Part 1, 2 & 3

    Clay Lamps through history at the Milwaukee Public Museum:
    Oil Lamp Classifications
    Image of Byzantine slipper lamp

    Pliny the Elder & Pompeii: “A Voyage into Catastrophe: Pompeii and the Roman Navy” by Will Mather, Western Australia Museum
    "The Destruction of Pompeii, 79 AD," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (1999)
    The “Great Man Theory” of History
    “Is There Still Value in ‘Great Man’ History?”, Four articles about the Great Man Theory of history in History Today

    “The Great Man Theory”, Villanova University

    History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes,” Fall 2018 Ohio Wesleyan University Feature by Richard North Patterson

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  • It’s that familiar feeling that never feels good: that realization of making a mistake, overlooking something important, missing a deadline, speaking when listening might be the better option…

    There we go, being human again.

    I first heard this phrase from a wise woman I met who, upon hearing me berate myself for an oversight, said There you go, being human again...did you think you were immune?

    That Oh no! feeling:

    during those last inches of empty space after missing the last step while going downstairs...as your hand knocks against something on the counter that begins to whirl and tilt... hearing the thoughts that had been rolling around inside your own head coming out of your mouth at the point when a conversation transforms into an argument…realizing what day it really is after a bad (or good) night’s sleep...losing time in the whirlwind of news stories, bad stories, epic tales, or a lovely conversation…

    That moment...it’s universal for all of us...there we go, being human.

    Some links to share:

    Call them what you will, everybody experiences them now and again: meltdowns. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-art-of-the-meltdown-11602015018

    From the Iona Community, this short, prayerful meditative prayer soothes and comforts: https://youtu.be/iMU1k845KuE

    The natural world provides much calming support. Of course, we’re not always able to get back to nature when we’d like to, so here’s a little bit of the natural world for you:

    Monterey Bay Aquarium: Moon Jelly LiveCam

    Monterey Bay Aquarium: Monterey Bay LiveCam

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    Ministering to Ministers

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    Ministering to Ministers Resources: Books

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