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In this milestone episode of Finding New Waters, host B. Reeves and CEO Justin McClendon sit down with a true legend in the addiction treatment space, Terry Shapiro. Celebrating an incredible 42 years of continuous sobriety on the exact day of this recording, Terry shares his riveting journey from a passionate left-handed college pitching prospect in Chicago to crashing and burning on a baseball road trip in Joplin, Missouri. After his actions shut the door on his dreams of being drafted, he found recovery, earned his master's degree in counseling, and unexpectedly found his way into the major leagues anyway—scouting international talent for the Atlanta Braves, Cincinnati Reds, and Chicago Cubs.
Terry details what it was like maintaining a 12-step program while scouting in Colombia during the turbulent Pablo Escobar era, and how he eventually merged his two passions to help pro athletes struggling with addiction. Now serving as the Director of Strategic Alliances for Banyan Treatment Centers, Terry discusses Banyan's massive expansion to 19+ programs across 9 states, their mission to accept state Medicaid and HMOs, and why a long-term structured continuum of care is vital for true neurological healing.
TIMESTAMPS
[01:00:03] Approx. The mental game of baseball and family dynamics
[01:01:06] Approx. Introducing industry legend Terry Shapiro in Boca Raton
[01:02:05] Approx. The philosophy of "Say Yes to Life"
[01:03:51] Approx. Left-handed pitching and altering the mind in college
[01:05:04] Approx. Truth Bomb: The Joplin motel room crash that ended his draft dreams
[01:06:50] Approx. From derailed prospect to Master’s degree in addiction studies
[01:07:09] Approx. International scouting for the Atlanta Braves in South America
[01:08:15] Approx. Scouting for the Chicago Cubs during Colombia's Pablo Escobar era
[01:09:43] Approx. Bringing 12-step recovery frameworks to Spanish-speaking countries
[01:12:40] Approx. Behind the scenes: Using baseball to connect with men in extended care
[01:13:57] Approx. Pre-game panels at the Marlins Stadium for Recovery Awareness Day
[01:16:02] Approx. The history and clinical purpose of anonymity in the fellowships
[01:19:01] Approx. Deep diversity and the World Baseball Classic (WBC) phenomenon
[01:21:03] Approx. How modern MLB teams utilize mental skills coaching departments
[01:22:37] Approx. Protecting young athletes from online financial scams
[01:23:42] Approx. Inside Banyan Treatment Centers: Expanding networks across 9 states
[01:24:37] Approx. Breaking barriers: Accepting HMOs and state Medicaid for accessible care
[01:26:07] Approx. Neurological healing: Why the brain needs a long continuum of care
[01:28:41] Approx. Corporate leadership: Helping high-level executives return to the workforce
[01:29:46] Approx. Archival history: A cherished autograph from Bill W.
[01:32:34] Approx. Commending Dr. Harold Hall and the New Waters Recovery team
LINKS & RESOURCES
* Banyan Treatment Centers: banyantreatmentcenters.com
* Connected Organizations: Comprehensive Wellness, Pure Life Counseling, Resilience Recovery Resources
CALL TO ACTION
If you're inspired by Terry's incredible 42-year journey of recovery, make sure to hit that subscribe button, leave a comment celebrating his milestone, and share this video with a sports fan who needs to hear this message. Let's keep reducing the stigma together!
HASHTAGS
#FindingNewWaters #TerryShapiro #BanyanTreatment #SobrietyAnniversary #42YearsSober #MLBScouting #AddictionRecovery #SoberAthlete #ContinuumOfCare
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"We have to turn deep personal desperation into long-term purpose."
In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, host B. Reeves and CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Glynis Franz, the inspiring Co-Founder of Peak Path Health and host of The Peak of Possibility podcast. Glynis opens up about her raw, deeply moving journey through teenage heroin addiction, juvenile detention, and serving time in federal prison.
After overcoming massive legal obstacles and personal trauma, Glynis completely transformed her life. Today, she channels her experiences into providing elite clinical support for high-functioning professionals and executives at her premier residential facility in the Hollywood Hills. In this conversation, Glynis dives deep into the specific challenges women face regarding trauma and shame in recovery, why authentic fellowship must come before standard institutional approaches, and how to build a community that helps individuals rediscover their true purpose.
TIMESTAMPS
[00:00] Episode Teaser & Intro
[03:15] Growing up fast: Teenage addiction and juvenile detention
[12:40] Hit rock bottom: Facing federal prison and legal battles
[22:10] The turning point: Finding clarity and a path to true recovery
[31:45] Overcoming the specific layers of trauma and shame faced by women
[42:15] Co-founding Peak Path Health: Bringing clinical excellence to the Hollywood Hills
[53:10] Treating high-functioning professionals, executives, and public figures
[01:05:30] Why grassroots fellowship beats a clinical-only institutional approach
[01:14:20] Turning past desperation into a powerful lifelong purpose
LINKS & RESOURCES
* Peak Path Health: peakpathhealth.com
* Glynis’s Podcast: The Peak of Possibility https://www.youtube.com/@UC3hd2l7YKPwLZIUCnonhbRA
CALL TO ACTION
If Glynis’s story of resilience inspired you, please hit that subscribe button, drop a comment below, and share this video with someone who needs to hear that it's never too late to rebuild.
KEYWORDS
glynis franz, b reeves, justin mcclendon, finding new waters, peak path health, the peak of possibility, hollywood hills rehab, executive burnout recovery, women in recovery, heroin addiction survival, federal prison to business owner, trauma and shame recovery, elite addiction treatment, high functioning alcoholic professional
HASHTAGS
#FindingNewWaters #GlynisFranz #PeakPathHealth #WomenInRecovery #AddictionRecovery #TraumaHealing #FromPrisonToPurpose #ExecutiveWellness #SoberLife
🎙️ Watch & Listen
Website: www.findingnewwaters.com
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw
YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
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What does it take to move from hitting rock bottom at a Big 10 university to saving lives as a certified clinical interventionist? In this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with licensed therapist and expert interventionist Andrew Rintels to explore the reality of addiction, the mechanics of a successful family intervention, and his own journey into long-term sobriety.
Andrew unpacks the clinical philosophy of the "Love First" model, the critical role of family boundaries, and how true recovery requires more than just cleaning up in a short-term medical detox. Whether you are navigating a loved one's substance abuse or seeking to understand the deep connection between mental health and trauma, this conversation offers actionable insights and clinical wisdom.
TIMESTAMPS
[01:03:29] Approx. Introduction of Andrew Rintels
[01:04:56] Approx. College Days and Red Solo Cup Memories
[01:06:13] Approx. Academic Rock Bottom and Leaving Iowa
[01:07:54] Approx. Fatherhood, Hitting a Wall, and the 28 Day Vacation
[01:10:05] Approx. The Turning Point: Witnessing a Roommate Pass Away
[01:11:36] Approx. Going Back to DePaul University at 34 Years Old
[01:12:39] Approx. The Service Commitment and Shifting to Clinical Therapy
[01:15:21] Approx. Why Medical Detox Alone Fails: The Maladaptive Solution
[01:16:59] Approx. Shifting into Love First Intervention Training
[01:19:51] Approx. How Love First Differs From the Reality TV Show
[01:23:52] Approx. Mental Health Interventions vs. Substance Abuse Models
[01:25:27] Approx. Redefining Success: Why Intervention Is a Process, Not an Event
[01:28:32] Approx. The Levy Metaphor for Sustained Family Recovery
[01:30:52] Approx. What True Leverage Looks Like (Financial, Emotional, Legal)
[01:33:42] Approx. Guilt vs. Shame: Debunking Inherently Bad People
[01:37:39] Approx. How to Find Andrew Rintels and AR Intervention
LINKS & RESOURCE
* AR Intervention Website: www.arintervention.com
* AR Intervention Email: [email protected]
* Jeff Jay and Deborah Jay Book: Love First
* Author Mentioned: Brene Brown
* Author Mentioned: Johann Hari
DONATION / SUPPORT
Not mentioned in transcript.
CALL TO ACTION
If you found value in this clinical look at addiction and recovery, please subscribe to Finding New Waters, leave a comment with your thoughts, and share this episode with a family who needs to hear it.
KEYWORDS
Andrew Rintels, B Reeves, Justin McClendon, Finding New Waters, AR Intervention, Love First intervention, clinical interventionist, family intervention training, medical detox limitations, addiction recovery, substance abuse therapy, LCSW, licensed therapist Chicago, mental health intervention, family system boundaries, guilt vs shame, Johann Hari connection, Brene Brown shame, trauma and addiction, intervention process, addiction leverage, how to stage an intervention, New Waters Recovery
#FindingNewWaters #AddictionRecovery #Intervention #LoveFirst #MentalHealthMatters #FamilyBoundaries #SobrietyJourney #TherapyTalk #LCSW #OvercomingAddiction
🎙️ Watch & Listen
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw
YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
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In this episode, host B. Reeves and CEO Justin McClendon sit down with John Griffin, the founder of Time for Sober Living in Raleigh. After decades of watching family members struggle with addiction and hitting a breaking point with constant enabling, John took matters into his own hands. He breaks down why traditional peer-led models often fail, the vital role of live-in house managers, and the strict boundaries required to keep a recovery house safe.
If you are a family member trying to navigate the recovery space, or someone looking for a true step-down environment after treatment, John’s raw perspective on accountability is a must-watch.
TIMESTAMPS
[00:00] Welcome to Finding New Waters with John Griffin from Time for Sober Living
[01:16] What does "sober living" actually mean? Structure vs. independence
[04:29] The reality of Oxford Houses and why modern sober living had to pivot
[06:34] Why the Live-In House Manager is the ultimate anchor for recovery
[08:46] What inspired John Griffin: Family addiction, tragedy, and stopping the enabling
[11:18] The brutal truth about treatment success rates and navigating the system
[13:05] Hard conversations: Telling residents to stop talking and start acting
[17:17] Removing the "cancer" from a house without causing a physical confrontation
[21:49] Keeping the ship running: Why 5 good guys beat 9 knuckleheads
[23:09] Being the best neighbor on the block and breaking the flophouse stereotype
[28:38] Mental safety and the reality of keeping the house secure
[30:04] Location details and capacity of the Raleigh houses
[31:10] Ownership and obligation: "There is no shame in recovery"
LINKS & RESOURCES
* Time for Sober Living (Raleigh, NC): https://www.timeforsoberliving.com
* Fellowship Hall (Greensboro, NC): https://www.fellowshiphall.com
* Sauna House (Charlotte, NC): https://www.saunahouse.com
* Oxford House: https://www.oxfordhouse.org
CALL TO ACTION
If this conversation helped shed some light on what real recovery looks like, please subscribe to Finding New Waters, hit the like button, and drop a comment below. Let’s work together to eliminate the stigma.
🎙️ Watch & Listen
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
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YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
#FindingNewWaters #SoberLiving #AddictionRecovery #RecoveryCommunity #TimeForSoberLiving #RaleighNC #StepDownTreatment #RecoveryBoundaries #EndTheStigma #SobrietySupport
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When a loved one is in an addiction crisis, the first thing most families do is search Google for help. In this hard-hitting clip from Finding New Waters, Josh Miller (Founder of Walk Again Restore) exposes the dark reality of online rehab marketing. He breaks down why the top search results rarely represent the best care, and how deep pockets beat clinical quality every single time.Don't let algorithms dictate a life-or-death decision. Learn how to look past the shiny websites and find specialized, honest programs that actually stay in their lane of integrity.NOTABLE QUOTES* "Stop looking at the internet. It's a bad place to find treatment."* "What's going to appear on Google has more to do with like the money that people have invested to rank in Google, not necessarily the best program."LINKS & RESOURCES* Primary Website: https://www.newwatersrecovery.com* Guest Link: Josh Miller - Founder of Walk Again Resources (website under construction) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-miller-4b346a32/* Walk Again Resources Website: http://www.walkagainresources.comDONATION / SUPPORTNot mentioned in transcript.CALL TO ACTIONThe internet shouldn't be the gatekeeper to recovery. Subscribe to Finding New Waters for more raw truths about navigating the treatment landscape. Drop a comment below if you've encountered these shady marketing tactics.KEYWORDSaddiction treatment traps, finding a rehab on google, rehab marketing secrets, walk again resources, josh miller, b reeves, finding new waters, ethical addiction recovery, deceptive drug rehabs, how to choose a treatment center, long term rehab quality, google maps rehab scamHASHTAGS#FindingNewWater #AddictionRecovery #RehabTruth #StopScrolling #MentalHealthMatters #WalkAgain #Sobriety🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B.Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Klay Weaver, CEO of LifeSkills. With nearly 40 years of experience in behavioral health, Klay shares insights on expanding access to care, bypassing organizational red tape during acute mental health crises, and the crucial differences between primary addiction and primary psychiatric treatment.
Klay also dives deep into a massive national trend mental health professionals are witnessing: a significant uptick in cannabis-induced psychosis among young adults. He breaks down how modern-day marijuana interacts with underlying psychiatric vulnerabilities, its intersection with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), and why clinical reality paints a very different picture than public perception.
TIMESTAMPS
[01:00:03] - The Importance of Direct Access to Care in Behavioral Health
[01:02:29] - LifeSkills Regional Footprint and Facilities in South Florida
[01:04:01] - The Story and Metaphor Behind "Finding New Waters"
[01:06:31] - From Teaching Philosophy to 40 Years in Group Homes and Care
[01:11:46] - The Evolution of LifeSkills and Purchasing Eric Clapton's Sanctuary Homes
[01:14:11] - Exposing the History of South Florida's Care Communities
[01:24:08] - Overcoming Clinical Stigma and Red Tape for Acute Patient Admissions
[01:28:52] - The Massive Uptick in Cannabis Induced Psychosis and Marijuana Misconceptions
[01:31:03] - Treating Marijuana Abuse and Psychiatric Conditions on the Autism Spectrum
[01:34:43] - The Chronic Sub-Acute, Residential, and Outpatient Models at LifeSkills
[01:41:49] - Post-COVID Expansion of Mental Health Services Nationwide
NOTABLE QUOTES
* "In our smaller private systems, interesting access to care is still a critical thing, but from a different angle, you get a very needing a lot of very fast moving work." - Klay Weaver
* "The young adults in today's world think just because something's legal, that it's okay. Well, it may be legal, but medically it is not your friend." - Klay Weaver
* "What we're seeing on the mental health side is an overabundance of individuals coming into our facilities with cannabis-induced psychosis." - Klay Weaver
* "It triggers an underlying psychiatric issue, and then the individual can't pull themselves out of it. They become psychotic, paranoid, hallucinatory, and delusional." - Klay Weaver
* "I like finding answers and not having discussions." - Klay Weaver
* "When you say you're doing behavior against vulnerable people, like, you know, that just makes you bristle all over. That is the wrong population." - Klay Weaver
LINKS & RESOURCES
*Lifeskills South Florida Official Website: http://www.lifeskillssouthflorida.com
DONATION / SUPPORT
Not mentioned in transcript.
CALL TO ACTION
If you or a loved one are searching for new paths to recovery, remember to subscribe to Finding New Waters. Leave a comment below with your thoughts on today's episode, and like this video to help spread these critical mental health insights to those who need them most.
#MentalHealth #BehavioralHealth #FindingNewWaters #NewWatersRecovery #LifeSkills #CannabisInducedPsychosis #PsychiatricCare #TraumaRecovery #SoberLiving #DelrayBeach #CrisisIntervention
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Website: www.findingnewwaters.com
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
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What does a real behavioral health crisis look like, and how do families navigate the confusing road to recovery? In this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Henry Maxwell of Maxwell Recovery Services to discuss the reality of modern case management, the dangers of high-potency cannabis, and why the old narrative of confrontational interventions needs to change.
Henry shares his personal journey from surviving severe adolescent heroin addiction to founding a concierge crisis management and long-term case management firm in Carbondale, Colorado. The conversation dives deep into the rising acuity of mental health issues, dealing with family dynamics, and the critical importance of long-term support systems.
TIMESTAMPS
[01:00:00] Finding New Waters Welcome and Guest Introduction
[01:00:57] What is Concierge Crisis Management and Long-Term Case Management?
[01:01:34] Defining a Crisis: Suicidal, Homicidal, and Acute Substance Risks
[01:03:43] Reality Testing: How to Slow Down a Dysregulated Family System
[01:05:20] Debunking the Television Myth of "Intervention"
[01:07:43] Reframing "Tough Love" vs. Structured Family Conversations
[01:09:24] Why Families Know What to Do But Can't Do It Without Support
[01:11:46] The Primary Role: "Being the calmest person in the room."
[01:12:39] Cultivating Resiliency and Navigating a Fragmented Healthcare System
[01:14:53] Henry Maxwell's Story: Severe Adolescent Heroin Addiction to Recovery
[01:16:05] Getting Started in Community Mental Health and Detox Centers
[01:20:07] Navigating Complex Dynamics and Divorced Parents in a Crisis
[01:22:12] The Changing Drug Landscape: Fentanyl vs. the Rise of Cannabis Calls
[01:24:38] The Evolution of Modern Cannabis: Potency Increases and Parental Blindspots
[01:27:23] Vapes, Gummies, and Continuous Ingestion Hazards
[01:28:33] Understanding Cannabis Induced Hyperemesis and Cyclical Vomiting
[01:29:26] How to Connect with Maxwell Recovery Services
[01:31:40] Closing Remarks and Future Collaboration
NOTABLE QUOTES
* "Essentially we, we support families in going from the initial crisis stage of, you know, a behavioral health issue to thriving at the end of that." - Henry Maxwell
* "When families in particular are, are really dysregulated, they're, they're having a very hard time... I consider that crisis too" - Henry Maxwell
* "When we're showing up, when we're offering support and we're also saying, we are not going to continue to support you harming yourself. That's not tough. That's just love." - Henry Maxwell
* "I think a lot of people know what to do. They just can't do it. Right. And that speaks to, I think, the nature of relationship and support" - Henry Maxwell
* "Relationship is the name of the game. Right." - Henry Maxwell
* "Cannabis potency on average has gone up something like 400% over the last 20 years. And it is a different, a different game these days." - Henry Maxwell
LINKS & RESOURCES
* Maxwell Recovery Services Website: https://maxwellrecoveryservices.com
🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
CALL TO ACTION
If you or a loved one are walking through a behavioral health crisis, don't navigate it alone. Subscribe to Finding New Waters for more insights from recovery experts, like this video, and share your thoughts in the comments below.
#FindingNewWaters #AddictionRecovery #MentalHealthCrisis #Intervention #CaseManagement #CannabisAwareness #ToughLove #RecoveryJourney #SubstanceUseDisorder #BehavioralHealth #HealingFamilies
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On this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with legendary singer-songwriter Edwin McCain. Best known for his massive hits "I'll Be" and "I Could Not Ask For More," Edwin opens up about a side of his life rarely seen in the spotlight.
From his early days in Greenville, South Carolina, and his adoption journey, to the high-stakes pressure of the music industry and his personal path through recovery, Edwin shares a raw and honest look at what happens when the music stops. He discusses the intersection of ADHD and addiction, the "protocol" of 1970s adoption, and why he feels he is simply "paying the wage" to his 15-year-old self.
**Chapter Timestamps**
00:00 - Intro: Welcome Edwin McCain
01:02 - The "Orphanage Protocol" and adoption story
01:03 - Growing up with ADHD and dyslexia in the South
01:06 - Finding an aptitude for music
01:10 - Living the 15-year-old dream
01:13 - The "Sellout" trap in the jam band scene
01:16 - Life on tour with Bob Weir
01:20 - The ADHD treatment paradox and early substance use
01:22 - Why the music industry won't "clean you up"
01:24 - The crossroads: No one is coming to save you
01:26 - "Welcome to the club": Finding community in treatment
01:35 - Reclaiming "Analog Peace" in a digital world
01:54 - Hopes for the next generation and closing thoughts
#EdwinMcCain #FindingNewWaters #Recovery #MusicIndustry #AddictionRecovery #ADHD #MentalHealth #IllBe #Podcast #HealingJourney
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Website: www.findingnewwaters.com
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw
YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Evan Jarschauer, a licensed psychotherapist and mental health intervention specialist with nearly two decades of experience helping families navigate crisis, treatment, and recovery.
Evan explains what makes mental health interventions different from traditional substance use interventions, why gambling and online gaming are becoming more difficult to detect, how families can take action when a loved one refuses help, and why intervention work must be done with compassion, dignity, love, and a firm backbone.
TIMESTAMPS
[00:00:00] Welcome to Finding New Waters with Evan Jarschauer
[00:01:18] What mental health interventions actually are
[00:02:38] Helping families when the message is not being received
[00:03:59] Evan’s background as a licensed psychotherapist
[00:05:08] What a gambling intervention can look like
[00:06:21] Why online gambling is making addiction harder to see
[00:07:36] “I’m not drinking. I’m not drugging”
[00:08:28] Why Evan says his world has exploded with mental health, gaming, and gambling cases
[00:09:34] Why interventionists should connect with casino management first
[00:11:50] Why there is no cookie cutter answer for gambling treatment
[00:12:53] Gathering collateral information before an intervention
[00:14:25] Timing a gambling intervention
[00:15:47] Why the family’s readiness matters
[00:16:10] Comparing crisis response to any other serious disease
[00:17:14] Respectful, dignified, supportive, loving, firm intervention
[00:17:38] Evan’s television work and public awareness
[00:18:31] Demystifying what interventions look like
[00:19:42] Standing in front of the Kardashians house in Calabasas
[00:20:56] “If you can just touch one family”
[00:21:39] Mental health struggles can be hidden in plain sight
[00:23:31] Treating every family like they matter deeply
[00:25:24] Reducing stigma and helping people access care
[00:25:50] How to find Evan Jarschauer
[00:26:31] Closing thoughts
LINKS & RESOURCES
Behavioral Help: https://www.behavioralhelp.com
New Waters Recovery: https://newwatersrecovery.com
CALL TO ACTION
If this conversation helped you better understand mental health interventions, gambling addiction, family crisis, or how to support someone who refuses help, subscribe to Finding New Waters for more honest conversations about recovery, mental health, treatment, and hope.
Like this episode, leave a comment with what stood out to you, and share it with a family who may need to hear it.
#FindingNewWaters
#NewWatersRecovery
#MentalHealth
#MentalHealthIntervention
#AddictionRecovery
#GamblingAddiction
#OnlineGambling
#FamilySupport
#BehavioralHealth
#RecoveryPodcast
#DualDiagnosis
#CrisisIntervention
#MentalHealthAwareness
#TreatmentWorks
#ReduceTheStigma
🎙️ Watch & Listen
Website: www.findingnewwaters.com
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw
YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
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Nick Slovak, the Chief Operating Officer of Advaita Health, joins the Finding New Waters podcast to discuss the critical evolution of behavioral health care. He shares his personal journey of finding sobriety at age 21 and how that experience shaped his mission to create more accessible treatment systems in North Carolina.
The conversation explores the transition from high-end private pay models to an integrated, insurance-based system of care that addresses the crisis of psychiatry wait times. Justin and Nick dive into the importance of supporting healthcare providers and why building a genuine community remains the most vital component of long-term recovery.
TIMESTAMPS
[00:00:00] Introduction to Nick Slovak and Advaita Health
[00:02:10] Nick Slovak's personal recovery story
[00:05:07] Moving from private pay to insurance models
[00:07:36] The feedback that changed their business model
[00:08:55] Scaling care and working with insurance payers
[00:13:26] Defining the integrated model of care
[00:15:28] Solving the crisis of psychiatry wait times
[00:16:48] The courage required to ask for help
[00:20:02] Prioritizing provider support and staff wellbeing
[00:23:16] Why community is central to the recovery process
[00:27:18] Emotional health as a lifelong journey
[00:29:18] How to contact Veda Health and Advaita Health
NOTABLE QUOTES
* "I got sober when I was 21 years old."
* "The gene of addiction, I think runs, fairly deep."
* "You just run a very expensive sober living."
* "It remains accessible to get the help that you need."
* "Access, um, is really an important piece."
* "Community is central."
LINKS & RESOURCES
* Primary Website: newwatersrecovery.com
* Advaita Health: vedahealth.com
* Aim Wellbeing: aimwellbeing.com
* Green Hill Recovery: greenhillrecovery.com
DONATION / SUPPORT
Not mentioned in transcript.
CALL TO ACTION
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KEYWORDS
Advaita Health, Nick Slovak, Justin McClendon, Finding New Waters, addiction recovery, mental health North Carolina, behavioral health, psychiatry wait times, insurance based treatment, Raleigh recovery, substance use, integrated care, recovery journey, sobriety, mental health stigma, healthcare operations, Veda Health, Aim Wellbeing, Green Hill Recovery, substance use provider, PHP, IOP, outpatient care, medication management, provider burnout, healthcare culture, behavioral health home, adolescent mental health, young adult recovery, North Carolina healthcare.
HASHTAGS
#NickSlovak #AdvaitaHealth #FindingNewWaters #Recovery #MentalHealth #Sobriety #NorthCarolina #BehavioralHealth #AddictionRecovery #HealthcareReform #Psychiatry #MentalHealthAwareness
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"I help people find freedom in their system by getting out of freeze." Brooke Powers joins Finding New Waters to discuss somatic coaching and nervous system regulation.
In this episode, we explore how your body stores trauma and why "our state of our nervous system tells our story." Brooke explains her four part framework: Acclimate, Incorporate, Rediscover, and Embody to help clients shift into a connected, regulated state.
TIMESTAMPS
[01:00:09] Introduction to Brooke Powers and Wellness Assist
[01:00:47] What is a somatic coach?
[01:01:41] The four part somatic framework
[01:02:00] Understanding the "freeze" state: activation and shutdown
[01:03:34] How to do the "Huberman breath" for regulation
[01:05:22] Why we pick up our caregiver's nervous system state
[01:06:46] Scanning the world for danger: hypervigilance
[01:07:27] Finding moments of safety as anchors
[01:08:46] Post traumatic growth and health scares
[01:09:54] Explaining the Ventral Ladder and Polyvagal Theory
[01:11:38] Dissociation: being a "fly on the corner" of your life
[01:13:14] Ice baths: getting back into your body
[01:15:19] Using infrared saunas and vibration plates to build resilience
[01:18:32] PTSD and how the body stores trauma
[01:21:02] Re parenting the younger self through "parts work"
[01:23:06] Is trauma the real gateway drug?
[01:26:34] Why we should teach kids regulating resources
[01:28:20] The link between dehydration, sleep, and anxiety
[01:31:46] Logistics: How to find and work with Brooke Powers
LINKS & RESOURCES
Primary Website: newwatersrecovery.com
Brooke Powers Website: somaticcoachingnc.com
Wellness Assist
Instagram: @be_your_oasis
Book: "The Body Keeps the Score" by Bessel van der Kolk
Theory: Polyvagal Theory by Deb Dana
Resource: Tim Fletcher YouTube Channel
Location Mentioned: Grove Park Inn, Asheville
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves sits down with Dr. Yesenia Almaguer and Andrew Ditts, the husband and wife founders of SOHL.
Dr. Almaguer explains SOHL as “the mental health SWAT team,” built to support worried families who are in crisis and do not know where to start. They break down what SOHL actually does, including interventions, case management, and coaching, and why there is no “cookie cutter approach” when the situation involves multiple layers like addiction, trauma, and personality disorders.
Andrew shares why having a psychiatrist who is also an interventionist changes everything in complex cases, from recognizing the difference between “manic” and emotional dysregulation, to identifying signs that could suggest a thought disorder. Dr. Almaguer also shares why her experience working in a mobile crisis unit in the Bronx prepared her for in-home crisis work, and why SOHL is focused on ethics, training, and working themselves out of a job.
CHAPTERS
[01:00:14] Welcome back, introductions, Dr. Yesenia Almaguer and Andrew Ditts
[01:01:01] “mental health SWAT team” and what SOHL is
[01:02:30] Andrew defines SOHL: complex in-home crisis cases, building and removing the team
[01:04:48] What an intervention is, and why it is a process
[01:06:14] Why a typical sit-down model can fail in complex mental health cases
[01:08:42] Why having an MD involved in interventions matters
[01:10:10] Why going into the home changes what you can assess
[01:11:26] Black Swan training and Harvard negotiation training
[01:12:50] Andrew on “manic,” assessment, and why medical training changes the questions
[01:16:00] Example: details that can point to a thought disorder presentation
[01:18:10] Dr. Almaguer New York case example: asking the right questions to build trust
[01:20:05] B Reeves on “mania” being thrown around and why it matters
[01:23:12] Andrew’s path: USC acting conservatory, addiction, and 12 Step in Los Angeles
[01:26:35] Program junkie, early industry “wild wild west,” and why case management matters
[01:32:02] Dr. Almaguer background: Mexico, Miami, Bronx residency, Dallas fellowship
[01:34:40] Why they started SOHL and changing the culture for clients and companions
[01:36:36] Why it is spelled SOHL, “human connection to heal the soul”
[01:37:30] Andrew on connection, attachment, and why relationships drive change
[01:40:37] How to find SOHL, monthly trainings, Companion Circle, supervision group
[01:42:22] Contact emails and closing
GUEST AND ORGANIZATION LINKS
SOHL Website
https://www.thesohl.com
Customized Care for Substance Use Disorder & Mental Illness | SOHL
https://www.instagram.com/thesohl?igsh=MWlzY2t5bDh1cXFyaw==
https://www.facebook.com/share/1KqcSVjCqZ/?mibextid=wwXIfr
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sohl-enterprises-a40873211?utm_source=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=member_ios
SOHL LinkedIn
Soul Enterprises Incorporated
SOHL Instagram
@thesohl
SOHL Emails
Jump to:
[01:01:01] What SOHL is
[01:04:48] What an intervention really is
[01:12:50] Why having a psychiatrist in the full process changes outcomes
[01:36:36] Why it is spelled SOHL
Website: https://thesohl.com/
Instagram: @thesohl
Instagram Business - thesohl
LinkedIn Business - SOHL Enterprises
Andrew's Personal LinkedIn - Andrew Dits
Dr. Almaguer's Personal LinkedIn - Yesenia Almaguer, M.D.
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Jesse Quam, an educational consultant and therapist based in Black Mountain, North Carolina.
Jesse shares how a friend’s wilderness job in Utah “changed my life,” what it actually means when people say “wilderness,” and why getting outside and away from technology can reset the nervous system and the family system. He breaks down how therapeutic wilderness evolved from early programs like BYU 480, why outcome data matters, and what he believes will bring wilderness back in a big way as phone use and modern distractions keep climbing.
Jesse also pulls the curtain back on what a therapeutic educational consultant does: how the first call works, why the whole family has to join the process, and how he helps families make the right “chess moves” across a full year of treatment and aftercare.
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CHAPTERS
[01:00:35] Introductions: B Reeves, Justin McClendon, Jesse Quam
[01:01:57] Jesse’s background: pastor’s kid, Chicago, Utah wilderness, Boston College
[01:03:35] Educational consulting: visiting 305 programs, supporting families through the year
[01:04:48] What “wilderness” actually means in this field
[01:05:40] BYU 480 and the roots of wilderness programs
[01:06:31] Safety, outcomes, and what the data says
[01:07:49] Why wilderness programs declined and why they may come back
[01:10:47] Phones, modern life, and why a detox matters
[01:17:35] What Jesse does when a family calls: first call process
[01:19:40] Family system buy-in, boundaries, and using leverage when needed
[01:22:54] What changed over 30 years: internal kids, isolation, social skills, fentanyl risk
[01:27:02] Community connection and longevity
[01:30:30] Outward Bound influence and experiential learning
[01:34:46] Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter Outward Bound story
[01:35:35] Wrap-up and closing
GUEST AND ORGANIZATION LINKS
Jesse Quam and Dr. John Huie (Quam & Huie: Educational Consultants)
http://johnhuie.com/about-us/
RESOURCES MENTIONED
Outward Bound
https://www.outwardbound.org/
NOLS
https://www.nols.edu/
Montreat College
https://www.montreat.edu/
Boston College School of Social Work
https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/schools/ssw.html
The Carter Center
https://www.cartercenter.org/
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves sits down with Dr. Kate Truitt, clinical psychologist and neuroscientist, for a conversation that moves from survival to real tools. Dr. Kate shares what it was like to be hit by a drunk driver, the identity shift of “self” coming back online, and why even experts struggle to use their own tools at first.
They break down trauma through a brain-based lens: safety, belonging, and agency. You’ll also hear the clearest explanation of grief as a learning process, what “traumatic grief” looks like, and why forgiveness is not a mandate. Dr. Kate also teaches a simple “moving hug” mindful touch practice and explains why “we can’t think our way through” the parts of the brain that hold trauma.
CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS
[01:00:00] Welcome and introduction
[01:01:05] Hit by a drunk driver: broken neck, brain injury, crushed spine
[01:02:32] “Not so well at the beginning”: the pressure of being an expert
[01:03:56] Writing a book during recovery: burnout + self-compassion
[01:05:16] Milwaukee → Kansas City → Los Angeles: the road to her work
[01:05:22] Scholarship and a modeling contract
[01:05:31] Modeling, anorexia, and the pivot into academia
[01:07:17] Burnout in helping professions and boundaries
[01:09:09] The Brain Partnership Toolbox: why she wrote it
[01:10:17] Self-compassion: “It’s a skill. It’s not innate.”
[01:13:13] Goldie Hawn’s MindUP and trauma-informed work in schools
[01:16:35] Mindful touch: “moving hug” and C-tactile fibers
[01:18:28] “We can’t think our way through it.”
[01:20:02] Trauma and grief: what she focuses on
[01:21:06] Big T vs small T trauma: why she takes it off the table
[01:22:09] The amygdala’s three core values: safe, belong, agency
[01:23:16] Trauma as threat + survival encoding
[01:25:40] Her clinic model: specialists + neurobiology training
[01:26:20] “Shame goes down, opportunity goes up.”
[01:27:44] Grief as learning: what the brain has to update
[01:28:42] Traumatic grief: when grief gets paralyzed
[01:29:39] Substances and pain: “turn the volume down”
[01:31:08] One person can change the trajectory
[01:32:22] Widowed before her wedding: trauma vulnerability
[01:33:25] Forgiveness after trauma: where to start
[01:34:20] “Forgiveness is not a mandate.”
[01:36:41] When forgiveness becomes toxic and boundaries get blurry
[01:39:06] Finding help as a trainer: dual relationships and privacy
[01:44:18] Patterns, burnout, and getting curious about the sprint
[01:44:51] How to find Dr. Kate Truitt + free resources
NOTABLE QUOTES
“almost a year ago to the day… I was hit by a drunk driver… broke my neck, brain injury, crushed my spine.”
“The, there's a little tidbit about self-compassion is that it's a skill. It's not innate.”
“our thinking brain is a pretty new to the game… We can't think our way through it. Just can't.”
“And those values are first and foremost, am I safe?”
“Forgiveness is not so it's not a, it's not a mandate. It's not a requirement.”
LINKS & RESOURCES MENTIONED
Dr. Kate Truitt website: https://www.drkatetruitt.com/
Free resources page: https://www.drkatetruitt.com/freeresources
Dr. Kate Truitt YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrKateTruitt
MindUP (Goldie Hawn Foundation): https://www.mindup.org/
The Brain Partnership Toolbox (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Partnership-Toolbox-Addiction-Mental-Professionals/dp/B0FYNNKH4C
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Bogie Bowles, Clinical Director at Ascend Recovery in Utah, with deep North Carolina connections and a story rooted in early sobriety.
Bogie shares what it was like getting sober at 18 as a freshman at Carolina, navigating recovery while still living a musician’s life, and building a career in the field. The conversation also gets real about what has changed in treatment and culture since the 90s.
They take a hard look at today’s high-potency THC landscape, the false sense of safety around “it’s just weed,” and the unregulated Delta and THCA products that are showing up everywhere. If you have a teen, work in the field, or have ever minimized cannabis because of what it used to be, this episode will shift your perspective.
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Timestamps
[01:00:00] Welcome back + Bogie Bowles intro (Ascend Recovery, Utah)
[01:01:00] North Carolina connections + music background (Knockdown Smilin)
[01:02:26] Getting sober at 18 as a freshman at Carolina
[01:11:12] “One and done from treatment” and trying to stop but not being able to stop
[01:11:44] Treatment then vs now (two-week model, 35 years ago)
[01:22:01] Music, recovery, and professional life now
[01:24:16] Staying close to recovery while traveling as a musician
[01:31:42] How “weed” changed from the 90s to now
[01:33:47] Delta / THCA products and the unregulated chemical problem
[01:34:26] The “blueberry muffin” analogy and what families are missing
[01:37:32] Reefer madness, cultural backlash, and why the warning signs got ignored
[01:38:41] “Desperate Lives” and the scary stuff that is not a joke anymore
[01:39:03] Wrap-up + how to find Ascend Recovery
Bogie Bowles, LCSW
Clinical Director
Bogie graduated in 2015 from the University of North Carolina with a Masters of Social Work. A former professional musician, Bogie expanded his perspective of the connection between mental health and addiction while working at the psychiatric unit at Duke Hospital. Following his time at Duke, he then worked with a large addiction treatment facility using his unique musical background to co-create a program specifically designed to treat music industry professionals. Bogie is the newest on our team and is seeking to further his experience in treating co-occurring disorders, and to continue pursuing his passion for music and service. Additionally, he co-wrote a curriculum for an Extended Care Program focusing on the challenges of recovery in everyday life. Bogie has been with Ascend since 2018.
Bogie entered his own recovery from addiction at the age of eighteen. He has toured and recorded with various artist for over twenty years. In his personal life, he continues to play and record music, enjoys being in nature, engages in the recovery community, and practices meditation.
Guest and Organization Links
Ascend Recovery: https://ascendrecovery.com/
Ascend Recovery Team: https://ascendrecovery.com/inpatient-drug-rehab-staff/
Ascend Recovery Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ascendrecovery/
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and Justin McLendon sit down with Rick Hubbard in Fort Worth with Constellation Behavioral Health.
Rick shares how he went from retail banking to finding himself in a treatment center in West Texas, losing “everything that was dear to me,” and then being asked to come work for the very place that helped him. He talks about what he has done since 2002, connecting professionals, families, and individuals to the help they need, often referring people to services outside of the company he represents.
This conversation goes deep on purpose, service, and availability in the recovery field. Rick explains why he answers the phone when it rings, why “the disease of addiction does not take PTO,” and how the 12 step process is about learning “just trying to be a better human.” He also shares a powerful personal story about discovering he has a son later in life, and how that discovery changed everything.
Timestamps
[01:25:43] Welcome back + introductions (B Reeves, Justin McLendon, Rick Hubbard)
[01:26:35] Rick’s background: retail banking, starting in 1976
[01:27:06] Late 90s detour: treatment center in West Texas
[01:27:16] “I had lost everything that was dear to me”
[01:27:57] Starting the work in 2002: connecting people to help
[01:30:13] Perspective at 71, recovery, and living differently
[01:33:16] “This is the best life I’ve ever lived” and the 12 step process
[01:36:56] Why Rick answers the phone: “the disease… does not take PTO”
[01:40:43] “It’s the work that we’ve been chosen to do”
[01:43:19] Discovering he has a son later in life
[01:49:31] Meeting Kirk Franklin and the story going public
[01:51:58] 23andMe and Ancestry revealing family connections
[01:54:58] Rick’s professional timeline: West Texas, Florida, Origins, Hanley, Constellation
[01:59:29] Constellation transition and rebrand under Sero Mental Health
[02:01:38] How to contact Rick (phone + email)
#FindingNewWatersPodcast #Recovery #AddictionRecovery #Sobriety #TwelveStep #12Step #Treatment #MentalHealth #RecoveryCommunity #ServiceWork #CrisisSupport #FamilyReunion #KirkFranklin #ConstellationBehavioralHealth #SeroMentalHealth
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and Justin McLendon sit down with Matt Nannis, founder and executive director of PIVOTPoint WNCn Asheville.
Matt opens up about feeling like an “outsider” and dealing with “imposter syndrome,” and he shares why he started Pivot Point after moving into a sober home in Asheville in 2013. He talks candidly about the guilt and shame he carried in that season, and why Sundays on the trail became the one time he didn’t feel “failure, shameful, degenerate.”
You’ll also hear how PIVOTPoint WNC supports adolescents through extended Saturday programming and school partnerships, including how referrals work, why the approach is non-coercive, and what it looks like to build individualized plans that get “to that thing under the thing, under the thing.” Matt breaks down how the organization stays adaptable, how they expand intentionally, and why small habits and discipline can change how we show up in everyday life.
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Timestamps
[01:16:59] Welcome back + hosts intro + Matt Nannis introduction (PIVOTPoint WNC)
[01:17:59] How B Reeves and Matt first met
[01:18:19] Expanding Recovery for Young People conference (Hendersonville)
[01:19:11] “Imposter syndrome,” “outsider,” and why Pivot Point started (Asheville 2013)
[01:19:35] “Man, I hated it” + guilt and shame in the halfway house
[01:20:31] Sunday hikes and not feeling “failure, shameful, degenerate”
[01:35:42] Pivot Point model: Saturday program, afterschool program, referrals, non-coercive approach
[01:46:45] Where the name “Pivot Point” came from (opportunity and willingness)
[01:50:10] Serving families outside Buncombe County + adaptability + school partnerships
[01:58:06] Small habits and self-talk: “make your bed,” “brush your teeth”
[01:59:17] How to find PIVOTPoint WNC (website + contact info)
Guest and Organization Links
Pivot Point WNC: https://pivotpointwnc.org/
Pivot Point WNC Team (Matt): https://pivotpointwnc.org/the-team/
Finding New Waters / New Waters Recovery
New Waters Recovery: https://newwatersrecovery.com/
Finding New Waters: https://www.findingnewwaters.com/
#FindingNewWatersPodcast #MattNannis #PivotPointWNC #Recovery #AddictionRecovery #Sobriety #SoberLiving #EarlyRecovery #OutdoorTherapy #TherapeuticAdventure #AshevilleNC #RecoveryCommunity #MentalHealth #Discipline #ShameToHope
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Most people know AA. Almost nobody knows the real story of NA. 
From arrests and raids to meetings on the Staten Island ferry, this episode traces how the NA message survived and spread worldwide. 
Chris Budnick (Healing Transitions) and Boyd Pickard walk through the chronology and history of Narcotics Anonymous, including early roots connected to the US Public Health Hospital in Lexington, Kentucky (the “narcotic farm”), and the evolution from Addicts Anonymous into Narcotics Anonymous. 
You will hear how early members faced stigma and real pressure from authorities, why the wording of Step One became a defining innovation, and how the fellowship grew into a global force, including the surprising reality that “one third of all weekly Narcotics Anonymous meetings in the world occur in Iran.” 
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TIMESTAMPS (copy/paste)
[01:05:53] Introductions and opening
[01:06:10] Healing Transitions tough stretch and honoring Byron 
[01:10:14] Why people know AA but not NA 
[01:10:52] Boyd’s curiosity about NA roots 
[01:12:02] Chris’s background and recovery path 
[01:13:33] Slaying the Dragon and the page and a half on NA history 
[01:15:02] Narcotic farm and the Lexington story 
[01:16:33] If you know your history why this matters 
[01:18:28] Stigma segregation and threats in the early era 
[01:18:48] Arrests and Staten Island ferry meetings 
[01:19:51] When did NA officially start 
[01:21:40] Preserving the Message and why archives matter 
[01:22:37] Harrison Act and addiction trajectory 
[01:24:33] Dr Tom Shelby and early AA influence in NC 
[01:29:52] February 1947 Addicts Anonymous begins 
[01:32:11] Houston at long last I learned to hope 
[01:34:14] Danny Carlson coins Narcotics Anonymous 
[01:34:36] Women’s House of Detention Salvation Army early locations 
[01:41:52] Danny’s death and stability 
[01:46:09] Was Bill W helpful to NA 
[01:48:33] Step One shift changed everything 
[01:51:01] Total abstinence and modern NA challenges 
[01:55:03] Nobody believed that addicts could recover 
[01:59:51] AA vs NA explained 
[02:03:01] Iran and global NA growth 
[02:03:19] Recommended resources 
[02:06:13] Wrap-up and closing 
GUEST LINKS
Chris Budnick (Healing Transitions bio)
https://healing-transitions.org/about/leadership/chris-budnick-executive-director/ 
Healing Transitions (official website)
https://healing-transitions.org/ 
Healing Transitions (mission/about)
https://healing-transitions.org/about/ 
Healing Transitions (services)
https://healing-transitions.org/recovery-services/ 
Boyd Pickard (Preserving the Message bio)
https://preservingthemessage.org/about/boyd-pickard/ 
Preserving the Message (official site)
https://preservingthemessage.org/ 
Healing Transitions (donate page, if you want to include it)
https://healing-transitions.org/donate/ 
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Ronan O’Loughlin, founder and owner of Peace and Purpose Sober Living in Asheville, North Carolina, for a deeply honest conversation about recovery, humility, fear, and the spiritual foundation of long-term sobriety.
Ronan shares his personal journey through addiction, immigration, bartending, and eventual recovery, including his path into opening a sober living rooted firmly in 12-step principles. With candor, humor, and wisdom, he reflects on desperation, ego, fear, and what it truly means to live with peace and purpose.
This episode explores:
Ronan’s recovery journey and early sobriety
Addiction, desperation, and the gift of not wanting to use
Bartending, ego, and identity in active addiction
Why Peace and Purpose Sober Living was created
The role of legacy, loss, and service in recovery work
Fear as the root of anger and ego-based thinking
Infantile expectations and the bondage of self
Why 12-step foundations still matter
Humility, vocation, and doing recovery work for the right reasons
This is a grounded, reflective conversation about what sustains recovery over time and why authenticity, humility, and spiritual growth remain at the core of lasting change.
YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Welcome to Finding New Waters
01:00 Introducing Ronan O’Loughlin
02:20 Ronan’s addiction and recovery story
04:30 Desperation, heroin detox, and early sobriety
06:40 Bartending, ego, and identity
09:00 Work, immigration, and addiction
11:30 The meaning behind Peace and Purpose
13:40 Why sober living and how it began
16:20 Legacy, loss, and continuing the mission
18:50 Service, humility, and recovery as vocation
21:30 Fear as the root of anger
24:00 Ego-based fear and infantile expectations
26:40 The bondage of self
29:00 Faith, fear, and spiritual growth
31:00 The enduring role of 12-step recovery
33:30 Partnering, community, and closing reflections
GUEST LINKS – RONAN O’LOUGHLIN / PEACE AND PURPOSE SOBER LIVING
Website: https://www.peaceandpurposeavl.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peaceandpurposeavl
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/peaceandpurposeavl
FOLLOW NEW WATERS RECOVERY
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc
WATCH AND LISTEN
Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw
YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and New Waters Recovery CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Will Crosswell, therapist, clinical interventionist, and founder of Crosswell Interventions in Austin, Texas, for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about recovery, mental health crises, and the evolving landscape of substance use.
Will shares his personal recovery story, his path from residential treatment work to clinical interventions, and why he was drawn back into high-intensity crisis work after years in private practice. Together, the group explores how modern interventions require a trauma-informed, clinical lens, especially as substances like Delta-8, kratom, and other gas-station products drive increasing rates of psychosis and severe mental health instability.
This episode explores:
Will’s journey into recovery and clinical social work
What a clinical interventionist is and why it matters
Differences between substance-use and primary mental health interventions
The rise of psychosis linked to synthetic and unregulated substances
Delta-8, kratom, kava, and gas-station drugs
Why some people do not fully “come back” after prolonged use
Family systems, healing, and preventing further rupture
Finding joy, music, and freedom in sober living
Building a life that no longer requires escape
This is a powerful conversation about responsibility, honesty, and what it truly means to help families through their darkest moments while protecting long-term recovery.
YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Welcome to Finding New Waters
01:00 Introducing Will Crosswell
02:40 Will’s background and work in mental health and addiction
04:30 Will’s recovery story
06:30 From treatment centers to clinical interventions
08:40 What a clinical interventionist does
11:00 Mental health vs substance use interventions
13:40 Trauma-informed and family-centered approaches
16:00 The rise of psychosis linked to Delta-8 and gas-station drugs
18:30 Kratom, kava, and unregulated substances
21:00 The danger of normalization and misinformation
23:40 Long-term consequences and “not coming back”
26:00 Recovery, neutrality, and no longer needing escape
29:00 Music, concerts, and sober living
32:00 Finding joy and freedom without substances
34:30 How to contact Will Crosswell
36:00 Final thoughts and closing
GUEST LINKS – WILL CROSSWELL
Website: https://www.crosswellinterventions.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crosswellinterventions
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/crosswell-interventions
Phone: 830-992-5836
FOLLOW NEW WATERS RECOVERY
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc
WATCH AND LISTEN
Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw
YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn
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