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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 118, 119, 120, and 121, , "Prelude to Vengeance," "Battle Cry," "Goku Strikes Back," and "The Biggest Crisis." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and discuss the concept of achieving salvation by traveling through hell via the fight between Goku and Piccolo.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney are reeling from their call with FriezaWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Comparisons between the moves here and those seen in some Akira Kurosawa movies, Sanshiro Sugata (1 and 2) as well the Ultraman series with UltrasevenPower level tropes being utilizedGoku fulfilling Uranai Baba's prophecyGoku taunting Piccolo using a childlike phraseJapanese voice actor Aono Takeshi (for Piccolo) setting a precedent for Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat by almost passing out in the recording boothThe trials of The Buddha, Jesus Christ, and Dante Alleghiri with regards to achieving salvationDiscussing saru, Japanese for monkey, and how monkeys are seen as demon repellantsDiscussing May 9th, Goku Day...or Piccolo Day...How monkeys play into BuddhismAnother pivot, slight though it may be, of Dragon Ball's tone and styleand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 114, 115, 116, and 117, , "Conquest and Power," "Awaken Darkness," "A Taste of Destiny," and "The Ultimate Sacrifice." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and discuss the concept of Senzu beans and how they work.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney are prepping to return to their adventures, and a surprise call awaits them at the end...We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments The story of Emperor Win Shihuang who ruled China in the 200s BCThe idea of the denshija and how it externalizes Piccolo's innermost fearsIf there might perhaps be a parallel between Pilaf and Majin Buu...or more accurately BabidiKing Furry's resemblance to Teddy RooseveltThe meaning of senzuTautologiesThe origin of senzu from Daoist practicesGross.The compounding effects of senzuUltra Divine Water or Super God WaterThe root of the termsConnections to Daoist fastingDiscussions of alchemyand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue their break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon, and pivot away from tearing into the manga and anime that are the most crucial parts of the Dragon Ball franchise to have a little themed fun!

    In this episode:

    It's TOURNAMENT SEASON! Kick off your shoes, relax, and listen as we break down 32 of Dragon Ball's most popular (?) characters and discuss who would win in a theoretical game of one-on-one Halo.We take if from the round of 32, down to the Sweet 16, Head into the Elite Eight, jump into the Final Four, and then choose our champion!Who will reign supreme and be declared the number one under heaven in 1-on-1 basketball?

    Join us as we take a break from uncovering the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise and have some March Madness themed fun!

  • Jelli and Bekinney take a break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon, and pivot away from tearing into the manga and anime that are the most crucial parts of the Dragon Ball franchise to have a little themed fun!

    In this episode:

    It's TOURNAMENT SEASON! Kick off your shoes, relax, and listen as we break down 64 of Dragon Ball's most popular (?) characters and discuss who would win in a theoretical episode of Iron Chef.We discuss the system used for determining outcomes.We break down our opponents in each matchup.In the Saiyan Region: Will Goku topple Tarble, will Vegeta defeat Paragus, who will win when Broly encounters Goten? Will the timeline handle Future Trunks facing off against his younger self? Can Gohan defeat King Vegeta? Can Cabba beat Bardock? Can Kale topple Nappa? Will Caulifla be able to defeat Raditz?In the Earthling Region:Krillin vs Yajirobe, Bulma vs Chiaotzu, Android 17 vs Ox King, Android 18 vs Mr Satan, Yamcha vs Chichi, Tien vs Nam, Android 16 vs Videl, Master Roshi vs LaunchIn the Villains Region: Can Frieza out-fox Mercenary Tao? Will Hit topple Recoome? Will Zamasu throttle King Cold? Who is more nefarious, Cooler or Pilaf? Who has the mad skills, Ginyu or Dabura? Will Buu beat down Android 19? Will Jiren smash Dr Gero? Can Cell prove to be more perfect than Garlic Jr?In the Deity/Ally Region:Who will win when Beerus, Oolong, Korin, Mr Popo, Nail, Elder Kai, Supreme Kai Shin, Puar, King Kai, Gregory, Dende, Kabito, Kami, King Yemma, Piccolo, and Jaco all face off?

    Join us as we take a break from uncovering the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise and have some March Madness themed fun!

  • On this episode of Final Forum, we discuss the recent, unfortunate, and untimely passing of Akira Toriyama, and do our best to talk about what his works, from Dragon Ball, to Dr. Slump, to Dragon Quest, to Chrono Trigger, meant to us, and attempt to parse this news as best we can.

    We were joined on this episode by our friend Lux Edwards (Soulmass218 Linktree).

  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 110, 111, 112 and 113, , "Piccolo Closes In," "Roshi's Gambit," "King Piccolo's Wish," and "Siege on Chow Castle." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and discuss the "man" of the hour himself: Great Demon King Piccolo (orPiccolo Daimao).

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney are returning to Frieza Force controlled spaceWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Discussing the puns of Piccolo's name as well as the meaning of DaimaoDrawing a parallel between Piccolo's airship and the Hayao Miyazaki movie Castle in the SkyKazuhiko Torishima's inspiration that led Akira Toriyama to create PiccoloHow Piccolo attacking martial artists parallels real life demons fearing Daoist, Buddhist, and Shintoist priestsThe origins of the Pokopen chant that's done when Piccolo gives birthThe importance of Piccolo having only four fingersA discussion of the burakumin, and why the anime staff MAY have changed Piccolo's design prior to animating him in the showand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 108 and 109, , "Goku's Revenge," and "Goku vs. King Piccolo." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and break down Piccolo's Children, Tambourine, Cymbal, Drum and Piano (and more).

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney are trying to find a way off the planet where they are strandedWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Discussing puns, Piccolo, Drum, Piano, Cymbal and TambourineMentioning Piccolo's non-canon children, Ukulele, Harp, Mandolin, Maraca, Organ, Castanets, Harmonica, and Bongo, and their appearances in video games, including Damaio FukkatsuBreaking down Tambourine, his voice actors Dameon Clarke and Ryusei Nakao and their connections to other characters like Frieza, Cell, Krillin, Nuova Shenron and Eis ShenronDiscussing Cymbal, his voice actors Brad Jackson and Daisuke Gori, and their connections to other characters including Ox King, Turtle, Ghastiel, InoShikaCho, Drum, King Yemma, Porunga, Mr. Sata and King ColdDrum, his voice actors Daisuke Gori and Bob Carter, and Carter's voicing of Bojack and Syn ShenronPiano, his voice actors Masato Hirano and Sonny Strait and their connections to Man Wolf, Mummy-kun, Bardock, General Blue, and KrillinThe Mazoku race and breaking down the word and how mazoku differ from yokai or oniWhy Piccolo's children are not mere Namekian clonesand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 105, 106 and 107, "Here Comes Yajirobe," "Terrible Tambourine," and "Tien's Atonement." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and introduce a new character, Yajirobe.

    In this episode:

    Jelli digs Bekinney out of the cold, cold groundWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Yajirobe's design inspirations, coming from the Akira Kurosawa film Yojimbo and the actor Daisuke KatoA note about a first when it comes to a fight within Dragon Ball, between Yajirobe and CymbalYajirobe's swordsman skillsWhat Yajirobe means in Japanese both as a toy (Circus Sam) and in breaking down the characters that make up the nameYajirobe's status as a Ronin and inspiration from the real life historical figure Musashi MiyamotoHow Kurosawa redefined the narrative around Roninand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 102, 103 and 104, "Enter King Piccolo," "Tambourine Attacks!" and "Mark of the Demon." We leave the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi behind, and delve into the Demon King Piccolo Saga, starting out with the idea of the Evil Containment Wave, or the Mafuba.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney collect themselves after a harsh battleWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Some notes on the episodes about translations with Master Mutaito and Master Roshi, timeline items with Master Shen (Crane Hermit) and Chiaotzu, canon issues regarding Piccolo's Namekian heritage, and some censorship notesWe talk about Master Mutaito and the origin of his nameLooking at Mutaito's giMafuba, and breaking down the word and its translation as Evil Containment WaveHow Daoists, Buddhists, and Shintoists inspired the MafubaThe origins of sealing demons or foes in general for centuries, with a few examples from Journey to the West (Laozi sealing Sun Wukong within the heavenly crucible and Buddha trapping him under a mountain)The Japanese art of onmyodoHow runes become jewelry in JapanToriyama's playful nature in having Piccolo sealed within the denshi-ja (electric rice cooker)A look ahead at the arc and our initial impressionsand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney have no time to continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime Dragon Ball.

    In this episode:

    The climactic battle!

    Join us and find out if we will ever continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney take a break from format and Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by pivoting and talking about the life and personality and career of one of the most influential creative minds behind Dragon Ball: Akira Toriyama's first editor Kazuhiko Torishima.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney are fired upon!We have already discussed the life and career of Akira Toriyama, Daisuke Nishio, Toshiki Inoue, Takao Koyama, Chiaki Imada, and (one of the men who inspired the creation of Goku himself) Jackie Chan...let's talk about one of the key men when it came to the birth of Dragon Ball itself: Kazuhiko Torishima, Toriyama's first editor, the man who pushed and pulled Toriyama all the way from up-and-comer to one of the most successful manga ka of all time, and one of the most important men in the history of Shueisha and Shogakukan.Torishima's birth and childhood in Niigata prefectureHis early career, in which he wanted to be an editor for PlayboyHow he wound up working for Weekly Shonen JumpHis initial opinion that manga was a lower form of entertainmentHis first job working on Doberman Deka, created by Buronson, who would go on to create Fist of the North StarTorishima's role in pushing Akira Toriyama to make Arale the main character of Dr. SlumpHow Torishima's occasionally harsh style led to the creation of the antagonist of Dr. Slump, Dr. MashiritoShueisha's desire for a hit to follow up Dr. Slump when it endedHow Torishima kept pushing Toriyama to make Dragon Ball better when popularity initially slumped and again and again in order to make it more and more popularHow Torishima helped make sure the Dragon Ball anime was more faithful to the manga than most anime at the timeTorishima's general philosophy behind storytelling and his preferred reading, including philosophy (like Nietzche and Confucius) Torishima's work with Nintendo to create a fusion of manga and video games, in Famicon SHinkenOther works Torishima helped launch including Yu-Gi-Oh, One Piece, Naruto, Dragon Quest, Bleach, Death Note, Gantz II, and PokemonHis rise to being the editor-in-chief of Shueisha and ultimately director of Shogakukan-Shueisha ProductionsCreatives who have been inspired by Torishima, including the minds behind Tottemo! Luckyman, Momotaro Dentetsu, Yudetamago, and KinnikumanWhy Torishima even became an editor in the first placeSome of Torishima's activism as a face of the manga industry as a wholeand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episode 101, "The Fallen" and then jumping into comparing the Dragon Ball anime to the Dragon Ball manga. We continue discussing the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi, and delve into the topic of Tien and his third eye.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney are on their way to a new planet.We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments The cliffhanger ending involving Krillin and how shocking it isThe physics of the end of the battleWhether Tien or Goku is technically the stronger one and whether latent ability and power level (ugh) determine a battle's outcomeComparing the manga to the anime, as we do when we wrap up an arcand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 96, 97 ,98, 99 and 100, "Tail's Tale," "Final Match: Goku vs. Tien," "Victory's Edge," "Tien's Insurrection," and "The Spirit Cannon." We continue discussing the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi, and delve into the topic of Tien and his third eye.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney split up. That will end well.We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Some notes on Toriyama's claims of making it all up as he goes alongParallels in the fighting to Daoist concepts about levels of refinement and controlBreaking down the Taiyo Ken, or Solar Flare, and its relationship to ying and yang energyWhere the volley ball attack came from, and a brief note about shojo manga being essentially created by the manga Attack No. 1Breaking down the Shiyo-ken or Four Supernatural Fists TechniqueHow Shiyo-ken ties Tien to Hindu deities such as GaneshBreaking down Tien, Tien Shinhan, Tenshinhan, Ten, and which is the "correct" pronunciationTien's ties to the Qing DynastyTien's all-important tenme, or third-eye and its metaphysical importanceHow a tenme is inspired by humanity's pineal glandA brief note on the movie From Beyond, which features the pineal gland as a plot pointHow Daoists believe it is possible to utilize your pineal gland and open a third eyeA note about Tien and his retroactive explanation of being an alien from the Mistume-jin (three-eyed people)Toriyama's possible inspiration from Osamu Tezuka's manga, The Three-Eyed One, and Journey to the West, and the character ErlangshenComparisons between Erlangshen and Tien Shinhan including uses of a third eye, fighting a monkey child, being able to defeat Sun Wukong (Goku), and moreand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by breaking down episodes 91, 92, 93, 94, and 95, "Counting Controversy," "Goku Enters the Ring," Tien Shinhan vs. Jackie Chun," "Stepping Down," and "Goku vs. Krillin" We continue discussing the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi, and delve into the topic of zombies (kind of) in Dragon Ball.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney are faced with a veritable ocean of molten rockWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Some notes on Panputto and the less important matches that happen hereinWe begin discussing Chiaotzu with how his name is derivedBreaking down language to explain who and what Chiaotzu isThe topic of zhiren in Japanese culture and how Toriyama may have been inspired by the Bruce Lee film, Fist of Fury and the Sammo Hung film The Dead and the DeadlyThe concept of jiangshi in Chinese and Japanese (and Daoist) cultureHow jiangshi are akin to Western zombiesHow jiangshi relate to the concepts of shishen and yuanshen as well as fengshuiToriyama's possible inspiration points for bringing a jiangshi into Dragon Ball, including the Sammo Hung films Ghost Beats Ghost and Mr. Jiangshi, and a 1985 film known as Kung Fu Wonder ChildHow Chiaotzu is also inspired by Prince Nezha, whom we had previously covered in our Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle commentary and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise.

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  • Welcome to Final Forum's Dragon Ball-oween Spooktacular!In this special Jelli-only mini-sode we take a complete break from format, and from breaking down Akira Toriyama's manga and anime smash success to continue our October/Halloween Festivities and on this episode, it's all about FEAR, because it's almost Halloween and there's nothing like a good scare to get you ready for the season.So, who will make Jelli's Top Ten Scariest Dragon Ball Moments? The pool to choose from is ENORMOUS:Vegeta in his early years had many momentsBulma can be fearsome when she gets madOolong used to try to scare villagers Master Roshi's perversions would scare most women in the MeToo eraEmperor Pilaf...uh probably notGiran is a literal monsterEighter (Android 8, 8-chan) evokes Frankenstein and his monsterTao Paipai's villainy knows no endMister Popo could strike fear into the hearts of anyone insisting that Dragon Ball is culturally sensitiveFortune Teller Baba communicates with ghostsDemon King Piccolo is a literal demon (kind of...at least until we learn what Namek is)Nappa creates seed people (saibamen) and uses them to murder our heroesFrieza is the ruthless emperor of the galaxy and his henchmen Zarbon, Dodoria, and the Ginyu Force are no slouches in the nasty department eitherChi-chiAndroid 19, Android 20, Dr. Gero, Android 17, Android 18, Android 16 - Will any of the artificial humans make the cut?King Cold is Frieza's father and perhaps even more ruthlessWhat about any of the movie villains? Cooler, Turles, Lord Slug, Super Android 13, Garlic Jr, Janemba, Bojack, or the like? Cell, Perfect Cell, Semi-Perfect Cell...they eat people! Majin Buu, Fat Buu, Evil Buu, Kid Buu, Buuhan - The shapeshifting monster could make anyone shudder in fearDabura is the king of the demon worldBabidi and his father Bibidi are evil wizardsBeerus is a literal destroyer god who almost blows up the Earth because he can't get pudding Mr Satan, probably not, but he has SATAN in his name...Jiren's quest for absolute power and emotionless focus may take one abackGoku Black, or Zamasu - bodysnatching Goku and murdering your best friends is definitely a scary thoughtHit is a trained assassin Caulifla goes BerserkSpeaking of Berserk, Broly's power can be scaryMany antagonists have scary moments Bergamo, Frost, Magetta, Botamo, Top, Dyspo, Cell Max, Moro, Granolah, Gas, Elec........and more...?

    Jelli threw all these in a pile and picked out just TEN of his favorites. Who will they be?

    Stay tuned to find out!

  • Welcome to Final Forum's Dragon Ball-oween Spooktacular!

    In this episode, Jelli and Bekinney are joined by Trevor Snyder of the Failure to Franchise Podcast as well as Days of Future Podcast Examining the X-Men for a fun break from format and into the world of kung fufilms. It's part of our October/Halloween Festivities where we're taking a break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon and delving into times our franchise's creators have "put on a costume" and worked on other shows and movies. In this case, it's Akira Toriyama's favorite movie of all-time and the film that helped create Dragon Ball (we've told the story about Toriyama's wife helping he and Kazuhiko Torishima coming up with the idea...and we tell it again here): Drunken Master, starring Jackie Chan.

    In this episode:

    We get right into syncing because it's a longer movie and commentary track.Stats on the movie including release date (pre-dating Dr. Slump and even Toriyama's first official publishing credit with Wonder Island), box office and key personnelDragon Ball connections as it being Toriyama's favorite movie, the connections to Jackie Chun, Drunken boxing fighting style, and more including some surprise Master Crane similarities and Master Roshi inspiration pointsAn introduction to the studio behind the film, Season Film Corporation, founded by Ng See-Yuen as he left Shaw Brothers to create this competitor and build a third studio behind Golden Harvest and Shaw BrothersA brief BRIEF history of Brucesploitation where actors who had a passing resemblance to Bruce Lee were passed off as him appearing in a posthumous featureConnections to Zu: Warriors from the Magic MountainConnections to Jean Claude Van Damme, Michelle Yeoh, and Cynthia RothrockA dive into the life and career of Jackie Chan, from his beginnings in the Peking opera, to his early film roles, on through his breakout to stardom in Asia, his run-in with the Triad, his attempts to gain fame in Hollywood (finally captured when Rumble in the Bronx and Rush Hour broke through in a major way), and even his later career and current personaA dive into the life and career of the film's director Yuen Woo-ping, having worked with Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Chow Yun-Fat and more, from his beginning working with his father on to his own Hollywood success working on the Matrix trilogy of films as well as Kill Bill, Kung Fu Hustle and later work with War Kong-WaiHow Woo-ping worked on the Once Upon a Time in China series, helped launch the career of Donnie Yen (Star Wars: Rogue One and John Wick Chapter 4)The real-life cultural inspiration for this movie, an a discussion of Wong Fei-hun, a well-known Chinese folk hero and real-life master of martial arts, who worked with the Ten Tigers of Canton to create a style still taught in Chinese martial arts schools todayThe importance of Wong Fei-hun to China and Chinese film with over 100 films featuring the character and having been played by actors such as Gordon Liu, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, Sammo Hung, Eddie Peng, and Vincent ZhaoAn introduction to the Beggar So character, So Chuan, and his status as one of the Ten Tigers of CantonHow Yuen Siu-tien became known as THE most famous person to play Beggar So, and is Yuen Woo-ping's fatherA brief history of Drunken Master's home video releasesA discussion of the film's many imitators and homages, including those found in Naruto, the works of Edgar Wright, and Mortal Kombat ...and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

    Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise....or in this case, the Drunken Master Franchise....for our special Dragon Ball-o-Ween event!

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  • Welcome to Final Forum's Dragon Ball-oween Spooktacular!In this special Bekinney-only mini-sode we take a complete break from format, and from breaking down Akira Toriyama's manga and anime smash success to continue our October/Halloween Festivities and on this episode, it's all about FEAR, because it's almost Halloween and there's nothing like a good scare to get you ready for the season.So, who will make Bekinney's Top Ten Scariest Dragon Ball Moments? The pool to choose from is ENORMOUS:Vegeta in his early years had many momentsBulma can be fearsome when she gets madOolong used to try to scare villagers Master Roshi's perversions would scare most women in the MeToo eraEmperor Pilaf...uh probably notGiran is a literal monsterEighter (Android 8, 8-chan) evokes Frankenstein and his monsterTao Paipai's villainy knows no endMister Popo could strike fear into the hearts of anyone insisting that Dragon Ball is culturally sensitiveFortune Teller Baba communicates with ghostsDemon King Piccolo is a literal demon (kind of...at least until we learn what Namek is)Nappa creates seed people (saibamen) and uses them to murder our heroesFrieza is the ruthless emperor of the galaxy and his henchmen Zarbon, Dodoria, and the Ginyu Force are no slouches in the nasty department eitherChi-chiAndroid 19, Android 20, Dr. Gero, Android 17, Android 18, Android 16 - Will any of the artificial humans make the cut?King Cold is Frieza's father and perhaps even more ruthlessWhat about any of the movie villains? Cooler, Turles, Lord Slug, Super Android 13, Garlic Jr, Janemba, Bojack, or the like? Cell, Perfect Cell, Semi-Perfect Cell...they eat people! Majin Buu, Fat Buu, Evil Buu, Kid Buu, Buuhan - The shapeshifting monster could make anyone shudder in fearDabura is the king of the demon worldBabidi and his father Bibidi are evil wizardsBeerus is a literal destroyer god who almost blows up the Earth because he can't get pudding Mr Satan, probably not, but he has SATAN in his name...Jiren's quest for absolute power and emotionless focus may take one abackGoku Black, or Zamasu - bodysnatching Goku and murdering your best friends is definitely a scary thoughtHit is a trained assassin Caulifla goes BerserkSpeaking of Berserk, Broly's power can be scaryMany antagonists have scary moments Bergamo, Frost, Magetta, Botamo, Top, Dyspo, Cell Max, Moro, Granolah, Gas, Elec........and more...?

    Bekinney threw all these in a pile and picked out just TEN of his favorites. Who will they be?

    And will Bekinney get himself into more trouble than he bargained for...? Stay tuned to find out!

  • Welcome to Final Forum's Dragon Ball-oween Spooktacular!

    In this episode, Jelli and Bekinney break down the Halo franchise, with specific focus on three pieces: the short film Halo Landfall, the animated anthology Halo Legends, and the new Paramount+ streaming show, Halo. It's part of our October/Halloween Festivities where we're taking a break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon and delving into times our franchise's creators have "put on a costume" and worked on other shows and movies. In this case, it's Daisuke Nishio, director of a segment on Halo Legends (Odd One Out) and Dragon Ball.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney say hello to HalloweenWe discuss our introductions through Halo, whether that be playing Halo 2 in college, or just gaming in general, and if we've experience other Halo media outside the games prior to this episode.Breaking down the origins of Halo from creative studio Bungie with Halo: Combat Evolved and through Halo InfiniteDiscussion of the lore of Halo, discussing the Covenant, the Flood, Forerunners, humanity's place in the universe, Halo's importance in the franchise, and who the Master Chief is.We talk about Daisuke Nishio, and give a biography, from his birth in Miyoshi City in Hiroshima in 1959 to current day, covering his entry into Toei, working with directors who also worked on Sailor Moon, Digimon, and Dr. Slump.Discussing Nishio's strengths as a director and looking at some interviews he gave talking about how he approaches production, as well as his work on Gegege no KitaroIntroduction some of the mythology in order to contextualize the franchise for listeners including a history of the Forerunners, what the Halo installations are, what the Ark is and its function, and breaking down the races of the CovenantTalking about how the Prophets, Drones, Grunts, Jackals, Hunters, Elites and Brutes all work together (or don't) to begin what they call the Great JourneyThe role of a special Elite known as the ArbiterWho the Master Chief isAn introduction to the AI CortanaA discussion of Neill Blomkamp's short film Halo Landfall with special assistance from Weta Workshop.A discussion of Halo Legends, first discussing its role in the Halo franchise as Microsoft's first attempt to expand the franchise beyond the confines of the Xbox under the newly created 343 Industries banner when Microsoft acquired the IP from BungieTalking through each entry in the anthologyOrigins, by Studio 4C directed by Hideki Futamura (Akira, Gundam, Vampire Hunter D, The Animatrix)The Duel, from Production IG and directed by Hiroshi Yamazaki (Ghost in the Shell)Homecoming from Bee Train directed by Koji Sawai (Parasyte, Ranma 1/2)Odd One Out from Toei and directed by Daisuke NishioPrototype from Bones (Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist, My Hero Academia) and directed by Tomoki Kyoda (Rebuild of Evangelion, Eureka Seven)The Babysitter from Studio 4C and directed by Toshiyuki Kanno (Dragon Ball)The Package from Casio Entertainment and directed by Shinji Aramaki (Ultraman)Discussing the Halo series on Paramount+ with showrunners Kyle Killen and Steven Kane, who worked on The Beaver, Netflix's Death Note, The Closer, Alias, and Curb Your Enthusiasm as well as Amazon's Jack Ryan showSome of the creation history behind the series including originally thinking it would be helmed by Rupert Wyatt and Steven Spielberg ...and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by breaking down episodes 87, 88, 89, and 90, "Yamcha vs. Tien," "Yamcha's Big Break," "Full-Moon Vengeance," and "The Dodan Wave." We continue discussing the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi, and delve into the topic of flight in Dragon Ball.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney try to chart their courseWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments Some notes on the techniques Tien uses during his battle against YamchaRevealing how Jackie Chun is able to hypnotize Man Wolf using a method similar to that employed by General BlueDefining buku jutsu and how it is the name for the cloud dancing flight technique employed in Dragon BallUnveiling how xianren (senin) became associated with the ability to fly, along with red crowned cranes, thus deepening the connection for the Crane School and Master Shen's Crane Hermit abilitiesTalking about lingzhi mushrooms and their ability to make you believe you can flyHow flight as buku-jutsu is different from Puar's ability to flyThen we discuss how Dragon Ball flight may be similar to or different from that employed by Superman or Peter Pan, we get off on a tangent about Mr. Satan, and we discuss whether we would want to be able to flyand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

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  • Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by breaking down episodes 83, 84, 85 and 86, "Which Way to Papaya Island?" "Rivals and Arrivals," "Preliminary Peril," and "Then there Were Eight." We begin discussing the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi, and delve into the Crane Hermit, or Master Shen.

    In this episode:

    Jelli and Bekinney prepare to leave KemaniWe recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments How Toriyama became among the first manga ka to incorporate a time skip into a Shonen Jump mangaThe possible origins of Konkichi, the green foxJelli throws out some movie recommendations including Battle Royale, Kwaidan, and Godzilla's RevengeHow Dragon Ball continues to borrow from Journey to the WestA discussion of durian and papaya, two of the most controversial fruits (if such a thing can be called controversial)A brief biography of Andre the GiantSome things to be on the lookout for as the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi ramps upAnd then we delve into the Crane Hermit, his design inspirations from Hideyo Amamoto and Christopher Lee as Fu Manchu, and why Toriyama chose a craneWe wrap up by saying some predictive thoughts about the forthcoming arcand more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual

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