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Connor and Dylan are TALKING. TWINS. TALKING. In the words of Carrie Pipperidge from Carousel, “did ya like it? Did ya?” Well, we sure hope ya will! Recorded before Tammy Faye’s gone-too-soon closing announcement, the twins dive into theatre news of the moment. Elf’s glowing reviews, Paul Mescal’s Streetcar going to BAM, whether Maybe Happy Ending’s critical/audience response will catch up to ticket buyers, and the Scherzy Page Six Deepfake Gate. But that’s not all, y’all. The demise of Twitter/X, the rise of RHOSLC and RHOP, and the drama of today, tomorrow, and yesterday are on the boards. Finally, Dylan and Connor discuss the Wicked film (including its press tour) before Dylan has his first viewing. Let us be glad and let us be grateful. PERIOD. By the way, who’s the most famous out gay man in the world? Tune in to find out all of that and more.
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Ben Ahlers (The Gilded Age, Tender Napalm). The wait is over. The time? Is now. Is your alarm going off? It should be, because everyone’s favorite Clock Twink is on the pod! Ben Ahlers joins the twins ahead of his New York off-Broadway debut in Tender Napalm. Learn about the origins of this play by Philip Ridley, and what it’s like co-starring with Victoria Pedretti (Netflix’s You and The Haunting of Hill House). Ben takes us back to Iowa to discuss his theatrical roots, as well as Gavin Creel’s impact on him ahead of pursuing a life in the arts. We of course dig deep into The Gilded Age. Ben teases what’s in store for footman Jack Trotter in season 3, and reflects on “growing up” with Louisa Jacobson on television. Juicy behind-the-scenes tidbits galore, y’all. Next up, Ben stars as John Wilkes Booth in a new play by Mad Men’s Matthew Weiner. Other topics include Dogfight starring River Phoenix, Ragtime at NYCC, Maggie Rogers’ music, Joshua Henry’s onstage tears, and much, much more. Get ready to be obsessed (if you already aren’t).
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Ally Bonino (Suffs the Musical). With hot cocoa in hand and fall vibes in the air, we’re gonna keep marching, y’all! Thank goodness we’ve got Suffs’ very own Ally Bonino here to do it with us. But first (Julie Chen-Moonves voice), we’re talking about the new Real Housewives of New York. Do we trust them, like them, or believe them? Speaking of binge watching some TV, we find Ally’s during her yearly watch of Six Feet Under. We dive right in, as Ally tells the gorgeous story of discovering her love for the arts. Or should we say… being DISCOVERED by her elementary school teacher. It’s gaggy. Ally shares a few of her favorite professional highlights since then, including Myths and Hymns and working with Adam Guettel. Don’t worry, we go all in on Shaina Taub’s Suffs. How did Ally get involved and find Lucy Burns, the role she continues to grow and love eight times a week? “Lucy’s Song” is IT, divas. Other highlights include Connor gushing over Kelsea Ballerini, Dylan raving over Melissa McCarthy in Only Murders in the Building, and Ally’s spaghetti squash tirade. Get ready for Ally’s solo show “Flight” at Joe’s Pub this January. You won’t want to miss it, or Suffs, playing now through January 5.
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Caroline Bowman (Sunset Boulevard, Frozen the Musical). With one look and with one listen, you will certainly be OBSESSED with this week’s guest. Caroline, the queen herself, is clad in a green beanie, seated beside her darling doggie Kodak, and ready to mention it ALL with the twins. She spills on standing by for Nicole Scherzinger and Mandy Gonzalez in this season’s thrilling revival of Sunset Boulevard on Broadway. At the time of release, Connor and Caroline will have attended a screening of the film version of Wicked (Part 1 obvi), just in time for the musical’s 21st anniversary! Caroline divulges on her own Green Girl experience, climbing the challenging yet rewarding mountaintop of playing Elphaba. Caroline is also known for her incredible run as Queen Elsa in Disney’s Frozen musical. Over five years and over a thousand performances provide for some incredible stories and lessons for her to share. Stick around for tidbits about Caroline’s husband Austin Colby in The Great Gatsby, seeing her theatre sister Kara Lindsay in Once Upon a Mattress, a potential album with Ben Rauhala, and an absolutely gag worthy dose of DRAMA unlike anything you’ve ever heard - Caroline reveals that she’s been cast as Karen in SMASH on Broadway!
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Connor and Dylan are coming at you again with an all-new TWIN TALK! The fellas give you a little mix of all things theatre, pop culture, love, and life in this episode. Listen in for some discourse surrounding Drag Race Global All Stars and UK6, We Live in Time starring Andrew Garfield and Florence Pugh, and everything under the sun. Connor and Dylan take another moment to reflect on the passing of the extraordinary Gavin Creel, as well as the shocking loss of Liam Payne, which instantly inspires some One Direction reflections in this episode. Then, it’s Broadway recap time! The twins took in Oh, Mary!, Sunset Boulevard, Drag the Musical, Romeo + Juliet, The Hills of California, Our Town, and Once Upon a Mattress. They’re some gagging over Shakespeare’s legendary lines in R&J, as well as raves about the stars of this revival: Kit Connor and Rachel Zegler. They gag over friends of the pod James Scully, Tom Francis, Nick Adams, Jan Sport, and more in this jam-packed romp of an episode. Don’t forget to VOTE, and early vote if ya nasty.
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We’re remembering our friend of the pod and hero Gavin Creel, who passed away on September 30, 2024. Gavin meant the world to the Broadway community and beyond. We’re re-releasing this special episode from two years ago to honor his memory, and share Gavin’s stories, wisdom, and warmth with the world one last time.
Read below about our conversation, originally released October 19, 2022. We love and miss you, Gavin.
”Connor and Dylan are joined by Tony Award winner Gavin Creel (Into the Woods, Hello, Dolly!). Ah… that’s history. A dream come true, even. Gagged. Listen in as the boys discuss Jay Armstrong Johnson’s I Put A Spell On You: Alive, Gavin having the time of his life in Into the Woods on Broadway, the impact of BCEFA, working with the collaborator of his dreams: Sara Bareilles, Gavin’s original work: Walk on Through, first kisses, coming out stories, Gavin’s hair journeys, a 20 year look-back on Thoroughly Modern Millie, the joy of the revival of Hair, being a London Boy, living in your truth, creating honest art, working with Sutton Foster, winning a Tony Award for Hello, Dolly!, and MORE. Go see Gavin in I Put a Spell on You: Alive at Sony Hall on October 23 and in Into the Woods through January 8th. We. Love. GAVIN.” -
Connor and Dylan are joined by James Scully (Oh, Mary!, Fire Island). Welcome to a brand new episode of DRAMA. The twins and James become fast friends, some might even say sisters, as James tunes in from his dressing room at the Lyceum Theatre. Basking in bisexual lighting, this Broadway star spills on his role as Mary’s Teacher in Oh, Mary! James gushes over the brilliance of Cole Escola, his character’s pants giving Fiyero's a run for its money, and the stars that have taken in this hysterical romp, including RuPaul, Julia Murney, and Rita Moreno. But first, it truly all began with James’ star turn as a Porcupine in a Christmas pageant. He takes us through his iconic list of Ring of Keys moments, ranging from cast albums to Emma Thompson to Stanley Tucci and beyond. James is a sweet and humble boy who gives flowers throughout, especially to his brilliant partner Julio Torres. We cover his time filming “You” with Penn Badgley, Fire Island with his Oh, Mary! co-star Conrad Ricamora, and the Broadway rumor mill. In this episode, the boys pay special tribute to their hero, Gavin Creel, reflecting on his beautiful impact on them and the world. We had such a blast kiki-ing and laughing with James when the three of us really needed it, and maybe you will too. Go see him shine in Oh, Mary!
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Helen J Shen (Maybe Happy Ending, The Lonely Few). The star of this season’s newest original Broadway musical, Maybe Happy Ending, kicks off spooky season with your favorite twins. On a cozy fall night after Helen’s rehearsals, they hear all about the innovative show. Does co-starring with Darren Criss mean he spills on-set secrets from Glee and American Crime Story? Find out all of that PLUS the origins of the musical, working with Michael Arden, and thoughts about moving into the haunted Belasco Theatre. Spooookyyyyyy. We also dive into Helen’s relationship with Andrew Barth Feldman (currently starring in Little Shop of Horrors). She spills on how they met and how their love blossomed during lockdown. They also share stories from the University of Michigan, performing in Teeth and The Lonely Few, and a little Rainbow Fish and Finding Nemo chatter. Stick around for recommendations on Andrew Rannells’ latest book, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and our excitement about Gypsy casting. Take a Tumblr into this episode and get stoked for Helen in Maybe Happy Ending!
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Connor and Dylan are joined by Taylor Trensch (Dear Evan Hansen, Hello, Dolly!). The twins are bouncing off the walls with excitement to have Taylor, a dream guest, on the podcast, having been in the audience for his professional debut performance in Spring Awakening over 15 years ago. Taylor Trensch is a star, y’all! He dishes on his extraordinary career, ranging from working alongside Gavin Creel in Hello, Dolly! to his recent two-hander experience with Cynthia Nixon. And just like that… we gagged! Connor dreamcasts Taylor in the titular role in Oh, Mary, while everyone eagerly anticipates Nicole Scherzinger’s arrival on Broadway. We go down memory lane to Tampa, where Taylor’s love of theatre began with (spoiler alert) Nancy’s tragic end in Oliver! These three gab about their favorite divas (Bernadette! Lillias! Dakin Matthews!), Taylor's onstage wigs, and working with dogs and rats in The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time. We gush over Cristin Milioti, dissect the Ryan Murphyverse, and giggle nonstop. Did Taylor (as Boq) perform a triple pirouette during “Dancing Through Life” in Wicked? That’s one mystery we’ll never know the answer to. Be sure to see this superstar in Safety Not Guaranteed at BAM through October 20.
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Connor and Dylan are joined by Tony Award nominee Ephraim Sykes (Our Town, Ain’t Too Proud: The Life and Times of the Temptations). It’s officially fall, y’all, and we’re chatting with Ephraim, one of the stars from the new Broadway production of Our Town, to kick off the season. But first: a conversation about NBC’s Smash, and its upcoming Broadway adaptation. Gagged! Ephraim reflects on his time dancing on Smash, his entire love of the arts beginning with his talent for dance, as well as his inspirations and influences. We cover all things Our Town - from the glorious cast, co-starring with Zoey Deutch, their trip to Peterborough, New Hampshire, and why the themes of the play are timeless. The twins get the scoop on Ephraim’s Hamilton experience from early workshops all the way to Broadway, the NYCC production of Pal Joey, and starring with Ariana Grande in Hairspray Live on NBC. Ephraim was an original Newsie, made his Broadway debut in The Little Mermaid, and was nominated for a Tony AND Grammy for Ain’t Too Proud. It wouldn’t be DRAMA without covering the culture, including Industry, The Perfect Couple, and the Kendrick Lamar/Drake beef. This chat is NOT to be missed.
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Tony Award-winner Jason Robert Brown (The Last Five Years, The Bridges of Madison County). We’re recording a pod about hope, OKAY?! Y’all… Jason. Robert. Brown. On DRAMA. The twins are absolutely gagged to be joined by one of their all-time favorite musical theatre songwriters. Jason is a busy, busy man. We’re joined by him ahead of his solo debut at Carnegie Hall while he’s also juggling an album drop of his 2019 Town Hall concert with Stephen Sondheim, the Parade National Tour casting process, The Last Five Years on BROADWAY’s pre-production, and writing three new projects. As if that wasn’t enough to discuss, the twins dive deep into JRB’s history to discuss his concerts at SubCulture, the early days of TL5Y in Chicago and off-Broadway, some untold stories about where and how he wrote Bridges alongside Marsha Norman, and TEA about “Being a Geek” from 13. Jason has worked with Ariana Grande, Cynthia Erivo, Shoshana Bean, Jonathan Bailey, Jeremy Jordan, Kristin Chenoweth, and more legends than we can even count. Stick around for stories about Parade, Songs For a New World, and Stephen Sondheim.
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Connor and Dylan are joined by Megan Kane (& Juliet). On a rainy fall New York day, Megan Kane joins the boys live from the Stephen Sondheim Theatre, where she’s currently between shows at & Juliet on Broadway. The twins are feeling nostalgia in the air, y’all. Who’s surprised? Megan catches them up on her five-show weekend schedule, which recently allowed for an open Wednesday night to see The Outsiders with her hubby, Ben. Speaking of, we revisit Megan’s love story with former DRAMA. podcast guest Ben Rappaport. From high school one-act competitions to flirty Facebook messages, we get the full tea. We also get the scoop on her experience with & Juliet, having just surpassed 750 performances. Whether she’s playing Lucy (one of the Players) or Nurse Angelique or Anne Hathaway, Megan has favorite moments and songs that keep her going. She also has a prime backstage snack, which you’re going to be LIVING for. We get into The Real Housewives of Orange County, the pivotal role of Molly in Annie, British Netflix thriller Fool Me Once, and what it takes to put on a solo cabaret show. We love Megan and you will too. And that’s the way it is!
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Connor and Dylan are chatting, so I guess that means it’s time for a TWIN TALK! In their first duo ep since announcing their partnership with iHeartRadio Broadway, the boys reintroduce themselves for any listeners new to the DRAMA. They have to dissect the Patti LuPone & Mia Farrow press tour ahead of The Roommate starting previews on Broadway, as well as celebrate Orfeh’s return to the Main Stem in Chicago. Connor & Dylan look ahead to the fall season in NYC, as they eagerly anticipate star turns from Nicole Scherzinger, Audra McDonald, and some sexy Shakespeare productions. Listen in for praise of the superstar standbys of Broadway (shoutout Caroline Bowman and Kara Lindsay), as well as Connor’s gag-worthy night at Cats: The Jellicle Ball. Buzz is building around Drag the Musical, Big Gay Jamboree, and of course Death Becomes Her. Did we mention we’re gay? Stick around for references to Outlander, Glee, Austin Butler, The Deliverance, and more y’all!
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Connor and Dylan are joined by Joy Woods (The Notebook, Little Shop of Horrors). As summer is heading toward its finale, the twins debate what should be crowned “Song of the Summer.” Chappell? Sabrina? Or maybe… “My Days.” The dazzling Broadway star Joy Woods joins in the conversation with fresh takes of her own, then walks us through her own days at The Notebook. Highlights include the summer camp experience of the show’s premiere in Chicago as well as hearing Ingrid Michaelson’s score for the first time. Joy recalls the recent performance in which the set lost power (and Connor was in attendance) during the climax of her eleven o’clock number. Y’all are lucky she was warm! We hear about the company-wide game of The Traitors as organized by friend of the pod Ryan Vasquez, and our hearts are warmed by the leadership of Maryann Plunkett and Dorian Harewood after opening night. Joy speaks of her early years watching So You Think You Can Dance, high school theatre, and AMDA year while working at Juniors. We chat about Joy’s time as Audrey in Little Shop opposite Matt Doyle and Jeremy Jordan, as well as being the first replacement to join the cast of Six on Broadway. We look ahead to Joy’s upcoming turn as Sarah in Ragtime at NYCC. And what’s next for Ms Woods? We can only imagine it’ll be extraordinary!
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Zane Phillips (Pretty Perfect Lives, Fire Island). The twins share a special announcement regarding the podcast: DRAMA is officially partnered with iHeartRadio Broadway. That’s a gag honey, say no more! But wait, there IS more! They’re here to celebrate with Zane Phillips, the star of off-Broadway’s Pretty Perfect Lives. He’s here to talk all about the new play by Gage Tarlton, bleaching his hair, working with his co-star Elizabeth Lail, and what it’s like being in a piece of art that captures internet/online culture at this moment in time. Self-defined Judy Kuhn stan Zane fills the boys in on his theatrical roots, college experience at Elon University, and his gigs out of school. Original workshops of The Outsiders? Hmm. They of course get into Fire Island, reflections on the film, and memories from both Zane and Connor’s trips to that magical place. Glamorous with Kim Catrall, NYT puzzle game Vertex, Industry on HBO, and soft masculinity fill this chat up with even more drama. You’re going to love Zane. Mwah!
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Douglas Lyons (Chicken & Biscuits, Parade). Just before the twins’ final reunion of the summer, they sat down with this acclaimed actor and playwright for a little DRAMA! Douglas just returned to the role of Tom Collins in Rent, performing with the San Diego Symphony. Naturally, we talk about the greatness of Jonathan Larson and memories from Douglas’ time on the Rent tour. They discuss all things Table 17, Douglas’ latest play starring Tony Award winner Kara Young. He opens up about his creative process, inspiration for writing this romantic comedy play, and his involvement with casting decisions. We cover Douglas’ youth as a PK, as well as what inspired him to become a writer in the first place, rooted in his backstage days at Beautiful: The Carole King Musical. We speak about the relatability of his plays, especially Chicken & Biscuits, which opened on Broadway after the quarantine. Douglas raves about Norm Lewis, Michael Urie, and a desire to work with luminaries such as Quinta Brunson and Keke Palmer. Connor plugs Other People's Dead Dads by Jacob Wasson, Dylan is Balz to the Walz, and Douglas shares what TV shows are part of his nightly ritual. Table 17 is currently running at MCC Theater through September 22nd - get your tickets today!
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Connor and Dylan are joined by Max Clayton (The Music Man, Moulin Rouge!). The moment has finally arrived: Max Clayton is on DRAMA. Thighs? Out. Sky? Out. Chest is also out, y’all! Hot in the midst of the Paris Olympics, the boys obsess over their favorite athletes and legendary moments before diving into all things Max. With over 9 Broadway credits under his (dance) belt and fresh off a starring turn in Crazy For You, Max regales the twins with stories galore. What was it like making his Broadway debut alongside Vanessa Hudgens? What did Hugh Jackman say in his text messages to Max during The Music Man? Has he set a wedding date with his fiance, Matt Doyle? Learn all of that and MORE, including Max’s love of Cleveland and his coming out experience in high school. Hello, Dolly! casting rumors, a technical show stop at The Notebook, and stories about Ariana Madix, Robyn Hurder, Baby V, Sutton Foster round out this amazing episode. It’s gay, it’s breezy, and it’s the episode you’ve been waiting for. Be sure to catch Max in Fowl Play at AMT Theater for 10 performances only from August 8-17.
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Connor and Dylan are joined by Emma Pittman (The Outsiders, Chicago). It’s Friday night at the drive-in, y’all! And by that we mean the boys are girling with one of the girls from that group of boys if you get what I’m saying? At intermission of our first viewing of The Outsiders, the twins were “gagged for Cherry” and now they’re gagged to have Emma Pittman on the pod. We go AWF on all things Love Island USA before diving in with the doll. Emma recaps the crazy summer she’s had – opening The Outsiders, awards season, winning the Tony Award for Best Musical, and more. Hear about her journey with booking and creating the role of Cherry – the BTS goes crazy. Some tea from earlier workshops of the show (Dallas and Cherry romance storyline?!?!), fan reactions, how the girls stay sane in a theatre full of men, and MORE. Emma discusses Back to the Future, her trifecta of musical theatre albums, and “The Search for Roxie.” We learn what it was really like to make her Broadway debut in the company of Chicago as Roxie Hart, and have a kiki for the ages. We’re gagged for Emma. And you will be too. J’adore.
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Sophie Carmen-Jones (Moulin Rouge, One Day on Netflix). Here to celebrate FIVE spectacular years of Moulin Rouge on Broadway, Sophie and the twins mention it all. Because they can can can… and do! They anticipate the return of Aaron Tveit and JoJo to the Al Hirschfeld, and chat with Sophie about keeping the show fresh after having originated Nini in the West End before coming to Broadway. They dish on wigs, the upcoming Sing-A-Long Performances, and all things Rouge. Sophie shares her journey from Wales to London to NYC, and her special connection to Catherine Zeta-Jones. She dishes on working with Taylor Swift and Idris Elba in the Cats film, dancing for Little Mix and Robbie Williams, and so much more. Nothing is off the table as we chat about Sophie’s sweet fiancé, UK accents, and acting alongside Leo Woodall and Ambika Mod in One Day. Other topics include Vice President Kamala Harris’ ascension to being the Presidential Democratic nominee, Gracie Abrams, the spooky podcast Otherworld, and Sophie’s Netflix recommendations. We adore Sophie Carmen-Jones!
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Dylan and Connor are joined by Grace McLean (Suffs, Natasha, Pierre and the Great Comet of 1812). On a sweet summer’s day, this icon called in from upstate to get into some DRAMA. Grace is known for delivering show-stopping, standout performances on stage, and she brings that same energy to the pod! We cover her remarkable career, starting with her current turn as President Woodrow Wilson in Suffs on Broadway. Brushes with Bill Clinton, HRC’s Tonys regalia, and the brilliance of Shaina Taub are all covered. Grace walks us through her multiple (!!!) times playing male characters, with hopes of Sweeney Todd alongside friend of the pod Max Jenkins. We reminisce on Grace’s iconic Broadway debut as Marya in Natasha, Pierre and the Great Comet of 1812, as well as returning to the Imperial Theatre in Bad Cinderella alongside her hunks and Carolee Carmello. Listen in for behind the scenes tales from Grace’s time in Sleep No More, the process of writing her musical In the Green, and hilarious tales from her country estate. We had the best time with Queen Grace McLean. You can see her slay in Suffs 8 times a week on Broadway, as well as in Penelope at Joe’s Pub this Monday, July 22!
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