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There is no Tom behind TOMS Shoes. It’s short for “Tomorrow’s.” There is a Blake, however. Blake Mycoskie founded the company in 2006 under the model that for every pair sold, a second pair would be donated to children in the developing world. TOMS took off, which meant years of constant work for Blake, traveling the world telling the TOMS story, and ultimately getting burned out and selling the company. Despite all the snowboarding he could now do, Blake found himself without purpose and lonely (all his friends worked at the company he just quit because those were the only people he had time to see.) His mental health crashed. He became depressed and anxious for the first time ever, considered suicide, and traveled the world trying every kind of treatment he could find. In the end, getting off meds that were wrong for him and good therapy helped him find the core wound that had been driving him all those years and set out to address it. Blake Mycoskie has a new podcast, No Magic Pill, about how people seek to solve their problems.
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Yes, the episode is about a rock singer but it’s also about any of us who grind away for the benefit of our work and the detriment of ourselves. The sudden cancellation of the band Sweet Pill’s extensive tour promoting their sophomore album Still There’s a Glow came as a shock to fans and the press. But it makes total sense given that singer Zayna Youssef had been working herself into the ground with writing, recording, designing merch and album covers and backstage passes, and everything else she could think of to make her band an even bigger success than what their first album brought. Some things she didn’t do: be kind to herself, give as much are to herself as she did the new album, or savor the success they had already had. The result was a mental and physical crisis point, a running out of gas on the part of the whole band that made them slam the emergency brake on the prospect of going out on a long tour and working even harder. In a very candid and often very funny interview, Zayna tells us how things got to this point, what she’s learned about the grind that can lead to better outcomes down the road, what her new album is ultimately about, and how the now-rescheduled tour will be different.
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This episode of the show is about America, ultimately. We’re joined by Cristina Jimínez, author of the memoir Dreaming of Home: How We Turn Fear into Pride, Power, and Real Change and MacArthur genius grant recipient for a discussion of mental health in the immigrant and undocumented immigrant communities in light of events like the ICE surge, 9/11, and January 6th. Cristina fled Ecuador with her family when she was 13, landed in Queens, and, despite a lot of complicating factors having to do with legal status, went to college and graduate school. She was one of the founders of the advocacy group United We Dream, was a key player in the passage of DACA, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, and was awarded a MacArthur genius grant. Cristina talks about the anxiety and depression that hangs heavily in vulnerable populations and also why she’s actually incredibly optimistic and hopeful, even in these seemingly bleak times, because of how citizens responded to ICE in Minnesota.
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I’m pretty sure you’ve been in this situation: you’re in a group setting of consequence and importance. Maybe it’s at work, maybe in school, but something is on the line. In that place are people different from you. They’re of a different race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, and you begin to worry about how you are being perceived. Are you an individual in everyone’s eyes or are they seeing you for the group you represent? Does your behavior match the stereotype that exists for people like you in the eyes of these other folks? Claude Steele, distinguished social psychologist, calls this churn in his new book, Churn: The Tension That Divides Us and How to Overcome It. He says it can have an effect on your mental health, particular in the areas of depression and anxiety. Steele explains the fascinating research and experiments that led him to explore the idea of churn and offers ideas on how to stop feeling it and establish yourself as an individual.
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The things that happened when you were young, especially the really painful things, can easily and often carry into adulthood. For documentarian, former high-powered executive, and actual Mister Rogers neighbor Benjamin Wagner, an adult life of terrible stress and substance use issues wasn’t really going to be solved until he understood more about the ripple effects of his parents’ divorce and a severe assault that occurred at an early age. To learn more about that connection and similar issues that other people face all the time, Benjamin teamed up with his brother Christopher to create Friends and Neighbors, a documentary now available on PBS, Apple TV, and Amazon Prime. In this conversation, we dig into the trauma, the effects, and how to figure out how you got to where you are and where you’re headed.
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You have to eat. We know this. But when depression is flaring, it’s really hard to even get to the kitchen, let alone make something tasty and good for you. Don’t worry. Our Depresh Meals episode has expert ideas for just that situation from Food & Wine’s Kat Kinsman and The Sporkful podcast host Dan Pashman. To hear the full episode, become a member of Maximum Fun for as little as $5 a month. You get access to all the bonus content by all Max Fun shows ever! maximumfun.org/join
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You have to call your friends once in a while and see how they’re doing, especially if they’re undergoing big changes and their city has been rocked with upheaval. Twin Cities-based actor and writer Bill Corbett will always be associated with Crow T. Robot, the wisecracking robotic commentator on bad films on Mystery Science Theater 3000. It’s a part he played for many years and a part he’ll be playing all over again as MST3K is in the process of a reuniting or sort of merger with Rifftrax, the comedy troupe he formed with Mike Nelson and Kevin Murphy. He and fellow Minnesotan/host John Moe share thoughts on the ICE surge and the heartening coming together of community that grew out of it.
ALSO! It’s the final week of the annual Max Fun Drive, where we offer you all manners of bonus content and thank you gifts for your support of our show. Check out our member-only episode with Neko Case and Gavin Rossdale! Pick up a snazzy keychain or beach bag! Visit maximumfun.org/join or, if you want a shortcut to a $5 a month level, maximumfun.org/joindepresh.
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Hi, everyone, John Moe here. “Can I read you what Sunny just posted on Facebook?” asked my wife, Jill. I figured it was something about Tom Petty or her dogs but it was, in fact, a very funny and skillful micro-essay on why she listens to Depresh Mode and why, after years of listening, she became a member. Her argument was one that I would never dare make but enjoyed: if you’re not paying, it’s theft. I passed her post around to Max Fun folks and they got excited. When creative people get excited, they BUILD stuff. Actor Helen Hong, co-host of Max Fun’s Go Fact Yourself, performed a dramatic reading of Sunny’s words in a beautiful/hilarious video by Max Fun’s Laura Swisher. So in this mini-sode, we have the audio of Helen’s reading and an interview with new celebrity Sunny Kase.
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It's MaxFunDrive. And here, for the first time, we give you an exclusive look (well, listen) at the craft of podcasting: presenting Casters on Casters.
In this episode, John Moe (Sleeping with Celebrities & Depresh Mode with John Moe) talks about his double life, as a person who speaks in a normal voice, and the host he becomes for Sleeping with Celebrities. And Brenda Snell (Secret Histories of Nerd Mysteries) tells us about what she's learned from her listeners, including what actor/basketball star Shaquille O'Neal is like in real life.
If this glamorous, in-depth journey into what makes your favorite hosts tick inspires you, support them by joining as a member at maximumfun.org/join.
Produced by Jesus Ambrosio for Maximum Fun.
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When our host, John Moe, started doing podcasts about mental health ten years ago, one of his first guests was his friend Andy Richter. Andy, who you know from various Conan shows and tons of other TV shows and movies, talked about having his depression pretty well managed at the time. Since then, his marriage ended in divorce and the Conan show on television ended as well. He returns to talk about the odd experience of dating after 27 years off the market, the joy of remarrying, and the unexpected, unironic, exhilaration of competing on Dancing with the Stars, where he became a fan favorite, lasting deep into the contest. He also talks about how his life has been a little different since that first appearance ten years ago as he became a vocal advocate for mental health awareness.
ALSO! It’s the final week of the annual Max Fun Drive, where we offer you all manner of bonus content and thank you gifts for your support of our show. Check out our member-only episode with Neko Case and Gavin Rossdale! Pick up a snazzy keychain or beach bag! Visit maximumfun.org/join or, if you want a shortcut to a $5 a month level, maximumfun.org/joindepresh.
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Help is available right away.
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We’re delighted to welcome the actor, writer, web celebrity (celwebrity?) Felicia Day back to the program as part of our ongoing effort to reach out to friends and just ask how they’re doing. You might know her from The Guild, the web series she created, or from Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Mystery Science Theater 3000. Felicia has a new graphic novel, Lost Daughter of Sparta, and says she always does a little better when she can break out of the Hollywood idea of how she should be used and steer toward the person she would rather be, making the things she wants to make. It’s a warm, friendly conversation with a delightful guest.
OH AND ALSO HEY: The annual Max Fun Drive has begun, which means you can hear extra special BONUS CONTENT like our all-new All-Star Sad Songs That Make You Feel Better, featuring Neko Case, Gavin Rossdale, and more. Plus delightful thank you gifts and the warm feeling of making shows like ours possible.
Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun.
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Help is available right away.
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK
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There is actual science that says listening to sad songs - about heartache, heartbreak, grief, worry, whatever it is - can make you feel better. The brain seeks that kind of stuff out and you feel less alone, more understood. It’s a paradox but there it is. We asked some friends of the show what worked for them and you’ll hear from Neko Case, Gavin Rossdale, Rhett Miller, Open Mike Eagle, Emma Swift, Jeremy Messersmith, Niko Stratis, Craig Jenkins, Ted Leo, and Josh Ritter. It all makes for a very moving playlist available exclusively to Max Fun members.
Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun.
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Help is available right away.
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK
Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741.
International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines
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When Jimmy Pardo joined us for a hilarious and revealing interview, he had just conducted a Never Not Funny anniversary show that exceeded nine hours in length. Not all that shocking if you’ve been listening to the show, which routinely exceeds two hours of jokes, interviews, and rapid-fire conversation. All those years of talking (and Jimmy talks fast) have meant a lot of self-reflection on a life that has had some ups and downs in terms of mental health. He tells us about the foundational jolt of his parents’ divorce when he was young, the development of depression and anxiety in the aftermath, and how a life in standup comedy made it pretty easy to fall into a substance use disorder. He also talks about the work he did to try to live up to the person he wanted to be.
OH AND ALSO HEY: The annual Max Fun Drive has begun, which means you can hear extra special BONUS CONTENT like our all-new All-Star Sad Songs That Make You Feel Better, featuring Neko Case, Gavin Rossdale, and more. Plus delightful thank you gifts and the warm feeling of making shows like ours possible.
Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun.
Check out our I’m Glad You’re Here and Depresh Mode merchandise at the brand new merch website MaxFunStore.com!
Hey, remember, you’re part of Depresh Mode and we want to hear what you want to hear about. What guests and issues would you like to have covered in a future episode? Write us at [email protected].
Depresh Mode is on BlueSky, Instagram, Substack, and you can join our Preshies Facebook group.
Help is available right away.
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 988 or 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-TALK
Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741.
International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines
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Covid hit everybody, either personally or as members of society, and our mental health was damaged. It was trauma and it largely hasn’t been processed. When Joshua Roman became the principal cellist at the prestigious Seattle Symphony at age 22, it wasn’t really a surprise. As he explains, he had been training since the age of 3, desperate to get better, intent on overtaking Yo-Yo Ma and Pablo Casals. He didn’t just run for fun, he targeted a sub-six minute mile. After Seattle, Joshua was a world traveling soloist with no fixed address and yet more striving. Then the pandemic hit and his covid became long covid, taking his energy and, often, his ability to even read a sentence much less sheet music. Joshua tells us about the life change that occurred as a result, his careful parceling out of his remaining energy, and the more focused and content he lives after the brick wall collision.
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International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines
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Today, I want to share an episode from a podcast I think you’ll enjoy called Proxy.
It’s hosted by Yowei Shaw, who you might know from the NPR show Invisibilia. After getting laid off in 2023, she found herself stuck with a question she couldn’t shake: why did she feel so ashamed… like it was her fault… even when she knew it wasn’t?
The question became the seed of her new show.
Proxy is built on a simple idea: no one is ever completely alone with their problem. Because somewhere out there is someone who’s lived something close enough to help you feel a little less stuck.
In today’s episode, Yowei talks with a pair of bandmates and best friends… who can’t figure out why they haven’t been able to finish their record for years. It’s a story about friendship, loyalty, and the quiet heartbreak of letting go of something that once held you together.
Follow Proxy here: https://www.proxypodcast.com/
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Covid was already rough for the very funny and personable Annabelle Gurwitch, as it was for everyone, and that was before her car broke down on an LA freeway just as she was getting a call with a terminal cancer diagnosis. Stage four. Annabelle has dealt with anxiety and depression for a long time and the cancer news certainly didn’t help, especially as Annabelle found strong connections between mental and physical health, culminating, perhaps, in Annabelle crab-walking down the sidewalk. It’s all detailed in her new memoir, The End of My Life Is Killing Me: The Unexpected Joys of a Cancer Slacker, in which she tells of going on medications that have worked for years, but which she knows will eventually stop working. And eventually, as with us all, she will die. For now, she’s alive and here to talk, enlighten, and share more than a few laughs.
Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of Maximum Fun.
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At age 24, Eric Zimmer was in rough shape. He was addicted to heroin, weighed maybe a hundred pounds, and was facing the prospect of a lengthy prison sentence. So he gave rehab another try and he had some success and started getting his life back together, diving into just about any book or teaching he could find that could help him get healthy and stay healthy. This led to conversations, the podcast The One You Feed, a career as a personal coach, and his new book, How a Little Becomes a Lot. Eric explains his philosophy of taking small actions toward better mental and physical health, concentrating on what can be achieved and repeated, and choosing actions that gradually move you toward where and who you want to be. He offers advice on how to determine those actions and how to stick with them. It’s not a long jump, it’s a series of small, manageable, and repeatable steps.
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International suicide hotline numbers available here: https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines
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We are proud to present a very special episode of In This Family as a bonus for Depresh Mode with John Moe listeners. In This Family is produced by John Moe in conjunction with Nexus Family Healing and it’s about the connection between family and mental health. It’s a fascinating and moving look at the Hmong culture, their relocation to the United States, and the generational trauma that has been activated by recent events involving ICE. It’s a story you haven’t heard told by a member of community you might not have heard much about.
Newspaper columnist and community business leader Ka Vang was born on a CIA base in Thailand 50 years ago. She remembers eating from the garbage when there was no food to be had, witnessing rape and murder, and fleeing with her family to the United States after the Vietnam War and the Secret War. Ka is Hmong-American, part of a large community of people who aided the American effort and were relocated, largely to Minnesota. The trauma of the war and displacement had severe mental health effects on Ka’s family, including depression, anxiety, and hyper-vigilance. Today, the Twin Cities region is seeing tremendous upheaval due to the ICE surge, which has seen thousands of people arrested, sent to detention facilities, and deported, even people who have a legal right to be in the United States. Ka says Hmong people who lived through the war in Asia are terrified and having flashbacks. Their children, having had trauma handed down, are rehearsing best practices for staying safe. And as for Ka, she doesn’t feel like an American amid the ICE presence and feels more a matter of when rather than if she’ll get taken.
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When Emily’s twin, Amelia, ended up in the hospital twice, she knew that stress wasn’t something to be dismissed as “all in your head”. First of all, the head is connected to the body (by the neck), so stress is a physical issue that you can feel and be hurt by in all sorts of ways. Too much stress, at work, at home, in life, and you can run up against a real burnout situation. And it can wreak havoc on you mental health and physical health. The Nagoski twins are the authors of Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle and Emily joins us to talk about how our stress response instincts aren’t that different than a zebra’s when faced with a lion. The difference? A zebra knows how to complete a stress cycle and return to normal, whereas we’re likely to hold on to work worries, relationship concerns, or other stresses around the clock, pursued by the lion constantly. Emily has advice on how to complete those cycles, get to a better place, and fight burnout. A big part of that is what she calls “bubbles of love”. Not a sex thing.
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Help is available right away.
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The patients in the therapy sessions in the new film GROUP: The Schopenhauer Effect are actors, but it’s not a scripted film. The actors were given characters and circumstances and then they improvised dialogue with each other and with the group leader, who is also acting. Kind of. Dr. Elliott Zeisel is one of the most important figures in group therapy in America since the 1970s. With all that knowledge and experience powering him along, he also improvised his dialogue, based on what he was being said. The result is a remarkably honest and moving portrayal of group therapy. We talk with Dr. Zeisel about the film and about how group therapy works, what to expect, who’s a good candidate for it, and which myths need to be dispelled.
Trailer: GROUP: The Schopenhauer Effect
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