Avsnitt
-
Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Peter Santenello.
Peter is an independent filmmaker and storyteller who goes deep into places most people only know through headlines. From the southern border and forgotten corners of America to communities shaped by poverty, culture, politics, and pressure, Peter captures the human terrain with a small camera, honest questions, and a willingness to listen.
In this episode, we get into cartel-run routes at the border, fentanyl, New Orleans, legacy media, the business of YouTube, and the stories most outlets miss.
We also discuss Peter’s upcoming book, YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS.
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.
Learn more about Peter: https://petersantenello.com/
Follow Peter on YouTube and Instagram:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3Vuq4Q1bKFtAiKYlwRv3oAhttps://www.instagram.com/petersantenello/
Order THE FOURTH OPTION: https://amzn.to/4erxqmy
Order YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS: https://amzn.to/3QsH8wW -
Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Derek Benner, CEO of OUR Rescue and a veteran of nearly three decades in federal law enforcement.
Derek served with Homeland Security Investigations, helped lead the creation of the DHS Center for Countering Human Trafficking, and now continues that mission through OUR Rescue’s work combating sex trafficking and child exploitation.
We get into the evolution of Homeland Security Investigations, the adaptability of modern cartels, drug smuggling, money laundering, human trafficking, child exploitation, and how technology has become a weapon predators use to target children. We also discuss the role of electronic storage detection dogs, survivor care, prevention, and why law enforcement cannot arrest its way out of this crisis.
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.
To learn more about OUR Rescue, visit https://ourrescue.org/
THE FOURTH OPTION :
https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/
Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS -
Saknas det avsnitt?
-
Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by my former Navy SEAL Teammate John Devine of Devine K9s and the Rescue 22 Foundation.
John brings decades of experience working with elite K9s, from the SEAL Teams to personal protection dogs and service dogs for veterans.
We discuss the selection and training of SEAL K9s, the bond between handler and dog, how these dogs operate in combat, and what breeds like the Belgian Malinois require of those who take on the responsibility.
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.
To learn more about Devine K9s, visit https://www.devinek9s.com/
To learn more about the Rescue 22 Foundation, visit https://www.rescue22foundation.org/
THE FOURTH OPTION :
https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/
Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS -
Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ben and Jessica Owen, founders of We Fight Monsters, an organization dedicated to confronting trafficking and addiction with a lawful, boots-on-the-ground response.
Ben and Jessica share their own battles with addiction, homelessness, and life inside trap houses in South Memphis, and how recovery led to restoration and a calling to go back for others.
We get into their mission to Rescue, Recover, and Restore, the reality of addiction as a tool of control, the connection between narcotics and exploitation, their work converting former dope houses into recovery spaces, their experience running safe houses during the Afghanistan evacuation, and why redemption often begins by helping others.
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.
HUXWRX Safety Co.: https://huxwrx.com/
Staccato 2011: https://staccato2011.com/
Bravo Company USA: https://bravocompanyusa.com
THE FOURTH OPTION :
https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/
Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS
To learn more about We Fight Monsters, visit https://wefightmonsters.org/ -
Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ed Calderon, a former Mexican counter-narcotics officer with firsthand experience fighting organized crime on the front lines.
We get into the evolution of Mexican cartels from smuggling organizations into paramilitary forces, the rise of CJNG, drones, corruption, tradecraft, operational security, and why the security challenges facing Mexico are inseparable from the future of the United States.
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company USA. -
Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Steve Murphy and Javier Peña — the real DEA agents behind Netflix’s Narcos.Straight from the agents who were there: working undercover in jeans and a polo with a target on their backs, Escobar’s self-built prison, treason charges, and the order that changed everything — “We’re not here to seize dope. We’re here to kill Pablo Escobar.”This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.
-
Today, Jack is joined by Taylor Kitsch who plays Ben Edwards in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video for the final installment of this Danger Close Dark Wolf podcast series.Jack and Taylor walk through the origin of Ben Edwards in The Terminal List, every episode of Dark Wolf, the moments that defined Ben’s character, and stories from behind the scenes covering what it took to bring Ben's depth and humanity to life on screen.They also get into the motorcycles, Ben's tattoos, the physical toll of the action sequences, Jack's cameos, the opening sequence and music, the significance of including Once an Eagle, and where the series may be headed.This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series.Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf: https://www.amazon.com/Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf-Season/dp/B0F7HFJ64C FOLLOW TAYLOR @taylorkitschhttps://www.instagram.com/taylorkitsch/
-
Get an early start on THE FOURTH OPTION. Listen to Prologue, Part 2, narrated by Ray Porter.The audiobook drops along with the hardcover and eBook on May 12. Pre-order today: https://bit.ly/TheFourthOptionAudioAudio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from THE FOURTH OPTION by Jack Carr and M.P. Woodward, read by Ray Porter. Copyright © 2026 by Tomahawk Creative, Inc. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc.
-
Get an early start on THE FOURTH OPTION. Listen to Prologue, Part 1, narrated by Ray Porter.The audiobook drops along with the hardcover and eBook on May 12. Pre-order today: https://bit.ly/TheFourthOptionAudioAudio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from THE FOURTH OPTION by Jack Carr and M.P. Woodward, read by Ray Porter. Copyright © 2026 by Tomahawk Creative, Inc. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc.
-
Today, Jack is joined by Dar Salim in Dar’s first ever podcast appearance! Dar plays Mohammed “Mo” Farooq in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video.
In this episode, Jack and Dar cover the physicality of the character, the moral grey zone he operates in, and the subtle nuance that makes his decisions resonate with audiences. They explore the relationships that define the story, the scale and authenticity behind the action sequences, and the foundation that grounds the world of Dark Wolf.
Dar also shares the remarkable life journey that shaped him as a person and an actor, and what's ahead in True Believer.
Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf/0MYH9XYR9SCGXB57LR8ES71GFL
FOLLOW DAR @darsalim1https://www.instagram.com/darsalim1/
This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series. -
Today, Jack is joined by Luke Hemsworth, who plays Jules Landry in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf.
In this episode, Luke and Jack discuss what it takes to portray a character who is likable but unsettling at the same time, Luke’s ability to bring Landry's dynamic with Ben, Tal, Eliza, and Raife to life, the tension beneath the surface and the fine line between charm and menace that defines the Jules Landry character.
They also cover Luke's first days on set with Taylor Kitsch, the difficult scenes with Tal and how those were handled with care, and the arc building toward Luke’s transformational moment as Landry in True Believer.
This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series.
Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf/0MYH9XYR9SCGXB57LR8ES71GFL
FOLLOW LUKE @hemsworthlukehttps://www.instagram.com/hemsworthluke/ -
Get an early start on The Fourth Option.
The incomparable Ray Porter – voice of THE TERMINAL LIST series and TARGETED series - is BACK, bringing his talents to the audiobook edition of THE FOURTH OPTION.
The audiobook drops along with the hardcover and eBook on May 12. Pre-order today: https://bit.ly/TheFourthOptionAudio
Audio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from THE FOURTH OPTION by Jack Carr and M.P. Woodward, read by Ray Porter. Copyright © 2026 by Tomahawk Creative, Inc. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc. -
Today, Jack is joined by Shiraz Tzarfati, who plays Tal Varon in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf.
In this episode, Shiraz and Jack talk about discovering Tal’s character from the audition to her first meeting with Ben and Raife to one of the most brutal fight scenes of the season. They discuss Shiraz’s first days on set, Tal’s place on the team, and the tension between her and Jules Landry.
Shiraz also reflects on Tal’s final scene and how the character has changed by the end of the season. -
Today, Jack is joined by Rona-Lee Shimon, who plays Eliza in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf.
In this episode, Rona-Lee and Jack talk about discovering Eliza’s character from the audition to the motorcycle and book market sequences, to some of her most pivotal moments in the series. They discuss the training behind the role, how Rona-Lee’s background as a ballet dancer shaped her approach to action, and the leadership and emotional depth Eliza brings to the team.
They also break down Eliza’s dynamic with Ben, her mentorship of Tal, standout scenes from the season, along with the betrayal, vulnerability, and loss that define her arc. Rona-Lee also reflects on her path into acting, her work on Fauda, and how becoming a mother deepened her connection to the character.
FOLLOW RONA-LEE @ronalee_shimonhttps://www.instagram.com/ronalee_shimon/ -
Today, Jack is joined by Tom Hopper who brings Raife Hastings to life in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf.
In this episode, Tom and Jack talk about the weight of bringing fan favorite character Raife Hastings to the screen. Tom shares how he found the role through test reads, chemistry reads with Taylor Kitsch and Chris Pratt, and a deep dive into the books that made him even more fired up to step into Raife’s world.
They reflect on favorite moments from Dark Wolf, including Raife’s first scenes, the evolving dynamic between Reece, Ben, and Raife, and the authenticity that came from training, conversations with SEAL advisors, and a cast and crew committed to getting it right. They also discuss the tone shift in Episode 2 as the series moves from the battlefield in the Middle East to the world of espionage in Europe, the emotional cost of Raife’s arc, and how Dark Wolf helps set the stage for what comes next in The Terminal List Season 2: True Believer.
Along the way, they touch on standout performances across the cast, lines and themes that carried through the season, and Tom’s experience joining a production that felt more like family.
FOLLOW TOM @tom.hopperhops
https://www.instagram.com/tom.hopperhops/ -
Today, Jack is joined by Robert Wisdom, who plays Jed Haverford in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf.
In this episode, Robert and Jack talk about Jed’s role in Dark Wolf, from Robert’s first impressions reading the scripts to the opening scene that helped define the character. They discuss what drew Robert to the role, why he wanted the performance to come from the gut, and how Jed can smile, charm, and recruit while still feeling like the most dangerous man in the room.
They also get into the twists behind the story, how the series leaves breadcrumbs for what is coming, and the tension between mentor, mastermind, and operator working in the shadows of the CIA. Along the way, they discuss the boat scene, the rooftop recruiting scene in Budapest, the final moments of the season, and the impact of filming in Washington, D.C., including in front of the CIA Memorial Wall.
Robert also reflects on the moral conflict of playing Jed and on how actors can elevate material beyond the page. He also shares his early path into acting, from college track and deferred law school to theater, NPR, and the career turns that set him on this road.
This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series.
Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf/0MYH9XYR9SCGXB57LR8ES71GFL -
Today, Jack is joined by Chris Pratt, who stars as James Reece in The Terminal List.
In this episode, Chris and Jack talk Dark Wolf, True Believer, and the moments shaping what comes next in The Terminal List universe. They reflect on favorite scenes from Dark Wolf, the scale and authenticity of the production, and how the series moves from the battlefield into the gray world of intelligence and global spycraft.
They also explore the differences between James Reece, Ben Edwards, and Raife Hastings, touching on loyalty, family, pain, discipline, and purpose. Along the way, they discuss Once an Eagle, on-set improvisation, filming in South Africa, the strength of an international cast, and the influences of The Punisher, Mack Bolan, Bond, and Zero Dark Thirty.
Chris shares what it was like stepping back into the role of James Reece, what drew him to the character in the first place, and where the story could go next.
This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series.
Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf:https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf/0MYH9XYR9SCGXB57LR8ES71GFL
FOLLOW CHRIS @prattprattpratthttps://www.instagram.com/prattprattpratt/ -
Today, Jack is joined by The Terminal List: Dark Wolf producers Taylor Kitsch, Jared Shaw, and David DiGilio.
Taylor stars as Ben Edwards, Jared Shaw plays Ernest “Boozer” Vickers, and David DiGilio serves as co-creator, showrunner, writer, and executive producer. Together, they break down how Dark Wolf made it to the screen, the delays that shaped the production, and what it took to bring this story to life.
In this conversation, they discuss the origin of the series, the first episodes, the psychology behind the characters, and the weight carried in key scenes. They also talk about the camaraderie on set and why this production felt different from most.
This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, the performances, and the creative process behind Ben Edwards’ descent into the gray.
Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf:https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf/0MYH9XYR9SCGXB57LR8ES71GFL
Howlers Ridge: Founded by Taylor Kitsch, Howlers Ridge is a nature-based healing center in Bozeman, Montana. The nonprofit supports healing, resilience, and personal growth through immersive retreats, educational programs, and grants to mission-aligned nonprofit partners. Learn more: https://www.howlersridge.org/
FOLLOW TAYLOR @taylorkitschhttps://www.instagram.com/taylorkitsch/?hl=en
FOLLOW DAVID @digiliofilmshttps://www.instagram.com/digiliofilms/?hl=en -
The Jack Carr Book Club December 2025 Selection is THE TIN MEN by Nelson DeMille and Alex DeMille.
In THE TIN MEN, New York Times bestselling author Alex DeMille joins his father, the legendary Nelson DeMille, to deliver the final Nelson DeMille novel—delivering a high-stakes, cutting-edge thriller that drops readers into the future of warfare—where the lines between soldier, machine, and judgment begin to blur.
At a top-secret Army facility deep in the Mojave Desert, Army CID Special Agents Scott Brodie and Maggie Taylor are sent to investigate the shocking murder of Major Roger Ames, the chief scientist behind experimental war games involving platoons of Army Rangers and fleets of lethal autonomous weapons. What begins as a single suspicious death quickly spirals into a deadly maze of hidden agendas, isolation-driven paranoia, and next-generation military technology operating without clear limits.
Cut off by desert heat, secrecy, and an increasingly unstable command structure, Brodie and Taylor must navigate a world where everyone is a suspect—and where AI, robotics, and human ambition collide in ways that may change warfare forever.
Alex DeMille is a novelist and filmmaker whose work has been recognized at festivals worldwide. His previous novels THE DESERTER and BLOOD LINES, cowritten with Nelson DeMille, were instant New York Times bestsellers. A graduate of Yale (BA) and UCLA (MFA Film Directing), he lives in Brooklyn with his family.
This episode explores the inspiration behind THE TIN MEN, the research into modern and emerging military technologies, the father-son collaboration that shaped the novel, and the moral dilemmas at the heart of a world where machines can kill—but can’t be held accountable.
FOLLOW ALEX
Instagram - @alexDeMille
Facebook - @alexdemilleauthor
X - @alexdemille
Website - https://alexdemille.com/
FOLLOW JACK
Instagram - @JackCarrUSA
X - @JackCarrUSA
Facebook - @JackCarr
YouTube - @JackCarrUSA
SPONSORS
CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/
Bravo Company Manufacturing - BCM Stock MOD3:
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-stock-mod-3-black/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA
THE SIGs of Jack Carr:
Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc
Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear -
In this episode, Jack sits down for a look back at 2025 — the books, conversations, milestones, and behind-the-scenes work that defined the last twelve months.
From the premiere of DARK WOLF and the launch of CRY HAVOC, to standout podcast guests, book club moments, this episode pulls back the curtain on a landmark year for the Jack Carr brand.
Jack also shares what’s coming in 2026, including:
Major updates in the Terminal List universe
A new novel in a new series
Upcoming Danger Close themes and guests
New brand partnerships and projects
Ongoing work in TV, film, and publishing
What listeners and readers can expect in the months ahead
A personal, candid wrap-up — a preview of a massive year to come — and a highlight from this last year’s podcasts.
FOLLOW JACK
Instagram: @JackCarrUSA
X: @JackCarrUSA
Facebook: @JackCarr
YouTube: @JackCarrUSA
SPONSORS
CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/
Bravo Company Manufacturing - https://bravocompanyusa.com/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA
THE SIGs of Jack Carr:
Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc
Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear - Visa fler
