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This year is the year that AI moves from the individual assistant to the collective and autonomous - from co-pilots to agent to agent integration. But what do we know of its collective impact and how does humanity fit in?
This week’s Easter Special, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Anders Indset, about his work (Ex Machina and the Singularity Paradox), capability of infinite progress, humane capitalism, where might the human find themselves in an AGI world and does the intersection of quantum and AI make the chance of us living in a simulation more likely…TLDR
01:34 Introduction of Anders Indset
03:50 Rob is confused about hackers starting to create saleable products
08:12 Conversation with Anders Indset
49:50 Who do we see as future leaders in our team?
59:15 Conference in Austria about values in Europe and the future of Europe
🐰 We're hopping away for Easter! We'll be back on May 1st, so don't egg-spect us until then! 🐣Guest
Anders Indset: https://www.linkedin.com/company/andersindset/
Books:
- Singularity Paradox – Bridging the Gap Between Humanity & AI: www.singularityparadox.com
- EX MACHINA - The God Experiment: www.exmachinathebook.com
- The Viking Code – The Art and Science of Norwegian Success: www.viking-code.comHosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Arthur C. Clarke's third law, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Hot drop coming through! The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the last day, we have two separate episodes lined up to explore how AI is affecting the macro scale and impacting leadership transformation.
In the last conversation of the event, Dave, Andy, and Rob talk with Lee Moore, VP Global Google Cloud Consulting at Google Cloud about Leading Cloud Transformation with Strategic Vision.
TLDR
00:50 Introduction of Lee Moore
07:00 Final key announcements from the Google Cloud Next Keynote
11:05 Main conversation with Lee Moore about cloud and AI-driven transformation and Intentional leadership
36:31 Who's your favorite magician and tying all the magic together of a fantastic week!!Guest
Lee Moore: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-t-moore/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Guest host Andy Appleby: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyapplebycapgeminiglobalinfrastructureservices/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Arthur C. Clarke's third law, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Hot drop coming through! The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the last day, we have two separate episodes lined up to explore how AI is affecting the macro scale and impacting leadership transformation.
In this conversation, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk with Gina Fratarcangeli, Managing Director, NA GSI Leader at Google Cloud about The shifting landscape of Digital and AI technologies among Fortune 500 companies.
TLDR
00:20 Introduction of Gina Fratarcangeli
03:20 Key announcements from the Google Cloud Next Keynote
05:56 Main conversation with Gina Fratarcangeli about Fortune 500 companies and their journey towards digital transformation and AI
22:01 Who's your favorite magician?Guest
Gina Fratarcangeli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gina-fratarcangeli/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Hot drop coming through! The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the second day, we have three separate episodes lined up to deep dive into industries such as insurance, telecom, and retail, all linked to GenAI, data, and innovation.
In this conversation, Dave, Andy, and Rob talk with Jen Hawes-Hewitt, Head of Global Solution Partner Programs, Global Telecom Industry at Google Cloud about Accelerating Innovation in Telecom with AI and GenAI.
TLDR
01:04 Introduction of Jen Hawes-Hewitt and guest host Andy Appleby
04:06 Key announcements from the Google Cloud Next Keynote
09:39 Main conversation with Jen Hawes-Hewitt
31:58 Who's your favorite magician?Guest
Jen Hawes-Hewitt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenhaweshewitt/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Guest host Andy Appleby: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyapplebycapgeminiglobalinfrastructureservices/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Arthur C. Clarke's third law, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Hot drop coming through! The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the second day, we have three separate episodes lined up to deep dive into industries such as insurance, telecom, and retail, all linked to GenAI, data, and innovation.
In this conversation, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk with Kapil Dabi, America's Director & Market Lead, Retail at Google Cloud about Unlocking Retail Potential with AI and Data.
TLDR
00:24 Introduction of Kapil Dabi
03:00 Key announcements from the Google Cloud Next Keynote and Retail market strategies
09:50 Main conversation with Kapil Dabi about how to unlock retail potential with AI and Data
26:10 Who's your favorite magician?Guest
Kapil Dabi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kapildabi/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Arthur C. Clarke's third law, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Hot drop coming through! The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the second day, we have three separate episodes lined up to deep dive into industries such as insurance, telecom, and retail, all linked to AI, data, and innovation.
In this conversation, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk with Meg Tucker, Director of Insurance at Google Cloud about Fueling Insurance Evolution with AI.
TLDR
00:26 Introduction of Meg Tucker
02:36 Key announcements from the Google Cloud Next Keynote
07:26 Main conversation with Meg Tucker about the Insurance Evolution based on AI
29:30 Who's your favorite magician?Guest
Meg Tucker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megtuckerla/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Arthur C. Clarke's third law, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Hot drop coming through! The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the first day, we have 3 separate episodes lined up to discuss Google AI strategy & vision, practical implementations, and exciting use cases.
In the third conversation, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk with Jim Anderson, VP, NA Partner Ecosystem & Channels at Google, on how customers are using Cloud, AI/ML, and Data Analytics to power digital transformation. From real-world success stories to the trends shaping the year ahead—this one’s packed with actionable insights.
TLDR
00:23 Introduction of Jim Anderson
04:17 Key announcements from the Google Cloud Next Keynote
06:44 Main conversation with Jim Anderson about Driving Digital Transformation with Customers
24:50 Who's your favorite magician?Guest
Jim Anderson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmya/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Arthur C. Clarke's third law, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Hot drop coming through! The Cloud Realities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring Google guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the first day, we have 3 separate episodes lined up to discuss Google AI strategy & vision, practical implementations, and exciting use cases.
In the second conversation, Dave, Esmee, and Rob, talk with Charlotte Gistelinck, Machine Learning / AI Partner Engineer at Google, on how strategic thinking and visioning in AI/ML are key to driving innovation and long-term success.
TLDR
00:24 Introduction of Charlotte Gistelinck
04:12 Key announcements from the Google Cloud Next Keynote
07:17 Main conversation with Charlotte about Strategic Thinking and Visioning in AI
37:14 Who's your favorite magician?Guest
Charlotte Gistelinck: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlottegistelinck/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Hello Las Vegas — we’ve arrived for Google Cloud Next 2025!
Arthur C. Clarke's third law, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
Hot drop coming through! The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed in electric Las Vegas—and you know what they say: what happens in Vegas normally stays in Vegas... but in this case, we’re bringing 8 incredible conversations in the coming days with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of cloud, data, and AI.
On the first day, we have 3 separate episodes lined up to discuss Google AI strategy & vision, practical implementations, and exciting use cases.
Dave, Esmee, and Rob kick off with Saurabh Tiwary, VP, General Manager, Cloud AI at Google Cloud, about Leading AI Innovation for Enterprise Solutions, to solve complex enterprise challenges and deliver true business value.
TLDR
00:22 We're back in Vegas, here's what to expect in the coming days
01:43 Introduction of Saurabh Tiwary and the David Copperfield show
05:14 Discussion on Google Cloud Next themes this week with special guest James Goeders, Head of Product, Google Quantum AI
12:10 Main conversation on Cloud AI with Saurabh Tiwary
37:28 Who's your favorite magician?
Guest
Saurabh Tiwary: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabh-tiwary/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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As organizations increasingly integrate Gen AI into their operations, it's crucial to consider the technology's environmental impact. However, only 12% of executives report that their organizations measure Gen AI's footprint, and just 20% prioritize its environmental footprint among the top five factors when choosing or developing models. Despite this, Gen AI's ability to rapidly process large volumes of data helps organizations improve customer experience, optimize operations, drive growth, and foster innovation.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Lewis Richards, Microsoft Chief Sustainability Officer, UK about the pivotal shift in global sustainability perspectives, the challenges of fostering meaningful conversations in the digital world and strategies to enhance human understanding of technology and its impacts.TLDR
04:10 Rob is confused about shaky user interface design
07:26 Sustainability conversation with Lewis Richards
43:15 What would a digital waste constellation look like?
49:50 Training for a High Rock fitness raceGuest
Lewis Richards: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lewisrichardscso/
Developing sustainable Gen AI, Report from the Capgemini Research Institute: https://www.capgemini.com/insights/research-library/sustainable-gen-ai/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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AI and Generative AI are transforming cybersecurity by enhancing threat detection and response. These technologies offer unmatched accuracy and efficiency, making them crucial for protecting sensitive data. As cyber threats evolve, integrating AI into security strategies is essential.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Corence Klop, CISO at the Rabobank, about the expanding role of AI and Generative AI in cybersecurity, and how to begin integrating these technologies into your organization.TLDR
04:45 Rob is confused about wrong AI information for a hotel booking
08:20 Conversation with Corence
33:40 How can you identify the state of flow for your end-user in agile practices?
40:50 Going to the swimming pool and disco with your daughter
Guest
Corence Klop: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corenceklop/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Osman Peermamode, Director, Data & Analytics at Vodafone Group about data and how can it act as a differentiator and does regulation both help or hinder that progress?
TLDR
01:50 Update on Reimagining Telecoms mini-series
03:30 Main conversation with Osman Peermamode
34:00 AI in other industries and owns the intelligence?
43:55 May dashboard rest in peaceGuest
Osman Peermamode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/osmanpeermamode/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/with Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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In the complex technology landscape, getting the people right is crucial for success. When the right team is in place, the technology will naturally follow, leading to impactful outcomes. Building a strong team ensures that the organization can navigate challenges and leverage technological advancements effectively.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Amy Williams, Managing Director, Cloud Services Product Lead at Barclays about the importance of good leadership and why is it important in today’s Cloud landscape.
TLDR
04:43 Rob is confused about train information at stations
08:30 Conversation with Amy Williams
43:32 Polarity Management and The Leadership Perspective Shift
51:15 Running the 10K faster and continuing with great work within the team
Guest:
Amy Williams: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-williams-618bb612/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.
On the conference's final day, Dave, Esmee, and Rob will deep dive into the near future, concluding the event with discussions on a moon landing and global (space) connectivity between partners and vendors.
Oliver Buschmann, VP, Head of Strategy at EricssonRound table discussion with Heather Tulk, President Commercial and Public Sector from Telus, Thierry Klein President, Bell Labs Solutions Research, and Ashish Surti Chief Digital & Information Officer at Colt Technology ServicesTLDR
00:33 Evaluation of day 2 and expectations of day 3 - it's all about collaboration
08:47 Conversation with Oliver Buschmann about the future and strategy of Telcom's
37:56 C-level round table discussion about grow beyond connectivity, data and AI and the importance of cybersecurity vs new trends
1:22:50 Overall MWC reflections by the team including the Tapas and Sapas framework®Guests
Oliver Buschmann: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-buschmann-4751a8/
Heather Tulk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathertulk/
Thierry Klein: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thierry-klein/
Ashish Surti: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishsurti/Guest host: Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.
On the second day of the conference, Dave, Esmee, and Rob had very exciting conversations about AI trends with:
Chris Penrose, Global VP for Business Development for Telcos at NVIDIAKaaren Hilsen, Head of AI Factory at TelenorTLDR:
00:37: Evaluation of day 1 and expectations of day 2 - it's all about AI and the future
6:03: Conversation with Chris Penrose about NVIDIA partnerships and trends
42:25: Conversation with Kaaren Hilsen about setting up the AI factory
1:11:20 Reflections on day 2 by the team
Guest
Chris Penrose: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-penrose-7742441/
Kaaren Hilsen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaarenhilsen/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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We are live from #MWC25 (Mobile World Congress 2025), direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to leaders from across the industry on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.
Dave, Esmee and Rob set out the main themes of the Conference and have an exciting conversation with:
Ahmad Latif Ali, Associate VP EMEA Telecommunication at Insights, Analyst at IDCTobias Larsson, B2B Head of TeliaTLDR
00:35 Welcome back at MWC in Barcelona!
08:35 Conversation with Ahmad Latif Ali about the 5 trends
49:00 Conversation with Tobias Larssson
1:10:12 Conclusion Day 1Guest
Ahmad Latif Ali: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmadlali/
Tobias Larsson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-larsson-82b39a4/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Sovereign AI is to become a cornerstone of national strategies, enabling countries to develop their own AI infrastructure and capabilities, thereby enhancing strategic resilience and fostering innovation, it will also play a crucial role in sectors such as healthcare and finance, driving advancements and improving security in an increasingly interconnected world.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Chris Stokel-Walker, Journalist, author and communicator specializing in tech, AI, and digital culture (including YouTube and TikTok) about the notion of sovereign AI and how that might develop as part of the AI world going forward.TLDR
04:50 Rob is confused about Net Neutrality
08:40 Cloud conversation with Chris Stokel-Walker
45:42 Superintelligence and how the public and policymakers understand and react to technology
54:50 Going to an art exhibition opening and e-textilesGuest:
Chris Stokel-Walker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stokel/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Every organization is built on people, structures, and culture. But culture isn’t static—it evolves with every interaction, ambition, and shift in circumstance. As IT drives business transformation, new technologies reshape how people connect and collaborate. In this ever-changing landscape, a strong, adaptive culture is the key to lasting success.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Jitske Kramer, Corporate Anthropologist about what is a culture, where does it come from, what does change mean and what we go through when transformation happens to people.TLDR
02:00 Rob is confused about AI models and DeepSeek
09:42 Cloud conversation with Jitske Kramer
48:15 Are we creating a digital environment where ‘free will’ gradually fades away?
56:30 Finally we found a great restaurant and Patterns of Life documentary
Guest:
Jitske Kramer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jitskekramer/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Mallikarjuna Rao, Chief Technology & Enterprise Business Office at Telefonica about the backbone of the industry—the network—and its transformation. What challenges lie ahead and what does the future hold?
'Reimagining Telecoms' Episodes 4 and 5 will be available in the week of February 24.
TLDR
02:31 Update on Reimagining Telecoms mini-series
05:00 Main conversation with Mallik Rao
39:04 Esmee sets up her own mesh network at home
45:39 New job and running the businessGuest
Mallikarjuna Rao: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallikarjun/Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Guest host Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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Digital transformation isn’t just about technology—it’s about people. Culture shapes how teams adapt, collaborate, and drive change, but it also determines whether transformation efforts truly take root. Mindset, leadership, and shared values are the real catalysts for lasting success.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Alex Alves Global IT director Business Architecture at Unilever, about the hidden role of culture in driving transformation success.TLDR:
02:00 Rob is confused about Techno Platform Feudalism06:40 Cloud conversation with Alex Alves
48:35 Research about raising AI as a child
58:10 Starting an applied research PhD (UCL, the AI Lead department in Europe with two Nobel Prizes) and that this is an example of "intrapreneurship" in Unilever. Science as an Innovation lever.
Guest:
Alexandre Alves: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandre-alves-b5315646/Hosts:
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/Production:
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sound:
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
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