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For our 45th episode and the final episode of Season 3, we speak with Adria Kimbrough, Laura Rose, and A.J. Bellido de Luna, three of the mock trial coaches who appeared on the Class Action with Katie Phang podcast. We thought it would be great to hear from Adria, Laura, and AJ to learn more about their career journeys, why they have dedicated their time to coaching mock trial teams, and the advice they have for aspiring lawyers. Adria, Laura, and A.J. help us to end Season 3 with a bang! Don't miss this special conversation with our friends from Class Action.
Show Notes for Episode 45:
Class Action with Katie Pfang is an immersive 12 part documentary podcast series about the next generation of lawyers, heard through the voices of law students competing in mock trial tournaments around the country. You can listen to Class Action on iHeart, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you like to listen!
Adria Kimbrough is the Student Recruiting Manager in the Marshall-Motley Scholars Program at the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund. Previously, Adria was a Pre-Law Advisor at Dillard University in New Orleans and served as one of the University’s Mock Trial Team coaches. Professor Kimbrough is a graduate of Talledega College and the University of Cincinnati College of Law.
Laura Rose is an Associate Professor of Law and the Heidepriem Trial Advocacy Fellow at the University of South Dakota Knudson School of Law. Professor Rose is a graduate of Stetson University and Stetson University College of Law.
A.J. Bellido de Luna is the Assistant Dean for Advocacy Programs and Hardy Service Professor of Law at St. Mary’s University School of Law in San Antonio, Texas. He teaches Trial Advocacy and Arbitration and directs the law school’s Advocacy Program National Team. A.J. is a graduate of University of Maryland School of Law and Johns Hopkins University.
Learn more about and listen to Class Action with Katie Pfang by visiting the Class Action website. You can also follow Class Action on Instagram.
Class Action with Katie Pfang is a production of Sound Argument and iHeartMedia. Thank you to producers Lisa Gray and Kevin Huffman for pitching this collaboration to us!
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Producers Kevin Huffman and Lisa Gray check in with former Dillard students Amaya Ronczyk and Lajeanne Shelton. Amaya is currently a 1L at Harvard Law, and Lajeanne is a 1L at UC Hastings Law. They talk about their personal experiences as a first-year law student, along with giving some helpful advice for future students, going from an HBCU to a PWI, skills carried over from the Dillard Mock Trial team into their current courses, and some exciting news about this year’s Dillard case law.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
Harvard Law School
UC Hastings Law
Dillard University Pre-Law Program
American Mock Trial Association
National Black Law Students Association (NBLSA)
National Bar Association
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Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
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Producers Kevin Huffman and Lisa Gray check in with St. Mary’s Law coach AJ Bellido de Luna and former student Andy Vizcarra. You’ll hear some of their personal experiences about being followed by the podcast production team, reflections on upsetting moments during last season’s tournaments, and exciting current news about the team.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
Texas Young Lawyers Association
National Trial League
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
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Genesis Salinas, a Saint Mary's 2L, travels 3 and a half hours south of San Antonio to her hometown in the Rio Grande Valley. There, along the Texas-Mexico border, her family celebrates Christmas as she re-adjusts to what life was like before law school. The holidays, though a short time together, reminds her of the importance of family, culture and tradition
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
Texas Young Lawyers Association
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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For the first time in its history, Dillard sends a team to the National Tournament! Dozens of teams from around the country descend on Lancaster, PA, to not only admire the trophies, but to battle each other in the old courthouse. Adria has brought her team to the Promised Land in what will be her last tournament with the team. History will be made.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
Dillard University Pre-Law Program American Mock Trial Association National Black Law Students Association National Bar Association
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson Legal Defense Fund
Equal Justice Initiative Harvard Law SchoolUC Hastings Law School
Southern University Law Center
National Association for Law Placement (NALP)
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.This episode had additional field production by Jason Foster
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Mock trial is supposed to prepare you for real trial. Andy and Jasmin are about to see if that’s true. They are going to face off in Bexar County Court for an actual case in front of a judge and jury.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
Texas Young Lawyers Association
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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It’s been a grueling season for AJ’s St. Mary’s squad. Spirits are low. Exhaustion has creeped in. The Regional Competition is around the corner – and the case packet has just dropped. If they win in Houston, they advance to Nationals. Lose, and they go home. And standing in their way is perennial nemesis, Baylor University. The odds are low, but when the finals are held on a Sunday, anything can happen.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
Texas Young Lawyers Association
University of Houston Law Center
American Board of Trial Advocates
Baylor Law School
South Texas College of Law
University of Texas, Austin, School of Law
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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Adria is a fan of the philosopher Nick Saban, the decorated coach of the Alabama football team. She and Judge Kern Reese want their team to stay focused, be clear and concise. Tight. She sends her team to an invitational in Houston to see who is ready for the big time in the spring. The results are mixed. Back home in New Orleans, the team rallies and punches their ticket to the Regional Championship.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
Dillard University Pre-Law Program
American Mock Trial Association
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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Matt Skinner and Tyler Volesky are sons of prominent defense attorneys in South Dakota who honor their Native American heritage by fighting for justice. Matt takes us inside the Minnehaha County Public Defender’s office, where he argues in real court on behalf of a Native client. Tyler is following in his father's footsteps in both law and politics. But first, he must overcome some obstacles in the world of mock trial.
University of South Dakota Knudson School of Law
Hofstra University School of Law
American University Washington School of Law
Howard University School of Law
Minnehaha County Public Defender's Office
ICWA (Indian Child Welfare Act) information
Tribal Justice: 25 Years as a Tribal Appellate Justice by Frank Pommersheim
Tribal Law Journal
National Native American Bar Association
The Legal Construction of Discriminatory Mass Surveilance by Gregrory Brazeal
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
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After a disappointing showing in the Battle of the Experts, the St. Mary's team is back together, determined to make a comeback. Mariela joins Andy, Jasmin and Cole, this time as an advocate. They pledge allegiance to Justice Sotomayor and Bad Bunny. The team is on the precipice of winning, only to face discrimination during a controversial semi-final round. Andy and her family celebrate El Grito.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
Texas chapters of ABOTA
American Board of Trial Advocates
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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A spate of recent Supreme Court decisions are eroding the civil rights of all Americans, especially women. Katie Phang checks in with the Brooklyn team to gauge their reactions to the overturning of Roe v Wade and other decisions. Listen to how these future lawyers plan to fight and protect our rights.
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Anjani Shah and Ellie Sands lead an all-female team from Brooklyn Law against an all-male team from Harvard University at the annual MLK National Civil Rights Competition. It’s an epic battle for an important cause. Anjani's immigrant parents watch the trial online, and her dad teaches us how to make a proper cup of chai. Back on campus, Ellie appeals to President Biden for clemency on behalf of her endangered client.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
Brooklyn Law School
UC Davis School of Law
Fordham University School of Law
Brooklyn Defender Services
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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The undergraduate trial season at Dillard University gets off to a disastrous start as Hurricane Ida lays waste to the campus, forcing students into hotels for safety. Coach Adria Kimbrough must quickly re-assemble her team and get them prepped for its first competition at Ole Miss., where generations ago, Black students were denied entry. Times change and the Dillard team rallies, but some victories are bittersweet.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
Dillard University Pre-Law Program
American Mock Trial Association
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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Dawn breaks for the “Battle of the Experts.” In San Antonio, St. Mary’s team rookie Mariela Encinas prays for success at the Red Mass, the 13th-century Catholic ceremony that traditionally offers a blessing to the legal community for the upcoming court year. In South Dakota, the team gets stoked up on pasta and smoothies. Coach Rose makes it simple for her team, telling them “Blood makes the grass grow." Then, the judges call the trials to order, and it is on.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
University of South Dakota Knudson School of Law
Elie Honig
Drexel University Thomas R. Kline School of Law
Up Against the Mob with Elie Honig
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
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“Never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut.” The first big tournament of the season is a murder case based on the plot of Martin Scorsese’s Goodfellas. The teams are practicing saying “consigliere” and figuring out what the difference is between a “capo” and a “soldier.” In between we get a lesson on South Dakota geography (cowboy hats out west), and take a trip to H.E.B. (el Heb) for triple shot espressos.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
University of South Dakota Knudson School of Law
Elie Honig
Drexel University Thomas R. Kline School of Law
Up Against the Mob with Elie Honig
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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It's boot camp graduation day at St. Mary's and the nervous 2L’s must pass one final test before they can make the team: Cross-examine their coach in an actual courtroom. AJ is a former Marine. One by one they march down Mosquito Alley in their suits. AJ is ready. “Some who you thought were going to do great are gonna fall flat on their face. Some who struggled had a light bulb go off last night and are going to do fantastic. Everyone else is going to be in the middle.” Tears will be shed.
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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The 100-degree heat in San Antonio won't stop St. Mary's University coach AJ Bellido de Luna from drilling his team on the fundamentals. “We’re going to be the largest populated school for Latino law students. These students are here to make a difference,” he says. And for coach Laura Rose at the University of South Dakota, being midwest nice has no place in a mock trial tournament. She lays down the law; “You guys are engaged in a highly competitive law school sport.”
Learn more about the schools, programs and special guests:
St. Mary's University Law School
University of South Dakota Knudson School of Law
Preet Bharara
Trial Team Central
Follow us on Twitter @ClassActionPod and Instagram @ClassActionPod
Visit our show page for transcripts and more details about the series at ClassActionPod.com
Follow host Katie Phang on Twitter @KatiePhang and Instagram @KatiePhang.
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