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In the second half of their conversation, Edward J. van Luinen, Ed.D. and Tricia Cerrone reveal the system behind their decade-long collaboration—and the framework that became their book, Collaborate to Compete.
But this isn’t just theory. It’s a Gen X playbook for how to lead, design, and scale collaboration that actually sticks. Grounded in five core behaviors—generosity, resourcefulness, co-creation, action, and gratitude—and powered by a noble purpose, their method flips the script on outdated workplace thinking.
For Gen Xers who’ve quietly led with trust and integrity, this episode validates everything you’ve practiced—and gives you the language to teach it forward.
>>Start With Self, Scale With Systems
“Collaboration isn’t a team sport—it’s an individual practice.”
They explain why collaboration isn’t about tech or tools, but behaviors—and why it must be designed into people first, not platforms.
>>Five Behaviors, One Noble Purpose
“Generosity. Resourcefulness. Co-creation. Action. Gratitude.”
Edward and Tricia walk through the five behavioral anchors of collaboration—and why the ‘how’ must come before the ‘what.’
>>Why the Old Workplace Models Are Failing
“We’re still running on 1900s bonus structures—and wondering why collaboration breaks down.”
They unpack how outdated incentive systems kill trust and team performance—and how leaders can redesign for shared wins.
>>The Disney Story That Brought It Home
“I watched a father put his arm around his son—and almost cried.”
Tricia shares the moment that reminded her why collaboration must be human-centered—because when it’s done right, it doesn’t just produce results. It heals.
>>From High Concept to DIY
“Take the five behaviors and run a self-check. Which ones are you already living?”
They offer tangible steps for leaders, founders, and managers to assess and apply collaborative behaviors today—without waiting for a reorg.
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Edward J. van Luinen, Ed.D. and Tricia Cerrone didn’t build a personal brand around collaboration—they lived one.
In this first of a two-part series, they reflect on the working relationship that began at Disney and slowly evolved into a business, a book, and a model for how Gen X builds enduring trust.
Forget quick team-building hacks and shallow LinkedIn takes—this is collaboration done the Gen X way: built slowly, refined over time, and grounded in shared values.
If you’re tired of performative partnerships and want to know what staying power really looks like, this is your episode.
>>The Relationship That Didn’t Expire
“Most work relationships fade. This one evolved.”
Edward and Tricia share how a three-year collaboration at Disney grew into a decade of trust, business, and a co-authored book on leadership.
>>No Hierarchy, No Ego
“We weren’t assigned roles—we built the rules together.”
They reflect on leading a global initiative without clear power dynamics, and how mutual respect became the real structure.
>>The First Coffee Was the Turning Point
“That coffee wasn’t about a project—it was about character.”
Tricia recalls how her initial skepticism melted when Edward showed up with presence, empathy, and zero pretense.
>>Why It Worked: Five Behaviors, One Blueprint
“We didn’t write the book first—we lived it.”
They walk through five consistent behaviors—generosity, gratitude, grace, curiosity, and accountability—that made their team the one others wanted to be on.
>>Tech Can’t Fake Trust
“You can’t app your way into a good relationship.”
Edward and Tricia challenge today’s obsession with productivity tools, arguing that collaboration starts with who you are—not what you use.
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John Gates has been on the inside of more salary negotiations than most of us will see in a lifetime—over 75,000 offers across industries and levels. From a scrappy upbringing in Oregon to global recruiting roles at Capital One and beyond, John learned how the game works. And now, he’s helping jobseekers stop lowballing themselves and start playing smarter.
In this episode, he debunks the biggest salary myths, shares the scripts that work, and explains why salary negotiation starts long before the offer lands. For Gen Xers navigating job transitions or prepping for the next big move, this episode is both a wake-up call and a negotiation playbook.
>>From Pizza Delivery to Pay Negotiation Powerhouse
“I worked 30 hours a week at Domino’s and crammed two degrees into two and a half years.”
John shares how a scrappy start built the systems thinking and urgency that now powers his work with jobseekers and executives alike.
>>Recruiter, Interrupted
“I was laid off before my first job even started.”
He reflects on the early career shock that forced him into recruiting by accident—and the surprising skills he found along the way.
>>The Capital One Lightbulb Moment
“I got the offer, the bonus, the relocation bump—and still felt I’d left money on the table.”
That one regret launched his obsession: learning how recruiters really build offers and how much most candidates are missing out on.
>>The Salary Lies That Get Recycled on LinkedIn
“Know your worth and demand it? That’s how you get ghosted.”
John unpacks the worst advice online and explains why collaboration—not confrontation—is the smarter way to negotiate.
>>When to Talk Money (and What to Say)
“Most people wait until the offer. By then, it’s too late for the Mercedes—you’re getting the Beetle.”
He reveals the step-by-step strategy that builds leverage from the first click, not the final call.
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Jason Bloomfield didn’t learn change in an MBA program—he learned it through real life.
As a teenager, he became the de facto head of household. Now, as Global Head of People Change and Experience Design at Ericsson, he leads transformation across 180 countries. In this episode, Jason shares how active listening, design thinking, and human-first systems have helped him move organizations from dysfunction to alignment. From M&A integrations to HR tech failures, from -83 NPS scores to user-designed wins, his work proves one thing: change only sticks when it’s built with—not for—the people it’s meant to serve.
For Gen Xers who’ve lived through chaos and are now leading through it, this episode is a blueprint in action.
>>From Family Collapse to First Acquisition
“I was the only one with income. So I had to figure it out.”
Jason opens up about his early years, navigating a broken home while building stability from scratch—and how that experience shaped his instincts in business.
>>Career by Constraint
“They asked if I’d move to 1 Madison Avenue. I said yes—and just kept saying yes.”
From wiring cables to managing a global acquisition across 13 countries, Jason shares how constraints—and curiosity—turned into growth and global opportunity.
>>Change Starts with Listening
“Active listening sends a signal: you care.”
Jason breaks down why empathy is not a soft skill—it’s the hardest one. Especially when leading transformation across 100,000 employees and 180 countries.
>>Turning a -83 NPS into a Shared Win
“The tool was hated. But people started feeling heard.”
He recounts how a globally despised HR tool became usable—through co-creation, honesty, and building feedback loops that actually changed things.
>>From Paper to Trust
“They didn’t hate digital. They didn’t trust institutions.”
Jason explains how assumptions kill adoption—and how design thinking and diverse input helped his teams shift deeply entrenched behaviors.
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In the second half of her conversation, Erika Ayers Badan—CEO of Food52, former CEO of Barstool Sports, board leader, media powerhouse, and author of _No One Cares About Your Career_—lets us behind the curtain.
From negotiating screen time as a kid to rewriting the rules as a high-profile executive, she reflects on how grit, autonomy, and unfiltered curiosity shaped everything—from her parenting to her management style. She shares why she no longer chases titles, what failure really teaches us, and why today’s “toxic culture” talk often needs more clarity than cancellation.
For Gen Xers raising kids, leading teams, or just trying to keep their values intact in a noisy world, this episode is the deep breath you didn’t know you needed.
>>The Original Streaming Negotiation
“My brother and I shared one hour of TV a week. That’s how I learned to negotiate.”
Erika reflects on the creative, disciplined upbringing that shaped her independence—and how it made her a better leader, dealmaker, and parent.
>>Titles Are Overrated. Impact Isn’t.
“I cared about titles in my 20s. Now I care about purview.”
She explains why chasing titles is a trap—and why real career growth is measured in responsibility, resilience, and reach.
>>Fail Always Mode
“If you feel like you’re failing, it means you care—and you’re trying something new.”
Erika breaks down why failure isn’t just tolerable—it’s necessary. And why she rewards effort over perfection every time.
>>Culture > Buzzwords
“I’m allergic to gossip, inertia, and pontificating.”
From toxic culture to real collaboration, Erika shares her no-BS filter for building teams that do the work and actually like doing it.
>>Gen Alpha, Gen X, and the Parenting Gap
“I worry their advantages are actually disadvantages.”
She gets honest about parenting kids in a hyper-stimulated world—and why she’s racing the clock to instill resilience before the clay hardens.
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Erika Ayers Badan isn’t here to polish the truth—she’s here to say it louder.
In this first of a two-part series, the current CEO of Food52 and former CEO of Barstool Sports breaks down the raw realities behind her debut book, No One Cares About Your Career. From writing on commuter trains to fielding hundreds of workplace questions a week, Erika shares why her advice hits different—because it’s honest, hard-earned, and hyper-relevant for a Gen X audience still rewriting the rulebook.
This isn’t a pep talk. It’s a reset.
>>The Title That Says It All
“It’s not just a title—it’s the truth.”
Erika reveals how No One Cares About Your Career went from a casual comment to the book’s heartbeat—and why it resonates across industries, generations, and inboxes.
>>When Creativity Gets Crushed
“I went from running wild to daily reforecasts and regulatory meetings.”
She opens up about the moment corporate structure smothered her spark—and how writing a book on the train became a lifeline back to creative energy.
>>The Mid-Chapter Career Book
“This isn’t for the lost or the legends. It’s for the people in the messy middle.”
Erika explains who the book is for—and why it’s not another glossy manifesto or three-step self-help trick.
>>The Five Things That Actually Matter at Work
“Who you are. What you offer. How you show up. What you do with your time. And how much you care.”
Forget the buzzwords. Erika distills 25 years of media, tech, and executive leadership into five brutally simple career rules.
>>Mentoring at Scale
“I get 200 questions a week—and I try to answer every one.”
She shares how social media became her advice desk, what Gen Z is most worried about, and why transparency—not perfection—is the new leadership currency.
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Mark Bayer spent 20 years in the U.S. Congress shaping major policies and managing high-stakes communication for senior lawmakers.
In Part Two, Mark gets practical—breaking down the actual tools and mindset shifts PhDs need to thrive in the private sector. From his 11 Keys to Translating Complexity (complexitymadeclear.com) to why metaphors matter more than models, he shows how scientists can go from overlooked to unforgettable. Plus, what AI can’t do—and why your human voice still matters more than ever.
This one’s for anyone who’s been told their skills are “too academic.” Turns out, they’re your superpower—if you know how to use them.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The “11 Keys” Framework
“Shakespeare said, brevity is the soul of wit. But it’s also the start of strategy.”
Wake Words and Brain Wiring
“Our brains tune into the unexpected. Use that to your advantage.”
Crossing Cultures & Languages
“Being bilingual helps you distill ideas—and respect your audience’s world.”
The Real Meaning of Connection
“You have to connect before you communicate. That’s not soft—it’s strategy.”
AI Can’t Replicate Your Voice
“AI pulls from old ideas. Your job is to bring something new, human, and surprising.”
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Mark Bayer spent 20 years in the U.S. Congress shaping major policies and managing high-stakes communication for senior lawmakers.
In Part One, he reflects on what those years taught him about messaging, persuasion, and why most PhDs—despite their brilliance—struggle to translate their value. From Capitol Hill to Harvard Medical School, Mark now helps scientists and researchers communicate like insiders.
This episode is a masterclass in what PhDs get wrong—and what they already have right.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The First “R&D” Mix-up
“I thought they were talking about research and development. But it was Republicans and Democrats.”
The 8% Problem
“Only 8% of PhDs stay in academia. But nearly all are trained as if that’s the only path.”
Misunderstood Advantage
“PhDs are analytical, resilient, focused—yet many don’t see those as selling points.”
Beauty vs. Relevance
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Importance is in the eye of the stakeholders.”
Your Message Has 10 Seconds
“Lead with the punchline. Or your audience will drift.”
Why Communication ≠ Dumping Data
“Scientists want to show everything they know. But that’s not the job. The job is to answer the question.”
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From facing seven years in prison at 17 to leading soldiers in Afghanistan, Jevon Wooden’s story is more than a redemption arc—it’s about owning your power the moment you realize you’ve still got one.
In Part 1, Jevon, the author of "Functional to Phenomenal" and "Own Your Kingdom", opens up about growing up in one of America’s poorest cities, learning to survive, and ultimately discovering his worth had nothing to do with money.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Veterans Day, Forever Changed
“I watched six people die. A year later, my daughter was born on the same day.”
When trauma and hope collide.
From Pain to Purpose
“That red flash in my nightmares? It stopped the day I forgave my father.”
The invisible work behind healing.
Coaching the “A-hole Executive”
“He said, ‘I care—I just don’t know how to show it.’”
Helping leaders reconnect with their team, and themselves.
Empathy ≠ Weakness
“It’s not about being soft—it’s about being smart.”
Why emotional intelligence is the hardest and most essential leadership skill.
Watch Your Patterns
“Triggers tell the truth. Learn what sets you off—before it costs your team.”
The self-awareness most leaders skip.
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From facing seven years in prison at 17 to leading soldiers in Afghanistan, Jevon Wooden’s story is more than a redemption arc—it’s about owning your power the moment you realize you’ve still got one.
In Part 1, Jevon, the author of "Functional to Phenomenal" and "Own Your Kingdom", opens up about growing up in one of America’s poorest cities, learning to survive, and ultimately discovering his worth had nothing to do with money.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Wrong Crowd, the Right Wake-Up Call
“I wasn’t guilty that night, but I was heading there fast.”
How one arrest changed everything.
A Mother’s Sacrifice
“She offered to put up her house to get me a lawyer.”
The first lesson in love, empathy, and accountability.
From Janitor to Army Leader
“I worked two full-time jobs before choosing the military.”
Why service gave him more than stability—it gave him purpose.
Not Just Discipline, But Discovery
“In the Army, I learned I was a leader—and I didn’t need rank to prove it.”
The Value Shift
“I realized value isn’t what you wear—it’s what you give.”
How he redefined self-worth from the ground up.
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In Part 3 of this series, narrative strategist Chris Hare leaves us with a gift: the tools to take control of our own stories.
Whether it’s envisioning your future in a quiet theater, asking loved ones for feedback through a meaningful 360, or identifying the patterns that shaped your past, Chris’s methods are built for reflection and action. This isn’t productivity advice or LinkedIn bait—it’s practical wisdom for designing a story you can live with.
For Gen Xers rethinking legacy, reinvention, and what success actually looks like, this episode is a toolkit with a soul.
>>The Movie Theater Exercise
“What would your life movie look like if it played tomorrow in an empty theater?”
Chris walks us through a powerful future-visioning tool: a quiet, internal exercise that helps you feel the trajectory of your life—and decide if it’s headed where you want.
>>The Real 360
“Ask people who love you: what’s my superpower?”
Chris explains how to gather stories and values from people who know you best—not for a performance review, but for a pattern breakthrough.
>>How One Story Sparked a LinkedIn Flood
“A fighter pilot shared his lowest moment. Hundreds told him who he really was.”
Chris shares how a client’s vulnerable storytelling post turned into a cascade of unseen feedback—proving that the stories we live often matter more than we realize.
>>Inputs, Not Absolutes
“Be careful—feedback reflects the version of you people saw, not who you’re becoming.”
Chris and Vince dig into the risks of misaligned input, and why choosing a diverse, thoughtful, and intentional group for feedback is everything.
>>Why Machines Can’t Replace Meaning
“If AI read our transcript, it’d miss the one moment that mattered.”
Chris explains why storytelling—and coaching—can’t be fully automated. Because the spark is often in the tone, the pause, the shift. And only humans catch that.
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In Part 2 of his three-part series, narrative strategist Chris Hare shares the stories he used to survive.
From a near-suicidal season while working at Amazon to a healing moment years later in a record store, this episode unpacks how internal stories—if left unchecked—can become prisons. But when named, challenged, and re-authored, they can also become paths to freedom.
For Gen Xers who’ve spent decades carrying stories they didn’t choose, this is a masterclass in taking your story back—and choosing what to build next.
>>When the Narrative Turns Against You
“I repeated ‘I’m stuck’ like a mantra—for hours, every week.”
Chris reveals how one toxic narrative nearly ended his life, and how a shift in story—triggered by a tragic moment—gave him just enough room to survive.
>>From Mental Health Crisis to Narrative Recovery
“I believed I was going to die. That became my story.”
He shares his journey through depression, chronic pain, and burnout—and the slow, uncomfortable work of rewriting that internal tape.
>>The Most Powerful Story He Ever Felt
“It started with my boss’s tattoo and ended with Eddie Vedder hugging me in a record store.”
Chris tells the full-circle story of how a Pearl Jam song became the turning point in his healing—and why storytelling doesn’t just change businesses, it changes people.
>>Storytelling Is a Risk—and a Return
“Most of us tell curated stories. The raw ones? That’s where the power is.”
He makes a case for telling the stories that aren’t polished. Because those are the stories that truly shift our futures—and invite others to shift with us.
>>From Blame to Responsibility
“I had to stop blaming everyone else for my unhappiness.”
Chris opens up about how his marriage nearly ended, and how rewriting his personal narrative—through new inputs and radical honesty—brought him back.
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In Part 1 of this three-part series, Chris Hare shares how a single founder story sparked a strategy pivot inside Amazon—and why storytelling isn’t fluff, it’s infrastructure.
As a behind-the-scenes strategist for some of tech’s biggest companies, Chris has spent decades shaping narratives that align people, purpose, and performance. But his real power lies in his Gen X sensibility: low drama, high pattern recognition, and deep alignment between what’s said and what’s done. This episode explores how narrative becomes strategy—and why the most powerful shifts often start quietly, from the edges.
>>From Ad World to Strategic Narrative
“I started in marketing, but I got tired of talking at people.”
Chris shares how his path from advertising to Amazon and Microsoft led him to discover a deeper kind of storytelling—one that doesn’t sell, but aligns and activates.
>>Stories Fuel the Narrative—But Don’t Confuse the Two
“Stories are time-bound. Narratives are ongoing.”
He breaks down the difference between stories and narratives using a flywheel model—and why most companies misuse both.
>>When a Story Shifts a Billion-Dollar Business
“One conversation in Brooklyn rewrote the future of Amazon Marketplace.”
Chris recounts how a single founder story changed the internal narrative at Amazon, sparking a strategic shift toward supporting brand owners—not just resellers.
>>Narrative Isn’t a Department—It’s the Operating System
“Everyone thinks they own the narrative. The CMO. The CEO. The team.”
He unpacks why narrative must be rooted in strategy, and why trying to split it between brand, marketing, and product only creates confusion.
>>How Change Starts with Listening
“Storytelling isn’t a hero’s journey framework. It’s a pattern recognition discipline.”
Chris explains how real narrative work starts with deep listening and curiosity—and how companies can design strategy around human insight, not hype.
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In Part 2 of her conversation, Sara Lobkovich doesn’t just tell us what strategy is—she shows us who it’s for.
Her book, You Are a Strategist, is more than a guide to OKRs or goal-setting. It’s a toolkit for people who’ve always felt misaligned, misunderstood, or mislabeled in traditional business environments. Drawing from her own experience as a trauma survivor, neurodivergent thinker, and late-diagnosed ADHD strategist, Sara offers business frameworks that finally include the rest of us.
For Gen Xers who never fit the mold but always saw the system clearly, this episode is both validation and a user manual.
>>From Law School to Strategy Misfit
“I never got the interview. I didn’t have the right name on my résumé.”
Sara reflects on being locked out of big-name strategy firms—and how that exclusion pushed her to build her own frameworks, grounded in human insight, not prestige.
>>Strategy as Shared Language
“The simplest tech in business? Words that mean the same thing to everyone.”
Sara breaks down how misalignment over simple terms like ‘strategy’ or ‘goals’ can waste human energy—and how her frameworks give teams a shared starting point.
>>The Book That Became a Love Letter
“I wrote the book I needed—and cried when I read the proof.”
She shares how You Are a Strategist evolved from a workbook on goal-setting into a deeply personal guide for people who feel unseen in traditional business culture.
>>A Toolkit for the Misunderstood
“This book is for introverts, ADHDers, trauma survivors, frustrated changemakers.”
Sara explains why her audience matters—and how her tools were designed for people often left out of business conversations but full of unrealized insight.
>>Leading Through Questions, Not Performances
“Strategy is asking the question no one else is asking—then listening.”
She closes by reframing leadership as a curiosity-driven practice, not a performance—and why the most powerful change-makers are often the ones who feel like outsiders.
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Sara Lobkovich didn’t pivot to be edgy. She adapted because the system never fit—and she refused to shrink herself to match it.
In this first of a two-part series, Sara walks us through her nonlinear arc: from teen internet entrepreneur to lawyer, from burnout strategist to behavioral goal-setting expert. Along the way, she reveals how quiet defiance, early activism, and radical self-curiosity helped her rewire how she worked and lived.
For Gen Xers tired of being told to “just fit in,” this episode hits like a guidebook wrapped in real talk.
>>Port Townsend Roots, Strategy Brain Wiring
“I was raised where being a writer or artist wasn’t a dream—it was a job.”
Sara shares how growing up in a small creative town and fighting for chocolate milk equity in third grade foreshadowed a life spent rewriting systems that didn’t make sense.
>>Corporate Doesn’t Like People Like Us
“I gave 150% and learned they only wanted 25.”
She opens up about being misread, underused, and professionally ghosted inside organizations that couldn’t make space for someone who thought faster than the hierarchy could handle.
>>Law School, Big Agencies, and That One Job That Broke Her
“I was the person on the plane with no life and a dog living with my parents.”
Sara traces her journey through law, tech, brand strategy, and burnout—highlighting how her performance often outpaced her internal compass.
>>Strategy as a Rebellion, Not a Resume
“Strategy isn’t being the smartest in the room—it’s asking the best questions.”
She unpacks how real strategy is built by misfits, introverts, and pattern-obsessives—not always the polished ones at the front of the pitch deck.
>>Stuck ≠ Static
“I made stuckness into a self-directed MBA.”
For Sara, curiosity is the antidote to stagnation. She reframes “being stuck” as a training ground and offers a mindset shift for anyone feeling locked in place.
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In this second half of her story, Holly Bond comes full circle—returning to the recruiting world she once left behind, this time to rebuild it from the ground up. At Facets, she’s proving that scaling a business doesn’t require sacrificing soul. From her pay structure to her candidate experience to her team’s human-first process, Holly is quietly leading a revolution in executive search.
She also drops some of the best job-seeking advice on the show to date—especially for Gen Xers navigating reinvention in an AI-shaped job market.
>>Why She Said No for Two Years
“I wasn’t going back unless I could build it on my terms.”
Holly shares how she turned down the offer to lead a recruiting division—until the company agreed to let her rewrite the model with empathy at the core.
>>From Commission to Compassion
“I spent 90 minutes with a man in crisis. And someone called it non-revenue-generating time.”
That moment made her walk away. Now, she leads a team that’s paid to care—not just to close.
>>Human-First Headhunting
“We’re not built for speed. We’re built for connection.”
Facets was founded to serve both candidates and clients—not just fill roles. The process is slow by design, and that’s the point.
>>Can’t-Miss Advice for Job Seekers
“Keep your resume on your desktop—like a living will.”
From networking mindset to real-world resume tips, Holly offers grounded, no-BS advice for job seekers of all ages, especially those in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.
>>What AI Can’t Replace
“We use AI to be more efficient—so we can be more human.”
Holly explains exactly where AI fits into her recruiting process—and where it never will. Emotional nuance, creativity, and human connection? Still 100% analog.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Holly Bond--Chief Change Officer--
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Holly Bond didn’t inherit a business or a playbook—she built her own, from the basement up.
In this first of a two-part conversation, she shares how a late return to university, a family health wake-up call, and pure Gen X tenacity drove her to create a kids’ fitness franchise with national impact. Holly’s story is part entrepreneurship, part emotional reckoning, and full of hard-earned wisdom for anyone designing change from the inside out. If you’ve ever thought it was too late, too messy, or too uncertain—this episode proves otherwise.
>>Seventeen Years and One Framed Diploma
“My kids framed my degree—with notes saying ‘You’re the bomb.’”
Holly recounts how she returned to college as a mom of two, taking one course at a time over nearly two decades—proving that starting late doesn’t mean finishing small.
>>Sales from Scratch
“I went from mall dumpsters to headhunter interviews.”
Her first outside sales job was in waste management. The job was unglamorous—but it proved she could sell. And it led her, unexpectedly, to the world of recruiting.
>>The Moment That Changed Everything
“He said our son was overweight. I didn’t believe it—until I saw it.”
A brutally honest conversation about her son’s health launched Holly into action. What began as a home gym turned into Bulldog Interactive Fitness, a children’s fitness franchise powered by gaming.
>>From Basement Prototypes to National News
“I said we’re franchising on TV—before we even had an application form.”
She hustled media coverage, fielded 100+ franchise inquiries in 24 hours, and built the brand on the fly. It was messy. It was bold. And it worked—until the 2009 crash tested everything.
>>The Lessons That Nearly Broke Her
“I stopped listening to the advisors who warned me. Almost lost it all.”
From overconfidence to near-collapse, Holly reflects on how she came close to losing her company—and what pulled her back just in time.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Holly Bond--Chief Change Officer--
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In Part Two, Sande takes us into the quieter—but more honest—chapter that followed. He shares what happened when he stepped off the growth treadmill, redefined ambition, and began unlearning the beliefs that kept him over-performing and under-listening. From rebuilding marriage to carving out what he calls Life Peels, Sande shares what it means to grow by subtracting—not stacking.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Life After the Climb
“What would happen if I just got really quiet and listened? Not learned—listened.”
The Life Peels Method
“We’re like Michelangelo’s David. You don’t need to add anything—you just need to carve away what’s not you.”
Redefining Growth
“I’m done with strategy decks and trying to prove something. I just want clarity, ease, and to feel good in my skin.”
Marriage in the In-Between
“When our last kid left for college, we both needed space. Not because it was broken—but because we hadn’t had it before.”
How Less Became More
“When I let go of trying to control everything, the right things started happening. On their own.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Top 1 US Careers.>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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Sande Golgart was the guy who said yes to every opportunity, outran every challenge, and never sat still—until one day, the success story stopped feeling like his.
In Part One, he opens up about going from slam dunk champ to corporate high-performer to someone questioning the very game he was winning. He talks about early ambition, the trap of nonstop action, and the moment he realized: “You climb, climb, climb… then realize the mountain isn’t even yours.”
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Slam Dunks to Sales Calls
“I was competing in dunk contests all over the country. I used that same mindset in business.”
The High Performer Trap
“I just kept saying yes. I never said no. I kept moving, kept growing, kept stretching.”
Action Over Inaction
“Even if you take a wrong step, at least you’re moving. Inaction is a choice too—but it gives you nothing to work with.”
The Wake-Up Line
“You climb, climb, climb… then realized the mountain isn’t even yours.”
No Off Switch
“I didn’t even know what I liked. I never stopped long enough to ask.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.14 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
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Chris Quek isn’t just building startups—he’s building a generation.
In this second half of his story, he shares how selling his inheritance became the launchpad for Thrive, a VC firm that invests in Southeast Asia’s overlooked next-gen entrepreneurs. From structuring value-aligned startups to teaching his kids the principles behind technology, Chris shows how legacy isn’t something you receive—it’s something you design.
For Gen Xers navigating intergenerational tension, personal ambition, and regional impact, this episode delivers both hard-won wisdom and a hopeful blueprint.
>>From Closure to Creation
“I didn’t inherit a business—I shut it down.”
Chris shares the emotional closure with his father, the sale of the family factory, and how he turned personal loss into a new professional beginning.
>>Southeast Asia’s Family Business Wake-Up Call
“We raised a generation of lawyers and bankers—but who’s left to run the businesses?”
He explains how Singapore’s success came at a cost: the erosion of entrepreneurial drive—and why he’s now building the bridge back.
>>Designing a VC That Feeds the Ecosystem
“Our investors are second-gen family owners. Our startups solve their problems.”
Chris outlines Thrive’s unique model: a purpose-built flywheel that connects capital, tech, and legacy businesses in Southeast Asia.
>>Capital with a Conscience
“We backed a ride-hailing company where drivers take home 40% more pay.”
From AgriMax to Tata, Chris shares examples of startups Thrive has funded that combine profitability with real, human impact.
>>Fatherhood, Values, and the Next Next Gen
“I don’t teach my kids my methods—I teach them my values.”
Chris opens up about parenting three children under 13, mentoring with intention, and why good values—not rigid playbooks—are what truly last.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Christopher Quek--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
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Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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