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We’re making some changes to the podcast.
The world of media is changing. As I chat with other creative teams, production companies, and agencies everyone is questioning where the world of media is going in the outdoor industry. This is a topic that’s near and dear to my heart and so in this latest episode, I share some changes about what you can expect to see in the podcast lineup of guests.
- Cole
About the Backcountry Marketing PodcastThis podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. If you need help bringing your next video project to life, check out our website to learn more. If not, enjoy this episode and discover other resources below:
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In this episode, Cole sits down with Robert Sawyer, the Creative Director of Experiential Marketing at Outside. They dive deep into the concept of marketing as a laboratory and how it can be a powerful tool in forging new models for outdoor gatherings. Robert shares insights from the inaugural Outside Festival, revealing the creative processes and challenges behind this innovative event.
Key Topics Covered:
Marketing as a Laboratory: Robert discusses how marketing can be used as a space for experimentation, risk-taking, and innovation, particularly in the outdoor industry.
The Power of Outdoor Gatherings: The episode explores the transformative impact of the Outside Festival, not just as an event, but as a movement to reconnect people with nature.
Cultural Pain Points: Robert highlights the growing issues of loneliness and disconnection in modern society, and how outdoor experiences can serve as a remedy.
Creating Magic Through Community: Discover the magic formula of "Nature + Community = Magic," and how it guided the creative direction of the festival.
Behind the Scenes: Robert provides a behind-the-scenes look at the challenges and successes of organizing a large-scale outdoor event, including critical feedback and the lessons learned.
The Role of Joy in the Outdoors: The importance of joy as a motivator for getting people outside and how it influences the creative strategy for future events.
Learn More About the Outside Festival:
Website: Outside Festival
About the Backcountry Marketing PodcastThis podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. If you need help bringing your next video project to life, check out our website to learn more. If not, head over to the podcast website for more details, show notes, transcripts, recommended book readings, and other resources:
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In this conversation, Cole and Drew Pautler, Founder and Creative Director of Good Fortune Collective, discuss a thought-provoking topic: what can the outdoor industry learn from mainstream sports?
In this episode, Drew and Cole dive deep into the nuances of cultural participation, community building and newsworthy headlines. They explore how mainstream sports like football, basketball, and tennis have managed to captivate massive audiences and create passionate fanbases. Drew shares insights on the importance of making outdoor sports more inclusive and accessible, shedding light on the potential of community-driven strategies to grow the industry.
Listen as they discuss:
The psychological and emotional connections that sports fans have with their favorite teams and players.
The success stories of brands like Nike and Lululemon in integrating into mainstream culture.
The impact of media and storytelling, with examples like the "Free Solo" documentary and the "Drive to Survive" series.
Practical steps the outdoor industry can take to attract more participants and fans.
The significance of innovation and accessibility in fostering a larger, more diverse community.
Links and Resources:
Good Fortune Collective: Website
Contact Drew at: [email protected]
Follow Backcountry Marketing on LinkedIn
Have a topic or guest you’d like to hear on the show? Let us know here
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. Check out our website for insights and how we’ve helped other marketers move the needle through our work.
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In this conversation, Cole and Fitz Cahall, the Creative Director at Duct Tape Then Beer and The Dirt Bag Diaries, discuss the current upheaval in the marketing and media world, emphasizing the impact of fractured audiences, AI, and the shift towards niche content. He explores the challenges and opportunities for creators, brands, and consumers in this evolving landscape. The conversation delves into the importance of storytelling in marketing, the value of curiosity, and the need for long-term vision in brand narratives.
Takeaways
The current marketing and media world is experiencing a significant upheaval, marked by fractured audiences and the impact of AI.
The shift towards niche content and the challenges it presents for creators, brands, and consumers is a key theme in the conversation.
The evolving landscape of marketing and media presents both challenges and opportunities for those involved, requiring a reevaluation of strategies and approaches.
The significance of considering brand values and the role of storytelling in marketing, as well as the need for a strategic approach during challenging times.
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together. Have a topic or guest you’d like to hear on the show? Let us know here
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. Check out our website for insights and how we’ve helped other marketers move the needle through our work.
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In this conversation, Cole and Diana Ochenrider, the Senior Director of Digital Media, at Backbone Media discuss the changes in performance marketing and what marketers can expect as the industry adapts to privacy laws and cookie deprecation. She shares insight into the balance between brand and performance, a holistic understanding of consumers, and new solutions that might replace cookies.
Takeaways
The deprecation of cookies presents challenges for targeting and measurement, requiring marketers to find new solutions and approaches.
Taking a holistic approach to marketing, focusing on brand building and connecting with audiences, is crucial in the changing digital ecosystem.
Measurement in the future will rely on a combination of approaches, including multi-touch attribution, MMM models, and incrementality
Creativity and storytelling will play a significant role in marketing
A holistic approach to marketing, considering all touchpoints, is essential
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together. Have a topic or guest you’d like to hear on the show? Let us know here
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. Check out our website for insights and how we’ve helped other marketers move the needle through our work.
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In this conversation, Cole and Brian Rodine discuss cause marketing from the perspective of a nonprofit organization. Brian is the Director of Marketing and Trailhead Program Manager at Friends of the Colorado Avalanche Information Center. They explore the importance of aligning goals and values between nonprofits and brands and the challenges of navigating partnerships that maximize value for the non-profit and the brand.
Takeaways
Aligning goals and values is crucial for successful cause marketing partnerships between nonprofits and brands.
The outdoor industry audience tends to be more discerning and values-driven, requiring genuine and meaningful cause marketing efforts.
Communication and alignment within a brand's different departments are essential for effective cause marketing strategies. Authentic partnerships between brands and nonprofits require open communication and shared goals.
Cross-pollination between brand and nonprofit audiences can amplify messages and reach a wider audience.
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together. Have a topic or guest you’d like to hear on the show? Let us know here
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. Check out our website for insights and how we’ve helped other marketers move the needle through our work.
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In this episode, Cole sits down with Niclas Bornling, an outdoor industry veteran, to discuss the challenges faced by outdoor brands. They explore the lessons to be learned from the decline of brands like Quicksilver and DC Shoes in the early 2000s and how those lessons can be applied to the current state of the industry. They highlight the importance of understanding the evolving consumer landscape and the need for brands to adapt to the changing preferences and cultural references of younger generations.
Takeaways:
Outdoor brands need to understand and adapt to the evolving consumer landscape, particularly the preferences and cultural references of younger generations.
The decline of brands like Quicksilver and DC Shoes in the early 2000s serves as a lesson for the current state of the industry.
The GorpCore trend, while currently popular, may not last forever, and brands should not rely solely on its success.
Telling relevant stories and offering solutions that resonate with the evolving audience is crucial for the success of outdoor brands. Understanding and connecting with a specific audience is crucial in marketing.
Brands should surround themselves with diverse perspectives to stay relevant and adapt to the changing cultural landscape.
Knowing your audience and telling meaningful, relevant stories is key to building a successful brand.
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In this episode, Kyle Duford, President and Executive Creative Director at The Brand Leader, discusses the needs of Gen Z and how brands can connect with this generation. He shares the seven needs that Gen Z is looking for, including trust, grace, empathy, acceptance, rituals and recognition, vulnerability, and transparency.
Takeaways
Gen Z has unique needs that brands should address, including trust, grace, empathy, acceptance, rituals and recognition, vulnerability, and transparency.
Emotional connection is crucial in marketing, and brands should strive to create meaningful experiences for Gen Z.
Gen Z is the most hyperconnected yet disconnected generation, and brands have the opportunity to be a source of connection and meaning in their lives.
The advertising landscape has evolved significantly, with numerous channels and touchpoints available to reach consumers.
Trust is a crucial factor for Gen Z, and brands need to earn their trust through transparency and authenticity.
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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Welcome to a bonus episode! In this episode host Cole Heilborn takes us out of the studio and into the vibrant atmosphere of the Mountainfilm Festival in Telluride, Colorado. Join him as he navigates questions like: What is the role of storytelling in marketing today, especially in 2024? How do economic changes and budget cuts impact the value and approach to storytelling? What are the perspectives of filmmakers and brands on the importance of storytelling amidst industry challenges?
In this episode you'll hear from filmmakers Roo Smith, Greg Balkin, and the Global Media Director from The North Face, Biz Young.
Episode Takeaways:
The evolving role of storytelling in marketing and its significance in the outdoor industry. The impact of economic changes on marketing budgets and the need for creative storytelling solutions. Insights from industry experts on balancing qualitative storytelling impact with the demand for quantifiable metrics. The importance of embracing ambiguity and navigating uncharted waters in storytelling and marketing. The future trends and opportunities for storytelling in a rapidly changing industry landscape//
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. Check out our website for insights and how we’ve helped other marketers move the needle through our work.
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In this conversation, Cole and Brad Stevenson, CEO of Premiums for the Planet, discuss how insurance can be a powerful tool for driving change in the climate and social justice movements. Premiums for the Planet is an organization that harnesses the power of insurance and insurers to create a regenerative and just planet. They work with businesses to redirect their insurance premiums to carriers that are more socially and environmentally conscious. By organizing insurance spend and influencing of climate-conscious organizations, they aim to shift the demand dynamics for insurance carriers and drive systems change
Brad joins the conversation to share how he and his team are creating grassroots movement change to inspire a stale industry into a force for good.
Takeaways
Insurance can be a powerful tool for driving change in the climate and social justice movements.
By organizing the insurance spend and influence of climate-conscious organizations, they aim to shift the demand dynamics for insurance carriers and drive systems change.
They distinguish between marketing and movement building, emphasizing the importance of language and behavior change.
The effort it takes to build a movement
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together. Have a topic or guest you’d like to hear on the show? Let us know here
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes great marketing is great storytelling and after 150+ podcast episodes with marketing pros and 9 years of producing commercials and documentaries outside, we've noticed a few things about what it takes to create video work that makes an impact. Check out our website for insights and how we’ve helped other marketers move the needle through our work.
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In this episode, Erin Keane, the VP of Marketing for Ikon Pass and Alterra Mountain Company discusses the power of relationships in the workplace and how great marketing is achieved by collaboration with others. She shares how relationships have been the key to her success and emphasizes the importance of building authentic relationships based on trust and shared goals. She provides tips for building and maintaining relationships and also discusses the challenge of managing a large network of relationships and the importance of prioritizing meaningful connections.
Takeaways
Building authentic relationships based on trust and shared goals is key to success in the workplace.
Consistent communication and finding opportunities to reach out without asking for anything in return are important for maintaining relationships.
Being open to different communication styles and adapting your approach to meet the needs of others can strengthen relationships.
Managing a large network of relationships requires prioritization and finding meaningful ways to stay connected. Building and maintaining relationships in the workplace is crucial for job satisfaction and productivity.
Consistency, communication, and trust are key elements in establishing authentic connections.
Even with limited time, individuals can make small efforts to build and maintain relationships.
Relationships provide support and make it easier to navigate conflicts and challenges.
Investing in relationships without expecting a transactional exchange leads to more meaningful connections.
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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What do democracy and Marvel both have in common? They both understand their audience.
I think all marketers agree that storytelling is a key part of marketing. But there seems to be a disconnect between telling stories and leveraging those stories into needle moving impact. In this episode, Cole shares some thoughts about the missing link between storytelling and impact.
Takeaways
- Storytelling is an integral part of marketing, but there is often uncertainty about how to use stories effectively to drive impact.
- Insights about the audience help inform storytelling and make stories relatable.
- Performance marketing can amplify stories and lead to amazing results.
- Marketers should strive for a deeper understanding of their audience and continue refining their storytelling skills.//
These Fireside Chats are short discussions where we'll delve into the heart of storytelling and its pivotal role in today's marketing landscape. In these short episodes, we'll explore the art of storytelling, and uncover the insights to help you craft narratives that captivate, resonate, and leave a lasting impact on your brand.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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In this episode, Mike Rogge, the owner and editor of Mountain Gazette, discusses the importance of understanding and caring about your audience. He shares insights on how niche media companies can solve many of the challenges faced by media companies today by staying focused on their audience. Mike also emphasizes the value of knowing your audience in storytelling and content creation. He highlights the role of empathy in connecting with the audience and the importance of execution in delivering quality content. The conversation concludes with key takeaways for listeners to apply to their own projects and ideas.
Takeaways
Niche media companies can overcome challenges by staying focused on their audience.
Knowing your audience is crucial in storytelling and content creation.
Empathy is the key to connecting with the audience.
Caring about your audience leads to quality content and community-building
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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What role does storytelling play as a solution to some of the tectonic forces at play in the outdoor industry? Does it play a role? In this episode, Cole discusses the role of storytelling in the future of the outdoor industry. He explores some of the problems and challenges faced by the industry and how storytelling can be a tool to overcome them.
Takeaways
Storytelling is a powerful tool for brands in the outdoor industry to differentiate themselves in a sea of sameness.
- Creativity and strong storytelling are essential in digital marketing, especially as privacy laws restrict targeting capabilities.
- Brands have the potential to provide meaningful connection for Generation Z, who are the most connected yet unconnected generation.
- As AI tools make content creation more accessible, high-quality storytelling will become even more important to stand out from the noise.
- The outdoor industry is facing a decline and needs to reach new audiences by telling stories that resonate with different demographics.//
These Fireside Chats are short discussions where we'll delve into the heart of storytelling and its pivotal role in today's marketing landscape. In these short episodes, we'll explore the art of storytelling, and uncover the insights to help you craft narratives that captivate, resonate, and leave a lasting impact on your brand.
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Curious how your brand’s storytelling efforts stack up? Take this 9-question quiz to evaluate the health of your brand storytelling.
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There’s a forest fire blazing through our industry right now. While destructive, forest fires bring new growth and a healthy environment. In this episode, Josh Weichhand, Vice President of Global Brand Marketing at Rumpl, talks about this inflection point and the changes happening in the outdoor industry.
Takeaways
Inflection points in the outdoor industry are disruptive but can lead to positive change and growth.
The industry has faced challenges due to the pandemic, inventory saturation, and the entry of fashion brands.
Brand differentiation and values are becoming increasingly important in a crowded market.
Challenger brands may face challenges but also have opportunities to make their mark in the industry. The outdoor industry faces challenges in operating and accessing supply chains, especially during uncertain times.
Consolidation and shakeups are happening among big players in the industry, leading to potential changes in the landscape.
Brands need to make strategic decisions and consider their growth plans, taking into account market conditions and consumer demand.
Focus and discipline are crucial for brand development, allowing brands to cater to their core consumers and create meaningful products.
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What makes a compelling story?
There are two ingredients that are crucial to a good story and in this Fireside episode, Cole shares some insights he noticed while attending the premiere of Port Side Production's latest feature documentary film with Athletic Brewing Company.
Check out the film "Inches to Miles"
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These Fireside Chats are short discussions where we'll delve into the heart of storytelling and its pivotal role in today's marketing landscape. In these short episodes, we'll explore the art of storytelling, and uncover the insights to help you craft narratives that captivate, resonate, and leave a lasting impact on your brand.
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Curious how your brand’s storytelling efforts stack up? Take this 9-question quiz to evaluate the health of your brand storytelling.
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In this episode, Matt Powell shares insights and observations about the economic state of the outdoor industry. It’s common news that the COVID boom than bust has spun the industry into a downward spiral but Matt sheds some new light into the predicament as well as opportunities that could break the industry out of its spiral.
Matt has 51 years of experience in the retail industry and currently advises outdoor + athletic businesses based on data and insights.
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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An interview is the bedrock of storytelling. It has the potential to make or break the content that’s being produced. In this episode, Cole Heilborn shares tips and tricks after running hundreds of interviews for leading brands in the outdoor industry.
Takeaways
-Preparation and casting are crucial for successful interviews.
- Active listening and asking follow-up questions are essential.
- Interviewers should balance managing and restraining the conversation.
- Creative liberty can be used while honoring the truth of the interviewee's story.
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These Fireside Chats are short discussions where we'll delve into the heart of storytelling and its pivotal role in today's marketing landscape. In these short episodes, we'll explore the art of storytelling, and uncover the insights to help you craft narratives that captivate, resonate, and leave a lasting impact on your brand.
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Curious how your brand’s storytelling efforts stack up? Take this 9-question quiz to evaluate the health of your brand storytelling.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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Everyone wants to get outside. Time and time again we see headlines about overtourism and the downsides of destination towns being flooded with people. What role does marketing play in fixing this problem? Is marketing to blame? Kylie Kullack is the Head of Client Engagement at STRUCK, STRUCK is an agency that has seen tremendous success driving people to tourist destinations around Utah and in this episode, Kylie shares insights about this evolving conversation from the front lines.
In this episode, Cole and Kylie discuss:
The future of healthy tourism
Measuring resident sentiment
Changing KPIs of tourism success
AI and tourism
Marketings role in this problem
You can catch up with Kylie here and learn more about STRUCK here.
If you like what you’re hearing, feel free to leave us a review on Apple or Spotify. It helps more people like you find the show. Let’s help everyone learn together.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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What is the value of a loyal audience?
This is a big question that many brands ask themselves as they evaluate whether or not to pursue brand storytelling. In this episode, we explore the dollars and cents of customer loyalty, how brand storytelling builds loyalty with an audience, and how the countless decisions in the filmmaking process are opportunities to either build or break trust with a brand's audience. Takeaways- Brand storytelling helps differentiate a brand and build an engaged and loyal audience.
- Building trust through brand storytelling can have a significant impact on a brand's bottom line.
- Transitive trust is a powerful tool in brand storytelling, where trust in characters on screen translates to trust in the brand.
- Resonating with the audience, choosing appropriate locations, ensuring authenticity, and paying attention to supporting details are crucial in building trust through brand storytelling.
Chapters 00:37 - The Value of Being Different 01:31 - The ROI of Loyalty through Brand Storytelling 03:25 - The Impact of Loyalty on the Bottom Line 04:24 - Transitive Trust in Brand Storytelling 05:49 - Opportunities to Build Trust in Brand Storytelling 06:44 - Resonating with the Audience 07:41 - Choosing Locations that Resonate 08:07 - Authenticity in Brand Storytelling 09:03 - Supporting Details in Brand Storytelling 10:00 - The Importance of Asking the Right Questions//
These Fireside Chats are short discussions where we'll delve into the heart of storytelling and its pivotal role in today's marketing landscape. In these short episodes, we'll explore the art of storytelling, and uncover the insights to help you craft narratives that captivate, resonate, and leave a lasting impact on your brand.
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Curious how your brand’s storytelling efforts stack up? Take this 9-question quiz to evaluate the health of your brand storytelling.
This podcast is produced by Port Side Productions. We’re a video production outfit that believes stories inspire and move people through the power of emotion. We work with brands and agencies in the outdoor industry to tell stories that help brands engage, inspire, and build brand affinity with their customers. We tell stories from the wild.
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