Devra Davis--The Respected Founder of Environmental Health Trust With A Step By Step Strategy To Protect Your Family from EMF's

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Devra Davis is the widely respected research scientist who has been been calling attention to the dangers of EMF's for decades. As the founder of The Environmental Health Trust, she has sued the FCC for failing to update its safety standards since 1996 and focused on sharing her long-held conviction that EMF's affect our biology. Her book "Disconnect: The Truth About Cell Phone Radiation" was published in 2010, barely three years after the launch of the first smartphone and it remains one of the most important books on the subject. Now, Devra has updated Disconnect with over 100 pages of new updated information, based on new and updated research.

In this conversation, we talk about the book and what we can all do to best protect our families from the very threat represented by electromagnetic fields--the information carrying radio waves that power our digital devices.

Here's the book: https://www.amazon.com/Disconnect-scientists-solutions-safer-technology/dp/0988359189

Website: https://ehtrust.org/

The continually updated EMF Guide from Tech Wellness: https://techwellness.com/blogs/expertise/emf-meaning-expert-guide-what-is-effects-on-body

EMF Protection Solutions from Tech Wellness: https://techwellness.com/collections/best-emf-protection

Here is the transcript of our discussion. Be Well!

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AUGUST: [00:00:00] Hey there, welcome to Thriving with Technology, the science led podcast that's here to help you achieve mindful living in a digital world. And I'm your host. I'm August Brice from TechWellness. com. This show is designed to give you a practical approach on how to navigate the important tech toxins in our world.
We have real life stories, experiences, and non fear based facts about cybersecurity and EMFs, your online privacy, [00:00:30] internet overuse. What leads to addiction, blue light on so much more. So thank you. Thanks for joining us and enjoy the show.
We're happy you're joining us for a very special edition of thriving with technology today. August sits down with Dr. Devra Davis, one of the first and most respected educators and [00:01:00] researchers in the EMF space. And you could say in public health in general for our generation. In fact, if you can remember the days when smoking was allowed on airplanes, you have Dr.
Davis to thank that that is just a very distant memory. Dr. Davis has authored more than 200 peer reviewed publications and written several important books on cancer, environmental pollution, and her newest, which is an update of a title first published in 2010, Disconnect, a scientist's solutions for safer [00:01:30] technology.
Dr. Davis is the founder of the Environmental Health Trust, one of the leading forces in EMF research, education, and advocacy, working to reform the laws that govern our exposure to EMF. There's a lot of wisdom in this episode. You won't want to miss a minute. Here's August. Okay. Devra Davis. Hello. Hello, August.
What an honor. I cannot thank you enough for being with me today. I am so excited to [00:02:00] share the new book. I'm excited to talk about everything that's happened since the original Disconnect was published. And of course, everyone knows I'm a huge fan of the Environmental Health Trust. If you subscribe to my newsletter or if you're on my Instagram channel or Facebook, you know that I'm consistently.
sharing links to the Environmental Health Trust because of the amazing work that they are doing. And they are led by Devra Davis. Thank you so much, [00:02:30] August. I really appreciate all that you're doing. Thank you. Well, we've both been in this space for so long. I first discovered that I was sensitive to EMF in about 1992.
And I know that your first book was published in 2010, but I was following your work before then you were publishing, you were doing research. You've led so much important research. And you know, Devra, I see myself as the [00:03:00] reporter and the communicator, and I see you as the educator and the scientist and together getting this information out.
Is wildly important and even more important today. I fully agree with you and I want to tell you, uh, I haven't been doing this alone. Uh, we've had an executive director, Theodora Scorato, and we're now bringing in, uh, three new people and reorganizing the Environmental Health Trust. Oh! I'm going to be stepping out as president, and [00:03:30] in my place will be Kent Chamberlain, who is professor and chairman emeritus of the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at the University of New Hampshire.
And we will have a vice president for and general counsel, Joe Sandry, who is rather experienced with, um, Going toe to toe with the FCC and winning, as he helped us win our lawsuit that we can talk about in just a moment. Yes. And we'll have a new vice president for science and clinical affairs, who is a [00:04:00] diagnostic radiologist with three decades of experience as a senior radiologist and member of the American College of Radiology, Rob Brown.
And we will of course have Theodora Scorato, who has been absolutely critical to what I've been doing over the past decade. She will become vice president for policy outreach and education. Uh, and we're going to have a great new expanded team, but I want to say it takes a [00:04:30] village. And August, you've been a really critical part of that village for us.
Oh, thank you, Devra. Thank you. It's always my honor to tell people about the Environmental Health Trust and especially your work. And you know, we've had Theodora on the podcast before, but this is such a big deal because of the book and congratulations on the expansion. Of environmental health trust. I know all the people that you're talking about and to have someone who was really central in the industry now on your team.[00:05:00]
I can't wait to see what happens next. It can only be bigger, better, amazing. And so important for. Really the entire world. Thank you for doing this. Well, it's mutual August. It really is. Okay. So, you know, Devra, I have to tell everyone, and I explained this a little bit in the interview, but every time I get on a plane, I do think about you.
And I think, wow, if Devra, Hadn't done what Devra does, I might be [00:05:30] sitting next to someone and not just worrying about the secondhand Wi Fi radiation, but also worrying about the secondhand smoke. Can you tell us a little bit about why that change, why there's no smoke in airplanes? Well, in 1983, I was a young executive director of the Board on Environmental Studies and Toxicology at the U.
S. National Academy of Sciences. It's a And, uh, Senator Hayakawa from Hawaii wondered why he kept getting colds whenever he flew on [00:06:00] airplanes. Long flights. Many of your listeners may be shocked to know that smoking was allowed on airplanes. And he wondered about what that meant for his breathing. We, at the National Academy of Sciences, um, I organized a team, put together the first study that actually concluded that smoking was not a good idea for the plane.
Thank you for listening. because it gummed up the electronics, by the way. And by the way, it also affected the respiratory [00:06:30] tract of flight attendants and anyone else. What I did personally, and I tell this in my, uh, second book, which was called the secret history of the war on cancer. I took a small machine that looked frankly, like a bomb onto the, onto a long transatlantic flight.
And I went, in the smoking section and the non smoking section throughout the flight. By the end of the flight, I had a little congestion, as I have right now, [00:07:00] because I was able to show that by the end of the flight, even though there was a smoking section and a non smoking section, that the quality of the air in both sections was identical, that the level of ultra fine particulates, smaller, 50 times smaller than a human hair in the air was uniform, and that there was effectively no non smoking section.
And this study then was replicated by the National Academy of Sciences, [00:07:30] and it took us a while to get the report published because the pressure from the tobacco industry. Was quite, uh, impressive and I should state people don't realize this, but at the time of the U. S. National Cancer Institute was working on developing a safe cigarette with over 10 million dollars of funding from the tobacco industry.
I did not know that. There was a lot of close collaboration with the tobacco industry and [00:08:00] Harvard and Yale. They basically had funded major research programs at some of the top schools in the world. And they were regarded as a, and they were in fact serious in their support. In fact, in the disconnect book, I tell the story of how one scientist in Berlin, desperate for funding.
Became a major researcher for the tobacco industry in Germany. And when [00:08:30] he first reported that he thought that tobacco might actually cause cancer, they said, Hey, we'd like to give you another project to work on. We don't think you need to work on that anymore. , and they gave in the redirect, they gave in the project.
of studying cell phone radiation. And this was Franz Adelkofer. He studied cell phone radiation, a major multi laboratory, multi million dollar study for the European Union. And in 2002, he produced results. [00:09:00] Contrary to all of their expectations, including his own, he showed That cell phone radiation could in fact damage the brain cells in animals and could damage DNA.
He showed that. Right. So that result was world changing except that the industry made the mistake of challenging him, uh, publicly. They tried to discredit him and because he was so prominent [00:09:30] and frankly had the resources to do this, he sued them. And just before he died. Uh, two years ago, German courts ruled that he had been correct and ordered all of the scientists and all of the industry claims that had criticized him to recant the And to stop their criticism of his results.
Now, the U S national toxicology program has since confirmed what Adolf [00:10:00] Hofer showed, namely that cell phone radiation can damage DNA. DNA is in the nucleus of every living cell of every living thing, whether plant, insect, or animal. Mammals, and of course, humans, and our DNA can be damaged by cell phone radiation.
Now that doesn't mean that we're all doomed, because the important thing for people to understand, and I know you know this, is that no matter how [00:10:30] much damage you may have incurred from exposures to cell phone radiation and to other things, like sunlight, for example, You can repair that damage through good nutrition and exercise and prayer and things that promote health and well being, and of course, avoiding and reducing exposures to the extent possible.
Right. You're talking about our body's adaptive capacity, right? Indeed. [00:11:00] For, for, yes, we come up against a lot, however, we could do a lot better if we weren't up against this radiation, right? Indeed. Absolutely. Absolutely. No doubt about it. And you know, we have a community of about 200, 000 people and they're all in different stages of their journey.
Some are on health journeys, some just want to have a healthy, happy family and do the right thing for their children. And so I. I really love to break it [00:11:30] down into bite size, non fear based solutions that we can give people, but I want you to help us understand, just like you just did, more about the research.
Give us just a couple of the, of the big, important findings that you really want everyone to know about. Well, the first thing we need to understand is that every cell In the body and we have trillions of them has a membrane around it [00:12:00] and cell phone radiation has consistently been shown to weaken membranes, whether it's the membranes around are the neurons in our brain and the blood brain barrier.
Or those affecting the membranes around, um, sperm. All of these cells are affected. And the effect can be subtle, uh, and it's not uniformly fatal, obviously not. It's the [00:12:30] long term cumulative effect that we have to be concerned about. That's, that's what we have to pay attention to. The cumulative effects of the combined exposures to many different things in the environment we cannot control.
Uh, we need to know, we need to know That the weakening, the weakening of membranes means that it's more possible for other materials in the body, whether it's lead or [00:13:00] pesticides, we might be exposed to through the foods we eat. Uh, all of those things can get more deeply absorbed into a cell if the membranes are weaker.
So overall, our bodies are being weakened when they are exposed to cell phone radiation. And we understand that it's the overall exposure, like sunlight, you can think of it, you can liken it to a sunburn. The more sun you get, the more likely you are to [00:13:30] get sunburned if you were sunburned before. And so the cumulative effect is very important.
And I'm wondering if there's any research that can help us understand the difference between direct exposure, because we tell people, don't put it in your pocket, don't put it in your bra, try to keep it out of your hands. So that's direct exposure versus, versus the full body exposure, maybe from the phone, maybe from the Wi Fi.
How do our bodies actually get affected by the [00:14:00] radiation in the environment versus up against the skin? All right. Well, first of all, sunlight is, is it interesting because you need 20 minutes a day of sunlight in order to make enough vitamin D, which is a very beneficial part component for us. So, unlike sunlight, where you need a little bit for your health, you do not need a little bit of radiation [00:14:30] for anything.
All right. It's not, it has no known benefit. I want to be clear about that. Um, the good news I want to share is that colleagues of mine in Turkey, and I have produced several studies showing that omega 3 fatty acids. Melatonin, um, can help repair damage from radiation. And we've done this in studies in cell cultures where we take cell cultures of human cells and we add [00:15:00] to them a melatonin or basically a component of omega 3 fatty acids or fish oil.
And then we expose them to cell phone radiation. And when the cells have melatonin in them, Or the omega 3 fatty acids, they get less damage than when they do not. So it's always important to understand that it's not, again, that we're doomed, but that we can repair, uh, repair that damage. [00:15:30] What happens with radiation are a number of processes, one of which is it leads to the formation of reactive oxygen species.
And you can think of these kind of like Pac Man that go around gobbling up whatever it might be free and frankly destroying it. So you want to keep your reactive oxygen species to a low level and you want to make sure you consume antioxidants that will reduce them [00:16:00] and reduce the amount of damage, uh, that they can have.
Within the system as well. It's important, particularly as, as you know, we've talked about this in my TEDx talk as well. We want to protect children because their skulls are thinner. Their brains contain more fluid, the more fluid in something, whether it's in your microwave oven or. In your breast, the more fluid something contains, the more it [00:16:30] absorbs microwave radiation.
So I just want to backtrack for a second. When we talk about melatonin, omega threes, fatty acids, the things that you talked about a moment ago, you're not recommending that parents now give their kids melatonin. I think what you're saying is let's keep the healthy production intact. Absolutely. And let me be clear, let me be clear about that.
Sleeping in the dark with [00:17:00] no electronics at all in the bedroom is important for everybody, but particularly for children, there actually is a device that they sell nowadays for infants where you put a cover over the crib. Mm-Hmm. , um, that allows them to be in total darkness. And baby in total darkness is when we naturally produce melatonin from the pineal gland.
And melatonin is a natural hormone [00:17:30] that is an antioxidant. So it repairs damage that may have happened just as a consequence of being alive. Because we can't avoid all of the things in the world that can damage ourselves. But if we are healthy and we sleep in the dark. without any electronics in our bedrooms, uh, then we will make enough melatonin naturally.
The same thing, it's best to get the cruciferous vegetables, broccoli, cauliflower, [00:18:00] etc., through, through your diet. It's best to get your omega 3 fatty acids through diet as well. Um, sometimes, however, uh, a supplement of melatonin at night can be very helpful, but those always should be Any decision about that should be made in consultation with pediatricians or doctors.
A hundred percent. I agree that we need to really, even as adults, we need to regulate our melatonin intake if we're taking it [00:18:30] exogenously because, uh, you know, you're not positive of the formulation and some people are actually sensitive to melatonin. Melatonin supplements, and it can actually change their own melatonin production.
So there's healthy, good, healthy living, so, so important. And part of good, healthy living is not just what we eat. It's also our EMF exposure and really regulating it. Correct. That's what I'm hearing from Devra. Yes, absolutely. Because, because honestly, you guys, the [00:19:00] effects can be devastating and Devra shares many stories.
On the Environmental Health Trust website and in her new book, which you must read, Deverdew. Do those stories stick with you? Which stories in particular stick with you? Well, there's some, there's some sad stories that of a, of a young man named Justin whose parents did not understand the damaging effect of EMFs, and he was a gamer at a young age, and he slept in his room with his [00:19:30] dog.
And his room was saturated, saturated with EMFs, and both he and his dog died of brain tumors. Very, very sad and unusual, and now the parents have become advocates so that other children will be spared that, that fate. Um, there's a young woman we lost this year, Tiffany, who developed a breast cancer when she was 21, right [00:20:00] under where she had stored her phone in her bra.
proudly from the time she was 12 or 13. And the breast tumors developed right under where the antenna of the phone had radiated her breast. She died after almost a decade of repeated surgeries to try to spare her. But she was first diagnosed, unfortunately, with advanced disease because [00:20:30] nobody believed a 21 year old boop!
cancer. That's an extraordinary, extraordinary. And she had no risk factors for the disease. She did not carry any of the genetic variants and put you at risk of the disease at all. So these are unfortunately warnings for the rest of us at the same time. I'm happy to report that there are some couples I've counseled.
Who were having difficulty getting pregnant and in one case when [00:21:00] the fellows stopped carrying his two phones in two pockets, um, they were able to get pregnant within three months, but no one had ever told him that a phone in the pocket. Could damage his firm. And that therein lies the rub. That's the issue.
You know, Canada, our largest trading partner and environmental health trust published this and our next door neighbor says that reducing EMF is part of their bio initiative 2030. [00:21:30] It's amazing. But meanwhile, our FDA, our FCC, uh, cell phone manufacturers tell us there's nothing to worry about. It's not a problem.
It's all about stronger, faster signals. So Devra, what's wrong with us? We need to do a better job of what you're doing. You are, you are really leading the way here. We need every parent, every grandparent to demand the right to buy safer [00:22:00] products. There's no reason. Why routers should be on 24 7. Frankly, there's no reason we actually need Wi Fi in our homes for the most part.
You can, as you and I are both wired with Ethernet cables, we are faster, we're safer from hacking, we're more secure, and it's healthier. So all of those things are a benefit and we need to do a better job of educating people. If you go to our , which is ehtrust. [00:22:30] org, our website includes practical advice about safe tech at home and what you can do to make a safer home environment.
And we're working with other Programs like TechSafe Schools, which I'm a scientific advisor to, and there's specific advice that we have on our website that is on theirs as well, how you can promote safer technology in schools. We know from a recent [00:23:00] fabulous book that has just been written, um, on the anxiety generation.
Right, the anxious generation. Yes, the anxious generation. Thank you. We know that what that is doing to our children is depriving them of play. And when, when the moment you give a child a smartphone, you have ended their childhood. I agree. I'm absolutely writing about that right now. And you know, you know, Devra, the interesting thing is you couple that.
You [00:23:30] layer on the electromagnetic fields and the physical damage that, you know, you look at the brains of children exposed to EMF and you look at the brains of children looking, looking at screens. Very similar. Uh. you know, findings of less gray matter and different places of hyperactivity. So we know that both of these things are working together to affect our children's brains.
And I am always floored because, you know, [00:24:00] I carry a meter with me wherever I go. I determine where I'm sitting at a restaurant. I determine where I'm going to go for a walk. I have that meter get me into a low radiation zone. so that my body can operate at its fullest. So I'm shocked when I go by school still to this day, uh, and see that the radiation is the highest level in the community because they've, they've got the tower either right across the street from the school or on the school [00:24:30] property.
They're making money from, you know, renting out a space for a cell phone tower. And plus every school is Completely run by wifi and kids are given their own laptops to use at school and then to take home. I mean, kids. I just, my body aches for children trying to survive in this soup of radiation. You're absolutely correct, and I [00:25:00] think that we can work together, uh, that's in fact what some of the new initiatives that we're going to be developing with the new team at Environmental Health Trust.
We, in the, in the new edition of the book that we just released, Disconnect, A Scientist's Solutions for Safer Technology, we discuss the fact. The way antennas are located in our schools would be illegal in Israel and Switzerland. Yes, in other high tech [00:25:30] countries, it is against the law to have antennas directly on schools.
And yet our schools, who are so desperate for money, Do not understand that they take the money for the antennas, but they're compromising the quality of the brains and bodies of the children as a result. So we've got to do, yes. Yes. To that point, I consult with moms and They, many of them have, you know, [00:26:00] they're torn because they don't want to be the nagging naysayer at their school.
They understand there's a huge issue and I point them to the, some of the posters that you have and the documents that you have and the letters that you have. Can you give us just one or two examples of schools that have been successful and parents who have been successful in having a cell tower removed?
Or relocated. Well, there are on our [00:26:30] website, there are many examples and they keep changing, you know, I mean, um, and unfortunately, um, it's a little bit like whack and old, um, Pittsfield, they, they successfully, um, have thought against, um, an antenna being constructed there. And there's efforts ongoing right now in, in Connecticut, it's in several school systems as well.
And I think that what we did with our lawsuit, I want to take a moment and just [00:27:00] explain that we filed a lawsuit against the FCC, a little bit like David and Goliath. Yes. In which we said, look, Your standards for testing phones and all of these devices were set now 27 years ago, using 20th century technology for 21st, to evaluate 21st century technology.
That makes no sense. That makes absolutely no sense. And so, in addition, we pointed out that there was growing [00:27:30] evidence of damaging effects on non human animals, namely pollinators. Without the honeybee, without the 2, 000 pollinating insects on which modern agriculture depends, we wouldn't have food production in around the world today.
And there is growing evidence, the modeled three dimensional image of the honeybee body is affected by 5G and by all of the wireless radiation. And we know [00:28:00] that the worldwide, there's a decline. In honeybee and other pollinating insects. And we know that neonicotinoid pesticides are a cause of that, but wireless radiation is another cause of it.
And we need to do a better job of understanding all of that. So in our lawsuit, we said, look, there's all of this data on effects on animals, on effects on children. And what are you doing about it? And the court ordered. the [00:28:30] FCC to go back and reconsider the science. The court said to the FCC, you have not considered all the record that we, Environmental Health Trust, and others have established.
Now, it's more than two years since the court issued that decision. And the FCC has done nothing. So what we need is what you can help us with here is we're creating, we're filing, in fact, next week, we are [00:29:00] filing a demand that the FCC respond to the court orders because they have not. They've just ignored it because there's such an arrogant agency.
They can ignore the fact that the court said, do this, fix it, stop using outdated technology to evaluate technology that is just being invented today. So why do you have to file again? Isn't the court, doesn't the court have power to do something on [00:29:30] its own? You know, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know the answer to your question, it's a good question, um, but I think that the answer is this, the FCC is a huge agency, and they operate as an almost like a super constitutional, they basically ignore the law, and until they're going to be held accountable, nothing can happen.
Wow. Uh, you know, there's a couple of things I want to, first of all, congratulations [00:30:00] on the victory. Stunning. Important. Victory. Uh, we're behind you. Anything that we can do? Are you looking for letters? Are you looking for just spreading the awareness that the lawsuit happened and that the FCC isn't addressing it?
You know, I will ask the attorneys that are proceeding now, and in fact, our new general counsel, exactly what else could be supportive of what we're doing here, because I don't know, but I do know this. The only thing that's going to make a change is when we force the industry to [00:30:30] compete on safety. We want them to compete with giving us safer products.
Let me give you just one example. If you have a router in your home, it should go to sleep. As the default mode, it should only be working when you need it. We do not need these signals beaming. 24 seven. There's no way. Yes, and Devra, our, our most popular item is our Wi Fi kill switch. And we also sell the low power Wi Fi and we also sell a [00:31:00] Wi Fi Faraday box.
All really good solutions to lowering the EMF of my favorite. It's just snap it off whenever you're not using it, totally unnecessary to have it spewing that radiation. And I have not looked, nor do I endorse specific products, but I know that there is one from a, a low wifi router from the Netherlands, I think.
Yeah. And one made here in the United States. Oh, well, I'll take a look at that. Yes, we offer both. And I actually, the truth [00:31:30] is many people who buy the low EMF wifi that shuts off when it's not being used have issues because it powers some of their wireless things in their, their homes. Like there. They're, uh, security systems.
So this, the other one is just low, low enough so that we're not spewing as much of that toxic energy, but so enough power to not turn off those important things in people's homes. Meanwhile. [00:32:00] I'm just like you. I'm all about hardwiring. We focus on creating low EMF sanctuaries because that's where we can control the energy in our homes.
But I want to tell you right now that I have been speaking with Theodora about supplying the hardwiring to a school. I want to have a model school where we hardwire the school, we provide the, the, Adapters and dongles that we manufacture, the cabling that's EMF free that we [00:32:30] manufacture, that's grounded, um, and we can even, I know, I'm not even gonna say it, we're not gonna put any low Wi Fi routers in there, low power routers, we're not gonna have any routers, we're gonna be a completely wired school, and then we're gonna talk to people about how it feels and how it works.
Well, that sounds like a great idea. We, Theodore and I have talked about this for some time. We've had some progress with a few schools, and then what usually happens is they bring in a new IT guy who doesn't [00:33:00] understand what we're trying to do, and then we have to go back all over again. So it's, it's, it's a constant struggle and I'm really, I'm really delighted that you've been on the case now for quite a while.
Quite a while. Yes. Yes. We've been offering a hard, I think we offered our first adapter 10 years ago, uh, because, because I'm sensitive because this is my life. This is how I actually am required to live, to sleep in the canopy, you know, to have the paint. If [00:33:30] a, if a neighbor moves in, just the things that.
That I have to do to feel good. And fortunately, I can feel these things instantly. And so I am so with you for people and, and I was so excited. You guys have to read the book to find out that there are options for safer phones that have even been discussed for 20, 30 years. Yes, yes. And, and the technology exists, the patents [00:34:00] already are there.
We simply need what, what I call, we need girlcotts. A boycott means no. Okay? Boycott means we're not going to buy your wine if, if it's made by illegal, by people who are working without toilets and without healthcare. That's a boycott, right? A girl cot means we want the right to buy safer products. We wanna be able to buy safer things.
We want our schools to be safer for our [00:34:30] children. That means no lead in the drinking water. That means wiring the systems so that they, we want our kids to be computer citizens, but we don't want them to be e zombies. Exactly. I love that. I'm for it. Let's do it. And, you know, we have to talk about this because you do, you sort of mention it in the book because people are looking for solutions.
And since I've been in this space for so long, back in the nineties, seriously guys, people were [00:35:00] offering chips for your phones, shields, shielding cloths. I got my first shielding cloth in 2005. And interestingly, I, I. A girlfriend and I held it up against, we were about 15 feet from the microwave. Then we got closer and closer and closer to the microwave and then the microwave, it was just too much energy back on itself and we broke the microwave.
This was at my office. So I have been experimenting with shielding, partial shielding for a very long time. You mention it and I just need to [00:35:30] know, do you use partial shielding or harmonizers or chips or any of the gadgets that have come along? calling themselves EMF protection. I generally do not use any of them because I think the safest policy is distance is your friend and turning things off, frankly.
And I, I'm not in a position to evaluate whether they work as you know, very well. Some of them may work. Some of them may not. So I generally [00:36:00] try to reduce exposures, but with respect to a question you asked me before, I want to make sure we. We point this out in the new book as well. Several governments have banned Wi Fi for children, for young children.
In France, it's banned in kindergarten, it's restricted, uh, in high schools. Cell phones are illegal. For children in elementary and middle middle schools in France in Cyprus. They've removed [00:36:30] Wi Fi from elementary classrooms. Belgium has banned cell phones for for for young children and Israel has also banned them in what in nursery schools and restricted it in in elementary schools and a number of other areas help French Polynesia has also.
So there's a number of places around the world that. are moving toward to eliminate or reduce exposures and the European Parliament [00:37:00] a long time ago, I think it was 2011 called on the governments to take measures to reduce exposures, especially in the environment of children. So there's a huge worldwide call.
Um, in Spain. I'm working now with people in Argentina. Um, in the United States, we have made some progress. Um, certainly the Maryland State Children's Environmental Health, um, Council issued advice and of course, you know, about the New Hampshire [00:37:30] Commission on 5G. And that is something that Kent Chamberlain, our new president, has played a major role with.
And then, you've also, I'm sure, discussed what's going on in Petaluma. Yes. And I, I do want to say though, what you've just, all that information you gave us about other countries and maybe some of the things that we're doing in this country, these are simple, clear directives and solutions that are so easy to incorporate.
It's easy to say off. [00:38:00] It's easy to say no for our children's sake. Wouldn't you agree? Uh, yes, absolutely. And there are some schools that have taken the steps to implement some of the things that you provide. I went on your website like special plugs so that the wireless antennas are off, except when the teacher decides that they might need to use them and they teach students to turn off the wireless on their devices so that the students devices themselves have them off.
And there's [00:38:30] a list of schools on our website. of schools that have reduced or removed Wi Fi. And I don't, I'm not going to go through it, but some of them are Waldorf schools, of course. Of course. That's where, where we started at a Waldorf school. And, you know, I think that this is just great ammunition for parents who, who are interested and concerned, but not really exactly sure.
How to be a, you know, low key activist, and they don't really want to be, they just want, like you said, they want a girlcott. [00:39:00] They just want the safer solution because they love their children and their families and they want to give everybody the best opportunity for health and well being. And one thing that's really important for everybody is to disconnect from all of these devices at least one hour before bedtime in any form of screen.
That really is, is important. But the other thing I would, I would add is that distance is your friend. And when it comes to the laptops that are [00:39:30] assigned to children in schools, they don't call them laptops anymore. They call them tablets, Chromebooks. And the reason is they belong on tables. They do not belong on laps.
They should not be held on the body. And that basic hygiene is so important. They should be wired. Yeah. Yes. A hundred percent. And I do, I do want to mention at this point that when it comes to putting a device on your lap and [00:40:00] putting a quote unquote shield underneath it, you must remember two things. One, that you're only shielding the area that you're covering.
And if you look down, it's most likely the top of your legs. And then secondarily. Where is that energy going? I, I always, uh, use the metaphor of smoke because smoke doesn't get absorbed, neither does EMF radiation, it gets reflected. So where is it going? Is this radiation that's [00:40:30] coming from that thing on your lap?
Is it going to your thyroid, to your brain, to your eyes? And If it's so, is that okay? I don't, I don't think so. I think that the really great solution, and that's easy if you must still have wifi, is to connect a keyboard, a wired keyboard. There's these little ports and all of the devices that you can connect and then push that away.
Because distance is your friend. Yes. Push [00:41:00] that device away from you, get it further away from you. And of course your wired keyboard won't have radiation coming from it because it's wired. So anyway, yeah, I love these solutions. And I did want to get back to one question from your, your, uh, incredible research, direct exposure versus full body exposure.
Do we know how our bodies intake this invisible smoke if you, if you will, for that comparison, It's [00:41:30] happening and it's, you know, an inch away from us and it's, you know, across the room from us or it's next to us. Is that different from it actually touching our bodies? Is there a big difference? Well, the answer is we don't know for sure, but use your common sense.
You will be exposed. If you are getting general body exposure, [00:42:00] it's not a good thing. It should be avoided to the extent that you can. The direct exposure of something on your body is the one that you want to avoid first of all, but there is a cumulative effect over a lifetime that particularly for our children of thousands of hours of use and exposures as we are saturated in our general environment with many of these.
And because of that fact, it's really important to reduce exposure whenever you [00:42:30] can. And so there are a number of Schools like the Castle Hill High School that have taken steps to do this, but you're asking a question that we don't have the answer to. So the precautionary principle, right? You got it.
Bingo. Bingo. And we want to work with more and more parents like they have done in schools in Australia and all over the world. to explain that just like you would never dose your children with chemicals and [00:43:00] pesticides, you shouldn't be dosing them with an environment full of wireless radiation. And in addition to schools or separate from schools, how can we help make larger scale change?
outside of our homes. People look and ask that question. And what's your, what's your number one go to for that answer? Do they go to city council meetings? Do they start a blog of their own? Do they tell their neighbor? What's, what's the most important thing [00:43:30] Uh, tactic we want people to get educated, motivated and activated.
They get educated by looking at our website at trust on org by looking at what information you have developed, including. You have an incredible array of podcasts that I had not listened to all of them, but I know that all of the ones with Theodora are terrific and and and CeCe Doucette is also a [00:44:00] very knowledgeable educator as well.
And so get educated. And then share the education with your neighbors and friends, then get motivated because once people come together, they can organize at the local level, you start out with your school boards and with your local town council and create zones where there is reduced exposure and we want to move toward no exposure.
What I believe will be [00:44:30] the model, and this is my hope is just like we did with smoking. Longer would anybody dream of lighting a cigarette inside a school and smoking. And yet, 30, 40 years ago, that was okay. And teachers were allowed to take smoking breaks and had smoking rooms. That is no longer the case.
I believe we will have zones with no Wi Fi radiation and that we will [00:45:00] start out with creating them again for children and then for everybody else. And there are some models of that around the world. In Cyprus, they have no Wi Fi in the intensive care units. For newborns, and that's a start. That's hospitals.
As you know, our hospitals can be saturated hot beds. Absolutely. The same is true of airports. So I thought that we need to [00:45:30] start a move for low and no EMS zones. So that people like you can be more comfortable in public, you know. I agree. I think that, that we should share them on a website, you know, like Antenna Search.
It's now Antenna Search. Sadly, sadly, it still works, but it's kind of a joke because they're everywhere. Whereas they're not an antenna. Where is there a safe zone? And I'll give people just a hint, you know, typography. does affect EMF. And so if you can find a [00:46:00] particularly low guarded area, like a ravine, you'll find that your EMF exposure is less.
It's just physics. Um, so that's helpful, but I love that idea, Devra. I'll do anything to help push that forward. It's so important. We might start with that in August. We should revisit what we can do, but I think you start out with, we have to educate more people. That's why I took the time. to issue a new edition of the book.
There's 100 pages of new material, including, [00:46:30] by the way, when the book was first published in 2010, I said that I thought cell phones might cause cancer. Since then, the National Toxicology Program, the Ramazzini Institute, and Thousands of other studies have been produced, all showing that cell phone radiation can damage DNA and increase the risk of cancer in animals, and now we have more and more evidence in humans.
My position is this. [00:47:00] We study animals in order to predict effects in humans and try to prevent them from happening. We study animals to develop drugs and then use them and test them in people and continue to monitor them. If cell phones were drugs, They would be illegal because they've never been tested for safety before being used and now there's no monitoring and surveillance for effects of them.
So we need to start doing a better job of monitoring [00:47:30] what's going on in our schools. Why do we have this dramatic increase in In thyroid cancer in young people, in colorectal cancer in young people, in other cancers in young, and I mean young people, under age 30, we have a fourfold increase in colorectal cancer.
Since 2010, and I believe that the practice of keeping cell phones in the back pocket or in the, in the pocket is part of the reason why we have these unexplained [00:48:00] global epidemics Transcribed of cancers in people under the age of 30. Now, when I first wrote the book in 2010, I speculated about it. The new edition now says, look, what are we doing to our children and ourselves?
The evidence has become even stronger than when I wrote the book now, 14 years ago. Yes, undeniable. And I think that that's why I'm happy to bring attention to it. That's why we took the time to write the book and the end of the book has a lot of [00:48:30] great material that Theodora has put together, practical advice about what you can do to digital device best practices so that you can reduce your exposures.
So the military pilots, cancer study. Are you familiar with that? Yes. In that study, talking to your point about the incredible increase in colorectal cancer, in this study of military air crew and of ground crew, they found an [00:49:00] 87 percent higher rate of melanoma. Do you care to speculate as to why? There was an increase in melanoma in particular?
Melanoma is a tough one because we know, of course, that sunlight is a factor. When you're flying in an airplane, you don't get a lot of sunlight. This could very well reflect the incredible increase in exposure that takes place in the cockpit to microwave radiation, and that has dramatically increased recently.
[00:49:30] Um, we know that there are a number of different exposures that pilots get, including, by the way, to jet fuel on refueling, which often goes in the front of the plane as well, and they get the fumes, et cetera. I think that this is a worrisome finding that could very well reflect the combined effects. of the volatile exposures that they get to fuels.
But the thing that has changed recently is not fuels, because [00:50:00] pilots have been flying airplanes with fuels almost a hundred years now. But the exposure to the wireless radiation inside that cockpit has just mushroomed, mushroomed. And obviously should be examined as a factor here. I absolutely think it could be important.
And I do love that in phase B, they actually used the words, non ionizing radiation might be a link. They actually say that, [00:50:30] the military, the Pentagon study. So and then another thing I'm just curious if you had direction about with this particular study is I looked back and I saw that cockpits were outfitted with the millimeter wave antenna starting back before 2010.
Right. And, and to me personally, it feels. like the millimeter wave is affecting our skin more. I mean, that's [00:51:00] an interesting point. That's a very interesting point. Let's talk about that. The millimeter wave does affect the skin more because it gets just a little bit into the skin, but the skin is our largest organ and turns out to have an immunological function that has not been widely appreciated.
Think about this. You get sunlight, you send out inside and you feel better when you're out in the light. Okay. Everybody gets a certain feeling of relaxation. Yes. Right. Yes. That's [00:51:30] because that sunlight to your skin gives you a systemic effect of well being. And it is understood just a little bit of exposure into your skin has an effect throughout the body.
So it's not that it only affects the skin, but it is true that the effect is primarily into the skin. We know that babies that are born with jaundice, that are a little bit yellow, we treat them by covering their eyes and exposing their little bodies [00:52:00] to blue light because that blue light takes the blood that's circulating into the surface of their skins and Creates vitamin D synthesis in the liver of these newborns from the blue light into the skin blue light in the skin affects the blood of those babies so that it forms dihydroxy vitamin D in the liver and has a systemic effect on those babies.
So light just [00:52:30] getting a little bit into the skin of the newborn affects how much vitamin D they produce. And when they produce more vitamin D, it gets rid of the jaundice. So, we understand there's a correlation. A direct causal, not just correlation. We know that blue light in the skin of the newborn produces vitamin D in their bloodstream.
So, the millimeter wave affecting the skin is affecting us holistically. [00:53:00] Correct. And the whole layering on of all these different frequencies, it's a, it's a hot button for me. Because my body just. freaks out with this even more so. And I think that I would like to encourage you to take a look at the work of Rina Bray.
That's R I I N A B R A Y at the Toronto Women's Hospital. She, and of course you know, um, Sharon Goldberg. Sure. Yeah, because they [00:53:30] have been reported some success in helping people to modulate their response so that you can have less, less reaction to the EMFs and that's, I think, very important. You know, it costs a lot of money to be electro sensitive.
Right? It does. I know. I know. You're fortunate. No, no. I understand. But think about all the people that don't know that they're having reactions to electromagnetic fields and being treated with psychoactive drugs [00:54:00] and, and other things. Exactly. I love that you brought that up. And it's, this is also my concern with the partial shielding is that they believe that they're doing something good and they're getting this.
false sense of security and they're not doing anything actually to change exposure and sometimes they're increasing it. In fact, almost every demonstration I do, it's an increase. And I fully agree with you on that. That's why I say that I don't generally use any of these small little devices because they may reduce the amount coming out of the [00:54:30] back of the phone and then increase it every place else.
Yeah. It's, there's so much to do. Anyway. Yep. Thank you. I cannot, I cannot tell you enough how much I appreciate this time. It's mutual. I want you to know that you really are a very critical part of what we need to do. And frankly, what we're hoping to do with the new team as the new team comes in place, and I'd like to introduce you to them.
If you haven't interviewed Kent Chamberlain, uh, or Rob Brown, you will really enjoy talking with them as well [00:55:00] because they have their own. Takes on things. Kent has developed modeling of the brain to show absorption, uh, as it moves through the brain. And Rob, of course, is a diagnostic radiologist can go toe to toe and explain why the myth that the only effect of microwaves is heat is wrong.
That's very important that people understand that. I would love to talk to Kent. I would love that. Devra, thank you so much. This has been a very enlightening conversation. [00:55:30] I'm so honored that you've been here and thank you for the continued work and congratulations to the Environmental Health Trust.
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Devra Davis--The Respected Founder of Environmental Health Trust With A Step By Step Strategy To Protect Your Family from EMF's
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Devra Davis is the widely respected research scientist who has been been calling attention to the dangers of EMF's for decades. As the founder of The Environmental Health Trust, she has sued the FCC for failing to update its safety standards since 1996 and focused on sharing her long-held conviction that EMF's affect our biology. Her book "Disconnect: The Truth About Cell Phone Radiation" was published in 2010, barely three years after the launch of the first smartphone and it remains one of the most important books on the subject. Now, Devra has updated Disconnect with over 100 pages of new updated information, based on new and updated research.

In this conversation, we talk about the book and what we can all do to best protect our families from the very threat represented by electromagnetic fields--the information carrying radio waves that power our digital devices.

Here's the book: https://www.amazon.com/Disconnect-scientists-solutions-safer-technology/dp/0988359189

Website: https://ehtrust.org/

The continually updated EMF Guide from Tech Wellness: https://techwellness.com/blogs/expertise/emf-meaning-expert-guide-what-is-effects-on-body

EMF Protection Solutions from Tech Wellness: https://techwellness.com/collections/best-emf-protection

Here is the transcript of our discussion. Be Well!

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AUGUST: [00:00:00] Hey there, welcome to Thriving with Technology, the science led podcast that's here to help you achieve mindful living in a digital world. And I'm your host. I'm August Brice from TechWellness. com. This show is designed to give you a practical approach on how to navigate the important tech toxins in our world.
We have real life stories, experiences, and non fear based facts about cybersecurity and EMFs, your online privacy, [00:00:30] internet overuse. What leads to addiction, blue light on so much more. So thank you. Thanks for joining us and enjoy the show.
We're happy you're joining us for a very special edition of thriving with technology today. August sits down with Dr. Devra Davis, one of the first and most respected educators and [00:01:00] researchers in the EMF space. And you could say in public health in general for our generation. In fact, if you can remember the days when smoking was allowed on airplanes, you have Dr.
Davis to thank that that is just a very distant memory. Dr. Davis has authored more than 200 peer reviewed publications and written several important books on cancer, environmental pollution, and her newest, which is an update of a title first published in 2010, Disconnect, a scientist's solutions for safer [00:01:30] technology.
Dr. Davis is the founder of the Environmental Health Trust, one of the leading forces in EMF research, education, and advocacy, working to reform the laws that govern our exposure to EMF. There's a lot of wisdom in this episode. You won't want to miss a minute. Here's August. Okay. Devra Davis. Hello. Hello, August.
What an honor. I cannot thank you enough for being with me today. I am so excited to [00:02:00] share the new book. I'm excited to talk about everything that's happened since the original Disconnect was published. And of course, everyone knows I'm a huge fan of the Environmental Health Trust. If you subscribe to my newsletter or if you're on my Instagram channel or Facebook, you know that I'm consistently.
sharing links to the Environmental Health Trust because of the amazing work that they are doing. And they are led by Devra Davis. Thank you so much, [00:02:30] August. I really appreciate all that you're doing. Thank you. Well, we've both been in this space for so long. I first discovered that I was sensitive to EMF in about 1992.
And I know that your first book was published in 2010, but I was following your work before then you were publishing, you were doing research. You've led so much important research. And you know, Devra, I see myself as the [00:03:00] reporter and the communicator, and I see you as the educator and the scientist and together getting this information out.
Is wildly important and even more important today. I fully agree with you and I want to tell you, uh, I haven't been doing this alone. Uh, we've had an executive director, Theodora Scorato, and we're now bringing in, uh, three new people and reorganizing the Environmental Health Trust. Oh! I'm going to be stepping out as president, and [00:03:30] in my place will be Kent Chamberlain, who is professor and chairman emeritus of the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at the University of New Hampshire.
And we will have a vice president for and general counsel, Joe Sandry, who is rather experienced with, um, Going toe to toe with the FCC and winning, as he helped us win our lawsuit that we can talk about in just a moment. Yes. And we'll have a new vice president for science and clinical affairs, who is a [00:04:00] diagnostic radiologist with three decades of experience as a senior radiologist and member of the American College of Radiology, Rob Brown.
And we will of course have Theodora Scorato, who has been absolutely critical to what I've been doing over the past decade. She will become vice president for policy outreach and education. Uh, and we're going to have a great new expanded team, but I want to say it takes a [00:04:30] village. And August, you've been a really critical part of that village for us.
Oh, thank you, Devra. Thank you. It's always my honor to tell people about the Environmental Health Trust and especially your work. And you know, we've had Theodora on the podcast before, but this is such a big deal because of the book and congratulations on the expansion. Of environmental health trust. I know all the people that you're talking about and to have someone who was really central in the industry now on your team.[00:05:00]
I can't wait to see what happens next. It can only be bigger, better, amazing. And so important for. Really the entire world. Thank you for doing this. Well, it's mutual August. It really is. Okay. So, you know, Devra, I have to tell everyone, and I explained this a little bit in the interview, but every time I get on a plane, I do think about you.
And I think, wow, if Devra, Hadn't done what Devra does, I might be [00:05:30] sitting next to someone and not just worrying about the secondhand Wi Fi radiation, but also worrying about the secondhand smoke. Can you tell us a little bit about why that change, why there's no smoke in airplanes? Well, in 1983, I was a young executive director of the Board on Environmental Studies and Toxicology at the U.
S. National Academy of Sciences. It's a And, uh, Senator Hayakawa from Hawaii wondered why he kept getting colds whenever he flew on [00:06:00] airplanes. Long flights. Many of your listeners may be shocked to know that smoking was allowed on airplanes. And he wondered about what that meant for his breathing. We, at the National Academy of Sciences, um, I organized a team, put together the first study that actually concluded that smoking was not a good idea for the plane.
Thank you for listening. because it gummed up the electronics, by the way. And by the way, it also affected the respiratory [00:06:30] tract of flight attendants and anyone else. What I did personally, and I tell this in my, uh, second book, which was called the secret history of the war on cancer. I took a small machine that looked frankly, like a bomb onto the, onto a long transatlantic flight.
And I went, in the smoking section and the non smoking section throughout the flight. By the end of the flight, I had a little congestion, as I have right now, [00:07:00] because I was able to show that by the end of the flight, even though there was a smoking section and a non smoking section, that the quality of the air in both sections was identical, that the level of ultra fine particulates, smaller, 50 times smaller than a human hair in the air was uniform, and that there was effectively no non smoking section.
And this study then was replicated by the National Academy of Sciences, [00:07:30] and it took us a while to get the report published because the pressure from the tobacco industry. Was quite, uh, impressive and I should state people don't realize this, but at the time of the U. S. National Cancer Institute was working on developing a safe cigarette with over 10 million dollars of funding from the tobacco industry.
I did not know that. There was a lot of close collaboration with the tobacco industry and [00:08:00] Harvard and Yale. They basically had funded major research programs at some of the top schools in the world. And they were regarded as a, and they were in fact serious in their support. In fact, in the disconnect book, I tell the story of how one scientist in Berlin, desperate for funding.
Became a major researcher for the tobacco industry in Germany. And when [00:08:30] he first reported that he thought that tobacco might actually cause cancer, they said, Hey, we'd like to give you another project to work on. We don't think you need to work on that anymore. , and they gave in the redirect, they gave in the project.
of studying cell phone radiation. And this was Franz Adelkofer. He studied cell phone radiation, a major multi laboratory, multi million dollar study for the European Union. And in 2002, he produced results. [00:09:00] Contrary to all of their expectations, including his own, he showed That cell phone radiation could in fact damage the brain cells in animals and could damage DNA.
He showed that. Right. So that result was world changing except that the industry made the mistake of challenging him, uh, publicly. They tried to discredit him and because he was so prominent [00:09:30] and frankly had the resources to do this, he sued them. And just before he died. Uh, two years ago, German courts ruled that he had been correct and ordered all of the scientists and all of the industry claims that had criticized him to recant the And to stop their criticism of his results.
Now, the U S national toxicology program has since confirmed what Adolf [00:10:00] Hofer showed, namely that cell phone radiation can damage DNA. DNA is in the nucleus of every living cell of every living thing, whether plant, insect, or animal. Mammals, and of course, humans, and our DNA can be damaged by cell phone radiation.
Now that doesn't mean that we're all doomed, because the important thing for people to understand, and I know you know this, is that no matter how [00:10:30] much damage you may have incurred from exposures to cell phone radiation and to other things, like sunlight, for example, You can repair that damage through good nutrition and exercise and prayer and things that promote health and well being, and of course, avoiding and reducing exposures to the extent possible.
Right. You're talking about our body's adaptive capacity, right? Indeed. [00:11:00] For, for, yes, we come up against a lot, however, we could do a lot better if we weren't up against this radiation, right? Indeed. Absolutely. Absolutely. No doubt about it. And you know, we have a community of about 200, 000 people and they're all in different stages of their journey.
Some are on health journeys, some just want to have a healthy, happy family and do the right thing for their children. And so I. I really love to break it [00:11:30] down into bite size, non fear based solutions that we can give people, but I want you to help us understand, just like you just did, more about the research.
Give us just a couple of the, of the big, important findings that you really want everyone to know about. Well, the first thing we need to understand is that every cell In the body and we have trillions of them has a membrane around it [00:12:00] and cell phone radiation has consistently been shown to weaken membranes, whether it's the membranes around are the neurons in our brain and the blood brain barrier.
Or those affecting the membranes around, um, sperm. All of these cells are affected. And the effect can be subtle, uh, and it's not uniformly fatal, obviously not. It's the [00:12:30] long term cumulative effect that we have to be concerned about. That's, that's what we have to pay attention to. The cumulative effects of the combined exposures to many different things in the environment we cannot control.
Uh, we need to know, we need to know That the weakening, the weakening of membranes means that it's more possible for other materials in the body, whether it's lead or [00:13:00] pesticides, we might be exposed to through the foods we eat. Uh, all of those things can get more deeply absorbed into a cell if the membranes are weaker.
So overall, our bodies are being weakened when they are exposed to cell phone radiation. And we understand that it's the overall exposure, like sunlight, you can think of it, you can liken it to a sunburn. The more sun you get, the more likely you are to [00:13:30] get sunburned if you were sunburned before. And so the cumulative effect is very important.
And I'm wondering if there's any research that can help us understand the difference between direct exposure, because we tell people, don't put it in your pocket, don't put it in your bra, try to keep it out of your hands. So that's direct exposure versus, versus the full body exposure, maybe from the phone, maybe from the Wi Fi.
How do our bodies actually get affected by the [00:14:00] radiation in the environment versus up against the skin? All right. Well, first of all, sunlight is, is it interesting because you need 20 minutes a day of sunlight in order to make enough vitamin D, which is a very beneficial part component for us. So, unlike sunlight, where you need a little bit for your health, you do not need a little bit of radiation [00:14:30] for anything.
All right. It's not, it has no known benefit. I want to be clear about that. Um, the good news I want to share is that colleagues of mine in Turkey, and I have produced several studies showing that omega 3 fatty acids. Melatonin, um, can help repair damage from radiation. And we've done this in studies in cell cultures where we take cell cultures of human cells and we add [00:15:00] to them a melatonin or basically a component of omega 3 fatty acids or fish oil.
And then we expose them to cell phone radiation. And when the cells have melatonin in them, Or the omega 3 fatty acids, they get less damage than when they do not. So it's always important to understand that it's not, again, that we're doomed, but that we can repair, uh, repair that damage. [00:15:30] What happens with radiation are a number of processes, one of which is it leads to the formation of reactive oxygen species.
And you can think of these kind of like Pac Man that go around gobbling up whatever it might be free and frankly destroying it. So you want to keep your reactive oxygen species to a low level and you want to make sure you consume antioxidants that will reduce them [00:16:00] and reduce the amount of damage, uh, that they can have.
Within the system as well. It's important, particularly as, as you know, we've talked about this in my TEDx talk as well. We want to protect children because their skulls are thinner. Their brains contain more fluid, the more fluid in something, whether it's in your microwave oven or. In your breast, the more fluid something contains, the more it [00:16:30] absorbs microwave radiation.
So I just want to backtrack for a second. When we talk about melatonin, omega threes, fatty acids, the things that you talked about a moment ago, you're not recommending that parents now give their kids melatonin. I think what you're saying is let's keep the healthy production intact. Absolutely. And let me be clear, let me be clear about that.
Sleeping in the dark with [00:17:00] no electronics at all in the bedroom is important for everybody, but particularly for children, there actually is a device that they sell nowadays for infants where you put a cover over the crib. Mm-Hmm. , um, that allows them to be in total darkness. And baby in total darkness is when we naturally produce melatonin from the pineal gland.
And melatonin is a natural hormone [00:17:30] that is an antioxidant. So it repairs damage that may have happened just as a consequence of being alive. Because we can't avoid all of the things in the world that can damage ourselves. But if we are healthy and we sleep in the dark. without any electronics in our bedrooms, uh, then we will make enough melatonin naturally.
The same thing, it's best to get the cruciferous vegetables, broccoli, cauliflower, [00:18:00] etc., through, through your diet. It's best to get your omega 3 fatty acids through diet as well. Um, sometimes, however, uh, a supplement of melatonin at night can be very helpful, but those always should be Any decision about that should be made in consultation with pediatricians or doctors.
A hundred percent. I agree that we need to really, even as adults, we need to regulate our melatonin intake if we're taking it [00:18:30] exogenously because, uh, you know, you're not positive of the formulation and some people are actually sensitive to melatonin. Melatonin supplements, and it can actually change their own melatonin production.
So there's healthy, good, healthy living, so, so important. And part of good, healthy living is not just what we eat. It's also our EMF exposure and really regulating it. Correct. That's what I'm hearing from Devra. Yes, absolutely. Because, because honestly, you guys, the [00:19:00] effects can be devastating and Devra shares many stories.
On the Environmental Health Trust website and in her new book, which you must read, Deverdew. Do those stories stick with you? Which stories in particular stick with you? Well, there's some, there's some sad stories that of a, of a young man named Justin whose parents did not understand the damaging effect of EMFs, and he was a gamer at a young age, and he slept in his room with his [00:19:30] dog.
And his room was saturated, saturated with EMFs, and both he and his dog died of brain tumors. Very, very sad and unusual, and now the parents have become advocates so that other children will be spared that, that fate. Um, there's a young woman we lost this year, Tiffany, who developed a breast cancer when she was 21, right [00:20:00] under where she had stored her phone in her bra.
proudly from the time she was 12 or 13. And the breast tumors developed right under where the antenna of the phone had radiated her breast. She died after almost a decade of repeated surgeries to try to spare her. But she was first diagnosed, unfortunately, with advanced disease because [00:20:30] nobody believed a 21 year old boop!
cancer. That's an extraordinary, extraordinary. And she had no risk factors for the disease. She did not carry any of the genetic variants and put you at risk of the disease at all. So these are unfortunately warnings for the rest of us at the same time. I'm happy to report that there are some couples I've counseled.
Who were having difficulty getting pregnant and in one case when [00:21:00] the fellows stopped carrying his two phones in two pockets, um, they were able to get pregnant within three months, but no one had ever told him that a phone in the pocket. Could damage his firm. And that therein lies the rub. That's the issue.
You know, Canada, our largest trading partner and environmental health trust published this and our next door neighbor says that reducing EMF is part of their bio initiative 2030. [00:21:30] It's amazing. But meanwhile, our FDA, our FCC, uh, cell phone manufacturers tell us there's nothing to worry about. It's not a problem.
It's all about stronger, faster signals. So Devra, what's wrong with us? We need to do a better job of what you're doing. You are, you are really leading the way here. We need every parent, every grandparent to demand the right to buy safer [00:22:00] products. There's no reason. Why routers should be on 24 7. Frankly, there's no reason we actually need Wi Fi in our homes for the most part.
You can, as you and I are both wired with Ethernet cables, we are faster, we're safer from hacking, we're more secure, and it's healthier. So all of those things are a benefit and we need to do a better job of educating people. If you go to our , which is ehtrust. [00:22:30] org, our website includes practical advice about safe tech at home and what you can do to make a safer home environment.
And we're working with other Programs like TechSafe Schools, which I'm a scientific advisor to, and there's specific advice that we have on our website that is on theirs as well, how you can promote safer technology in schools. We know from a recent [00:23:00] fabulous book that has just been written, um, on the anxiety generation.
Right, the anxious generation. Yes, the anxious generation. Thank you. We know that what that is doing to our children is depriving them of play. And when, when the moment you give a child a smartphone, you have ended their childhood. I agree. I'm absolutely writing about that right now. And you know, you know, Devra, the interesting thing is you couple that.
You [00:23:30] layer on the electromagnetic fields and the physical damage that, you know, you look at the brains of children exposed to EMF and you look at the brains of children looking, looking at screens. Very similar. Uh. you know, findings of less gray matter and different places of hyperactivity. So we know that both of these things are working together to affect our children's brains.
And I am always floored because, you know, [00:24:00] I carry a meter with me wherever I go. I determine where I'm sitting at a restaurant. I determine where I'm going to go for a walk. I have that meter get me into a low radiation zone. so that my body can operate at its fullest. So I'm shocked when I go by school still to this day, uh, and see that the radiation is the highest level in the community because they've, they've got the tower either right across the street from the school or on the school [00:24:30] property.
They're making money from, you know, renting out a space for a cell phone tower. And plus every school is Completely run by wifi and kids are given their own laptops to use at school and then to take home. I mean, kids. I just, my body aches for children trying to survive in this soup of radiation. You're absolutely correct, and I [00:25:00] think that we can work together, uh, that's in fact what some of the new initiatives that we're going to be developing with the new team at Environmental Health Trust.
We, in the, in the new edition of the book that we just released, Disconnect, A Scientist's Solutions for Safer Technology, we discuss the fact. The way antennas are located in our schools would be illegal in Israel and Switzerland. Yes, in other high tech [00:25:30] countries, it is against the law to have antennas directly on schools.
And yet our schools, who are so desperate for money, Do not understand that they take the money for the antennas, but they're compromising the quality of the brains and bodies of the children as a result. So we've got to do, yes. Yes. To that point, I consult with moms and They, many of them have, you know, [00:26:00] they're torn because they don't want to be the nagging naysayer at their school.
They understand there's a huge issue and I point them to the, some of the posters that you have and the documents that you have and the letters that you have. Can you give us just one or two examples of schools that have been successful and parents who have been successful in having a cell tower removed?
Or relocated. Well, there are on our [00:26:30] website, there are many examples and they keep changing, you know, I mean, um, and unfortunately, um, it's a little bit like whack and old, um, Pittsfield, they, they successfully, um, have thought against, um, an antenna being constructed there. And there's efforts ongoing right now in, in Connecticut, it's in several school systems as well.
And I think that what we did with our lawsuit, I want to take a moment and just [00:27:00] explain that we filed a lawsuit against the FCC, a little bit like David and Goliath. Yes. In which we said, look, Your standards for testing phones and all of these devices were set now 27 years ago, using 20th century technology for 21st, to evaluate 21st century technology.
That makes no sense. That makes absolutely no sense. And so, in addition, we pointed out that there was growing [00:27:30] evidence of damaging effects on non human animals, namely pollinators. Without the honeybee, without the 2, 000 pollinating insects on which modern agriculture depends, we wouldn't have food production in around the world today.
And there is growing evidence, the modeled three dimensional image of the honeybee body is affected by 5G and by all of the wireless radiation. And we know [00:28:00] that the worldwide, there's a decline. In honeybee and other pollinating insects. And we know that neonicotinoid pesticides are a cause of that, but wireless radiation is another cause of it.
And we need to do a better job of understanding all of that. So in our lawsuit, we said, look, there's all of this data on effects on animals, on effects on children. And what are you doing about it? And the court ordered. the [00:28:30] FCC to go back and reconsider the science. The court said to the FCC, you have not considered all the record that we, Environmental Health Trust, and others have established.
Now, it's more than two years since the court issued that decision. And the FCC has done nothing. So what we need is what you can help us with here is we're creating, we're filing, in fact, next week, we are [00:29:00] filing a demand that the FCC respond to the court orders because they have not. They've just ignored it because there's such an arrogant agency.
They can ignore the fact that the court said, do this, fix it, stop using outdated technology to evaluate technology that is just being invented today. So why do you have to file again? Isn't the court, doesn't the court have power to do something on [00:29:30] its own? You know, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know the answer to your question, it's a good question, um, but I think that the answer is this, the FCC is a huge agency, and they operate as an almost like a super constitutional, they basically ignore the law, and until they're going to be held accountable, nothing can happen.
Wow. Uh, you know, there's a couple of things I want to, first of all, congratulations [00:30:00] on the victory. Stunning. Important. Victory. Uh, we're behind you. Anything that we can do? Are you looking for letters? Are you looking for just spreading the awareness that the lawsuit happened and that the FCC isn't addressing it?
You know, I will ask the attorneys that are proceeding now, and in fact, our new general counsel, exactly what else could be supportive of what we're doing here, because I don't know, but I do know this. The only thing that's going to make a change is when we force the industry to [00:30:30] compete on safety. We want them to compete with giving us safer products.
Let me give you just one example. If you have a router in your home, it should go to sleep. As the default mode, it should only be working when you need it. We do not need these signals beaming. 24 seven. There's no way. Yes, and Devra, our, our most popular item is our Wi Fi kill switch. And we also sell the low power Wi Fi and we also sell a [00:31:00] Wi Fi Faraday box.
All really good solutions to lowering the EMF of my favorite. It's just snap it off whenever you're not using it, totally unnecessary to have it spewing that radiation. And I have not looked, nor do I endorse specific products, but I know that there is one from a, a low wifi router from the Netherlands, I think.
Yeah. And one made here in the United States. Oh, well, I'll take a look at that. Yes, we offer both. And I actually, the truth [00:31:30] is many people who buy the low EMF wifi that shuts off when it's not being used have issues because it powers some of their wireless things in their, their homes. Like there. They're, uh, security systems.
So this, the other one is just low, low enough so that we're not spewing as much of that toxic energy, but so enough power to not turn off those important things in people's homes. Meanwhile. [00:32:00] I'm just like you. I'm all about hardwiring. We focus on creating low EMF sanctuaries because that's where we can control the energy in our homes.
But I want to tell you right now that I have been speaking with Theodora about supplying the hardwiring to a school. I want to have a model school where we hardwire the school, we provide the, the, Adapters and dongles that we manufacture, the cabling that's EMF free that we [00:32:30] manufacture, that's grounded, um, and we can even, I know, I'm not even gonna say it, we're not gonna put any low Wi Fi routers in there, low power routers, we're not gonna have any routers, we're gonna be a completely wired school, and then we're gonna talk to people about how it feels and how it works.
Well, that sounds like a great idea. We, Theodore and I have talked about this for some time. We've had some progress with a few schools, and then what usually happens is they bring in a new IT guy who doesn't [00:33:00] understand what we're trying to do, and then we have to go back all over again. So it's, it's, it's a constant struggle and I'm really, I'm really delighted that you've been on the case now for quite a while.
Quite a while. Yes. Yes. We've been offering a hard, I think we offered our first adapter 10 years ago, uh, because, because I'm sensitive because this is my life. This is how I actually am required to live, to sleep in the canopy, you know, to have the paint. If [00:33:30] a, if a neighbor moves in, just the things that.
That I have to do to feel good. And fortunately, I can feel these things instantly. And so I am so with you for people and, and I was so excited. You guys have to read the book to find out that there are options for safer phones that have even been discussed for 20, 30 years. Yes, yes. And, and the technology exists, the patents [00:34:00] already are there.
We simply need what, what I call, we need girlcotts. A boycott means no. Okay? Boycott means we're not going to buy your wine if, if it's made by illegal, by people who are working without toilets and without healthcare. That's a boycott, right? A girl cot means we want the right to buy safer products. We wanna be able to buy safer things.
We want our schools to be safer for our [00:34:30] children. That means no lead in the drinking water. That means wiring the systems so that they, we want our kids to be computer citizens, but we don't want them to be e zombies. Exactly. I love that. I'm for it. Let's do it. And, you know, we have to talk about this because you do, you sort of mention it in the book because people are looking for solutions.
And since I've been in this space for so long, back in the nineties, seriously guys, people were [00:35:00] offering chips for your phones, shields, shielding cloths. I got my first shielding cloth in 2005. And interestingly, I, I. A girlfriend and I held it up against, we were about 15 feet from the microwave. Then we got closer and closer and closer to the microwave and then the microwave, it was just too much energy back on itself and we broke the microwave.
This was at my office. So I have been experimenting with shielding, partial shielding for a very long time. You mention it and I just need to [00:35:30] know, do you use partial shielding or harmonizers or chips or any of the gadgets that have come along? calling themselves EMF protection. I generally do not use any of them because I think the safest policy is distance is your friend and turning things off, frankly.
And I, I'm not in a position to evaluate whether they work as you know, very well. Some of them may work. Some of them may not. So I generally [00:36:00] try to reduce exposures, but with respect to a question you asked me before, I want to make sure we. We point this out in the new book as well. Several governments have banned Wi Fi for children, for young children.
In France, it's banned in kindergarten, it's restricted, uh, in high schools. Cell phones are illegal. For children in elementary and middle middle schools in France in Cyprus. They've removed [00:36:30] Wi Fi from elementary classrooms. Belgium has banned cell phones for for for young children and Israel has also banned them in what in nursery schools and restricted it in in elementary schools and a number of other areas help French Polynesia has also.
So there's a number of places around the world that. are moving toward to eliminate or reduce exposures and the European Parliament [00:37:00] a long time ago, I think it was 2011 called on the governments to take measures to reduce exposures, especially in the environment of children. So there's a huge worldwide call.
Um, in Spain. I'm working now with people in Argentina. Um, in the United States, we have made some progress. Um, certainly the Maryland State Children's Environmental Health, um, Council issued advice and of course, you know, about the New Hampshire [00:37:30] Commission on 5G. And that is something that Kent Chamberlain, our new president, has played a major role with.
And then, you've also, I'm sure, discussed what's going on in Petaluma. Yes. And I, I do want to say though, what you've just, all that information you gave us about other countries and maybe some of the things that we're doing in this country, these are simple, clear directives and solutions that are so easy to incorporate.
It's easy to say off. [00:38:00] It's easy to say no for our children's sake. Wouldn't you agree? Uh, yes, absolutely. And there are some schools that have taken the steps to implement some of the things that you provide. I went on your website like special plugs so that the wireless antennas are off, except when the teacher decides that they might need to use them and they teach students to turn off the wireless on their devices so that the students devices themselves have them off.
And there's [00:38:30] a list of schools on our website. of schools that have reduced or removed Wi Fi. And I don't, I'm not going to go through it, but some of them are Waldorf schools, of course. Of course. That's where, where we started at a Waldorf school. And, you know, I think that this is just great ammunition for parents who, who are interested and concerned, but not really exactly sure.
How to be a, you know, low key activist, and they don't really want to be, they just want, like you said, they want a girlcott. [00:39:00] They just want the safer solution because they love their children and their families and they want to give everybody the best opportunity for health and well being. And one thing that's really important for everybody is to disconnect from all of these devices at least one hour before bedtime in any form of screen.
That really is, is important. But the other thing I would, I would add is that distance is your friend. And when it comes to the laptops that are [00:39:30] assigned to children in schools, they don't call them laptops anymore. They call them tablets, Chromebooks. And the reason is they belong on tables. They do not belong on laps.
They should not be held on the body. And that basic hygiene is so important. They should be wired. Yeah. Yes. A hundred percent. And I do, I do want to mention at this point that when it comes to putting a device on your lap and [00:40:00] putting a quote unquote shield underneath it, you must remember two things. One, that you're only shielding the area that you're covering.
And if you look down, it's most likely the top of your legs. And then secondarily. Where is that energy going? I, I always, uh, use the metaphor of smoke because smoke doesn't get absorbed, neither does EMF radiation, it gets reflected. So where is it going? Is this radiation that's [00:40:30] coming from that thing on your lap?
Is it going to your thyroid, to your brain, to your eyes? And If it's so, is that okay? I don't, I don't think so. I think that the really great solution, and that's easy if you must still have wifi, is to connect a keyboard, a wired keyboard. There's these little ports and all of the devices that you can connect and then push that away.
Because distance is your friend. Yes. Push [00:41:00] that device away from you, get it further away from you. And of course your wired keyboard won't have radiation coming from it because it's wired. So anyway, yeah, I love these solutions. And I did want to get back to one question from your, your, uh, incredible research, direct exposure versus full body exposure.
Do we know how our bodies intake this invisible smoke if you, if you will, for that comparison, It's [00:41:30] happening and it's, you know, an inch away from us and it's, you know, across the room from us or it's next to us. Is that different from it actually touching our bodies? Is there a big difference? Well, the answer is we don't know for sure, but use your common sense.
You will be exposed. If you are getting general body exposure, [00:42:00] it's not a good thing. It should be avoided to the extent that you can. The direct exposure of something on your body is the one that you want to avoid first of all, but there is a cumulative effect over a lifetime that particularly for our children of thousands of hours of use and exposures as we are saturated in our general environment with many of these.
And because of that fact, it's really important to reduce exposure whenever you [00:42:30] can. And so there are a number of Schools like the Castle Hill High School that have taken steps to do this, but you're asking a question that we don't have the answer to. So the precautionary principle, right? You got it.
Bingo. Bingo. And we want to work with more and more parents like they have done in schools in Australia and all over the world. to explain that just like you would never dose your children with chemicals and [00:43:00] pesticides, you shouldn't be dosing them with an environment full of wireless radiation. And in addition to schools or separate from schools, how can we help make larger scale change?
outside of our homes. People look and ask that question. And what's your, what's your number one go to for that answer? Do they go to city council meetings? Do they start a blog of their own? Do they tell their neighbor? What's, what's the most important thing [00:43:30] Uh, tactic we want people to get educated, motivated and activated.
They get educated by looking at our website at trust on org by looking at what information you have developed, including. You have an incredible array of podcasts that I had not listened to all of them, but I know that all of the ones with Theodora are terrific and and and CeCe Doucette is also a [00:44:00] very knowledgeable educator as well.
And so get educated. And then share the education with your neighbors and friends, then get motivated because once people come together, they can organize at the local level, you start out with your school boards and with your local town council and create zones where there is reduced exposure and we want to move toward no exposure.
What I believe will be [00:44:30] the model, and this is my hope is just like we did with smoking. Longer would anybody dream of lighting a cigarette inside a school and smoking. And yet, 30, 40 years ago, that was okay. And teachers were allowed to take smoking breaks and had smoking rooms. That is no longer the case.
I believe we will have zones with no Wi Fi radiation and that we will [00:45:00] start out with creating them again for children and then for everybody else. And there are some models of that around the world. In Cyprus, they have no Wi Fi in the intensive care units. For newborns, and that's a start. That's hospitals.
As you know, our hospitals can be saturated hot beds. Absolutely. The same is true of airports. So I thought that we need to [00:45:30] start a move for low and no EMS zones. So that people like you can be more comfortable in public, you know. I agree. I think that, that we should share them on a website, you know, like Antenna Search.
It's now Antenna Search. Sadly, sadly, it still works, but it's kind of a joke because they're everywhere. Whereas they're not an antenna. Where is there a safe zone? And I'll give people just a hint, you know, typography. does affect EMF. And so if you can find a [00:46:00] particularly low guarded area, like a ravine, you'll find that your EMF exposure is less.
It's just physics. Um, so that's helpful, but I love that idea, Devra. I'll do anything to help push that forward. It's so important. We might start with that in August. We should revisit what we can do, but I think you start out with, we have to educate more people. That's why I took the time. to issue a new edition of the book.
There's 100 pages of new material, including, [00:46:30] by the way, when the book was first published in 2010, I said that I thought cell phones might cause cancer. Since then, the National Toxicology Program, the Ramazzini Institute, and Thousands of other studies have been produced, all showing that cell phone radiation can damage DNA and increase the risk of cancer in animals, and now we have more and more evidence in humans.
My position is this. [00:47:00] We study animals in order to predict effects in humans and try to prevent them from happening. We study animals to develop drugs and then use them and test them in people and continue to monitor them. If cell phones were drugs, They would be illegal because they've never been tested for safety before being used and now there's no monitoring and surveillance for effects of them.
So we need to start doing a better job of monitoring [00:47:30] what's going on in our schools. Why do we have this dramatic increase in In thyroid cancer in young people, in colorectal cancer in young people, in other cancers in young, and I mean young people, under age 30, we have a fourfold increase in colorectal cancer.
Since 2010, and I believe that the practice of keeping cell phones in the back pocket or in the, in the pocket is part of the reason why we have these unexplained [00:48:00] global epidemics Transcribed of cancers in people under the age of 30. Now, when I first wrote the book in 2010, I speculated about it. The new edition now says, look, what are we doing to our children and ourselves?
The evidence has become even stronger than when I wrote the book now, 14 years ago. Yes, undeniable. And I think that that's why I'm happy to bring attention to it. That's why we took the time to write the book and the end of the book has a lot of [00:48:30] great material that Theodora has put together, practical advice about what you can do to digital device best practices so that you can reduce your exposures.
So the military pilots, cancer study. Are you familiar with that? Yes. In that study, talking to your point about the incredible increase in colorectal cancer, in this study of military air crew and of ground crew, they found an [00:49:00] 87 percent higher rate of melanoma. Do you care to speculate as to why? There was an increase in melanoma in particular?
Melanoma is a tough one because we know, of course, that sunlight is a factor. When you're flying in an airplane, you don't get a lot of sunlight. This could very well reflect the incredible increase in exposure that takes place in the cockpit to microwave radiation, and that has dramatically increased recently.
[00:49:30] Um, we know that there are a number of different exposures that pilots get, including, by the way, to jet fuel on refueling, which often goes in the front of the plane as well, and they get the fumes, et cetera. I think that this is a worrisome finding that could very well reflect the combined effects. of the volatile exposures that they get to fuels.
But the thing that has changed recently is not fuels, because [00:50:00] pilots have been flying airplanes with fuels almost a hundred years now. But the exposure to the wireless radiation inside that cockpit has just mushroomed, mushroomed. And obviously should be examined as a factor here. I absolutely think it could be important.
And I do love that in phase B, they actually used the words, non ionizing radiation might be a link. They actually say that, [00:50:30] the military, the Pentagon study. So and then another thing I'm just curious if you had direction about with this particular study is I looked back and I saw that cockpits were outfitted with the millimeter wave antenna starting back before 2010.
Right. And, and to me personally, it feels. like the millimeter wave is affecting our skin more. I mean, that's [00:51:00] an interesting point. That's a very interesting point. Let's talk about that. The millimeter wave does affect the skin more because it gets just a little bit into the skin, but the skin is our largest organ and turns out to have an immunological function that has not been widely appreciated.
Think about this. You get sunlight, you send out inside and you feel better when you're out in the light. Okay. Everybody gets a certain feeling of relaxation. Yes. Right. Yes. That's [00:51:30] because that sunlight to your skin gives you a systemic effect of well being. And it is understood just a little bit of exposure into your skin has an effect throughout the body.
So it's not that it only affects the skin, but it is true that the effect is primarily into the skin. We know that babies that are born with jaundice, that are a little bit yellow, we treat them by covering their eyes and exposing their little bodies [00:52:00] to blue light because that blue light takes the blood that's circulating into the surface of their skins and Creates vitamin D synthesis in the liver of these newborns from the blue light into the skin blue light in the skin affects the blood of those babies so that it forms dihydroxy vitamin D in the liver and has a systemic effect on those babies.
So light just [00:52:30] getting a little bit into the skin of the newborn affects how much vitamin D they produce. And when they produce more vitamin D, it gets rid of the jaundice. So, we understand there's a correlation. A direct causal, not just correlation. We know that blue light in the skin of the newborn produces vitamin D in their bloodstream.
So, the millimeter wave affecting the skin is affecting us holistically. [00:53:00] Correct. And the whole layering on of all these different frequencies, it's a, it's a hot button for me. Because my body just. freaks out with this even more so. And I think that I would like to encourage you to take a look at the work of Rina Bray.
That's R I I N A B R A Y at the Toronto Women's Hospital. She, and of course you know, um, Sharon Goldberg. Sure. Yeah, because they [00:53:30] have been reported some success in helping people to modulate their response so that you can have less, less reaction to the EMFs and that's, I think, very important. You know, it costs a lot of money to be electro sensitive.
Right? It does. I know. I know. You're fortunate. No, no. I understand. But think about all the people that don't know that they're having reactions to electromagnetic fields and being treated with psychoactive drugs [00:54:00] and, and other things. Exactly. I love that you brought that up. And it's, this is also my concern with the partial shielding is that they believe that they're doing something good and they're getting this.
false sense of security and they're not doing anything actually to change exposure and sometimes they're increasing it. In fact, almost every demonstration I do, it's an increase. And I fully agree with you on that. That's why I say that I don't generally use any of these small little devices because they may reduce the amount coming out of the [00:54:30] back of the phone and then increase it every place else.
Yeah. It's, there's so much to do. Anyway. Yep. Thank you. I cannot, I cannot tell you enough how much I appreciate this time. It's mutual. I want you to know that you really are a very critical part of what we need to do. And frankly, what we're hoping to do with the new team as the new team comes in place, and I'd like to introduce you to them.
If you haven't interviewed Kent Chamberlain, uh, or Rob Brown, you will really enjoy talking with them as well [00:55:00] because they have their own. Takes on things. Kent has developed modeling of the brain to show absorption, uh, as it moves through the brain. And Rob, of course, is a diagnostic radiologist can go toe to toe and explain why the myth that the only effect of microwaves is heat is wrong.
That's very important that people understand that. I would love to talk to Kent. I would love that. Devra, thank you so much. This has been a very enlightening conversation. [00:55:30] I'm so honored that you've been here and thank you for the continued work and congratulations to the Environmental Health Trust.
Well, thank you. I really appreciate it.
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Meditation, calming techniques, and the state of our nervous system take center stage as we explore Tony's wisdom on achieving optimal health. Uncover the intricate connection between our mindset and the body's ability to heal, offering valuable insights for those seeking a holistic approach to wellness.

But it's not just about personal health – we dissect the impact of technology on our lives. From EMFs and cybersecurity to online privacy and internet addiction, we leave no stone unturned. Tony's podcast, Zestology, has been a treasure trove of knowledge, and his diverse range of guests adds a rich layer to our exploration of vitality, energy, and motivation in daily life.

Join us on this enlightening journey as we navigate the ever-evolving landscape of technology and well-being, guided by Tony's wealth of knowledge and real-world experiences. It's a conversation that transcends the ordinary, offering actionable insights for anyone seeking a balanced and vibrant life.

Timestamps:

[00:01:39] Stop Scrolling book.

[00:04:24] Research on sleep and technology.

[00:07:00] Blue light blocking glasses.

[00:09:43] Acceptance of blue light exposure.

[00:12:45] Bright lights in sleep disruption.

[00:16:06] The sleep gate.

[00:20:00] Living ancestrally and primally.

[00:22:19] The healing power of light.

[00:25:07] Red light therapy and face masks.

[00:27:46] SPMs and gut health.

[00:31:31] Pattern interrupts and focus.

[00:35:05] Health and the parasympathetic nervous system.

[00:37:48] Energy Psychology and Tapping.

[00:43:02] Tapping as a stress relief.

[00:43:53] Health challenges and mold exposure.

[00:47:05] Mold prevention and awareness.

[00:49:48] Mold and EMF exposure.

[00:55:07] Mold exposure and health.

[00:57:39] Writing health books and podcasting.

Connect with Tony Wrighton:

Website

Instagram

Facebook

Book: Stop Scrolling

Podcast: Zestology

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes:

"You're looking at your phone for a less amount of time per day. And I make the point in the book that all the best things in the world do not involve screens." [00:03:11] – Tony Wrighton

"I choose to flow from moment to moment and accept because acceptance is almost like the opposite of control, and I think that's really important when it comes to health." [00:37:01] – Tony Wrighton
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Fatal Conveniences: Uncovering the Harmful Side of Everyday Products with Darin Olien
1 nov 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Our special guest, Darin Olien, joins us for the second part of an incredible conversation. If you caught the last episode, you already know that it was an amazing half-hour filled with insights and inspiration. But if you missed it, don't worry! Darin shares his journey of writing the book "Fatal Conveniences" and delves into the harmful effects of EMF and other everyday conveniences that may be harming us. It's a thought-provoking exploration that will leave you questioning the impact of these conveniences on your own life.

The discussion takes a serious turn as we address the issue of environmental toxins. We learn that these toxins can have a significant impact on our health, and it's a matter that deserves our attention. It's alarming to learn how much of it is present in our daily lives. But don't worry, this conversation is not overwhelming. We provide practical tips and solutions that you can implement to minimize exposure and live a healthier life.

Throughout the episode, we emphasize the importance of taking control of our tech wellness. We don't want you to be afraid, but rather empowered to make smart changes that will benefit your overall well-being. Our goal is to provide you with the knowledge and tools to make informed decisions about your tech usage and overall wellness. It's all about finding a balance and making mindful choices that align with your values and goals. As our guest, Darin, points out, he's living proof that taking control and making these changes can lead to a fit and amazing life.

Timestamps

[00:02:11] Environmental toxins and chronic illnesses.

[00:05:20] Effects of millimeter wave.

[00:05:28] Toxicity of wireless radiation is affecting our biology.

[00:08:11] Cell phone towers near schools.

[00:12:07] Baru nuts and environmental impact.

Links Mentioned

Baru Nuts: https://darinolien.com/incredible-baru-nut-offers-nutritional-environmental-benefits/

Darin Olien’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/darinolien/

Darin Olien’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChChkcEaG50UCNbSNZ45uDQ

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"The millimeter waves in the 5G now, it requires that there's more towers and the number of towers is so mind boggling. And to your point, it’s not that the 1, 2, 3G, 4G has gone away. It's not that the smart devices have gone away. It's not that it has taken over the Wi-Fi. It is in addition to." [00:03:19] – Darin Olien

"And it's, again, proximity and duration is a very, very important thing for people to get. And similar to you, I saw it, and when you look at those studies, it's as if it is a chemical exposure. It is as if it is smoke. Because that's the response that you're seeing. And then you look at the sperm and the motility and the viability and testosterone going down. It's like, what the hell?" [00:07:07] – Darin Olien

"I think that that's going to be wonderful as more and more people hear about this and then exercise their right to make these decisions. And a really easy decision is to turn your Wi-Fi off at night. If your home isn't filled with its own Wi-Fi radiation, you're going to sleep so much better. Plus, you don't have to worry about the kids getting up and going online." [00:10:20] – August Brice
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The Alarming Truth About Electromagnetic Fields and Invisible Radiations with Darin Olien
26 okt 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Toxic conveniences harm our health. In today's digital world, we are surrounded by technology and convenience. From smartphones to fast food, these conveniences have become an integral part of our lives. However, what many people fail to realize is that these conveniences can also have harmful effects on our health. This is the main message conveyed in this episode featuring Darin Olien.

Darin, co-host of the hit Netflix series "Down to Earth," is a true inspiration when it comes to living a mindful life in a digital world. He has not only written the New York Times bestseller, "Super Life," but he also shares his wisdom and experiences in his podcast and delves into the concept of "Fatal Conveniences." His knowledge and passion for navigating tech toxins and promoting digital wellness are truly remarkable.

During our conversation, we dive deep into the world of electromagnetic fields and invisible radiations, shedding light on the alarming effects they can have on our well-being. Darin’s insights and experiences will leave you shocked, yet motivated to spread awareness about this important issue.

This episode is a two-part special, and we couldn't be more excited to share it with you. Darin’s commitment to living in alignment with his beliefs and values is truly inspiring, and we know you'll find his perspective invaluable.

Timestamps

[00:01:44] Darin’s hit Netflix series.

[00:04:10] Awareness of tech toxins.

[00:04:39] Toxic chemicals in clothing.

[00:08:09] EMF sensitivity is a growing concern.

[00:08:20] Electromagnetic smog pollution.

[00:11:31] Tech toxins and EMF awareness.

Links Mentioned

SuperLife Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/SuperLife-Simple-Healthy-Eternally-Awesome/dp/0062297198

SuperLife Kindle Edition: https://www.amazon.com/SuperLife-Forces-Healthy-Eternally-Awesome-ebook/dp/B00FJ3A468

Fatal Conveniences Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Conveniences-Harmful-Products-Sick_and/dp/0063114534

Fatal Conveniences Kindle Edition: https://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Conveniences-Harmful-Products-Sick-ebook/dp/B0B399QGNT

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"You, more than me, have been dealing with something that is invisible to our world and is so crazy and alarming. I still get alarmed the more I look into this stuff, electromagnetic fields and invisible radiations." [00:05:06] – Darin Olien

"Organizations like the WHO is trying to get electro sensitivity on their docket as a condition, whether that shit really makes a difference at all. But at least they, you know, they acknowledge, right, that this growing population. And to your point, this growing electromagnetic smog pollution is only increasing." [00:07:55] – Darin Olien

"We can control our obsessions and our usage, but also the privacy things. We have things that we can do to keep our data more protected. But the EMF, with all these new antennas that are everywhere, we're really just walking around in a toxic soup." [00:12:00] – August Brice
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EMF Sensitivity Syndrome: The Hidden Dangers of Technology
29 aug 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
EMF sensitivity, also known as Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity (EHS), is a condition in which individuals experience adverse health effects when exposed to Electromagnetic Fields (EMFs) from various electronic devices and technologies. In this episode, we explore the story of Laura, who reached out to us with concerns about her husband's sudden onset of EMF sensitivity.

Can you imagine waking up one day and being unable to get out of bed, plagued by excruciating headaches that worsen with every workday? It's a reality for many individuals suffering from EMF sensitivity. This condition affects many people, and it's crucial that we understand its dangers.

Laura's experience with EMF sensitivity syndrome will leave you inspired and empowered. She discovered Tech Wellness and booked a consultation with us. The hour-long conversation resulted in life-changing advice and strategies that made a dramatic difference for her husband.

This eye-opening episode sheds light on the dangers of electromagnetic fields and the importance of understanding and addressing them. If you're curious to learn more about EMF sensitivity syndrome and how to protect yourself and your loved ones, we highly recommend giving this episode a listen.

As a science-led podcast, we encourage you to do your own research and gain a deeper understanding of the science behind EMF sensitivity. Our goal is to provide you with practical approaches to navigate the tech toxins in our world, ensuring mindful living in a digital era.

Timestamps

[00:03:18] Electromagnetic fields and health.

[00:04:27] EMF sensitivity symptoms.

[00:09:22] Grounding and its importance.

[00:11:57] Social media and parenting.

[00:14:10] The Family Social Media Success Plan.

[00:19:01] Grounding and EMF effects.

[00:23:11] Researching EMF protection scams.

[00:26:23] Grounding for better health.

[00:28:02] Living a healthier lifestyle.

Links Mentioned

Family Social Media Success Plan: https://techwellness.com/products/family-social-media-success-plan

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"And I said, you know what, we're just going to book an appointment and we're going to get to the bottom of this. So, we're not going to live like this. We're going to figure out some answers. We're not doing the, cause he was looking at retiring. He was looking at just stopping working altogether." [00:06:31] – Laura

"If you are going through this, that you're not alone. There's a whole community of people, my husband and I and August that love to help others to get beyond their symptoms and get back to something resembling, you know, normal." [00:22:52] – Laura

"If you don't believe that EMS are a problem or affecting you, people are in denial because it's real.” [00:25:05] – Laura
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The Eye-Opening Truth About 5G: What You Need to Know
22 aug 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Were you aware that 5G has become incredibly prevalent, especially in major cities? It's truly fascinating to observe how widespread the adoption of 5G has become and its subsequent impact on our surroundings. In this episode, we shed light on the importance of understanding 5G, its implications for our well-being, and the potential effects it might exert on our health.

Join us, August Brice, along with my partner Hal Brice, as we express valid concerns regarding the potential health ramifications of 5G technology, specifically focusing on the millimeter wave aspect. The limited research on the non-thermal consequences of these waves, combined with the proximity of 5G towers to residential areas, raises considerable worries. Staying well-informed about the technology integrated into our devices and taking precautionary measures to mitigate potential risks is of paramount importance.

Furthermore, we delve into the adverse effects of social media on children and underscore the significance of equipping them to cope with these potential challenges. Did you know that social media exposure can trigger sensations of FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out), social comparison, and anxiety, all of which can detrimentally affect a child's self-esteem and overall well-being? These unfavorable effects have the potential to impede a child's future success; hence, we emphasize the necessity for parents to actively educate themselves and their children about social media, as it stands as one of the most significant parenting challenges in the digital era.

Moreover, we explore several practices that can bolster your body's defenses and assist in minimizing exposure to tech toxins. Techniques such as deep breathing, yoga, grounding, and other wellness strategies can serve as effective countermeasures against the adverse impacts of technology on our health.

Tune in as we provide actionable tips and present non-fear-based facts, all aimed at helping you cultivate a state of mindfulness while navigating the digital landscape. Make sure not to miss this enlightening discussion!

Timestamps

[00:00:00] Legal cases and cell phones.

[00:06:23] Effects of wireless waves.

[00:07:29] Health effects of millimeter wave.

[00:13:46] 5G technology and urban areas.

[00:17:29] The impact of giving kids phones.

[00:20:09] The man of your dreams.

[00:24:08] 5G millimeter wave exposure.

[00:29:28] Health effects of wireless technology.

[00:30:33] Electromagnetic hypersensitivity and wifi installation.

[00:33:05] Electromagnetic field sensitivity.

Links Mentioned

Family Social Media Plan: https://techwellness.com/products/family-social-media-success-plan

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"Those effects that we're having on our body aren't because we're heating up, but because this invisible energy is manifesting different issues with our biology. Basically, it's affecting our systems." [00:07:59] – August Brice

"So, you can shield your home. You can shield your bedroom. You can sleep in a canopy. But is that fair? Is that right? Is that good for us? It's better than being exposed to it, but it really isn't the way that we were supposed to live.” [00:24:22] – August Brice

"So meanwhile, imagine these guys think, and women think that they're doing a great service to humanity by speeding up the bandwidth and by making things download faster. To them, this is their life's calling. Their job is to make things faster, but they have zero regard for any potential or possible health effects from the electromagnetic fields.” [00:26:31] – Hal Brice

"It is definitely an eye-opening experience to see what 5G is and where it is, which is practically everywhere in most major cities that we've been to." [00:35:05] – Hal Brice
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Protecting Your Online Privacy: Is It Even Possible? with Bryan Neumeister
15 aug 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Phone security and privacy have become increasingly important in today's digital age. With the widespread use of smartphones and the vast amount of personal information stored on these devices, it is crucial to take steps to protect oneself from potential threats. In today’s episode, we delve into the topic of phone security and privacy, providing valuable insights and tips to safeguard your personal information.

We are joined today by a special guest, Bryan Neumeister, an expert in digital forensics who works in law enforcement and has extensive experience in retrieving digital evidence for various purposes. He shares fascinating insights and stories about the importance of safeguarding your personal information in this digital age.

From software updates to new versions of operating systems, staying on top of the latest developments is crucial. Discover how Bryan and his team dedicate hours of research each day to ensure they can navigate the ever-changing digital landscape.

We also tackle the important topic of preparing kids for social media and the potential challenges they may face. Bryan introduces a plan that provides a roadmap for parents to guide their children through the world of social media, ensuring they have a positive and successful experience.

Additionally, we discuss the potential risks associated with popular email programs and shed light on a startling discovery about Gmail. Did you know that every word you type on Gmail is saved on their servers, even if you delete it? We explore this issue and offer recommendations for email programs that prioritize your privacy.

So, tune in as we discuss the importance of safeguarding your privacy online. With real-life stories and non-fear-based facts, we provide practical tips and strategies to navigate the tech toxins that can compromise your online privacy. Learn how to make informed choices and protect your personal information.

Timestamps

[00:02:00] Digital forensics is constantly evolving.

[00:05:45] Data forgery and Photoshop.

[00:08:57] The cell phone as a cesspool of the soul.

[00:10:42] Turning off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.

[00:14:45] Spyware on smartphones.

[00:17:36] Forensic evidence in homicide case.

[00:19:38] Privacy and secure communication.

[00:24:00] The Family Social Media Success Plan.

[00:30:14] Are smart devices dangerous?

[00:32:23] Wireless security and Faraday bags.

[00:34:43] Protecting data and servers.

[00:38:33] Webcam and microphone security.

[00:41:41] Email privacy and data ownership.

[00:44:27] Day to day data protection.

Links Mentioned

Website: https://www.usaforensic.com/

Family Social Media Plan: https://techwellness.com/products/family-social-media-success-plan

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"I tell you this, any credit card number you've ever put in your phone, any bank password, anything you've ever put in your phone, I've got. If I had your phone, it doesn't go away. I'll find the password to every account you have on your phone." [00:15:35] –Bryan Neumeister

"It's just inviting people to spy on you. They're so easy to hack. I can see where they're helpful for some elderly person needing to turn on lights or stuff. We have a situation like that in our family and it's great. However, they're not discussing work things. I would never have one in a workplace or in a private conversation area. They're too easy.” [00:30:18] – Bryan Neumeister

"You have to be very careful to control your data. Think of your data as your most important asset of privacy. So, you're definitely going to want to have every way you can to protect it." [00:34:36] – Bryan Neumeister
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Myth Buster - Mysterious Shungite As EMF Protection with Ken Swartz
8 aug 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Research shows EMF exposure causes oxidative stress. One Scientist’s journey with an antioxidant that was so powerful, he created his own company. This episode is FASCINATING (especially for all those science nerds out there like me).

I came into this interview with a TON of questions and a desire to bust some myths about the ever-mysterious shungite as EMF protection.

Here’s what it is all about - Research shows that one of the mechanisms of damage from EMFs is oxidative stress due to cell disregulation. Meaning our cells don’t “gate” properly which means they aren’t opening and closing exactly as they should. This leads to a cascade effect of oxidative stress - a term we hear a lot in the non-toxic world.

There are many types of antioxidants, but C60 is one that has become very popular in the last few years. To be honest, for a long time I avoided C60 because I had seen it discussed in shungite literature as a special component of shungite - and as the research is very very weak when it comes to the “EMF Protection” capabilities’ of shungite I steered clear of anything having to do with it. However, then I met Ken Swartz - A Fusion Energy inventor and multiple patent holder who happened on to the power of the C60 molecule in an effort to curb the effects of radiation exposure from his lab.

He became such a fan that he created his own C60 product and contributes to the C60.org website that provides education only on behalf of all C60 companies in an effort to separate the myth from reality by providing a source for all the research on the topic.

He’s tested several different Karelian shungite products for C60 and he shares his findings and helps us understand the confusion around fullerenes, C60 and shungite as well as explaining how c60 works.

NOTE: This is not a recommendation or endorsement of this antioxidant, I just wanted to share with you all the insight I received around the many questions I had.

Welcome to Thriving with Technology, the science-led podcast that helps you achieve mindful living in a digital world. August Brice is the founder of Tech Wellness and your host on this weekly adventure. We give you practical tools to limit your tech toxin exposure and prioritize your health without sacrificing technology.

In each episode, we interview passionate leaders in the health and technology space who give you the tools to navigate and thrive within our technology-driven world. Our goal is to demystify the dangers of tech and bring you practical advice to protect yourself from EMFs, blue light, internet overuse, and how to recognize the signs of tech addiction.

Timestamps:

[00:02:26] The biggest EMF scams.

[00:03:19] EMF protection misconceptions.

[00:17:30] Shungite's bio-energetic capability.

[00:19:23] 5G and cell damage.

[00:23:27] C-60 and extended lifespan.

[00:31:23] Adrenals and hormone function.

[00:41:36] C-60 and cognitive decline.

[00:50:20] The truth about shungite.

[00:53:19] High-quality skincare products.

[00:56:59] The difference between gummies and oil.

Links Mentioned:

Website: https://shopc60.com/

For more information, resources, and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"And they basically gave one set of rats C60. The other set didn't. That's the control group. They hit it with a multiple dose of fatal radiation. All the C60 rats live, whereas the control group that didn't get it died." [00:08:10] – Ken Swartz

"C60 is the only antioxidant you can take that will increase athletic performance.” [00:27:28] – Ken Swartz

"Our body's designed to have one omega three for one omega six. Right now, people with all these seed oils, they're taking 20 omega sixes to two omega one omega threes. And that's super inflammatory. In fact, it's one of the leading causes of health problems in today's population." [00:45:45] – Ken Swartz
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Gen Z and Screen Time : This 18 Year Old has a lot to say about his Generations Addiction to Technology
1 aug 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Welcome to Thriving with Technology, the podcast that's all about living mindfully in a digital world! I'm your host, August Brice, the founder of Tech Wellness, and I'm thrilled to have you join me on this weekly adventure. Our mission is to empower you with practical tools to limit your exposure to tech toxins and prioritize your health, all while embracing the wonders of technology.

In each episode, we chat with passionate leaders in the health and technology space who share invaluable insights for navigating and thriving in our tech-driven world. Together, we'll demystify the potential dangers of technology and offer practical advice on protecting yourself from EMFs, blue light, internet overuse, and even recognizing the signs of tech addiction.

Let's face it, in today's digital age, it's all too common to see people glued to their screens – be it smartphones, tablets, or laptops. The allure of technology and the vast stream of information it provides can be incredibly captivating, often leading to a disconnection from the present moment and the people around us. But fear not! We have incredible individuals like our guest today, the amazing Gary Davidson II, who reminds us that it's possible to disconnect from screens and embrace mindfulness.

Gary, despite being an 18-year-old high school senior, offers a fresh perspective on technology that sets him apart from his peers. He is set apart from his peers as he observes and reflects on Gen Z’s relationship with technology and the affects of technology. He shares his experiences, insights, and practical tips for navigating the tech toxins that surround us. It's truly inspiring to hear how he approaches addiction in the digital age and the wisdom he imparts.

Prepare to be motivated as Gary discusses his personal struggle with social media addiction and the constant pull it exerts on our attention. He emphasizes the significance of always striving to become the best version of ourselves, whether it's in terms of success, health, or personal growth.

Parents, this episode is an absolute must-listen! We'll equip you with the tools and knowledge to help your children responsibly and mindfully navigate the digital world. And even if you're not a parent, trust me when I say there's something valuable here for everyone. We all need to strike a balance between technology and mindful living.

So sit back, relax, and get ready to soak up the positive energy and practical wisdom that Gary has to offer. Let's embark on this journey of thriving with technology together!

Timestamps

[00:00:09] Disconnecting from screens at night.

[00:05:12] Relationship with technology and discipline.

[00:07:25] Transitioning away from addiction.

[00:11:30] Unconscious addiction to technology.

[00:15:28] Blue light and circadian rhythm.

[00:17:03] Lack of self-identity.

[00:20:21] Self-esteem and technology addiction.

[00:23:48] Addiction to social media.

[00:27:18] Being a trailblazer.

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"I know how bad it is to go on your phone instantly in the morning and getting just bombarded with dopamine from all types of sources. I try in the first hour of the morning not to even touch it." [00:13:35] – Gary Davidson II

"I think that you have to approach it with some level of respect and middle ground and understanding that we're human and we make mistakes and that we can fall into addiction so easily without even knowing it, especially this one because it's something that most of our society probably wouldn't even consider addiction.” [00:21:33] – Gary Davidson II

"I think the best way to get somebody else to do something is probably to be doing it yourself and show that you walk the walk, showing that if you want somebody else to do something, you should be doing it and your results will speak for itself and someone else will see." [00:25:29] – Gary Davidson II
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Smartphones and WiFi Made Them Sick: Conversations with people who have EMF Sensitivity Syndrome or EHS
25 jul 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Welcome back to our special episode on Thriving with Tech and Wellness as we look at the unseen dangers of smartphones and WiFi. You won't believe how this wireless energy can impact our health! Join me, August Brice, as I share stories from regular, healthy folks who've experienced headaches, anxiety, rashes, and more because of electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS).

We attended a Global Conference and guess what? There's well-documented research showing the biological effect of EMF on all of us. It's been well-documented over the last 30 years. Here's a compilation of some of our latest Research Findings. The scientists we spoke with say the question of whether or not EMF is a public health concern was answered years ago. It's time we take precautionary steps!

Let's be smart about it, just like we use sunscreen in the sun! Enjoy the episode, and if you find it helpful, please like us on the iTunes Store and share the message with your loved ones.

Timestamps:

[0:00:05] Introduction to the podcast and conference on electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS)

[0:00:59] Importance of understanding EHS and its potential impact on health

[0:02:18] Personal stories of individuals experiencing symptoms of EHS

[0:06:22] Biological effects of electromagnetic radiation and the need for precautionary measures

[0:09:47] Comparison of electromagnetic radiation to other toxins and the need for awareness

[0:11:21] Positive outlook for the future and the importance of spreading awareness

[0:13:12] EHS as an early warning system for the potential harm of EMF

[0:18:01] Conclusion and call to action for mindful living with technology

Check out our helpful resources here:

EMF GUIDE: https://techwellness.com/blogs/expertise/emf-meaning-expert-guide-what-is-effects-on-body

EHS GUIDE: https://techwellness.com/blogs/expertise/emf-sensitivity-syndrome-symptoms-cure

EMF PROTECTION SOLUTIONS: https://techwellness.com/collections/best-emf-protection

Memorable Quotes

"Modern telecommunication microwave radiations are very bioactive. DNA damage is the worst scenario. And unfortunately, these types of radiations do cause DNA damage." - Demetrius Panagopoulos

"If you told parents that you were going to have DDT, diesel fuel, welding fumes, and organic solvents dispensed into their kids' classroom, you'd have a riot. But if you say the class will have a very powerful WiFi, they say, oh, good." - Professor Olle Johansson

"I am still there. You know what I mean? I am still there. And it suppresses everything in a way." - Anonymous individual with EHS
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Intentional Parenting in the Digital Age: A Real Mom's Journey to Eliminating Tech Toxins with Alexis Fedor
4 jul 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Welcome to Thriving with Technology, the science-led podcast that helps you achieve mindful living in a digital world. August Brice is the founder of Tech Wellness and your host on this weekly adventure. We give you practical tools to limit your tech toxin exposure and prioritize your health without sacrificing technology.

In each episode, we interview passionate leaders in the health and technology space who give you the tools to navigate and thrive within our technology-driven world. Our goal is to demystify the dangers of tech and bring you practical advice to protect yourself from EMFs, blue light, internet overuse, and how to recognize the signs of tech addiction.

In today's digital age, where technology is an integral part of our lives, the effects of Wi-Fi on our health and well-being are often overlooked. However, an increasing number of individuals are recognizing the potential impact of electromagnetic fields (EMFs) and transformative effects of turning off Wi-Fi on sleep quality.

In this episode, Alexis Fedor, a mother of three young children, shares her experience of living healthier with technology. Alexis discusses the radical changes she observed in her children after turning off the Wi-Fi and eliminating tech toxins from their lives and highlights the importance of reducing EMF exposure for children. Today’s discussion emphasizes the need for parents to prioritize their children's sleeping environment and make conscious decisions about the products they use to minimize exposure to toxins.

While it may not be possible to control every aspect of a child's life, finding a balance between health and enjoyment is crucial. By being informed and making mindful choices, parents can create a healthier environment for their children to thrive in. This inspiring conversation offers encouragement and practical advice for parents navigating the challenges of raising children in a digital world. Tune in to learn how mindful living can positively impact your family's well-being.

Timestamps

[00:02:00] Turning off Wi-Fi for better sleep.

[00:04:29] Sensitivity to EMF radiation.

[00:09:29] EMF exposure and its effects.

[00:12:31] Unhealthy screen behavior and consequences.

[00:14:47] Healthy screening rules.

[00:19:43] Screens and screen time.

[00:21:27] Reducing EMF exposure for kids.

[00:25:11] Making decisions with wisdom.

Links Mentioned

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"I have decided a lot to make these one-time decisions that have large impacts on our family.

So, we've looked at schools in the past and there has been 5G towers right across the street from the school. And that was a big no, even no matter how much we loved the school. My kid was not going to be there for 30 plus hours a week next to a 5G tower." [00:08:44] – Alexis Fedor

"He made the decision to get rid of the app. He even went to his Nana and said, Nana, I want you to delete the app because it's not helping. It gives me bad dreams. I don't like the way it makes me feel.” [00:12:55] – Alexis Fedor

"The constant changing of the screen, the color, the music, it feels like you're on drugs. Even as an adult. I watched this stuff and I'm perplexed that kids could even sit in front of this and for hours and hours, and then you take 'em away and then they have meltdowns." [00:15:42] – Alexis Fedor
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Kids Addicted to Screen Time? A Guide to Screen-Free Summers with a Mom of 5
27 jun 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Welcome to Thriving with Technology, the science-led podcast that helps you achieve mindful living in a digital world. August Brice is the founder of Tech Wellness and your host on this weekly adventure. We give you practical tools to limit your tech toxin exposure and prioritize your health without sacrificing technology.

In each episode, we interview passionate leaders in the health and technology space who give you the tools to navigate and thrive within our technology-driven world. Our goal is to demystify the dangers of tech and bring you practical advice to protect yourself from EMFs, blue light, internet overuse, and how to recognize the signs of tech addiction.

As the summer months approach, parents face the challenge of keeping their children entertained and engaged without relying on screens. For many families, screens have become a default option for keeping kids occupied, but the negative effects of excessive screen time on children's physical, mental, and emotional health are well documented. In this episode, we'll explore how one family has successfully implemented a screen-free summer and offer practical tips for parents who want to do the same.

Jennifer Sitterud, a mother of five, blogger, and influencer, shares her experience on how she manages to keep her children engaged and occupied without screens and how it has helped her children bond and get along better with each other. She offers valuable insights into the benefits of limiting screen time for children's brain development and social skills.

Her tips for parents who want to have a screen-free summer with their children, including being intentional with time and activities, managing the transition back to screens, and encouraging problem-solving and communication skills, are practical and helpful. Jen's free resources on her blog and her willingness to offer support and advice to parents make her a valuable resource for families looking to reduce screen time and increase family bonding.

Timestamps

00:02:50 Jen's family and decision to go screen-free during her pregnancy

00:04:30 Adjustment to screen-free summers each year

00:06:40 Preparing for a screen-free summer and being more present

00:09:50 Importance, benefits, and effects of screen-free summers

00:12:35 Importance of limiting screen time for teenagers and the impact on mental health

00:17:10 Jennifer's rules for her son's phone use

00:18:15 Activities to do during a screen-free summer

00:21:50 Difficulty adjusting to screen-free summers and benefits of establishing a routine

00:25:45 Empowerment during screen-free summers and impact on kids' brain development

00:27:05 Positive feedback from parents who tried it and dealing with criticism from other parents

00:30:30 Dealing with tricky situations when kids don't have phones like getting a hold of kids

00:34:15 Managing social media and guiding kids on social comparison

00:37:15 Consideration of health effects of electromagnetic fields and blue light and impact on sleep patterns

Links Mentioned

Blog: https://tutusandjerseys.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tutusandjerseys/

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"I tell my kids all the time, that's how I grew up! We grew up outside exploring, creating, and I have some wonderful childhood memories." [00:04:14] - Jennifer Sitterud

"Get through that first week. Everyone gets a little more cranky and you're breaking these habits, but you get to that first week and you start that next week. It feels so good by the second, third weekend - I get outta the habit of checking my phone. I don't feel the need to check my phone and I'm just more present." [00:07:39] - Jennifer Sitterud

"Within the first few weeks of us going screen-free, they (the kids) really get along better because they have those opportunities to play with each other, to imagine things to create.” [00:09:58] - Jennifer Sitterud
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EMF Protection Scams and Removing Hidden Toxins in your Home with Ryan Blaser
20 jun 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
In today’s episode, we'll explore the insights of Ryan Blaser, a certified building biologist, engineer, and founder of Test My Home, a company that helps people locate and reduce environmental toxins in homes.

Ryan's expertise in building biology and engineering provides valuable insights on reducing exposure to environmental toxins in our homes. By addressing issues such as EMFs, mold, water contamination, and air quality, we can create a healthier living environment. He emphasizes the importance of reducing exposure to these toxins and using technology wisely. By following his recommendations, we can make our homes a sanctuary for our well-being.

Thriving with Technology is the science-led podcast that helps you achieve mindful living in a digital world. August Brice is the founder of Tech Wellness and your host on this weekly adventure. We give you practical tools to limit your tech toxin exposure and prioritize your health without sacrificing technology.

In each episode, we interview passionate leaders in the health and technology space who give you the tools to navigate and thrive within our technology-driven world. Our goal is to demystify the dangers of tech and bring you practical advice to protect yourself from EMFs, blue light, internet overuse, and how to recognize the signs of tech addiction.

As technology continues to advance, we find ourselves surrounded by more and more environmental toxins in our homes. These toxins can come in many forms, from electromagnetic fields (EMFs) to mold and water impurities. With the rise of health concerns related to these toxins, it's more important than ever to create a healthy home environment.

Timestamps

00:02:55 Importance of having a qualified expert

00:05:30 EMF Protection: What works and what is a scam

00:12:20 Importance of paying attention to lighting in the home

00:14:20 The dangers of mold and how to identify and address it

00:22:10 Ventilation and managing airflow in homes

00:25:45 Water contamination and the importance of water purification

00:29:10 Smart appliances and the importance of simplifying technology

00:32:50 The top ways to prevent mold

00:34:00 Importance of a mindset change to live healthily and the need to make a shift

Links Mentioned

Website: https://www.testmyhome.com/

Instagram: https://instagram.com/testmyhome

Environmental Working Group: https://www.ewg.org/

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"And having a qualified expert come out to your home and tell you all the ways that you can make your home healthier is so important these days." [00:03:21] -August Bryce

"Mold and EMF are the two biggest problems I run into. And then chemical usage is right behind that. And then lack of, uh, fresh air is probably the fourth biggest thing. Those are the big ones.” [00:14:37] -Ryan Blazer

"And it's even best you wanna start young, that's when things start accumulating in your body and when you're young you can take a lot, but you start filling up that toxic bucket, that toxic load, eventually one day it's gonna overflow and now you're gonna have to backtrack and it's a lot easier to prevent than it is to try to detox all this stuff." [00:27:13] -Ryan Blazer
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Child Exploitation on Social Media-Parents Using Kids For Content and Profit With Mom Uncharted
13 jun 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Should You Be Sharing Your Children on Social Media?

Welcome to Thriving with Technology, the science-led podcast that helps you achieve mindful living in a digital world. August Brice is the founder of Tech Wellness and your host on this weekly adventure. We give you practical tools to limit your tech toxin exposure and prioritize your health without sacrificing technology.

In each episode, we interview passionate leaders in the health and technology space who give you the tools to navigate and thrive within our technology-driven world. Our goal is to demystify the dangers of tech and bring you practical advice to protect yourself from EMFs, blue light, internet overuse, and how to recognize the signs of tech addiction.

In this podcast, Thriving with Technology is back with another insightful episode! This week, host August Bryce talks to Sarah, aka Mom Uncharted, about the dangers of oversharing your children on social media.

Sarah is an advocate for child safety who explores the dangers of parental public oversharing and child exploitation on social media. While acknowledging the need for connection and understanding among new parents, Sarah reminds listeners that it can be done without sharing images of children or intimate details of their lives. With a strong community of 240,000 followers on TikTok, Sarah's message on child safety and privacy has resonated with millions of viewers.

This episode offers practical advice for navigating the potential dangers of social media and achieving mindful living in a digital world. As a parent, it can be tempting to share every moment of your child's life online, but Sarah reminds us that there are risks with all types of sharing online and urges parents to be mindful and cautious of what they post, especially when it comes to their children.

If you're a parent who's struggling to find the balance between sharing and privacy, or if you're interested in learning more about child safety on social media, then this episode is for you. Join us as we discuss various aspects of parenting in the digital age and suggest alternative ways for parents to connect with others without compromising their children's privacy.

Timestamps

00:03:20 Oversharing on Social Media
00:05:10 Fetishizing Children's Content
00:08:10 Online Popularity vs. Child Safety
00:11:30 Legal and Ethical Implications
00:16:10 Oversharing Children on Social Media
00:19:10 Digital Footprint and Success
00:23:00 Digital Safety for Children
00:27:00 Parenting and Digital Detox
00:32:20 Kids' Mental Health
00:34:30 Children's Right to Privacy

Links Mentioned

Sarah's TikTok: @momuncharted

Teen Vogue article: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/mom-uncharted-tiktok-child-safety

Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/06/22/social-media-parenting-oversharing/

CBC Radio interview: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-50-daybreak-montreal/clip/15857613-mom-uncharted-shares-her-concerns-about-parental-oversharing-on-social-media

New York Post article: https://nypost.com/2021/06/22/mom-exposes-dangers-of-parental-oversharing-on-social-media/

Dr. Phil appearance: https://www.drphil.com/videos/mom-uncharted-explains-why-she-believes-parents-shouldnt-share-their-kids-on-social-media/

The Wifi Kill Switch from TechWellness.com

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

"Sadly, content of children is pushed to two streams of individuals. You know, the parents and the individuals who find babies cute and are in that, you know, realm, parenting, babysitting world. And then there's like the worst people in society who fetishize children." [00:05:37] -Sarah, Mom Uncharted

"I just want us as parents to be more mindful that our children deserve dignity and respect and they're autonomous human beings and we're developing a digital footprint for them and their right to privacy and informed consent and digital safety. It matters, right?" [00:29:56] -Sarah, Mom Uncharted

"Kids aren't content. Kids are merely trying to exist and navigate this world as we are, and we need to treat them with dignity and respect.” [00:34:45] -Sarah, Mom Uncharted
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The EMF - Cancer Connection with Dr. Connealy
6 jun 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Self-Care is The New Health Care

Welcome to Thriving with Technology, the science-led podcast that helps you achieve mindful living in a digital world. August Brice is the founder of Tech Wellness and your host on this weekly adventure. We give you practical tools to limit your tech toxin exposure and prioritize your health without sacrificing technology.

In each episode, we interview passionate leaders in the health and technology space who give you the tools to navigate and thrive within our technology-driven world. Our goal is to demystify the dangers of tech and bring you practical advice to protect yourself from EMFs, blue light, internet overuse, and how to recognize the signs of tech addiction.

Today’s guest is Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy, author of The Cancer Revolution and founder of The Center for New Medicine and The Cancer Center for Healing. She warns that humanity faces a critical health emergency with rising cancer rates, EMF exposure, and staggering mental health statistics at the root of many chronic illnesses.

The rise of stress and the popularity of wireless technology has created a mass disease state trickling down to the youngest among us. In the past sixteen months alone, there has been a surge in cancer diagnoses among twenty to thirty-year-olds in the United States. Dr. Connealy teaches you the fundamentals of a healthy lifestyle so you can avoid getting sick in the first place.

Conventional medicine is reactionary by nature, and they are waiting for you to get sick. Every pill, treatment, and prescription has consequences, which is why Dr. Connealy is passionate about preventative care. Your health is a lifelong journey, and it starts today. Join us to hear Dr. Connealy’s top five tips for healthy living.

Timestamps

0:02:00 The Cancer Center for Healing
0:04:00 The State of American Health Care
0:06:00 The Rise of Cancer in American Youth
0:08:00 How EMF Affects the Human Body
0:12:00 Transitioning into Functional Medicine
0:15:00 How The Medical Industry Ignores Stress
0:17:30 Is Chemotherapy Necessary?
0:22:00 Taking Countermeasures for Each Medication
0:25:00 Self-Care is The New Health Care
0:32:00 Community is The Guru of The Future
0:34:40 Top Five Tips for Healthy Living

Links Mentioned

CancerCenterforHealing.com

CFNMedicine.com

The Cancer Revolution

Follow The Center for New Medicine on Instagram

The Wifi Kill Switch from TechWellness.com

For more information, resources and videos visit TechWellness.com

Memorable Quotes

“You can’t help somebody else, unless you’ve had unfavorable experiences, but you need to turn that unfavorable experience into something that’s truly going to bless yourself and bless someone else.” [17:40] -Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy

“That’s why we do countermeasures and counterbalancing with every single thing you do. If you’re going to do this medicine, you’ve got to do this counterbalancing, because every drug is a toxin. Every drug is intoxicating and damaging your body in some way.” [23:27] -Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy

“There is no finish line to health. That’s what people don’t understand. People think you’re done, you’re never done until you’re in your casket, ok. Health is a continuous living journey that you are working on all the time.” [26:19] -Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy
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Welcome to Thriving With Technology
24 maj 2023· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
The Thriving With Technology podcast from techwellness.com is dedicated to promoting awareness, balance, and health in our relationship with technology.

Although our current reality presents numerous challenges, we believe that it is possible to achieve a healthy and balanced relationship with tech without sacrificing convenience and connectivity.

Our podcast is informative, trustworthy, science-backed, and easy to understand. We bring in top experts to provide practical and not fear-based advice on EMF, blue light, addiction, cyber security, and other topics.

Our goal is to provide listeners with information and tools to live a healthier and more balanced life in our digital world. Join the movement at techwellness.com and subscribe to our show today!
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Johnny Depp's Digital Expert Bryan Neumeister--Our Exclusive Conversation About What Really Happened At The Depp-Heard Trial
15 jun 2022· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
Millions of people around the world tuned in online to witness the drama that was the defamation trial of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Bryan has been our Tech Wellness cyber security and online privacy expert for a number of years and he agreed to join us on Thriving With Technology to share some behind the scenes information about his experience as an expert witness during the trial. You'll be amazed when you hear about Johnny and Bryan's interaction before his testimony! Newsweek posted that Bryan's testimony was the second most important moment of the trial, right behind Depp talking about losing the tip of his finger! Bryan also uses his decades of experience to give us tips on how to keep our pictures, text messages and all of our onlife, as safe as they can possibly be. Here are some useful links for the items we discuss in the episode: Tech Wellness Website home page Techwellness Privacy Guide Our very popular, often updated privacy guide Tech Wellness Experts Our list of experts, including Bryan who guide us How a Faraday Bag Works If you have never had a Faraday Bag, this will explain how they work Faraday Bag Collection Our carefully curated collection How AirTube Headphones Work Our most popular product-very effective for blocking EMF SaferTech Airtube Headphones Our own proprietary version Most Private VPN Browse anonymously: Proton VPN If you don't have a VPN, it's time to get one. We love proton for their VPN and their secure email. NordVPN Another well-liked VPN Most Private Ad and Content Blocker: ONEBLOCK This app blocks ads and other content. You'll be amazed at what it blocks Hope you enjoy the conversation. If you have any questions about any of the issues discussed, email us at [email protected]
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She Won The Science Fair--And My Heart--With An Experiment about EMF's
28 jan 2022· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
I had the honor of connecting with the most incredible family. Although they have gone through unspeakable hardship and loss, they graciously opened up their story to me in this week’s podcast. I am so grateful I was able to speak to Kristine and her brilliant daughter Avila about her winning science fair project that was inspired by her dad’s battle with brain cancer and has led to them sharing the lessons learned about the effects of radiation. Please see the show notes below for links to Kristine's popular Instagram, research on EMF and how to get the Microgreen and meter package to try an EMF science experiment of your own. Join Kristine on Instagram and follow her inspirational journey: @lovekristinenicole website www.kristinenicole.com Link to our Science Fair Kit that includes one of our top EMF Meters and organic microgreens--everything you need for your home experiment to see the effects of EMF. Visit www.techwellness.com for more ways to live in balance with technology.
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Make it a Screen Free Summer This Year--Your Kids Might Just LOVE It! This Awesome Mom Will Show Us How.
16 jul 2021· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
if you've got kids and you've ever struggled with how to regulate their time online and more importantly, maintain a nice relationship with them, you're in for a real treat. Jennifer Sitterud is a brilliant mom I came across on Instagram. You can see her gorgeous family here: Tutus And Jerseys She posted something like, "Okay, we're logging off now. It's time for screen-free summer." And I thought, wow, really? What? How do you do that? So, I knew as we got into the thick of summer, it would be great to talk to Jen about how she actually does it and how she keeps the kids occupied and engaged. So, you can find a really fun, easy, practical discussion that shows you that you can make screen time free summers work for you, even if it's a screen-free summer week and build better relationships with your kids at the same time.

Jenn has some amazing FREE downloads to help you plan your screen free time here: Screen Free Summer Printables

A couple of other fun solutions from the Tech Wellness team: Our BIG TIME Tech Timekeeper. This very fun old school timer puts an element of fun into any activity and it when the kids are online, it shows them how much time they have left. It's our best cure for continuous scrolling and helps everyone achieve optimum focus! BIG TIME TECH TIMEKEEPER

And before you leave on vacation this year, don't forget to check out our newly updated WiFi-free Games for Kids. Lots of things to do without being connected to the internet: WIFI Free Games for Kids-2021
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Toss The Toxins! Marilee Nelson, Co-Founder of Branch Basics shows us how
6 jul 2021· Thriving With Technology – Tech Wellness
On today's episode, I'm welcoming Marilee Nelson. She's the founder of Branch Basics, human safe cleaning products. Branch Basics is fast becoming a household name. In fact, it's the only name that you're going to find on anything in my house that's used to clean-anything!

Branch Basics is giving you 15% off all Starter Kits with code TECHWELLNESS I hope you love using it as much as I do!

You're going to get to know Marilee today. And while she was dealt a very tough hand, she turned it around and turned that into her life's work, her passion, and really fabulous success. Can you imagine at just 23-years-old being told you're going to need a kidney transplant just to survive? After she said NO to that idea and healed herself with a new diet of clean foods, she was able to have a normal life and family. But THEN can you imagine having a perfectly healthy, adorable 10-year-old kid, who gets exposed to banned pesticides and overnight can't even do simple tasks? Well he is more than fine today, thanks to actions that Marilee took. That was the second chapter that led her to start Branch Basics.

Marilee is going to share how she turned this all around. How both she and her son became healthy, and well, and are doing great today. Marilee has helped so many people get better, feel better. And she does it by first simply having them toss the toxins from their lives. And you know what? You can do this too, because she's going to walk us through the basic, toxin tossing process. And yes, we're going to chat about the tech toxins too, like EMF's, which she definitely wants you to avoid.

Marilee's a board certified nutritionist, and a certified building biologist, and a materials building specialist. Wow, what an authority. And I'm so happy that you're going to listen in on our conversation, because her stories of healing give us really super practical tips. You're going to walk away knowing what to do next. We can incorporate this into our homes, for us, for all the people we love to feel better and thrive.
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