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Yet again, Dan and Ray are the podcast hosts, but Ray’s AI digital twin introduces the episode!
This week's guests are:
Lee Barrett – Prompt Engineer and AI Advocate at CEnet.Prem Radhakrishnan – AI Technical Manager at CEnet.
This episode is a two-level deep dive into the development and deployment of CEchat, an AI-powered chatbot designed to reduce teacher workload and enhance student learning across Catholic schools in Australia.
Part 1 of the episode covers the vision, pedagogy, and implementation strategy with both Lee and Prem.
Part 2 is a more technical discussion between Dan and Prem, covering codebase customisation, infrastructure, scale, security, and integration.
CEchat is an extended school-level implementation of Cogniti, the multi-award-winning open source chatbot from The University of Sydney. We interviewed Danny Liu about the project in this episode: https://aipodcast.education/the-university-of-sydneys-cogniti-ai-bot
They also discussed the Rome Call for AI Ethics, which you'll find here: https://www.romecall.org/
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News Stories Covered in the Episode
AI Typing Like a Human? – Graham Clay’s LinkedIn post on ChatGPT Operator mimicking human keystrokes
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7292163775963557888/The Vatican on AI Ethics – “Antiqua et Nova” report on AI, human intelligence, and ethics in education
Sacerdotus: Vatican's New Document on AI: Ethical Guidelines and Human ResponsibilityAustralian Government’s AI Study – Treasury report on Microsoft 365 Copilot, estimating it pays for itself if it saves 13 minutes per week
Treasury M365 Copilot review estimates 13-minute efficiency gain needed to justify licence cost - Software - iTnews
California State University & AI – Providing 500,000 stuents access to ChatGPT Edu
https://openai.com/index/openai-and-the-csu-system/Estonia’s AI Strategy – National AI policy giving all students access to AI tutors https://openai.com/index/estonia-schools-and-chatgpt/
Australia’s New National AI Centre Director – ex-podcast co-host Lee Hicken appointed to lead the centre. For those keeping count, that's the second of the podcast hosts that's now at NAIC, with current hosts Dan & Ray still waiting for the call 😂
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7306940399086903296/
Manus AI Release – A new AI system focused on reasoning and conversation
McKay Wrigley's X postResearch Papers Discussed
"From chalkboards to chatbots: Transforming learning in Nigeria, one prompt at a time" – World Bank blog on AI tutoring in Nigeria, claiming two years of learning gains in six weeks.
https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/education/From-chalkboards-to-chatbots-Transforming-learning-in-NigeriaWe discussed Ethan Mollick's LinkedIn post focusing on the multiple controlled experiments showing that students can be helped or harmed based on how they use AI
“AI Meets the Classroom: When Does ChatGPT Harm Learning?” – Study on ChatGPT’s impact on learning; found that using AI without explanations led to weaker long-term retention.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.09047v1“Generative AI Can Help Learning” – AI tutors improve test results but can hinder deeper learning if students rely too much on direct answers
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4895486
“Effective and Scalable Math Support: Experimental Evidence on the Impact of an AI- Math Tutor in Ghana” – AI tutor via WhatsApp in Ghana increased learning by the equivalent of one extra school year at $5 per student
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2402/2402.09809.pdf“Generative AI in higher education: A global perspective of institutional adoption policies and guidelines” – Study on university AI policies worldwide; most encourage AI use but lack clarity on inclusivity and transparency
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In this episode of AI in Education, Dan and Ray sit down with Leigh Williams, CIO of Brisbane Catholic Education, to dive into one of the most ambitious AI rollouts in Australian schools. With 78,000 students and 13,000 staff, Leigh and her team implemented Microsoft Copilot at scale—reducing teacher workloads by 9+ hours per week and even boosting teacher recruitment.
But it’s not just about efficiency. Leigh shares how AI is reshaping learning, tackling the digital divide, and even reducing student stress. We also explore the ethics of AI in education, Brisbane Catholic Education’s commitment to the Vatican’s "Rome Call" for AI ethics, and why gender balance in AI leadership still has a long way to go.
We also have a fascinating discussion about other ways that they are using technology to support learning, including FisherOne, their online school.
Training resources
Leigh talks extensively about the effort they have put into training and support for their teachers and students, and we wanted to share some of the Microsoft resources we know are useful if you're rolling out Copilot to your school:Microsoft Learn: Enhance teaching and learning with Microsoft Copilot
Microsoft Adopt: Microsoft 365 Copilot Chat resources for education
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Dan and Ray welcome Graham Brown Martin, a seasoned expert in education technology, for a very(!) thought-provoking conversation about navigating education in the rapidly evolving age of artificial intelligence.
In this episode:
Discover Graham's journey through multiple technological revolutions—from early mainframes and pioneering laser-disc technology to modern-day AI.
Hear stories from Graham's past, including his role in bringing together provocative figures like Katherine Birbalsingh and Malcolm McLaren to challenge the status quo in education.
Reflect on the historical context of industrial revolutions and their ongoing influence on our current educational systems.
Understand why Graham argues that education is still stuck in outdated 19th-century practices and how the pandemic reinforced rather than changed this dynamic.
Explore why Graham believes relational skills, creativity, empathy, and human collaboration will define education and employment in the fifth industrial revolution.
Graham's call to action? Shifting educational and economic models to prioritise human-centric skills and societal value.Find out more about Graham on his website:
GrahamBrownMartin.comFollow Graham on LinkedIn:
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In this episode Dan and Ray sit down with Dr. Nici (Nikki) Sweaney—founder of “AI Her Way,” gender equality advocate, and globally recognized AI consultant. After a fascinating career journey from butterfly ecology to statistics to AI, Nici now helps schools and organizations create ethical, responsible, and effective AI strategies. She shares her insights on responsible AI adoption, gender equity, bias, and how schools can proactively plan for an AI-driven future.
Follow Nici on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-nici-sweaney/
Nici's Ai Her Way website
Book in a discovery call with Nici
Make an Inquiry about PD for your school: https://www.aiherway.com.au/professional-development
Book Nici as a speaker https://www.aiherway.com.au/speaking-engagements
Nici's will be speaking at lots of events in March, if you'd like to hear more, and ask your own questions!March 5 - Australian Retirement Trust live podcast recording, Brisbane
March 6 - Canon, online event for IWD
March 6 - National Press Club, "Women in Media Canberra Networking Night: Democracy under threat? Unpacking mis/disinformation in Australia" Canberra
March 7 - Powerful Steps, IWD Event, 'Empowering Women, Changing Lives', Sydney
March 13 - Hoyts, IWD Event, Advancing Women in the AI Era, Sydney
March 17 - Women in Data and Digital (Australian Public Service), Online event for IWD
March 25 - ARIA's Innovator Conference, Sydney
March 27 - Learning Environments Australia Conference, "Architecting Future Learning Environments with AI", SydneyKey Topics & Takeaways
Nici’s Career Path: Ecology, Academia & AI
How studying butterfly behavior and coding in R sparked her interest in data and algorithms. Transition from 17 years in academia to AI consulting, focusing on statistics, data analytics, and ethical tech.The ‘Aha’ Moment with ChatGPT
Discovering ChatGPT in late 2022 and realizing its massive potential for education—and society at large. Balancing excitement and existential questions (“What is the point of humanity?”) when first encountering generative AI.Bias, Equity & Ethical AI
How AI systems inherit the biases found in the internet’s data—and why that’s problematic for underrepresented groups. Why women’s perspectives (and other minority voices) are crucial in AI development and how current data sets often perpetuate stereotypes.\ Nici's passion for closing the AI gender gap and practical steps schools can take.Building AI Literacy & Culture in Schools
The importance of having a written guideline (rather than a static policy) for AI use in schools. How to engage teachers and staff: start with small wins—solving real pain points such as lesson planning or admin tasks. Creating a “community of practice” so that staff share prompts, workflows, and best practices.Parent and Community Involvement
Addressing misconceptions and fears by informing families about AI’s capabilities, risks, and benefits. Why schools must proactively explain why they’re teaching AI skills—and how they're doing so responsibly.Rethinking Assessment & Student Skills
Moving beyond “fact recall” to deeper inquiry, collaboration, ethical reflection, and higher-order thinking. Teaching students how AI works (at a conceptual level) so they can use it responsibly and critically. Encouraging leadership traits like empathy, diversity of thought, and clear communication—assets for both human collaboration and AI prompting.Global Perspectives & Data Sovereignty
The challenges of relying on global tech giants for AI tools and data security. Understanding AI as a “private commodity,” not a universal public resource—what that means for Australian schools and beyond.Practical Steps for School Leaders
Survey staff to find out their AI familiarity, pain points, and training needs. Start with low-hanging fruit: use AI to streamline daily tasks, then build toward larger strategic workflows. Sustain momentum via ongoing PD, regular sharing sessions, and involving all stakeholders, including parents. -
In this episode, Ray and Dan are joined by Danny Bielik, President of the Digital Education Council, to discuss the findings of a global AI faculty survey. With insights from 52 institutions across 28 countries, Danny shares how higher education faculty are adopting AI, the biggest concerns around academic integrity and assessment, and why AI literacy is still a challenge for many.
Key topics include:
🔹 The real impact of AI on teaching and learning
🔹 How universities are using AI for teaching materials and admin
🔹 The debate on AI and job security for faculty
🔹 Why assessment and academic integrity need a rethink
🔹 How institutions can benchmark their AI strategies📌 Links & Resources:
📄 Download the Global AI Faculty Survey Report
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Book Club Podcast?
Before we even got to the News and Research, this week we discussed the AI-related books we're currently reading:
Dan's reading:
Where Good Ideas Come From, by Steven Johnson (TED Talk) Why Data Science Projects Fail, by Douglas Gray and Evan Shellshear (An interview with Evan)Ray's reading
The Atlas of AI: Power, Politics, and the Planetary Costs of Artificial Intelligence, by Kate Crawford (Wikipedia page)News Links
Links to the reports and news we discuss in the episode:
OpenAI's new Education newsletter
https://openaiforeducation.substack.com/Ethan Mollick's new "AI in Education: Leveraging ChatGPT for Teaching" course on Coursera
https://www.coursera.org/learn/wharton-ai-in-education-leveraging-chatgpt-for-teachingWorld Economic Forum "Future of Jobs report"
https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2025/infographics-94b6214b36/Student expelled and deported because they were accused of using ChatGPT by their professor. So they're suing their professor
https://www.fox9.com/video/1574324Digital Education Council Global AI Faculty Survey 2025
https://www.digitaleducationcouncil.com/post/digital-education-council-global-ai-faculty-survey
We'll discuss this report with one of the authors in next week's episodeUK government policy paper on "Generative artificial intelligence (AI) in education"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/generative-artificial-intelligence-in-education/generative-artificial-intelligence-ai-in-educationYear13 Case Study on AI use
https://news.microsoft.com/en-au/2024/12/13/guiding-school-leavers-with-ai-support-year13s-mission-to-democratise-opportunities-for-young-people/AI Use by industry employees - US, 2024
https://www.nber.org/papers/w32966In the discussion of energy use by AI, Ray mentioned some stats from this research report:
"The Carbon Emissions of Writing and Illustrating Are Lower for AI than for Humans"
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2303/2303.06219.pdfResearch Papers
And finally, links to the research papers we discussed this week
ChatGPT and Its Educational Impact: Insights from a Software Development Competition
https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.03779How to Align Large Language Models for Teaching English? Designing and Developing LLM based-Chatbot for Teaching English Conversation in EFL, Findings and Limitations
https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.04987AI Meets the Classroom: When Does ChatGPT Harm Learning?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.09047Are Large Language Models Good Essay Graders?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.13120An Education Researcher's Guide to ChatGPT
https://osf.io/spbz3A Step Towards Adaptive Online Learning: Exploring the Role of GPT as Virtual Teaching Assistants in Online Education
https://osf.io/preprints/edarxiv/rw45bThe AI Assessment Scale (AIAS) in action: A pilot implementation of GenAI-supported assessment
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This week we get to catch up with Katie Ford of Microsoft Australia, who tells us about the projects that have been happening in AI in Education around Australia, and shares some of the lessons learnt from the projects as well as what she is learning through her own research focus.
The examples Katie discusses are:
Tasmania Department of Education: Collaborated with Microsoft to enhance their data estate and prepare for AI applications aimed at identifying vulnerable children during COVID, helping to reveal overlooked demographics and improve interventions.
University of New South Wales (UNSW): Engaged in multiple initiatives including embedding AI intelligence into complex institutional systems and processes, and developing the Academic Success Monitor to predict and intervene early with students disengaging from education. This proactive outreach is personalised and has shown positive impacts on student success rates.
South Australia Department of Education: Pioneered the use of generative AI in classrooms, equipping educators with AI tools to enhance teaching and learning, making it one of the first in the world to adopt such technology at this scale.
New South Wales Department of Education: Implemented AI thoughtfully to support educators, focusing on significant time savings and improved experiences in the classroom, with a commitment to reducing teacher workloads by five hours weekly. NSWEduChat
Brisbane Catholic Education: Conducted a successful pilot with Microsoft Copilot, saving educators an average of 9.3 hours per week, which led to a wider rollout across the board to boost productivity and support staff well-being. Brisbane Catholic Education to deploy Microsoft 365 Copilot to 12,500 educators and support staff, in largest rollout for K-12 globally - Microsoft Australia News Centre
University of Sydney: Developed Cogniti to enable academics to control generative AI usage within their courses, facilitating the creation and monitoring of AI agents to enhance educational delivery and student monitoring.
Torrens University: Used Azure OpenAI to overhaul their Learning Management System, addressing user experience feedback, enhancing accessibility, and saving both cost and labour significantly.
Of course, we get diverted off course along the way, with a mention of platypus spotting, and Ray's visceral hatred of automated supermarket tills gets ha mention
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And we're back! After a relaxing summer holiday Down Under (the school year finishes late December and doesn't restart until after the end of January in Australia) we've made it back to the studio to talk again.
In this first episode of the 2025 'AI in Education' podcast, hosts Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming reflect on the major events and developments in AI during 2024. They discuss the importance of continuously addressing the adoption gap, the evolution of AI tools, and the pace of change in AI technology, exemplified by recent announcements like Project Stargate and DeepSeq.
The episode transitions to predictions for 2025, where they foresee the year being dominated by the rise of AI agents, increased research on AI's efficacy, and the exploration of AI's role in education. They also emphasised the need for ongoing experiments and adaptability in organisations to keep up with rapid advancements.
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We look back on the highlights of 2024, and the mass of stories, challenges and inspirations we had throughout the year. And what a year - AI in education has been moving so fast we even invited two digital AI podcasters to take over half the episode. And, worryingly, they did an amazing job - listen for yourself...
We're going to take a break over the Australian school holidays, but then we'll be back with at the end of January 2025. If you miss us, then please go and give us a rating or review in Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and that'll encourage us to return with even more energy for 2025!
We mention far too many stories and episodes to list them all, but one thing we mentioned a few times are the top five episodes from 2024, which in chronological order are:
Assessment and Swiss Cheese - Phill Dawson - Episode 9 of Series 9
https://aipodcast.education/assessment-and-swiss-cheese-phill-dawson-episode-9-of-series-9From Burnout to Breakthrough: Amanda Bickerstaff on AI's Role in Education
https://aipodcast.education/from-burnout-to-breakthrough-amanda-bickerstaff-on-ais-role-in-educationJason Lodge - Guiding Through Assessments
https://aipodcast.education/jason-lodge-guiding-through-assessmentsUniversity of Sydney and the future of assessment
https://aipodcast.education/university-of-sydney-and-the-future-of-assessmentIs AI the saviour of teaching? Leanne Cameron's perspective on AI across the teaching profession
https://aipodcast.education/leanne-camerons-perspective-on-time-saving-for-the-teaching-professions -
A heap of news stories this week means we didn't cover any research at all!
AI isn’t a tool, it’s an environment by Josh Thorpe
https://wonkhe.com/blogs/ai-isnt-a-tool-its-an-environment/Australian Senate report into Adoption of AI
https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Adopting_Artificial_Intelligence_AI/AdoptingAI/ReportEthan Mollick's course on Coursera: "AI in Education: Leveraging ChatGPT for Teaching"
https://www.coursera.org/learn/wharton-ai-in-education-leveraging-chatgpt-for-teaching
I'll also recommend his book - Co-Intelligence - as a great Christmas gift for yourself or a friendOpen AI announced Open AI Pro @ $200/m
https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-pro/
We like Ethan Mollick's example that showed what it could do - solving this problem and creating a working app in 15 minutes - see here: https://bsky.app/profile/emollick.bsky.social/post/3lcldsn2grk2zMicrosoft Copilot with vision for consumers
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-copilot/blog/2024/12/05/copilot-vision-now-in-preview-a-new-way-to-browse
Demo example: https://youtu.be/H3-hHiITH_gSora released
https://openai.com/index/sora-is-here/ChatGPT's Advanced Voice Mode finally gets visual context on the 6th day of OpenAI
https://www.zdnet.com/article/chatgpts-advanced-voice-mode-finally-gets-visual-context-on-the-6th-day-of-openai/Apple released iOS 18.2 with integrated AI
https://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-18-2-rolls-out-to-iphones-try-these-6-new-ai-features-today/Google Gemini 2.0 with real time speech and vision
https://aistudio.google.com/liveWe're on Bluesky
https://bsky.app/profile/aiineducation.bsky.social"The Carbon Emissions of Writing and Illustrating Are Lower for AI than for Humans"
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2303/2303.06219.pdfMicrosoft's Zero-Water Solution for Data Centre Cooling
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This week's episode discussed the new AI toolkit for generative AI strategies from Australia's Higher Education regulator, TEQSA
The full toolkit is available here: https://www.teqsa.gov.au/guides-resources/resources/corporate-publications/gen-ai-strategies-australian-higher-education-emerging-practiceDuring the episode we referenced some of the podcasts when we'd had the chance to interview some of the people from The University of Sydney who were used as case studies in the toolkit, and here's the link to previous podcast episodes that might be helpful to go back to for more depth:
The University of Sydney's Cogniti AI bot
https://aipodcast.education/the-university-of-sydneys-cogniti-ai-bot The University of Sydney's Two Lane approach to assessment
https://aipodcast.education/university-of-sydney-and-the-future-of-assessment
Jason Lodge at the University of Queensland
We'd also recommend listening to conversations with two leaders on post-AI assessment
https://aipodcast.education/jason-lodge-guiding-through-assessments Phill Dawson at the CRADLE centre at Deakin University
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Everybody or Nobody is using AI - News and Research
Series 10, Episode 8We explore quite a lot of news related to AI in Education that arrived this week, which meant we didn't get to cover nearly as many academic research papers as we'd hoped. Oh well, there's still 4 episodes left this year to catch up 😊
News
Open AI released a course for teachers
https://www.commonsense.org/education/training/chatgpt-k12-foundationsThe AI Art Turing Test
Overview: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/how-did-you-do-on-the-ai-art-turing
Direct link to the AI Turing Test formAvoiding the Discriminatory Use of Artificial Intelligence
https://www.ed.gov/laws-and-policy/civil-rights-laws/avoiding-discriminatory-use-of-artificial-intelligenceBrisbane Catholic Education's announcement on "AI for everybody"
https://www.bne.catholic.edu.au/news/Pages/Brisbane-Catholic-Education-making-significant-inroads-with-AI-enabled-teaching-and-learning-.aspx
https://news.microsoft.com/en-au/features/brisbane-catholic-education-to-deploy-microsoft-365-copilot-to-12500-educators-and-support-staff-in-largest-rollout-for-k-12-globally/New research from Google Workspace and The Harris Poll shows rising leaders are embracing AI to drive impact at work
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-research-from-google-workspace-and-the-harris-poll-shows-rising-leaders-are-embracing-ai-to-drive-impact-at-work-302314697.htmlTEQSA Paper on GenAI Strategies for Higher Education
https://www.teqsa.gov.au/guides-resources/resources/corporate-publications/gen-ai-strategies-australian-higher-education-emerging-practiceResearch
Unipa-GPT: Large Language Models for university-oriented QA in Italian
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.14246Boosting Large Language Models with Socratic Method for Conversational Mathematics Teaching
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.17349LessonPlanner: Assisting Novice Teachers to Prepare Pedagogy-Driven Lesson Plans with Large Language Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.01102Automated Educational Question Generation at Different Bloom's Skill Levels using Large Language Models: Strategies and Evaluation
https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.04394Could ChatGPT get an Engineering Degree? Evaluating Higher Education Vulnerability to AI Assistants
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This week's episode is a discussion of the Australian Parliamentary report on AI in Education, "Studdy Buddy or Influencer?". The report highlights both the opportunities and challenges GenAI presents, focusing on student and teacher perspectives, ethical considerations, regulatory approaches, and potential solutions. The report makes many recommendations, with the very first being significant on many levels:
"The Committee recommends that the Australian Government:
consider making the use of GenAI in education a national priority"Dan and Ray are joined by guest, Miriam Scott, an Education Consultant for Generative AI for the Association of Independent Schools of NSW and also Marketing & Events Coordinator for the Association of Women Educators.
Miriam was previously Head of Digital Education at Hillbrook Anglican School, and has produced a number of resources for teachers that she shares on her personal website "Scotty Breaks It Down"
An AI starter-kit for anyone looking to integrate generative AI in their school for education An AI professional development toolkit for teachers -
Another News & Research episode this week, and lots of interesting links and research discussed. Here's the weblinks for everything!
News
Deception and Deepfakes - How genAI is Changing Cyber Safety
Course: https://spsc.thinkific.com/courses/take/deceptionanddeepfakes/Leon Furzes online course, where he made a free course about deepfakes hosted by a deepfake, with deepfake content about deepfakes
https://leonfurze.teachable.com/p/this-course-is-ai-generatedMcKinsey surveyed 1363 working professionals across countries, industries, and demographics about the use of generative AI at their work places.
https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/quantumblack/our-insights/the-state-of-aiThe Carbon Emissions of Writing and Illustrating Are Lower for AI than for Humans
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2303/2303.06219.pdfSatya Nadella shared 200 examples globally of companies using AI
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2024/11/12/how-real-world-businesses-are-transforming-with-ai/Rose Luckin's Beyond the Hype report
https://www.educateventures.com/beyond-the-hypeBrad Smith shares a Digital Twin of St Peters Basilica in Rome
https://youtu.be/5dQI_TXYJbUResearch
Spotting Research Fraud - a website that's fascinating
https://www.academ-ai.info/
AI or Human? Evaluating Student Feedback Perceptions in Higher Education
https://osf.io/preprints/osf/6zm83Teacher Learning Network Journal - AI in Education special
https://tln.org.au/Web/Web/TLN-Journals/TLN%20Journal%20Public.aspxAdoption and Impact of ChatGPT in Computer Science Education: A Case Study on a Database Administration Course
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.12145Follow-Up Questions Improve Documents Generated by Large Language Models
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.12017Educational Personalized Learning Path Planning with Large Language Models
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In September, the Toddle team organised "AI for AussieEd", a week-long series of professional development sessions for teachers, which had thousands of attendees for the virtual sessions.This episode "Driving Innovation in Australian Schools" was part of the week, and brings you the experiences of three educators, in conversation with podcast hosts Dan and Ray
The guests are:
Rachel Saunders, Primary School Learning Leader at Concordia College in Adelaide Ryan Elwell, Director of Digital Pedagogies & Online Safety Education at the ACT Education Directorate Matt Heinrich, Director of Learning Technologies and ICT at St Michaels Grammar School in MelbourneIt was a great discussion, and because it was recorded as a live webinar, we had lots of audience questions coming in online, so in the second half of the episode, you're going to hear questions coming in the chat from live listeners.
As usual, hosts Dan and Ray brought along their own contributions to the discussion:
Dan came with his deep pedagogical knowledge and insightful education conversation.
Ray brought his Buzzword Bingo card
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This week's episode has a lot more news than research. But the research that we spend a bit of time on is the insights on how students in Australian universities are using AI. Really good insights for any educator or leader!
News
AI Detectors Falsely Accuse Students of Cheating—With Big Consequences
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-10-18/do-ai-detectors-work-students-face-false-cheating-accusationsEmpowering Education Leaders Toolkit
https://tech.ed.gov/education-leaders-ai-toolkit/TEQSA Guidance for universities
Danny Liu video https://bit.ly/students-aiResearchers say an AI-powered transcription tool used in hospitals invents things no one ever said
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/openai-ap-san-francisco-experts-microsoft-b2635996.htmlMore than a quarter of new code at Google is generated by AI - The Verge
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/29/24282757/google-new-code-generated-ai-q3-2024Apple are launching their first devices with Apple Intelligence
https://www.wsj.com/video/series/joanna-stern-personal-technology/full-interview-apples-software-chief-craig-federighi-on-future-of-iphone-ai/756B8727-5FFB-422C-AE63-C4600272BD94?msockid=0a3b30f5f88b6061226e245bf9b96140Watch out for the Earning reports: Google just released and Microsoft do this week too. Always have a listen to these to find out about the momentum in AI.
Alphabet Q3 earnings call: CEO Sundar Pichai's remarks
Microsoft Fiscal Year 2025 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call
ResearchA Systematic Mapping Review at the Intersection of Artificial Intelligence and Self-Regulated Learning A call for increased theoretical grounding focus on motivation and diversifying context
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/382870027
Students perspectives on AI in higher education
Project website: https://aiinhe.org
Survey highlights: https://aiinhe.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/aiinhe_surveyinsights.pdf
Guidance for students: https://itali.uq.edu.au/files/31707/how-students-use-ai-guide-students.pdf
Guidance for academics: https://itali.uq.edu.au/files/31702/How-students-talk-about- gen-ai-guide-academics.pdf -
Series 10, Episode 3
This week's episode is an interview with Dr Anna Denejkina, who's an interdisciplinary researcher and Associate Director at The Insight Centre. We discuss her research on youth engagement with generative AI. The conversation explores the multifaceted impact of AI technology in education, addressing benefits such as upskilling and accessibility, as well as concerns related to academic misconduct, job displacement, and misinformation. Key themes include gender disparity in confidence using AI, the importance of critical and empathetic thinking, and the evolving landscape of education assessments. The dialogue also highlights issues of loneliness, anxiety, and the growing equity gap driven by differences in AI adoption across various educational institutions.
Anna talks about her previous research on Young People's Perception and Use of Generative AI, which is a collaboration between The Insight Centre and YouthInsight. Here's a good summary article at The Research Society, and the full research here
We also mentioned the STEM tracker research, which is published by the Dept of Industry here
You can find all of Anna's research publications here
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This week we cover a range of AI in Education related news and academic research papers. Here's all the links you need to read more about each of the topics we dicussed:
NewsAustralia's Voluntary AI Safety Standard
In September the Australian Government published:
Voluntary AI Safety Standard (68pg): https://www.industry.gov.au/publications/voluntary-ai-safety-standard
Proposals paper for introducing mandatory guardrails for AI in high-risk settings: https://consult.industry.gov.au/ai-mandatory-guardrails
Stanford's STORM
https://storm.genie.stanford.edu/
Students give English HSC exam an F over use of image with ‘hallmarks’ of AI
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/16/nsw-hsc-english-exams-2024-ai-image-paper-1
Investigation into the use of ChatGPT by a Child Protection worker - Office of the Victorian Information Commissioner
https://ovic.vic.gov.au/regulatory-action/investigation-into-the-use-of-chatgpt-by-a-child-protection-worker/
Research PapersTo what extent is ChatGPT useful for language teacher lesson plan creation?
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.09974Have We Reached AGI? Comparing ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini to Human Literacy and Education Benchmarks
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.09573The Life Cycle of Large Language Models: A Review of Biases in Education
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.11203The Future of Learning: Large Language Models through the Lens of Students
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.12723How to Mitigate the Dependencies of ChatGPT-4o in Engineering Education
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.12693StuGPTViz: A Visual Analytics Approach to Understand Student-ChatGPT Interactions
https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.12423Apostles, Agnostics and Atheists: Engagement with Generative AI by Australian University Staff
https://eprints.qut.edu.au/252079/ -
Welcome to the first Episode of Series 10, where we are going to take some time to review some of the fundamental changes we're going to be seeing as AI becomes more pervasive.
In this Episode we're taking a different approach, with Dan and Ray using Google's NotebookLM to create AI-delivered mini-podcasts about each other, which leads to a discussion about the backgrounds of both hosts, and a discussion about how this new AI might be used in education.
Obviously, both Dan and Ray conclude that AI won't replace them...yet!
For your own experiments, you can find NotebookLM at https://notebooklm.google.com/
The two mini podcasts in this episode were produced by simply feeding NoteBookLM with the hosts LinkedIn profiles (in PDF format - available as a download from any individual's LinkedIn page).
We'd love to hear how you're using NotebookLM, and other AI tech, in your work. The easiest way to get hold of us is via our LinkedIn page https://www.linkedin.com/company/ai-in-education-podcast/
And if you're enjoying the podcast, would now be a good time to leave a review in your podcast app - whether you're using Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or Spotify, we'd love it if you left a rating and review.
- Visa fler
