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Licensed Clinical Psychologist, Alex Klein, joins us this episode from Oakland, California where he is both in private practice and works at the Kaiser Oakland Medical Center assessing and providing therapy to both children and adults with neurodevelopmental differences. He trained with Dr. Stanley Greenspan, Jake Greenspan and Tim Bleecker, and also with Dr. Gil Tippy and Tina McCourt at the Rebecca School, where he was a Head Teacher and Floortime Coach before moving out west for graduate school. I invited him to share his presentation from the Rebecca School DIR® NYC Conference on Neurodiversity-Affirming Care.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: http://affectautism.com/2021/04/10/neurodiversity
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AUTISTIC Viewpoints is a podcast hosted by Turrell Burgess and Daria Brown. On Episode 12, "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," Turrell and Daria cover Michael Jackson: the new movie, the songs, the fandom, his intersection with DIRFloortime (what?!) and a few more surprises! Enjoy our special episode on the occasions of AUTISTIC Pride (June 18) and JUNETEENTH (June 19)! We hope you like it as much as we enjoyed making it!
Learn more at https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/
Timestamps:
0:14 Introduction
1:56 Turrell's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson
2:27 Daria's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson
3:07 The Jackson 5
3:45 Why the beginning of the movie Michael made Daria so emotional for more than one reason
5:50 Turrell's reflections on the movie Michael
7:05 Turrell's early experiences listening to Michael Jackson growing up
7:29 Daria's real-time experiences of listening to Michael Jackson growing up
8:28 The album OFF THE WALL: our impressions and memories
9:45 The album THRILLER: our impressions, including from the movie, Michael, and our memories
11:57 Thriller in the movie, Michael
12:17 Turrell's favourite songs from Thriller
12:40 Daria's favourite songs from Thriller
13:18 MOTOWN 25 and the movie
14:13 The album BAD: our impressions and memories
15:04 * AUTISTIC Pride tribute *
15:38 Turrell's Fun Fact and Daria's reflections on Bad's impact
16:23 The album DANGEROUS: our impressions and memories
18:10 Daria's concert book from the Victory Tour
21:55 Concert talk
22:50 History and Invincible and the Michael Jackson Experience video game
23:46 Memories of Michael Jackson's death
24:32 The movie's foreshadowing
25:23 What the fans wanted
27:43 Jaafar!
28:16 The movie's success
28:28 Michael Jackson Cancun show
29:52 * JUNETEENTH tribute *
31:07 Canadian connection!
31:46 DIRFloortime connection!
33:25 ICDL connection!
34:50 * Turrell's SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT! *
36:27 Closing remarks
Resources:Wylie Draper: https://www.instagram.com/p/DSgOQKskT5x/ and https://www.instagram.com/p/DW7tFjija-o/
* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist Post Analog Disorder for the intro/outro music permission: https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise
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My guests this episode are Gwen and Gene Harshaw. At 4 years old their son Zayne was diagnosed with autism and his parents were told that he would never be able to read, button his shirt, zip zippers or tie his shoes, or connect with other people. His parents found strength through Zayne’s gifts instead of focusing on his weaknesses. Today, Zayne is a member of the band Blue Spectrum, which is the ICDL’s house band. The Harshaw family are autism acceptance advocates through their public speaking engagements and volunteer roles where they offer guidance, provide hope, and build families’ confidence and capacity, and a “vision of possibility.”
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/06/12/possibility/Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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Sometimes the biggest challenge parents have with their autistic children who have meltdowns is meeting the child emotionally and connecting. Here, we need to find the affect they’re having in that moment in order to support them to feel heard and understood. Developmental, Individual differences, Relationship-based (DIR®) Expert and Training Leader, Kasheena Holder, joins us to discuss this process of providing co-regulatory support for our children. Kasheena is a Special Education Teacher in Barbados and works with the International Council on Development and Learning. She owns a local private practice in Barbados called First Step where she supports children with neurodiversities and their families.
Sad note: Kasheena passed away in December of 2024 and is fondly remembered for her generous spirit.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2022/03/26/feel/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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Returning guest Julia Swaigen is a registered social worker in Toronto who founded and directs Attuned Families, a clinic to help families harness the power of relationships so that parents find peace and children thrive. They offer family therapy, child therapy, parent coaching, and also work with schools. Julia is here to discuss the release of her new book entitled, You Are My Home: Stories of Attunement.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/05/29/stories-of-attunement/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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This episode falls in the month of May which is Apraxia Awareness Month. I’m pleased to welcome my friend, Brandy Jordan, the mother of a 14-year-old, non speaking, Apraxic Autistic son. She is joining us to talk about their journey.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/05/22/apraxia/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
* Thank you to Toronto recording artist Ayria for the intro/outro song permission.
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In this episode, psychologist and Neufeld Institute senior faculty member Eva de Gosztonyi shares reflections from over 50 years working in schools across Canada and explains how Gordon Neufeld’s attachment-based developmental paradigm transformed her understanding of children, behaviour, emotional regulation, and learning. Eva discusses how traditional behavioral approaches often failed the children who struggled most and describes her efforts to implement relationship-based, developmental practices within Quebec’s English-speaking school systems.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/05/15/holding-space/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
* Thank you to Mauritian American recording artists Hallows and Artoffact Records for the background promo music: https://hallows.bandcamp.com/track/catalyst-2
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Jackie Bartell is back with us this episode for a fantastic discussion about a concept so essential to the Developmental, Individual differences, Relationship-based (DIR®) model and Floortime, and that is that we are human beings not human doings. Jackie is a retired special educator with the International Council on Development and Learning (ICDL) and is a DIRFloortime® Expert Training Leader.
Link to the full blog post with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the podcast here: https://affectautism.com/2018/05/21/being/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://www.icdl.com/parents
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AUTISTIC Viewpoints is a podcast hosted by Turrell Burgess and Daria Brown. On Episode 11, returning guest Khylil Robinson joins us!
Learn more at https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/
Timestamps:
00:13 Introductions
01:27 Khylil's recent award
01:46 Khylil's sentiments about being a repeat guest
02:29 Setting up this episode's topics
03:29 Turrell's review of their recent conference presentation
04:43 Daria's comments about their presentation as an presentation attendee
05:39 Khylil's reflections on their conference presentation
08:34 Call out for hiring Khylil or Turrell to present online or in person, especially considering the unique experiences of young, black Autistic men
09:33 How this presentation differed from past presentations
11:35 Khylil's upcoming work events
15:47 Daria's reaction to Khylil's work events including incarceration
16:48 Turrell's upcoming work events
18:33 Daria's reaction to Turrell's work events and how we can advocate for all Autistics even if we can't speak to the experience of all Autistics
19:42 Khylil's work with police officers
21:23 Khylil's experience with law enforcement and his mental break about it
25:08 Daria highlighting the gravity of this experience for anyone, let alone Autistic, let alone with the intersectional of being Black and all of the prejudice that accompanies that, then the masking that happens and the toll that takes on one's mental health and emotional well-being
26:55 The work of KultureCity
27:22 Turrell's reflections on being Black and Autistic
30:07 Daria's comments on Autism awareness all year round and not just in April
30:40 Khylil talking about Mental Health Awareness month in May and specifically Men's Mental Health Awareness in June and managing his responsibilities, including his experience of his tire blowing on the highway and the aftermath
34:00 Daria's comments on Autistic rumination and the toll on mental health and the accumulation of traumatic experiences
35:43 Turrell's reactions about these experiences
37:02 Daria bringing up the last episode with KW that if someone describes their experience, believe them
37:31 Khylil talks about Autistics sharing their stories and lived experiences
39:04 Lightening up the topic to upcoming spring events and Autistic joy that can help to attempt to pull us out of our ruminations or suffering mental health experiences and her specific Autistic joy on display this episode
41:31 Khylil's humorous description of his latest fun events
45:20 International travels
46:15 Turrell's upcoming plans for the upcoming months
47:48 Khylil's interest in the Michael Jackson biopic is strictly related to Sonic the Hedgehog and Daria has no idea what he means
51:07 Turrell gives a teaser about the next episode
51:52 Wrap-Up
Resources:
KultureCity: Sensory Accessibility and Inclusion podcast episode https://affectautism.com/2021/10/16/kulturecity/
Dr. Gordon Neufeld podcast episode on emotional well-being https://affectautism.com/2023/03/04/well-being/
Khylil's stellar artist reference
Sexy Nerds Events https://sexynerds.net/
* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist Post Analog Disorder for the intro/outro music permission: https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise
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In this episode we aim to give parents and caregivers a guide for being confident enough to trust in their intuition and what they want for their children when seeking DIRFloortime® practitioners to implement a DIRFloortime® approach.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/05/01/dialogues-7/Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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In our last podcast episode together, back in 2019, Dave Nelson and I discussed puberty and how we can best support our kids in a respectful way using a developmental approach. In this episode, we want to continue on that topic by touching on the developmental way to support our adolescents in taboo areas. Dave Nelson is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), a DIRFloortime® Expert Training Leader, and the Executive Administrative Director of the Threshold Community Program in Atlanta, Georgia.Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2023/02/18/adolescence/Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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Occupational Therapist and DIR-Expert Maude Le Roux and homeschooling parent Daniela Bishop discuss the importance of clinical reasoning in attuning to the child by being present, staying in the moment, sitting in discomfort and uncertainty and making inferences about the child’s internal experience in order to have an essential starting point for developmental work.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/04/17/presence/Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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AUTISTIC Viewpoints is a podcast hosted by Turrell Burgess and Daria Brown. Episode 10 features guest KW, a Licensed Professional Counselor who was identified as AuDHD in his 30s. He lives with his neurodivergent spouse and five fur-kids in Midwest-USA. He is an artist, writer, photographer, and musician. At present, he is excited to be creating his first podcast: a music deep dive show that will air on the Autistic Culture Podcast Network this summer. He shares his diagnosis journey, his passions, and the process of "unbecoming" as he unmasks.
Learn more at https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/
00:13 Introductions
01:28 KW's diagnosis journey including suicidality and trauma from being misunderstood * Trigger Warning *
04:45 KW's process of becoming a Licensed Professional Counselor
05:12 KW's confusion about diagnosis despite being an LPC
05:28 The therapist that suggested KW should be assessed for ADHD
06:43 Why KW became a counselor
08:32 The necessity of unpacking your own "stuff" as a counselor
09:00 How becoming a counselor was rewarding for KW
10:08 KW's reflections on providing a safe space for his clients and being your authentic self
11:37 KW's first session conversation with his clients
12:12 KW's case load of Autistic middle and high school boys before he understood Autism and instinctually following the client's lead
15:28 KW's lived experience presentation to his co-workers *Trigger Warning*
17:42 Turrell's response to KW's list of personal characteristics he had accumulated
19:10 KW's response to the value of having supportive people in your life
21:13 KW's most powerful realization and best advice
23:03 Daria's response to KW's lived experience of having personal support
23:58 The importance of seeking out support
25:01 The importance of letting go of fear when it's necessary to move on from what doesn't feel right
25:55 KW reconceptualizing himself as a musician, writer, photographer, and an artist starting with his love of music and his favourite band
26:25 Daria's response to KW
27:25 Reconnecting with his creativity as he unmasks
30:30 Maya Angelou's inspiring quote and KW's focus on "unbecoming"
31:11 KW's passion for music
33:36 KW's upcoming podcast mini-series on the Autistic Culture Podcast Network
35:27 Turrell's upcoming podcast mini-series on the Autistic Culture Podcast Network
36:09 The Autistic appreciation of sharing passionate interests
36:47 Wrap-Up
KW on Substack: https://substack.com/@mraskmore?r=3cfq85&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=stories&shareImageVariant=light
DIRFloortime https://affectautism.com/what-is-dirfloortime/
The Late Diagnosis Club https://www.autisticculturepodcast.com/
Maya Angelou's most famous quote on creativity is: "You can't use up creativity. The more you use, the more you have."
KW's favourite band The Color Morale
https://fearlessrecords.com/artists/the-color-morale/
Turrell's and my past episode on our love of the band Nirvana https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/
Another band KW is a fan of "Good Charlotte" https://www.goodcharlotte.com/
* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist Post Analog Disorder for the intro/outro music permission: https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise
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Returning guest, Licensed Professional Counsellor and DIR Expert Training Leader, Mike Fields from Floortime Atlanta and Inneractions Therapy Services, joins us this week to discuss how we want to be creating opportunities for our children in Floortime rather than stealing opportunities from them.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2021/06/26/opportunities/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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In this episode, Turkish DIR® Expert Training Leader, speech-language pathologist, and physiotherapist Kemal Colay shares his theoretical framework integrating valence and arousal within a DIR®-informed approach to support connection in his work with children, and how he uses video review as a reflective tool to support parents in recognizing and responding to their child’s unique cues in order to facilitate developmental growth.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/04/03/video-review/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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Brookes Barrack is a Speech-Language Pathologist and DIRFloortime® Expert Training Leader who has a clinic just outside of Kansas City, Kansas with Occupational Therapist Emily Tritz called Kansas City Developmental Therapies where they offer DIR® services. This summer they became an official accredited DIR® Organization. She originally trained in Floortime at "the Bunker" with Drs. Greenspan and Wieder in Washington, D.C. and in the PLAY Project with Dr. Rick Solomon at his home. This episode we are discussing Gestural development : The D, the I, and the R.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2024/09/27/gestures/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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Çiğdem Ergül and Elif Akat are the pioneers of DIRFloortime® in Turkey. Both dedicated DIR® clinicians and Expert Training Leaders, they started at different times at ICDL’s DIR® Institute "back in the day" with Drs. Stanley Greenspan and Serena Wieder. They are deeply committed to preserving the integrity of the DIR® model and upholding the high quality of training and practice that shaped their professional journeys and enables them to serve families in their care. This episode, they share their stories.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/03/20/turkey/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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Every other week in 2026 so far, you've been hearing the audio only of one episode of the Floortime documentary, We Chose Play. This time it's Season 1, Episode 6, called, "Let's reflect" where you see an example of reviewing a Floortime video with a Floortime coach to highlight the reflection process.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/03/13/wcp-s1e6/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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On Episode 9 of AUTISTIC Viewpoints, Turrell Burgess and Daria Brown interview Turrell's younger sister, Breanne!
Learn more at https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/
Timestamps:
00:14 Introductions
01:28 Turrell's first question for his sister
02:27 What Breanne loved about Turrell
03:10 Turrell and his sister's schooling
04:45 Breanne's sense of patience, caring, and concern for others
05:20 What the siblings bonded over
06:40 Did Breanne feel like the big sister instead?
07:40 What Breanne loves about Turrell
07:57 Turrell's self doubts
08:13 Turrell asks his sister about making friends
10:34 Turrell asks his sister about the impact he's had on her life
12:58 Daria's reaction and question for Breanne about the family culture around the Autism diagnosis
17:21 Daria asks Turrell if he ever felt shame around his diagnosis
20:17 Turrell felt underestimated
21:05 Turrell asks his sister what lesson she learned from him
22:19 Breanne discusses Turrell's growth
23:59 Autism and black-and-white thinking
25:43 Turrell's personal development
26:23 Developing versus ruminating
27:41 Wrap-up
* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist Post Analog Disorder for the intro/outro music permission: https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise
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Princess Owens is parenting educator, writer, and mindfulness facilitator whose work uplifts neurodivergent families with compassion and intention. As the founder and lead consultant of Bloom Village Co., she helps family-serving organizations build more inclusive, culturally grounded, and community-centered spaces. A dedicated neurodiversity advocate and mother of five, she brings real-life insight, heart, and expertise to every conversation. Based in New Jersey, Princess blends mindful parenting, storytelling, and lived experience to guide others toward more supportive and human-centered care for children and families.
Link to the show notes with links to key discussion points and other ways to view or hear the episode here: https://affectautism.com/2026/03/06/bloom-village/
Consider joining our DIR® Parent Network or becoming an Affect Autism member for bonus content and support from a like-minded community of Floortimers here: https://affectautism.com/support/
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