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Jamie Exodus is the founder of Exodus 90 which is a fraternity for men to grow spiritually.
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Joel Lopez works with men to help them build strong marriages.
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Ross Simmonds is a father of 3 kids. He is a marketing mastermind in the areas of SaaS and all things digital creation. He hails from Nova Scotia.
Where to Find Ross
https://rosssimmonds.com/https://twitter.com/thecoolestcool/https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssimmonds/https://open.spotify.com/show/3xtAETor7wKlNEVrH8OPAF?si=1a4bc39873a74481 -
Nate is the founder of New Founding, a venture firm in Dallas Texas. The mission of NF is to "Build the America you want to live in", and branded as "A venture firm for American vitality". He is also a father of 4 (soon to be 5).
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Blake Smith - Founder of Allsmith and father of 6 talks about founding companies and families and the overlap between the two. We discuss what it means to be a team and focus less on the individual.
Blake on twitter
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Bart Szaniewski is one of the founders and the current head of DadGang. HE shares the story of taking it from a side hustle fun idea to his current full-time gig.
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Brent Beshore runs a PE firm in Columbia Missouri named Permanent Equity with 9 portfolio companies and a current capital base in excess of $300 million. Brent is also a father and also an ex-atheist turned Christ follower.
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Coach Lantz Howard joins the podcast.
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Joe runs a company called Boxcar (boxcar.com), he is also a father of 5. We talked about trends in the world today, navigating business shifts, and raising our kids in a changing culture. There are many things we can talk about, like the environments where we live and how we feel comfortable managing time and resources to engage in life properly. However, filling the gaps in his company when it comes to running it is something he has learned to do, as many things need improvement, and sometimes there is not enough time to do it.
Where to find Joe
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Chris is a 10X Ironman race finisher. He talked about fitness and the healthcare system. Chris is also a former Physical Therapist. He is really good at what he does and wants to spread his knowledge to the most people he can. Throughout the years, he has developed different techniques to incentivize and motivate people to care for their health and work on their fitness.
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It's all about attachment. At least that's what Adam Lane Smith would say, who is a master psychologist, retired psychotherapist, and now an attachment specialist. He joins the 2 Cent Dad podcast today to talk about how a lot of issues that we face in our marriages, in our relationships, and even with our kids stem from our own attachment issues, often attachment issues that have come up from our childhood. And so he hits on many important things and, uh, actually efficient advice about how we can go about fixing our attachment issues, but also not creating attachment issues with our kids.
Where to Find Adam
Adam Lane Smith on Instagram
Adam Lane Smith on Twitter
Adam Lane Smith on TikTok
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You probably contribute to a 401K or an IRA or some other investment account to save for your retirement. That's normal. Well, today's guest, Nate Dean, is gonna talk about a concept called the infinite banking concept, and it flips things kind of on its head. When you talk about retirement, when you talk about saving, when you talk about financing, vehicles, cars, that sort of thing, and super interesting concept that he talks about, and I think we'll find a lot of value in as you think about retirement, especially as you think about how to prepare yourself and your family for your generation and the next generation.
Where To Find Nate:
Nate on Twitter
Personal Website
Unlimited Life Concepts on Instagram
Unlimited Life Concepts WebsiteMentions in this episode
Becoming Your Own Banker by Nelson Nash
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When you think about families, do you think about a nest? Or do you think about a multi-generational family that you're contributing to a legacy? Most Western families think about a nest and they think about getting the kids out of the nest. My guest today, Jeremy Pryor, who runs familyteams.com really flips that on its head and instead talks about a multi-generational family and how we should view families differently, and how the western view of family has really messed up so many fundamental things in how we raise our kids, how we talk about family, and how we create multi-generational families that love each other and actually inves
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Nathan is the founder of HealthBar (https://healthbar.com/) and is working to provide an alternative to the current system by streamlining it and removing waste in the system.
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Classical Education, what is it? Maybe you have heard some about it or you have been following the complete disruption of the education system in the USA. I talk with Jeremy Tate, the founder of CLT about the history of education and what is happening in K-12 as well as higher ed right now.
Where To Find Jeremy
Jeremy on TwitterCLT WebsiteAnchored podcastLinks Mention
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Tex joins us to talk about re-igniting his marriage through a return to more "traditional" roles. Hitting on the "dom/sub" relationship he has with his wife and his journey to help young men lead better.
Where to find Tex?
Twitter https://twitter.com/TexasDom1Blog Link https://texasdom.com/bio/Transcription below (May contain typos...):
Mike: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] today we got texts on the show. Texas is from Texas, he's an author. Um, and he writes a lot about masculinity and about, um, I think the Renaissance of, uh, or the resurgence of masculinity that we're seeing in the world today.
Um, in some of these circles, you know, it's kind of under the, the mainstream radar, but it's, it's a response to what's going on and, and texts. I love. The stuff that you put out and I love your story and I'm excited to have you share it with my audience, man.
Tex: [00:00:28] Well, thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.
Yeah,
Mike: [00:00:31] well, um, let's get into, uh, you know, one of the things I like to start sometimes when my podcast with interview with is, um, I'm curious because this is a fatherhood podcast. If a young young man came to you was married having their first kid and they said texts. I need some advice. I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
My wife is pregnant. What are some advice you can give me being a new dad?
Tex: [00:00:58] Be patient, um, [00:01:00] be, be, be loving and, um, realize there's no owner's manual and you're going to screw some stuff up and you're going to figure it out along the way. By the time you get to kid two and three and four, it's going to be so much easier.
And, um, you know, don't, don't worry about the fact that you think you can't afford a baby or a second or third. Um, no one can, so we just figure it out, you know, that's how we do it. And you realized that, um, when your wife does have this baby, she's going to go through some hormonal changes, right. As you know, as you're leading up to it during, and then right after, and she is going to be out of her mind and some things, and you're going to look at her and go, who is this woman sometimes.
Right. And, but that's going to happen. I mean, it happens to most people. And so, you know, hopefully you can avoid the whole post postpartum depression and all that stuff. Just be, just be kind. Be loving and, uh, and not saying be your slave. I'm not saying, you know, be her fetching boy, I'm just saying no, that her emotions are going to be all over the map [00:02:00] and it's up to you to be calm and to just be a little stoic and just love her when she needs to be loved.
Yeah.
Mike: [00:02:09] The perspective glasses you got to put on? I think I'm finally learning that after we were having our fifth, you know, pretty soon. And it's like, man, I'm finally learning that lesson. Okay. She's probably of
Tex: [00:02:19] five kids, man. Can't imagine five kids. Good Lord. I got three grandsons when they come down to visit twice at the beach this summer and.
After about where they were like eight days, both times. Right. And I'm like, Ooh, man, these guys are work. I forgot how much work this was. And they were like 12, 10 and seven. So they're, they're just constantly, even their motors are running the whole time. Right. So, uh, yeah, I realized I, that was the only thing I regret.
I didn't have enough kids, man. I only had, we stopped at two and I wish we'd had more. Now I look back at that and go, I, that was, uh, and, and what was it? It was, you know, stressful. Yeah, we were broke. We were poor. We were broke. And I managed to convince myself that having [00:03:00] more kids was a really, really bad idea.
And my wife and I were both in agreement of that. We're like, yeah, we're, we're done. I mean, yeah, she wasn't even 30. When she had our second kid, we could have had plenty of time to have, you know, at least one or two more. So
Mike: [00:03:13] that is funny that you, you rarely hear people say they, you hear people often say they wish they had more.
Not that they had too many, you know, it's often that
Tex: [00:03:24] it depends on if you got that one. That's totally screw up at age 40. Oh yeah. I wish I hadn't had that one. Oh, no, they don't say that. They don't say that they think that, but they don't say that. They'll say it. Somebody said the other day, um, one of my friends online.
So it's something about how amazing it was to be able to, uh, use your phone, to text message money to your kids. And I replied back. Yeah, well not when they're 36. No, that's not cool. That's right.
Mike: [00:03:54] They know it's just a text message away so they can just text you for it.
Tex: [00:03:58] That's it never make it [00:04:00] to you. I'm writing
Mike: [00:04:02] though.
It's funny. You talk about, um, the stress of having young kids and, and, and even just the perspective of having a pregnant wife and keeping that in perspective. And that's, that's a huge lesson. I don't stress that enough with friends that are having kids later than me, but, um, Just the energy level. I mean, you sounded like my dad, when you were saying about being tired, they watch the kids for like a weekend might ask, like, I'm, I'm beat, man.
I'm like, you had him for like two days.
Tex: [00:04:27] Good luck.
Mike: [00:04:27] You know?
Tex: [00:04:29] So the third part of that is we feed them. We don't probably don't feed them the right stuff. We'll give them way too many. Cookies and sugar and we suffer the consequences of that, but I'm just glad I had them when it w you know, my daughter ended up having kids when she did, because I'm only 59.
Right. I can still go do stuff, go fishing with a run on the beach with them, that kind of thing. You know, I'm not 80 something into rolling out the side of my mouth and telling them to go away, you know? And that's, that's, that's a blessing. That's the problem I see with these guys. Oh, I'm going to wait until I'm 50 to have kids.
Really. You could be 70 when they get out of it, you know, when they go into college or [00:05:00] something, you know, you don't really want that. I mean, is that really what you're after?
Mike: [00:05:03] Yeah. Yeah. Well, Hey, I know you, um, you have blog, right? You talk about some of these topics, but one of them stems around your journey with, um, your in, in your marriage, where you had a, it sounded like, you know, a transformational moment where you embraced a dominant, submissive, um, you know, lifestyle.
And to me that, the interesting thing about me about that with me was that, um, It is conveyed. And I think a negative light or a, not an appropriate light, you know, in, you know, 50 shades of gray or whatever you want to call it. That's out there in the mainstream. That's totally different, but I'm a, I'm a believer.
So, you know, in terms of being a view in the demand is the head of the house and, and some of the traditional values, there's so much wisdom there that me and my wife had that. You know, relationship and that those roles. And what was interesting to me was some of the stories you hear from guys and from fathers and husbands, that when their [00:06:00] kids move out of the...
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"In other discipline, at some point you have someone working with you to take you to the next level. Every single professional athlete has a coach because they reached the limit of what they can do on their own." -Ryan Vaughn
If one of your employees or team members came to you and said they were feeling overwhelmed and overworked, needing a break, what would you do? Like any great leader you would listen to what they were going through and likely give them the time they needed to sort things out, and get back on track mentally. The issue as leaders is that we rarely do this for ourselves, and we should. Most leaders are burnt out on some level, and few invest in themselves in a way that gets them back to full speed.
Today's guest, Ryan Vaughn, talks about the burnout he experienced in his startup (VNN) and how he came to grips with it. He now helps founders that are dealing with similar issues in their own company.
Where to find Ryan:
Twitter https://twitter.com/RyanHVaughn Blog http://ryanhvaughn.com/LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanhvaughn/Transcription below (may contain typos...):
Ryan: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] I was swimming in the water to such a degree that I didn't realize that I was in the water.Right. I just, I didn't realize that I was, I was. Playing such a role that it, that I actually was, I felt like this was just what you had to do.
Mike: [00:00:13] What would you do if one of your employees or one of your team members came to you and said they were stressed out, they were feeling overwhelmed. They felt like that was inhibiting their ability to do their job. Well, if you're actually a good leader, you would first listen to what they're going through and, and what that means for them. But then second, you would probably be pretty gracious with letting them have some time off to sort through some of the things so that they can come back to their a hundred percent capacity or potential.
And oftentimes as leaders, we see this with our direct reports or people in our team. But we don't extend that same grace to ourselves. We don't allow ourselves [00:01:00] to. Heal or to address those personal issues that were maybe experiencing when it comes to feeling overwhelmed or burnout. Um, as some might call it.
Well, that's exactly what I hit on today with Ryan Vaughn and the conversation we had about his startup and, and the journey over almost a decade, uh, of, you know, building a company and then dealing with burnout and trying to sort that out and. And now he helps founders do that and it helps founders, you know, sort out.
You know, levels of burnout and how to recover and return with their best, um, efforts for their business. So let's happen to interview with ryan
all right today on the podcast. I have Ryan Vaughn. Who's the founder of varsity news network. He is a recovering founder, I think is maybe the term that he would use, but, um, very successful startup here in grand Rapids, Michigan.
He's also a father. Um, welcome to the show, Ryan.
Ryan: [00:01:58] Thank you. Thanks for having me on Mike. It's [00:02:00] good to be here.
Mike: [00:02:01] Yeah, I, um, you know, obviously you and I have, um, met previously, uh, which is different from some guests that I have on, you know, I haven't met them and haven't had a personal relationship with them, but you started varsity news network, um, here in grand Rapids.
Um, Which is a tech startup and, you know, your journey in that is what I really want to hear and,
Ryan: [00:02:22] and unpack, because I
Mike: [00:02:23] think it's a, probably a familiar story for a lot of startup founders that, um, you know, go through this rush of the fundraising and then they get to a point where maybe they get burned out.
And, um, by me, they don't even know that they're burned out and then. In the midst of that, they're trying to be a dad. And that's where this podcast is really meant to, to talk about as well. So I was wondering if you could just start at the beginning, tell me a little bit about, um, how varsity news network came to be
Ryan: [00:02:51] and a little bit of that story and the origin.
Yeah. Um, yeah, so [00:03:00] I, I, uh, didn't have any sort of business background. Uh, you know, I, I got my degree in creative writing and was a fine arts kid for, you know, throughout most of my life. Although I did play sports wizard, which was maybe a little bit of a contradiction. Um, and, and started, uh, you know, after school I was working at a car dealership and I was the director of e-commerce at the car dealership, which was a made up title that basically meant that they didn't have a website.
And I was the guy who was going to do that. And, uh, and you know, it was a way for me to have a title that I liked this post and. In the midst of doing that, I started, uh, a, uh, blog, which became something became like a pretty successful blog called West Michigan all-star and convinced my boss to pay for it, uh, through sponsorship.
And basically instead of paying me money where he allowed me to do was to, uh, go to [00:04:00] sports, uh, go to high school sports events and write about it at work. And so at that time, I was like the. Probably the country's only, um, gainfully employed sports writer at a car dealership. Uh, and it was, you know, it was an interesting ride that was around 2008.
So then the whole market took a crap, um, in the, uh, in the, um, you know, in the auto industry. So I got a chance to see that, and that was interesting. And, and, you know, throughout that whole period of time, I was still, um, Covering sports. You know, I, uh, went back to school and, uh, got my master's at that point.
And, um, and was working at the center for entrepreneurship at grand Valley. And so it got sort of an introduction to, you know, what building things like blogs and business could be, uh, through that and kind of got introduced to the scene. And this was maybe 2000 and 2009, maybe. Um, And, uh, [00:05:00] and I remember I was, I had the idea for Vinn while I was covering high school sports for West Michigan all-star.
And because I was putting me in the 10 people or so, who were working at West Michigan, all-star were putting so much time into covering sports and we had just had to cover, uh, you know, football and basketball, disproportionally to everything else, just because that's where the interest was. We, um, You know, it, it was obvious to me that like, well, there should just be a platform where schools can do their own coverage.
And that was the birth of Vienna. And I remember when I first had that idea, I held onto it. So tightly, it was going to be my bajillion dollar idea that, you know, that made my career and all this. And so I wasn't telling anybody about it. And as a result, nothing much was happening for awhile. And, um, and I was at Ford field.
Uh, covering the high school football championships around Thanksgiving for, um, you know, Thanksgiving, probably 2009, [00:06:00] um, for West Michigan all-star and I'm on roughly the 50 yard line. And this guy that I knew comes up to me, he was also covering high school sports on the East side of the state. His name was Matt Anderson and he, I knew him vaguely, and he comes up to me and he's like, Hey, Ryan, I want to tell you about this i...
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"I completely numbed myself out because it's like, you know, what do you do if your kid's stuck under the car? Like. You lift up the car, you find a way, and if it feels like your, your arms are going to come out of their sockets, will you keep holding until they crawl out from underneath the car?
You don't know where you find the energy you just, you just do. Right. It was like that, you know, you just have to numb yourself out to take care of people. But that was the wrong way to go about it. Like I, and of course it ultimately reached a breaking point. I ultimately reached a breaking point that resulted in my being burned out and depressed for two years." -Sean McCabe
Have you ever thought to yourself "am I burning out?", then that means you already are on your way (according to Sean McCabe).
Sean (known to most as seanwes) talks about burnout from very real experience, having reached max burnout running his company over the past 10 years. He is someone that I have followed over the past few years because of the wisdom that he shares openly with his audience, this topic being no exception. This topic is so very important today more than ever due to the changes going on in the world. Most people are operating in some low level burn out state and don't realize it or know how to fix it.
Very fun chat with Sean. I also found out in the interview that he is from a family with 13 kids!
Where to find Sean:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/seanwes
His Blog: https://seanwes.com/
His Agency: DailyContentMachine.coTranscript Below (May contain typos):
Sean: [00:00:00] [00:00:00]I completely numbed myself out because it's like, you know, what do you do if your kid's stuck under the car? Like. You lift up the car, you find a way, and if it feels like your, your arms are going to come out of their sockets, will you keep holding until they crawl out from underneath the car?You don't know where you find the energy you just, you just do. Right. It was like that, you know, you just have to numb yourself out to take care of people. But that was the wrong way to go about it. Like I, and of course it ultimately reached a breaking point. I ultimately reached a breaking point that resulted in my being burned out and depressed for two years.
Mike: [00:00:38] Have you ever asked yourself? I feel like I might be burning out. Well, if you have, then you probably already are on your way. It just a matter of how burned out you are, but you're inevitably going to reach that point of total burnout unless you change something. , that was the advice given by today's guest, Sean McCabe.
[00:01:00] Most might know him by his, online named Sean Wes. He's a guy that I've followed for quite a few years and very prolific entrepreneur online, very, , inspiring creator, , in a lot of the work that he does, but. He shares a lot of good wisdom around the topic of burnout, which has come up a lot in conversations I've had with fellow entrepreneurs.
So if you're feeling like you're burned out, I encourage you just to listen in on today's episode, to understand a little bit more about what you can do about it. And one of the topics that Sean talks about is this notion of a sabbatical. And it's something I've been really interested in, really seeing a lot more people.
Experiment with it. And there will be more content on that to come in the podcast. But I wanted you to learn from Sean and hear his story because. The last thing you want to do is repeat a mistake that you could have [00:02:00] learned by hearing someone else talk about it so let's jump into the episode with sean
today on the podcast, we have a very special guest, um, Sean McCabe known on the internet as Shawn West, um, from many projects, but I've been following Sean for a long time. He does amazing work. He is an entrepreneur with many different ventures. He's an author, podcaster, vlogger, um, He's not a dad, but he brings a very unique perspective to balancing entrepreneurship with, um, with burnout and, and, and a sabbatical as a solution.
So, Sean, thank you so much for being on the show, man. It's it's such an honor to have you on the show.
Sean: [00:02:39] Oh, thanks so much, Mike. I I've been looking forward to it. I'm glad we were able to make it happen. You're right. Not a dad, but I am the oldest of 13 kids and I've changed well over a thousand diapers. So I don't know what that qualifies me, but
Mike: [00:02:52] I should have known that before this interview, I knew you had a big family.
You're the oldest of
Sean: [00:02:56] 13 kids. That is awesome.
Mike: [00:02:59] That is [00:03:00] amazing. Yeah. So, so we need to start there then. So you got, so I guess, um, you know, I know you've done a lot and I don't want to get too much into the business side, even though you, you have some amazing accomplishments there and, and a lot of the ventures that you started, but, um, man, tell me about, tell me about growing up in a family of 13 kids.
That's awesome.
Sean: [00:03:22] Never a dull moment for sure. I remember walking around the house with a camera, like one of those before smartphones had cameras, you know, just film filming in every room. And there was a kid, there was multiple kids in every room, like just all over the, you know, the couch and under the desk and everywhere.
Um, so never a dull moment. Uh, but they're, they're great, you know, really well behaved, like we'd go out to eat. Everyone's super well behaved. You know, people would. Give compliments to the parents. So great family. We're all really good. Good friends. Still stay really close today. Um, yeah, it's it's holidays are a [00:04:00] blast and it's starting to grow exponentially as like kids have kids.
And, um, but for now, for now, we can meet. In one house for the holidays.
Mike: [00:04:10] That is awesome. Yeah. So, um, you said you're the oldest? Um, so my wife is the eldest of eight kids. Um, and I, and everyone is says, Whoa, whenever I zone that, I'm the, I'm the youngest of four, but. I'm sure you experienced this too. It's like when you have a get together, it's like a huge party and it's just family members, right?
Sean: [00:04:30] It's like
Mike: [00:04:33] just immediate family. It's not even aunts
Sean: [00:04:34] and uncles. It's a, it's a good time. I had started my first business. Um, so I'm, I'm almost 32. So about 15, 16 years ago is when I started my first business. I still lived at home, uh, just coming out of high school and, um, Yeah, I would work like after midnight, because that's when it would get quiet.
That was like the only time that was, I had this focus time.
[00:05:00] Mike: [00:05:00] That's awesome. Yeah. So we, um, I feel that same way, but I have four kids at home, so I feel ya, you know, I got the, we got the fifth one coming in February.
Sean: [00:05:08] Um, but congrats.
Mike: [00:05:10] Well, thank you. Um, That's I'm so I'm pumped. I'm sorry, I'm thrown off a little bit.
I'm so excited to hear that you
Sean: [00:05:16] were
Mike: [00:05:17] 13 because you have such a unique perspective.
Sean: [00:05:20] Um, and, and, uh, homeschooled, which I thin...
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Summary
High education is in crisis. Student debt in the USA is now past $1.6 Trillion and many students are coming out ill-equipped as well as disillusioned. Josh Sabo is trying to help students caught up in this. He is the founder of a non-profit called "The Industry". They help people sort out their careers and life, to develop a plan that sets them up for success in each area.Where to Find Josh:
His website: https://www.learntheindustry.org/
Transcription below (may contain typo's...):
[00:00:00] Josh: [00:00:00] and that's, what's so important about our line. We help young people clarify their career path. Just like you said, with those glasses, when it's clear, it's easy, maybe not easy but easier.You, you know where you're heading. You know, you have a, the detailed plan, our students graduate with a detailed life plan. That means, what am I doing tomorrow the next day, next week, all the way to their end, a vision plan, where they have that house, they have that family, they have that job. That's perfect for them and we help them connect the dots all the way through.
Mike: [00:00:33] Today's episode is all about college and careers. Did you know that the total us student debt is 1.6 trillion with a T trillion dollars. And that the average student holds about $30,000 of debt. Wow. Those are astronomical numbers. Maybe some of those you knew, but nonetheless [00:01:00] daunting. And so there's obviously a large crisis at hand here. And so I talked with Josh
Who's the founder of a non-profit called the industry. And what they do is they work with, , future college students, current college students, and even graduates to sort out their life and help them plan out what the best path is for them. Sometimes that. Includes college. Sometimes it doesn't include college, but they are trying to beat this hat on to prevent students from racking up a bunch of debt, just to figure out they didn't want to do that thing.
So let's jump into the episode with Josh. He shares a little bit about what they are doing now, what the future of the organization is and where they are pro success, not anti college.
welcome to another edition of the Tucson dad podcast. Today. I have the pleasure of speaking with mr. Josh SIBO, who runs the industry.
He's also a good friend of mine. He was a, I [00:02:00] lived with him when I was in college. So we go way back. So Josh, thank you so much for being on the podcast, man.
Josh: [00:02:06] And it's good to be here.
Mike: [00:02:08] So you are. You are disrupting the college kind of plan in a good way, in the sense like what the industry does is it helps people avoid getting into tons of debt.
And just going into colleges cause that's the default, right? Maybe I should let you pitch it. Cause I'm real excited. I love, I love what you're doing, man.
Josh: [00:02:28] I mean, I don't know. I'm not sure if anybody can agree that a bunch of debt is a good thing, unless that debt is going to a degree, that's going to make you more money.
That'll pay it off and make you more money in the end. Uh, it was funny. I think it was Warren buffet that says I wouldn't invest in most kids' college education. So it's gotta be a real investment, but we are not against, we are pro success. We are anti failure. And with the amount of people that are graduating and not using their degree for its intended purpose, the amount of freshmen that are dropping out, I think it's at 36%.
[00:03:00] Um, there was a new study out that 60 something percent of young people are just disappointed with the jobs they have after college. They use their degree for, so the industry is a program that helps young people clarify their career path. Uh, IBM we just partnered with IBM and they said they wanted to partner with us because we have a listic view of education with the individual.
So essentially we'll look at the idea unity of the person, you know, a lot of people say, follow your passion. I say, follow your identity because passion is involved in identity. What's also involved as personality values, experiences, your whole life, all summed up in one semester with the industry. And then we take all that information and put it into three desired paths, three careers that would make sense for the individual.
So when they go to college, they are more. Confident in what they want to be doing. They'll get way better grades. They won't have as near as much anxiety or depression or fear of the future. And there's [00:04:00] just an enormous amount of, of success. So that's, that's what we do.
Mike: [00:04:06] That's awesome. It, to me, it's almost like, sounds like a structured gap year.
You know, when people are like take a gap year and don't go to the default and rack up a bunch of debt, but the gap year is not really structured. Right. And maybe someone's like, well, I'm going to travel and you'll learn a little bit about yourself, but you're not in a structured way where you come out of that way, better off in terms of direction.
Right.
Josh: [00:04:27] This did come from the idea of the gap here. A I consider it a gap year on steroids. One of the things that we didn't want is for students to take a full on gap here because a lot of times students lose their scholarships for college. And so we wanted to make it a three month program. So young people could take it while they're in high school or before they go to college.
Or even after college, we have an enormous amount of 22, 23 year olds going through the program who have degrees and who regret it. They have debt and they have a degree for a career that they don't necessarily want [00:05:00] anymore. So, yeah, it's, it's formulated off of the idea of the gap year. Um, but it's a, it's a gap year on steroids.
Um, we are connecting with is Ireland right now. We're going to have a location in Ireland. We're hoping to have a lot of different locations around the world. So that students can have the option to go travel during this period of time. Maybe extend their time with the industry, go through the program while they're in Ireland to go through the program while they're in New Zealand.
So in the next two years or so, we're going to have that pretty much lined up so that students can come through the program in a different country that they'd like to be in.
Mike: [00:05:35] Yeah, that's amazing, man. And tell me a little bit about like some of the students that come in and, and some of the progress that they make after going through the industry, like they're coming in, like you said that they're, maybe they already have a degree.
Maybe they're in high school, you know? W what, what are the, like, what are the, the pains that they have when they're coming in? And then when they come out and they say, [00:06:00] wow, You know, this is, this is the progress I made. Tell me a little bit about those
Josh: [00:06:02] stories. Confidence. Confidence is the main one. I always like to say, uh, one of my, one of my greatest gifts is to be able to encourage somebody.
And that is to give somebody courage. A lot of people know a little bit about what they'd like to do, but their fears and their limiting beliefs keep them from pursuing those things. So a lot of times we hear this, I'm just going to go college and maybe I'll figure it out there. Uh, it's the safety net.
Um, but I say confidence ...
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Ryan Seamons is a father of 5, the founder or Groove, and also a friend. They make physical products to help people have meaningful conversations about work and their careers. So much of that carries over to life at home and how we think about the paths that we are on. A great conversation about making time to have conversations with each other and ourselves to craft the best future.
Where To Find Ryan
Twitter https://twitter.com/ryanseamonsBlog https://ryanseamons.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanseamonsCompany https://meetgroove.com/Study Mentioned in Episode https://bronnieware.com/blog/regrets-of-the-dying/
Transcription below (may contain typos...):[00:00:00] Ryan: [00:00:00] regret, number one, she said this was far and away.
The biggest, the most common regret that people had, and it was, I wish I'd had the courage to live a life true to me, self, not the life others expected of me. And so when you talk about the stories, you tell yourself what, in listening, we hear advice from others all the time, right? People think they're coaching.
What they're actually doing is giving advice. Giving advice is not coaching. Coaching is helping you understand what you want and people aren't good at that.
Mike: [00:00:25] Careers and kids, how do we talk about our own careers? How do we talk about careers to our kids? What are the stories that we tell ourselves about our careers and what we like and dislike about them? that's a conversation I had with Ryan Siemens who runs a company called groove. They actually make physical cards.
, that facilitate conversations. About careers. And we talked about careers. We talked about schooling. We talked about education and ukuleles and how to get your kids to do. Anything you want them to do using ukuleles. [00:01:00] So let's jump into the interview
well today on the podcast, Ryan Siemens joins us. Thank you for being on the show, Ryan. Welcome.
Ryan: [00:01:10] Yeah. Thanks. Glad to be here.
Mike: [00:01:11] Yeah. So Ryan runs company called groove.
I was previously with LinkedIn. He's a multi startup kind of guy too. Um, But groove is a really interesting company. Um, and maybe I'll have you explain it because you'd explain it better, but I will say, I should say you are a father of five as well, which is one of the key reasons I wanted to have you on this podcast, um, to share wisdom there.
You're also a friend. Um, so Ryan tell us what, tell us what groove is all about.
Ryan: [00:01:37] Yeah, well, excited to be here. And so groove, this is a recent, um, recent company has started and the idea behind groove is we are creating physical experiences to help people be more fulfilled in life. And so we're, we're building a series of, of physical experiences, uh, that are, uh, conversational.
Most of them in nature, and they are centered around work. Around education and then [00:02:00] around family. So our we've really just released our first product for work. It's called career conversations, and it is a card deck. And soon to becoming a career roadmap guide that you can fill out with, uh, to help you think about what's important in your career and where do you want to go?
Uh, so that you can not just have a good path ahead of you, but find fulfillment in work.
Mike: [00:02:20] Yeah, no, that's great. I think it's a huge need and I'm actually holding the physical cards right here in front of me, your career cards, which I wear are very well done. They're very well designed. Tell, tell us a little bit about how the tell, tell me how the, the idea came about.
Like how, how did you identify this need and how, how did the whole product come to fruition?
Ryan: [00:02:41] Yeah. So the, the, for me, the idea of guidance experiences has always been an interesting thought in my mind. And this started actually when I was at LinkedIn. So we designed, I got hired at LinkedIn to design the first learning system internally.
At the time we called it learning today, you'll know that as LinkedIn learning, right. Um, and as we [00:03:00] design that, the piece that resonated most with people as we were building that out was something we called at the time. The transformation plan sounds pretty cliche now, but the idea behind it was a walkthrough experience kind of step by step to help people identify, well, what skill do I want to learn?
What content could I learn about and how do I take steps in that? And people just really like that right there. There's naturally we all want to know what's the next step. Like, what's the next thing. So I've liked that idea of telling people the next step fast forward then to about a year ago. Uh, we got introduced to some other companies that were doing, uh, then card decks out there.
One is Stanford. There's something they call the values deck. They don't sell it externally. Another company called Instructure, created something called the drivers deck, which is similar to this. But again, they don't, they don't sell it. They use it as lead generation for the product. Um, we, we ended up looking at 12 different products that all kind of touched on this point.
But for me, I wanted to find something that an individual could pick up and could use in conversation with their manager up here, or even a spouse, and that they could get [00:04:00] the help beyond just the, the cards themselves, the values sort. Um, and that just didn't exist. So we started. Started asking lots of questions.
We ended up doing 200, I think about now we're up to 230 personal interviews that we've done, where we've walked through and gotten feedback on the words, the mechanism that the deck, the approach. Um, and so we feel really good about the feedback that we've gotten and, and finding a set of words that resonate with people that are, uh, that are wide enough for people to identify with and then thinking about, okay, how do we go from.
Someone saying, I don't really know how to have a career conversation or yeah. As a manager, I know I should have this, but I don't know really what to say or people that start with what we think is actually a bad way to start a career conversation. The question where do you see yourself in five years? I actually think that's a horrible way to start a career conversation.
I instead
Mike: [00:04:43] you should. Why is it a horrible way to start a
Ryan: [00:04:45] company? Great question. It's a horrible way to start a career conversation because it skips over all of the why. It says cool. Jumped to like, where do you want to be an artist too often? It's easy to slip into normal scripts. [00:05:00] So we say, well, where do I want to be?
Well, I want to get promoted. I want to make lots of money. I want to be famous. It's just easy to think we want those things. But instead when you start by exploring, well, what do I care about? Today. Uh, and, and why do I care about that? And you started consists of the conversation guide that we share has a couple of questions about your past.
What led you to hear about your future? Where do you think you want to go? And then your present? How do we start now? And this is i...
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