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  • 这期误读会我们分享捷克作家米兰·昆德拉Milan Kundera1990年出版的小说「不朽」。嘉宾是张宇凌和高高。


    昆德拉的小说作品分别是:


    「玩笑」(1967年)

    「好笑的愛」(短篇小说集,1968年)

    「生活在他方」(1969年)

    「告别圆舞曲」(1976年)

    「笑忘書」(又譯「笑忘錄」)(1978年)

    「生命中不能承受之輕」(1984年)

    「不朽」(1990年)

    「慢」(1995年)

    「身份」(1998年)

    「無知」(2000年)

    「慶祝無意義」(2013年以意大利文發表,中譯本2014出版)


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    小说

    Immortality 「不朽」,米兰·昆德拉

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1060117


    小说

    The Unbearable Lightness of Being 「生命中不能承受之轻」,米兰·昆德拉

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1433377


    电影

    布拉格之恋,丹尼尔·戴-刘易斯 / 朱丽叶·比诺什 

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291859


    非虚构

    米兰·昆德拉:一种作家人生,让–多米尼克•布里埃 

    https://book.douban.com/subject/35285924/


    口述历史

    二手时间,S. A. 阿列克谢耶维奇

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26704403/


    德剧

    德国八九年 Deutschland 89,Sundance TV

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/30454891/


    报道

    Report Says Acclaimed Czech Writer Informed on a Supposed Spy, NYTimes

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/world/europe/14czech.html?smid=url-share


    播客

    Unpack 以赛亚柏林的「浪漫主义的根源」,文化土豆

    https://culturepotato.com/unpack-the-roots-of-romanticism


    编辑推荐:


    英剧

    Line of Duty/「重任在肩」第六季, BBC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27062703/


    杂志

    「三联生活周刊无聊研究」

    4.12日出版


    小说

    「克拉拉与太阳」,石黑一雄



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  • 这周调戏栏目分享的剧目是这部美国剧作家 Augusut Wilson 奥古斯特·威尔逊 1984 年的话剧「莱妮大妈的黑臀」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom。这部话剧最近被 Netflix 翻拍成为同名电影,也正好是今年奥斯卡奖最佳男主提名,Chuck Boseman (漫威海报扮演者),生前最后一部作品,电影的中文名叫「蓝调天后」。


    威尔逊以编年史的方式创作了10部发生在匹兹堡的系列话剧,分别展现了20世纪美国黑人在每一个10年的历史。Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom 的故事发生在 1920 年代。


    威尔逊的匹兹堡系列话剧 Pittsburg Cycle分别是:


    1900s: Gem of the Ocean (2003)

    1910s: Joe Turner’s Come and Gone (1986)

    1920s: Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom (1984)

    1930s: The Piano Lesson (1987)

    1940s: Seven Guitars (1995)

    1950s: Fences (1985)

    1960s: Two Trains Running (1990)

    1970s: Jitney (1982)

    1980s: King Hedley II (1999)

    1990s: Radio Golf (2005)


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    电影

    「蓝调天后」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/34439631/


    电影

    「冲出康普顿」Straight Outta Compton, F Gary Gray

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3608742/


    电影

    「为奴十二年」12 Years a Slave,Steve McQueen

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/6879185/


    电影

    「白宫管家」The Butler,Lee Daniels

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3292949/


    美术馆

    National Museum of African American History & Culture, Smithsonian

    https://nmaahc.si.edu


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  • 这周我们 Launch 一个新的月播栏目叫 #三刷,每次重温两部历久弥新的电影作品。这个栏目的的常设主播搭配是晏礼中和樊夏,我们准备先做10期看看。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    少林寺,李连杰

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1301198/


    电影

    佐罗,阿兰·德龙

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291866/


    编辑推荐


    时装秀

    Celine Homme “Teen Knight Poem”

    https://youtu.be/JXEjb7VpkjI


    美剧

    基地恶灵第一季,AMC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/24722767/


    小说

    中士还乡,阎连科

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26337746/


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  • 玛格丽特·米德(Margaret Mead)可能是全世界最有名的人类学家,她在 1925 年前往南太平洋岛国的萨摩耶岛(Samoa),融入当地部落生活,在调查了萨摩亚人的生活后写成的一本「萨摩亚人的成年」(Coming of Age in Samoa)1928 年在美国出版引起轰动。米德记录下的萨萨摩亚少女,在青春期就有开放自由的性生活,同性恋情,晚婚,婚外恋和和离婚并不让人惊讶,而且似乎有着比文明社会人们更健康的心理。在过去的近一百年间,虽然这本书一直饱受争议,但是米德的这本书不仅改变了人类学的研究方式,似乎还像先知一样,指明了现代人性观念的变化方。这里是这期节目的预览部分,完整节目一共 45 分钟,只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com,购买赞助人计划后,在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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  • 这期节目我们和上海的樊夏连线聊聊赵婷的金球奖、金狮奖桂冠得主 Nomadland 和 Netflix 上的新黑白电影 Malcolm & Marie。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    Nomadland 无伊之地,赵婷

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/30458949/


    非虚构

    Nomadland,Jessica Bruder

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27146694/


    电影

    骑士 The Rider,赵婷

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27012772/


    音乐视频

    Elegy for the Arctic,Ludovico Einaudi

    https://youtu.be/2DLnhdnSUVs


    航海Vlogger

    Sailing La Vagabond

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZdQjaSoLjIzFnWsDQOv4ww


    电影

    Malcolm & Marie/马尔科姆与玛丽, Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35135958/


    电影

    婚姻故事/Marriage Story,Noah Baumbach

    https://movie.douban.com/celebrity/1049678/


    编辑推荐


    动画短片

    Lost & Found

    https://www.lostandfound.film


    纪录片

    Fake Famous 虚名,Nick Bilton

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35337704/


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  • 这周调戏栏目我们看看爱尔兰剧作家,1969年诺贝尔文学奖得主塞缪尔·贝克特 Samuel Beckett 的话剧作品,但不是「等待戈多」!而是「克拉普最后的录音带」—— 一部很多男性老戏骨在演艺生涯尾声都会尝试发挥和解读的独角戏。嘉宾是Gigi和方曌。我们观看的是 John Hurts 2000 录制的版本。


    克拉普的最后碟带 Krapp’s Last Tape 观剧链接

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cx411p7Zm


    其他链接也可以在 YouTube 上搜索到


    节目中提到的其他作品信息


    Samuel Beckett 的话剧


    Krapp’s Last Tape/克拉普最后的录音带

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2243290


    Waiting for Godot/等待戈多

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747147


    Endgame/终局

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747152


    Happy Days/开心的日子

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747155


    视频

    Harold Pinter on Samuel Beckett

    https://youtu.be/-N99S8n2TiA


    小说

    Effi Briest,Theodor Fontane

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1880661/


    小说

    The man in the gray flannel suit/穿灰色法兰绒套装的男人,David Sloan

     Wilson

    https://book.douban.com/subject/25838255/


    小说

    The Mandarins/名士风流,Simone de Beauvoir

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1079208/


    电影

    哥斯拉(1954), 本多猪四郎 

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2059276/


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  • 很多人都看过铁叔饰演的「故园风雨后」,但是也许你并不了解英国作家伊夫林·沃的拿手好戏其实是他在加入天主教之前的写得那些精干恶毒的讽刺小说。这期误读会我们选择了一篇结合了婚外恋、游记、还甚至有点“黑镜”的「一抔尘土」,故事发生在英格兰乡村古宅、伦敦的绅士俱乐部和亚马逊的原始丛林里。嘉宾是高高和张宇凌。


    文化土豆的的一些其他节目也和伊夫林·沃及其时代有关:


    一战停战日百年纪念特辑

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000423512699

    威廉·莫里斯与工美运动

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000460912527



    节目中提到的作品信息


    小说

    一抔尘土/A Handful of Dust,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27045891


    长诗

    荒原 Wasteland,TS Eliot

    https://book.douban.com/subject/6440343


    报告文学

    The Coronatino of Haile Selassie, Evelyn Waugh

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/883282


    小说

    故园风雨后/Brideshead Revisited,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26975428


    英剧故园风雨后(1981)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1439497/


    电影故园风雨后(2008)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2034997/


    小说

    衰落与瓦解/Decline and Fall,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/21346006/


    小说

    独家新闻/Scoop,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27045190/


    法剧

    Engrenages(共八季)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3661930/



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  • 这期春节期间发布的节目,主播和 Richard 一起分享 Hoxton Books 书店的装修工作,特别是不同的书架、桌椅、吊灯背后的故事。这个 pop-up 系列是通过简单慢速英文录制,文字信息由 Otter.AI 整理。


    节目中提到的信息链接


    606 Universal Bookshelf

    wiloyem255@donmah.com


    纪录片 RAMS

    https://www.hustwit.com/rams


    Krossing 书架

    https://www.kriptonite.com/en/products/krossing


    Tylko Type 2 书架

    https://tylko.com/shelf/bookcases/1504423/


    Tiptoe 桌腿

    https://www.tiptoe.fr/en/table-legs/


    Bertoia Molded Shell Side Chair

    https://www.knoll.com/product/bertoia-molded-side-chair


    Dr Glob Chair by Philippe Starck

    http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O144604/dr-glob-chair-philippe-starck/dr-glob-chair-starck-philippe/ 


    文字信息:


    Yifan 

    Hi, Richard


    Yifan 

    So what are we going to talk about this week? 


    Richard 

    Well, actually, let me let me wish everyone a Happy New Year. Oh, right. Happy, happy, happy New Year of the ox. Yeah. Thank you. Happy New Year, everyone. So this week, we're gonna talk about the shop design. So the format is going to be slightly different. In that, I will be asking you fun, a few questions about how the design of the shop came about. Just a little update on the situation here.


    Richard 

    Real lockdown, the country is still under national lockdown, which means that only only food shops could open pretty much.


    Richard 

    Which means we and we still don't even though the numbers have come down. We still don't know when we're going to open. So we're waiting.


    Yifan 

    In the meantime, I think in Scotland, bookshops are open. Oh, really? Oh, you didn't know? Yeah. No, I was not aware. But I've not been keeping a close eye on Scotland. They just had more snow than us. That's That's all I know.


    Richard 

    So maybe, maybe you find you could just provide us with a brief description of the location and the space where the shop is.


    Yifan 

    Thanks, Richard. So if you listen to our very first episode, we did describe roughly the layout and the location of the shop. The shop is in an area called Hoxton in London. And it's next door to a Chinese supermarket.


    Yifan 

    The building is actually not one of those you see in their London Film. Like Notting Hill, it's more like a building you would see in a second tier City in, in China, I guess, but probably smaller, less.


    Richard 

    It's, it's a modern building.


    Yifan 

    Now you say it that way. It's a five storey, what 10 years old, 10 years old, five storey tall apartment block in a busy road. And so on the ground floor, you have what's called commercial units. So within this apartment block, there are two commercial units. One is a Chinese supermarket. And the other is going to be a half Chinese bookshop within our commercial unit Chinese bookshop.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Well, it's kind of like a Chinese British run bookshop. Within our unit,


    Unknown Speaker 

    we are sharing the book The shop space with a with an art gallery. So we only occupy one third of the space. And the art gallery occupies two thirds the space, but we share the same entrance.


    Unknown Speaker 

    If that makes sense.


    Unknown Speaker 

    There's just one entrance for both. So you have you enter the gallery to enter the bookshop. Yes, exactly. So when you enter if you turn left is the bookshop. If you turn right is the gallery ish. Maybe I should also say something about the floor of our the our half of the shop is about 15 to 20 square metres. And we have fairly high a fairly high ceiling so from floor to ceiling is about four there is Yeah, shall we say? four metres? three metres, at least three point something. Yeah, it's a pretty high ceiling. Yeah. So yeah, 3.5 metres. But the shape of the space is a triangle. It's one of those classic triangles as Rachel would say, you study in a trigonometry class. So the road runs along I would say p pata news I bought a news hypotony news. And then we have an along that side. Let me maybe just use Chinese to describe this. So the triangle is like a different like a ghost ankles, the shell Dominica, semiotic Chung, okay. So a hypotenuse is the shroud was a bit okay. And what chord adjacent is the Jericho sank was the neighbour and then the opposite side is the Was it the right the right angle sides are opposite the opposite the hypotenuse? Yes, this is great. This is like Pythagoras theorem, a squared plus b squared equals c squared. Exactly. So


    Unknown Speaker 

    Basically imagine hypotenuse is the seat is the? Yes. So imagine the voice is three, four and five metres long, which roughly it probably is it's slightly bigger than that. Yeah, yeah, that's the class. Yeah, Pythagoras. theorem try Yes. And the opposite side is the three, the adjacent side is the four. And the hypotenuse side is the five.


    Unknown Speaker 

    That a 10 out. Okay, so that's a space. And when you go into the shop, you go through the smallest acute angle, kind of, right? Again, it's a gap in the wall, never mind like a little, rather than in the middle of a side, it's on the side of a side, if that makes sense. Basically, as you go in, and maybe you want to explain that one in Chinese,


    Unknown Speaker 

    it's already very confused as you go into the shop. On your left, it's the hypotenuse. And it's got a window in the middle, and that's facing the busy road. And then on your right is the adjacent side, that's just like a wall that's dividing our bookshop and the shop next door. And then we have the opposite side, you have another wall.


    Unknown Speaker 

    That that's the layout. Is that essentially, it sounds like a lot of wolves to put put bookshelves on exactly. Basically this. There's one takeaway from all this. And what was your question? So he did the desert? Yeah, yeah. So essentially, what was what we went back, but essentially, the question was, who did the design planning? Okay. So there were two designs. So one, we consulted a friend in Beijing, who's a who's a interior designer. And he gave a, you know, very simple layout, which actually looks pretty much like much like what we got in the end, like what we got in the end. But what happened was, we also engaged a London designer, who's also a friend and practically worked for free on this. And I wouldn't say she designed the shop, she walked through, you know, with us the different options. And yeah, she guided us with design work, I would say helped us to choose colours and


    Unknown Speaker 

    etc. and sounds fine. Yeah. Yeah. And then should we name checker or name checker practice? Yeah. What is her practice called?


    Unknown Speaker 

    Gatti? Ruth Rhodes? Yes. I think they won some awards recently. Oh, yeah. That's right there. She had all sorts of Yeah, she had. She had an award. At the end of her email address, there was an award for some young architect. Yeah, yes, yeah, that sort of thing.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But I think they never did a bookshop project. And that's why she was very happy to work on this project for next to nothing fee. So that she would, you know, have this in her portfolio. Right to to,


    Unknown Speaker 

    to show off the


    Unknown Speaker 

    show for versatility. So as you walk into the bookshop, what you first notice is you are facing a massive three metre wide bookshelf. And that's kind of a wooden bookshelf, then you notice a round table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And then you notice pendant seating light hanging above the round table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And on two sides, you have these


    Unknown Speaker 

    hanging shelves, that's not standing on the floor, on the two sides. That's the main thing. And on the three wars, we have two tones. So on the


    Unknown Speaker 

    top one metre, about one metre, it's white, and then


    Unknown Speaker 

    from floor to up to say 2.2 metres is a very light grey. And we have positioned our bookshelves such that you have a top line, the grey line runs neatly on top of all the bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And let's say above the above the bookshelves are white. Yes, the walls are white. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Again, making something very simple, very confusing. It's what we're doing here. And we have two chairs as well. So all we have is 12345677 items. So three sharps, one table, two chairs and one light. That's it


    Unknown Speaker 

    right


    Unknown Speaker 

    This This was all furniture that the architectures I mean, the the most important things are the bookshelves. So the architects, we wanted to do this thing as cheaply as possible. And when I first that's the wish, and when I first Yes, imagine the bookshop, I thought we could spend 1000 pounds 2000 maximum on just getting a basic bookshop up and running. Right? So our architect told us the cheapest option would be to buy 10 IKEA Billy bookcases


    Unknown Speaker 

    and the Billy set and then just set them up like soldiers all over all around over all around covering up all the walls. Yeah, a BNC that will look ugly for sure. Because you have you can't choose the colour and then or the each individual bookshelf they will be slightly wobbly. They won't line out straight.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, they will be flush. So what happens is the architect proposed that a carpenter would what's called a box out so to build fake walls above the Billy bookcase. So it looks like we have the Billy bookcases are living inside the walls. Yeah, like building built in. Yeah. Built in bookcase. Yeah. And that boxing out alone is like 4000 pounds or something. Wow. Or maybe 2000 pounds. It's a lot of money. But anyway, it's about like a lot of money for what was basically air behind it. Yes. For a bit basically, you're actually shrinking the room. Right? You're building additional wars. Yeah, you're shrinking the room in a room that's not that big, you know, huge to start off. Exactly. And then we can build 10 Billy bookcases as we write, we actually tried this option and literally try this, didn't we? Yeah. So successful.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The architect I think they told us, you might want to buy one billet bookcase and then put it up, and then see if you like it really look like Yeah. And, and I think they realise that. Yeah, there's a good chance we won't like it. And we didn't. Right. Right. So they set us on the kind of you could try this. We don't think you're gonna like it, but you know, try anyway. Yeah. And, but they're different option is they would design like custom make bookshelves twice, which are going to be also very expensive. So that would have been more than the 4000 pounds to enclose the top of the bookcase for sure. That would be I would say twice as much. I did say in the beginning, I wanted a minimalist look. Just the focus should be the books and not the shelves. Right? That's true. And in the book shelving world there is a very famous, what's called a modular bookshelf. 606 universal shelving system. It's designed by Dieter Rams. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dieter Rams is very famous. I would say he's the Jonathan Ive Yes, a knife took a load of inspiration of Yeah, like he's like Jonathan Ives God. Right. Okay. I didn't know that the calculator design an app is basically just copy and pasted from a Dieter Rams calculator design. Right? So for people who didn't know Dieter Rams was probably working in the 60s and 70s. And maybe late even later, German. He worked for German, a German company, brown brown. That still makes toothbrushes and kitchen staff and shaving razors, etc. But they did a great documentary. We could link


    Unknown Speaker 

    link about ram RAMs, Rams. I think it's just called Rams Rams. Yeah. Yeah, we could link in the notes. I don't know.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But do know that back then. To compare it to, to Jonathan Ive of apple. Brown. Made loads of electronic goods, right like they made Yeah. record players, speakers. Sure. Yeah. calculators alarm clocks, which back then? Probably high tech.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So yeah, yeah, they were like yeah, what you know what I noticed is brown is reviving a Dieter ram kind of ish design of speakers. And that's interesting because, yeah, because now I think the brown products they don't really look as interesting.


    Unknown Speaker 

    I nearly did. I think what years ago? Exactly. So they handed the the baton to I would say Mooji. And apple.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Hmm. And yeah, probably, but then then the Rams also does this v2 thing nowadays, that's his, that's his outfit. This is what sort of going back to the 606 shelf? Yes. Which is now sold by a company called v2. But then, you know, it's massively expensive, isn't it? I mean, we could buy a lot of books without money


    Unknown Speaker 

    to buy three to fit our bookshop with Fitz who would cost a Tesla basically


    Unknown Speaker 

    right a model three it's a cheaper Tesla Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah. And but in the end, you know, we found cheaper options. Yeah. That you found these cheaper options or Yeah, I did. Yeah. And right because the architect really was was going to be too expensive designing his own shelves or Yeah, her own shelves. I found two separate things. I basically googled you know alternatives to Dieter Rams bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Alternatives to Dieter Rams. bookshelves. Yeah. And exactly. And all the options are still too expensive. What happened was then I went to a furniture shop in London. that sells nice furniture. It's Conrad Conrad shop. And of course, yeah, yeah. Who who started the shop is Terrence Terrence Conlon who died last year, didn't he? He died not that long ago. Was he a designer himself? Or is he just a dealer? That's a good question. Anyway, I think but basically known as a as a as a furniture seller than a furniture maker. Yeah. So he sells a lot of minimalist furniture, let's say, from continental Europe. And so in his shop, I found this


    Unknown Speaker 

    what's called a crossing shelf by an Italian company and Milan Milan based company called kryptonite. Right? And it's super minimal. It's even more minimal than Dieter Rams, bookshelves and rave. And it's a lot cheaper. It's still expensive, but it's a lot cheaper. So then a 606. Yeah, so what happened was, if we were to buy crossing shops for all three wars,


    Unknown Speaker 

    that would be too expensive.


    Unknown Speaker 

    I so for the longest war. So this is why we've got two different sets of shelves in this bookshop, you know, yeah. you'd imagine you just have one kind of bookcase. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So basically, as you walk into the bookshelf on the left and right hand side, you have this very minimalist shelf that's floating on the wall. And then right the shelf that's facing you, it's a floor standing. It's kind of like a billy bookshelf. But you know, it's a it's probably nicer looking. And that's a lot cheaper. And I thought it's better to have something that contrasts that looks totally different than, you know, to similar type of bookshops.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay, yeah. break some of the break some of the uniformity. Yes, exactly. So, so that's our bookshops. And I must say the the Niam the architects in it and ended up complimenting you and your choice of of bookcases, and in fact, also showed the design to a friend of mine who was an turns out to be an interior designer, and he was he was amazed at the look of these at least the first bookshelf. Yeah. That went in. So So that's, that's a bookshelf called telco it's a Polish company. And they advertised on Instagram. So Oh, maybe it's in Pinterest. Yeah, I think post is a great source once you you look for bookshelves and then you click on the pictures you use save some you like then they work out your taste and then advertise to you.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And


    Unknown Speaker 

    and these telco bookshelves, basically you can on their web website, you can say, you can completely customise how wide how tall, how many shelves you want, do you want doors, and then once you have the design, they tell you the price you pay, then they produce it and ship it to you. And everything is super simple to assemble. You just do it yourself. Yeah. So it's like really simple bespoke. Yeah. Okay, I would say on our bookshelf, still


    Unknown Speaker 

    cost over 4000 pounds. So it's still right. So we're double the original idea, right? Like the original 2000 pound idea was sort of double that. Yes. But we're not like, given what we just talked about, we could have been way beyond 4000 pounds. Yeah, at this stage. Yeah. I don't know I, because we're going to sell books. And we also want to be able to sell other items as well. Because the margins on books are quite thin. And so we don't want to limit our options. So we want the bookshop to look fancy, kind of fancy, not fancy to look tasteful. And so that we can sell other stuff as well. So I guess that's why we overspent a bit on ice shelves. Yeah. Right. Okay. I didn't want two people to walk in and think this shop, you know, is a budget shop, and they didn't feel like spending money.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Indeed, yeah. Yeah. That's,


    Unknown Speaker 

    that's


    Unknown Speaker 

    retail psychology here. Exactly.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Is that I mean, anything else you'd like to add to all the various bookshelves? Nope. What about you? Okay. Short, big? Because, I mean, beyond shelves, you there's there's a table in the middle of the space. And a future couple of chairs. Yeah. Now, is that is that just combined to form a, some sort of workstation? I mean, what's going on there? Yeah. Because you need to sit somewhere, right. You're going to work in the shop. And yeah, that's basically your your desk and your desk. And yeah, maybe you can talk about the two chairs. And, and then I write the table. Yeah, yes, a couple of couple of


    Unknown Speaker 

    couple of random chairs which were


    Unknown Speaker 

    provided on a long term loan from my father's company.


    Unknown Speaker 

    They seem to have a collection of chairs. And as a few years ago, they moved offices, they move to smaller offices, it means that they had to reduce their collection of chairs, they can add too many chairs for the new smaller premises. So I asked if we could you borrow a couple for our space because I thought they probably fit in quite nicely.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So out the the chair collection, we have a better, hairy better tire moulded shell side chair. Which one is that? Oh, that's the yellow one. Yeah. Yeah. With the polished Chrome Frame finish. And that's apparently 1960 design. Yeah. Harry bertoia. And then the, the turquoise one


    Unknown Speaker 

    is a Phillip stock, Dr. globe model, or Dr. glubb, isn't he? Which one's the turquoise one? I don't even remember that. Look, now. Is it turquoise green, you know, with amazing colours, but that I just somebody says because blue. The yellow one is so yellow. That's the only one I remember. Okay, so there's a blue chair. I see. And what's nice green was turquoise. I don't know it's green. Let's say it's green. It's probably green. It's probably too green to be turquoise. My mistake. And, and what he likes is Dr. glob, sorry, what legs? Does the grill? Yeah, what legs they have? It's got


    Unknown Speaker 

    aluminium. Okay, so the rear legs are aluminium. But the front legs are plastic. Are they so is this from the 80s 90s this is Yeah. 1988. Okay, I said she remember when my father got that one? Yeah, it's dead. Exciting. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Anyway, so.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So, thank you. Thank you to thank you to them for the for the loan of the chairs. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Which of course, means that now one can sit down.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But I would like to just add those two chairs are mighty uncomfortable to sit on. Really? Yes.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Gosh,


    Unknown Speaker 

    right.


    Unknown Speaker 

    We're gonna need to pad them out with something. I don't know. Yeah. But they look nice. Yeah, they look very, very nice. Yeah. But that's the thing though. These designers you know, they make chairs and then this kind of like, I don't know, I think I think most tears are not designed to be sat on you. No, no.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So


    Unknown Speaker 

    the law I mean, the last thing I was gonna ask you about it.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The space so the thing that sort of crowns the whole space is is the hanging light in the centre, which is a is quite the showpiece. Where did you find that event? So that I found in a


    Unknown Speaker 

    little it's kind of like, Is it like


    Unknown Speaker 

    a flying open book? Yes. Sort of half bird half book. Yeah. It's like a metal sculpture. It's quite, quite airy and light and hung from two pieces of very thin steel cables. from the ceiling. Yeah. So it looks like you have a book opening up. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Where'd that come from? Just walking past a secondhand shop. In right, yeah, somewhere. I saw the thing before I knew we were going to have this bookshop, bookshop and I wanted yet light. And that light was very expensive. It's, I wrote it down somewhere. It's nearly 900 pounds. Right? So I thought, okay, that's out of the question that will be too extravagant.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But when we had, you know, have this project, then we then I thought, okay, so we need something interesting in the shop to make it instagrammable. I thought that's exactly what I thought, you know, this is the only thing I thought people might come in, even as they walk past us in the street. It might catch their attention. And do you think do you think they'll wonder if we got any of those things on sale?


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, I'm sure. Like, if I saw it, I would ask. Yeah, yeah. And I did ask about, you know, the dealer, the secondhand furniture dealer, and he told me that this is probably to his knowledge, a unique piece. That was designed by a Swedish designer. I don't have the name for some clients in the 60s. Right, right. Right. Right. So we need to do a bit of research. Yeah, that that was his sales. Research. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay. Well, we didn't talk about the table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, what's happening with the table, it's the proudest achievement I have. So it's a it's a circular round table. And


    Unknown Speaker 

    again, it's from Instagram, there is a French company called tip toe, they make the technical term I think, is called f clamp, table legs. So a clamp is something


    Unknown Speaker 

    that holds or holds or grabs something. So these table legs is like a letter F. And then you can actually fit the F opening


    Unknown Speaker 

    to any tabletop that you may have yourself and then you can screw it tight. So in basically like a workman would use f clamps to clamp anything, but these ones are actually nice looking. And


    Unknown Speaker 

    so basically, they are universal table legs.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So you can order for circular table again, we can save on the cost. We only need three legs for a circular table, whereas if it's a they just go to the legs individually. Yeah, well, or three in Yeah, I ordered the legs from from tiptoe.


    Unknown Speaker 

    They were posted from France. They are they're actually Alright, the price it's about 55 pounds each so on


    Unknown Speaker 

    and, and we save on the tax as well. So it's actually less than 55 to us.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And then the table top the round circular disk top is from the cheapest shop in the UK called Argos. And that's like 100 pounds for a 1.2 metre wide circular table top. But that came in a wooden colour, like a natural key light or oak colour. And I painted it with the surplus floor paint we have the grey colour and the rack as it matches the floor. So our table and the floor is the same colour but that's the designer that's the architects idea.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Right? Yeah, they you executed it or I executed it terribly. I think you would call it I think you got the clamps. You got the actual piece of wood. Yeah. And then you painted it. I couldn't I painted three coats and I couldn't get it to look very smooth. So what happened was, in the end, I took a sandpaper and I sanded down the surface. So the table already


    Unknown Speaker 

    He looks kind of worn out a little bit worn out. And tired. You may not I mean, we just did. Yeah. Once we put lots of books on it. Yeah, you You Won't you won't notice he won't notice.


    Unknown Speaker 

    All right. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. That Yeah, I think we've covered it all. Pretty much. Yeah. Right. So that's the design.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Essentially it. Yeah. And some some good brands and quite good value for money. brands that, yeah, if you guys are interested to buy these products, you can take a look. I recommend them. Sure. Are we going to include some links? or? Yeah, we're gonna put put some links. Yeah, I look at I want to also add, you know, with those kryptonite crossing shelves that's floating. So you those shelves are screwed into the wall. So they are,


    Unknown Speaker 

    you know, like 20 screws.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And if you're going to put books on them, those walls were strengthened, especially. So a builder have put a 20 Cm perhaps plywood against what their reward was there originally, and then painted the whole thing. So we have an extra wooden layer for the so the nails can have some. What would you call it a bite to catch? Oh, I see. Yeah, thing. I don't know. depth. It's depth. Yeah. So you can actually go in there and then take the weight.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We don't want any collapse in bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Nope, not at all. Yeah. most embarrassing.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The shop now it looks beautiful. Because it has no books and no customers. So it looks very clean.


    Unknown Speaker 

    No browsers. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, hopefully it won't. It won't continue to be like that. But at this rate, who knows? Given that we're, yeah, we're still very much in lockdown. Yeah. So have you have you have a word? An interesting English word for for this audience reading English word. Goodness gracious. Sure. Yeah, I have a word. So I was thinking as it's Chinese New Year, and you will all be receiving some money


    Unknown Speaker 

    with all my late look at you know, another word for money, perhaps something that could be considered slang, you know, not, not what we'd say Queen's English.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And the hundreds of the plenty of different terms for money, but one of them we thought would be interesting is quid.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Especially as in lungu. Qu ID to EU ID in London. You know, people be just to, you know, to say, rather than, say two pounds might say it's two quid, three quid or whatever. 500 quid, there's no, really? Yeah, until you get into probably lots of zeros. Or you might even say that, you know, still say a million quid. Yes. Interestingly, you might say a million quid. But if you're 10,000, you wouldn't say 10,000 quid you'd be saying 10 grand. So there's a bit where sort of, you know, you might say in the hundreds, you're still on quid, but then once you get to be on the 1000 you might be talking about grand. And then when you reach a million, you'd probably be back on a million quid. Okay, would you reckon? I mean, I don't know. I've never really heard anyone talk about 1000 you know, 100,000 quid, you're right. So when when we were in English class, we were told British money is pounds. And yeah, but when you come to England, nobody actually says this is three pounds. They would say three quid. Can you can you lend me five quid? So it's a good way to know.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And what Richard mentioned is


    Unknown Speaker 

    1000 quid is


    Unknown Speaker 

    a grant


    Unknown Speaker 

    right? So this time is one grand one grand, grand assuming 1000 Yeah, I think short 5000 is five grand. Yeah, so quit and grant the quit doesn't doesn't end in Chinese. Don't you talk about quiet. Yeah, we say quiet quiet. And creating brand that you don't put SS at the end. I know you don't say yeah, you don't talk say one quit two. Yeah. Two quids is just quit.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Well, yeah, yeah, whereas you might say one pound two pounds. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But interesting. I think it's also interesting if you visit North America, they don't understand quid, but they do understand grand. They say grand as well. Yeah, they'll say grand. Yeah. Yeah, but they won't. Yeah, quid. Yeah, no, don't say bucks. bucks. Oh, exactly quit his back. Yeah, yes, but the JC one buck two bucks. Yes. Yeah, I see. Yeah, they pluraleyes it. Yeah. But I don't know whether they say a tenner and a fiver. Oh, five quid into a fiver thing that Yeah. But do they talk in like, you know, whatever it is. Hamilton's and


    Unknown Speaker 

    the 100 Franklin Franklin. Benjamin, even Benjamin? Oh, no, you should tell us about that word. What is up in Latin? What do you mean what is it been Loudon? You know, like, Benjamin Franklin is on the $100. Bill. Yeah, that's 100. So people say one Franklin or one Benjamin? I don't know. Yeah. In Europe, you have 500 euro note? Cat. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't you tell me that's called a binladin? I did I yes. Like as terrorists etc. A mass 500 euro notes? Yes. Rather than $100. Rather than Benjamin's. They'd rather have 500 euro notes. You don't remember this? Yeah, I might have known this and then forgotten about it. Yeah. Well, anyway, so I think that that's really interesting. It's a 500 pound or sorry, 500. euro note is a binladin. Okay, right. Okay. I see what you mean. So you got 500 has been logged in $100. Benjamin? Yeah. And then otherwise, we got one quit to quit. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But just a tip. If you visit Europe don't bring any bin Laden's nobody accepts them.


    Unknown Speaker 

    It's Yeah, let's say you see any of them. Yeah, yeah, it's no it's in France. It's illegal now.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Really? Yeah. Wow. You don't remember last time I had up in London and I had to visit the Bank of France. Two weeks to break it up. Really? Oh, yeah. That rings a bell. Like Excuse me. I've got too many been lardons


    Unknown Speaker 

    Can you give me give me a few days something smaller. How about a couple of you know a few Benjamin's? Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Anyway, I'm not sure people say Benjamins. But. Well, thank you very much a joke about Benjamin's famous song. It's all about the Benjamins baby. Oh, I see. Okay, sorry. Yeah. Okay, that's true for you, as well. I mean, we, you know, we've gone off course from quid.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Alright. Okay. Let's call it tonight. Thank you, Richard. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you all. Let's talk next month. Okay. Ciao. Ciao.


    Unknown Speaker 

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  • 这期 Unpack 栏目我分享阅读奥地利/英国哲学家 Karl Popper 的 The Poverty of Historicism。这里是这期节目的预览部分,完整节目一共 45 分钟,只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com,购买赞助人计划后,在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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  • 本期节目益康糯米和方曌聊聊这周在社交媒体和美股圈发生的一场“散户大胜金融哥斯拉”的有趣事件,希望大家能多赚点钱!


    节目中提到的一些信息:


    /wallstreetbets 论坛

    http://reddit.com/wallstreetbets


    纽约时报对 GameStop 事件的技术小结

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/business/gamestop-stock-market.html


    或许是英文里最长的单词

    Anti-establishmentarianism

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2017/05/antiestablishme.html


    杨奎松:怎么会有人这样写历史?——评金一南《苦难辉煌》

    http://www.aisixiang.com/data/43890.html


    英剧「毒蛇」The Serpent

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27119312/


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  • 这期调戏栏目我们讨论在 London Hammersmith Lyric Theatre 编排的一套印度版本的「玩偶之家」A Doll's House。易卜生是19世纪晚期组重要的挪威剧作家,他 1879 年的话剧 Et dukkehjem/A Doll's house/玩偶之家上演之后,与其说是批判或呼吁社会改革,不如说把人们既定观念中的社会和家庭关系轰炸得体无完肤。


    英文版/中文版/印度版人物名称对照

    Nora/娜拉/Niru

    Torvald/托瓦德/Tom

    Dr. Rand/蓝克医生/Dr. Rank

    Kristine/克里斯蒂娜/Mrs Lahir

    Krogstad/克洛斯塔/Das


    节目中提到的作品信息

    话剧

    玩偶之家,Lyric Theatre

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xp4y1S7FJ


    Lyric 剧院版本的官方介绍

    https://lyric.co.uk/shows/a-dolls-house/


    演讲

    娜(nuo)拉出走后怎样,鲁迅

    https://www.marxists.org/chinese/reference-books/luxun/01/018.htm


    文化土豆之前的节目

    温夫人的扇子,王尔德

    http://dwz.date/dZg3


    非虚构

    易卜生书信演讲集,易卜生

    https://book.douban.com/subject/5348061/


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  • 这期误读会我们聊聊 John le Carré 的卡拉三部曲之二,「荣誉学生」The Honourable Schoolboy。这是一本发生在 1970 年代香港和东南亚的经典间谍小说。嘉宾是高高和张宇凌。


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    小说

    荣誉学生,约翰·勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3662544/


    卡拉/史迈利三部曲的另外两部小说是

    锅匠,裁缝,士兵,间谍

    https://book.douban.com/subject/10529972/

    史迈利的人马

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3662542/

    小说

    柏林谍影 The spy who came in from the cold,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26389907/


    小说

    夜班经理,The Night Manager, 勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30212811/


    小说

    女鼓手,The Little Drummer Girl,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30480992/


    小说

    Agent Running in the Field: A Novel,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/33125997/


    回忆录

    鸽子隧道,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30463116/


    英剧

    夜班经理,The Night Manager,BBC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3610655/


    英剧

    女鼓手,The Little Drummer Girl,AMC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27190054/


    电影

    柏林谍影,Richard Burton

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293190/


    电影

    锅匠,裁缝,士兵,间谍(2011),Gary Oldman

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3338851/


    英剧

    锅匠,裁缝,士兵,间谍(1979),Alex Guiness

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1438520/


    法剧

    传奇办公室 Le Bureau des Légends,Canal+

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26379912/


    法剧

    精忠报国 Au service de la France,Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26711470/


    中剧

    潜伏,姜伟

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3314870/


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  • 这期节目主播和Richard介绍我们是如何为一个面积很有限的小书店选书的。这期节目依然适用慢速、简单英文录制,下面是我们的录音稿文字,是通过 otter.ai 整理,希望对大家有所帮助。


    Yifan 

    Did you listen to the last episode, your first podcast? 


    Richard 

    Once I could bet to hear myself recorded?


    Yifan 

    How many times?


    Richard 

    Once? All right, did you show this to your parents? Nope. Your girlfriend? Nobody? I don't think, Oh, actually, no, my girlfriend sent the culture potato podcast link to one of her friends. Just to tell him about, oh, we're doing this bookshop and I'm doing you know, we're doing this bookshop together. And this is a guy who's like, an I was obsessed, well obsessed with all sorts of things. But when she knew him, when the window in the living together, he was obsessed with learning Mandarin. So she said, Oh, here's a podcast for you. It's Richard's friends podcast. And then she probably said the list and maybe further down he saw, you might have seen because you did two more episodes to three more episodes since. So he might have noticed that one. Okay, I don't know if he went there.


    Yifan 

    Okay, so this week, we want to talk about our book choices, you know, as a bookshop, how we choose books. But before we get into all that, can you talk about perhaps the most memorable book you read in 2020? Well,


    the book I've chosen for this is probably it will be crashed by Adam Tooze, which is a book about the financial crisis of 2008. And it actually came out in 2018, as a 10 year anniversary, but I finally read it during lockdown. He's a professor of financial history. So there's a lot of data, a lot of material, yet it reads like a thriller.


    So it's heading to a Netflix.


    Yeah, it could, it could head to Netflix. But I'm thinking it also, didn't you read? too big to fail? Yes, I did. When it came out, and maybe it's like that as well. Although, because then that isn't that supposed to be super readable and reads like a thriller and so forth? and Netflix material, potentially?


    Yeah. Is that that's even HBO material? I would say.


    Yeah. So yeah, that probably finally getting around to reading that, from one year from one economic crisis to a health crisis.


    And what is the conclusion? Has anything changed? In the 10 years? Since?


    I'm not sure, really, there's a bit of optimism, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


    Okay. But personally, in the last 10 years, you know, one of the big actors in the 2008 financial crisis is Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan. And over the last 10 odd years, I have seen a big transformation in his attitude and to a certain extent, reputation. He has embraced at least superficially. A lot of the new ideas that's that was fermenting in the business world. Yeah. The moving away from maximising shareholder value to to more of a socialist outlook, to the extent that it is possible that, you know, the care for society for employees. I don't know, does the book talk about this?


    Richard 

    No, no, no, no, not not really less of a thing.


    Yifan 

    So even if England is still in full lockdown mode, however, in the background, we are busying you know, compiling lists of books who are going to order and to to fill our shelves. So as the general manager, Richard, can you talk about how you are approaching this, how we are picking our books and how we are presenting it to them to our customers?


    Richard 

    Sure, looking at the fact that we're somewhat constricted by space, and we obviously can't stock every single book that's out there and buy every single genre, like you would in a big bookshop with obviously selecting what we like, but also books that people think are relevant, whether they're classic works of literature, or authoritative works of nonfiction. And some of these recommendations, we're also taking from what we've read in reviews or whether it's from people discussing books in science. on social media, or on podcasts, or even books that public figures recommend.


    Yifan 

    So in a way we are mimicking, or were thinking about how most general readers would come across a book, they might have read it in the newspaper or through word of mouth, or, you know, their favourite YouTubers talking about it. That's the that's the idea.


    Richard 

    Yeah. And maybe with a certain emphasis on various influences, who recommend books, whether again, the, their newspapers, or, you know, traditional book reviewers, like the London Review of Books, or the times literary supplement, to YouTubers who review books, or public figures, you publish lists of books, and so forth.


    Yifan 

     Cool. I imagine we might even organise our bookshelves according to these influencers who recommend the books. And I know that for this week's programme you have prepared, for example, book lists that you know, that's right, wait, we are working on? Can you briefly introduce the four book lists?


    Richard 

    So we got two lists by public figures, probably none of them need much introduction. One is Bill Gates, the formerly richest man in the world. The other one is Barack Obama, formerly the American president, who periodically published their lists of books that they've recently read, as it was the end of 2020. They both did a round up and published the list of books for Christmas. So those are those two lists, and then rather differently, we're going to talk about a radio programme start the week, which is a key radio programme or podcast from the BBC, that talks about books or that talks to people who have written books, and introduces the subject matter. And then one final list will be by a YouTuber, who presents and reviews, various works of fiction, which could be considered classics, 20th century classics or even, you know, even cult classic books.


    Yifan 

    What's the name of this YouTuber?


    Richard 

    So yeah, his name is so his YouTube channel is better than food. And he's a man named Clifford Lee Sargent. And he lives he seems to periodically move about America. I think the latest count us in Portland, Oregon.


    Yifan 

    Yeah, so let's dive into the these four very different and hopefully interesting book lists to give our audience that flavour. Let's start with Bill Gates, Bill Gates. I imagine he would. He's a tech guy. And he's, since he left Microsoft. He's running a globally powerful foundation. He's also at the centre of some of the of the most topical conspiracy theories around.


    Richard 

    Yeah,


    Yifan 

    it's it's no laughing matter. But what kind of books has Bill Gates chosen? In 2020?


    Richard 

    Yeah, sure. So he's got five books. They're all nonfiction, all on different topics. But one you could say is, is somewhat related to Black Lives Matter. It's called The New Jim Crow: Mass incarceration in the age of colorblindness by Michelle Alexander. Jim Crow being the the laws the racial segregation laws that used to apply in the American deep south. Another title is range why generalists triumph in a specialised world by David Epstein. Then we got the splendid and the vile, a saga of Churchill family and defiance during the Blitz by Eric Larson, the spy in the traitor, the greatest espionage story of the Cold War by Ben MacIntyre. And then finally, we have breath from salt, a deadly genetic disease, a new era in science and the patients and families who changed medicine by bcl two ready. So these are the five books. So one of them the splendid and the vile of saga of Churchill family and defiance during the Blitz by Eric Larsen, which is set up in 1940s 1942. When London and other cities in Britain were bombed by the German Air Force. I think he ties this into sort of how people experience the Blitz. In a kind of parallel way to how people are experiencing lockdown due to COVID. You know, as he says the the fear and the anxiety they felt, even if probably the Blitz was a lot more frightening than even COVID. Now we got the book about generalists range where generalists triumph in a specialised world, where he argues companies do better off employing people who have more breadth than people, then having too many people focused on a very narrow subject. For instance, I think Roger Federer seems to be the the author's a big example of how he started playing several sports before really becoming a big tennis star. Breath from Salt at a deadly genetic disease, a new era in science and the patients and families who changed medicine. Sorry, the subject matter of this book is a pet project of his in that it's about research into cystic fibrosis, which is something he's been involved in a message of hope, I suppose. Is there any would appeal to you?


    Yifan 

    Not really, no. Not at all, perhaps the Ben MacIntyre book on the spy and the traitor but in a way I would, I would just Google and Wikipedia, you know, the spies name, and read all about it. You know, but one interesting I would say is, I think Bill Gates is a massively respected figure in the tech world and beyond. And he's someone a nerd, turned humanitarian. And sometimes we imagine nerds or people in Silicon Valley to be reading about coding about big trends in the industry. And right, yeah, or about future, right, like about gurus books about the future. But I think really the best minds in tech, like the best minds in business, they really have a very wide range of appetites in, in their reading, and I think this list illustrates that quite well. Yeah. Especially if he's in the business of giving money out to, to solve the world's problems. He needs to understand the world's problems and the context in which they arise. And the underlying mechanisms or just to understand the world better and deeper. And I think this Yeah, I would say it's a it's a good list. Personally. It's not my interest for lockdown reading. Yeah. But but then let's move to a somewhat perhaps different it's a very different person, you know, by no means a nerd. So it's President Obama.


    What What has he been reading?


    Maybe first thing we should say about Obama is that he's now he's got his new book out, which is done very well. And he sees himself as very much a man of a man of letters, somebody who'd like you. He likes his books he's seriously into he's always been into reading a thoughtful person, perhaps a thoughtful person. Yeah. And he looked at his list, we won't go through the whole thing. There are many more titles than Bill Gates. 15, let's say, a mix of fiction and nonfiction. A lot of them I'd say, probably very, for an American president, very American centric, a lot to do the American experience whether it's fictionalised or, or not. So there's a Chinese American perspective story. There's, you know, South Asian American, there's obviously an afro American, that kind of drive. Otherwise, there are more say, more straight non fiction in to do again, with this one. It looks interesting cast, the origins of our discontents. But Isabel Wilkinson Wilkerson's right, where she contracts a sort of social and Rachel describes the social and racial system in America and includes it or uses the caste system in India, as well as Nazi Germany to describe Yeah, sociological and racial differences in America. There's even a debut on here. Fiction Again, I think it's a lustre by Raven leahlani, which I think is add some, some good reviews some high praise about a young Afro American woman in New York again in the midst of all that's going on at the moment, politically. Yeah, there's also a thing about Latino or Latin x Americans. And this is a work of nonfiction as somebody who's surveyed undocumented Americans, which is the title of the book, the undocumented Americans by capital up codenamed Villa a few cents you. Aside from that there's also a book about the twilight of democracy, the failure of politics and the parting of friends by Anna Applebaum.


    I have this book, Anne Applebaum.


    Maybe I miss wrote it. I don't know. We can double check that,


    because she's the famous author wrote about the gulags in Russia. Yeah. And she's like the only conservative columnist in the New York Times for a while I think. All right. I want to pick out something that you mentioned what people call in quotation mark the American experience. Yeah. You know, it's about, for example, they C Pam Zhang, how much of these hills is gold? I know that she's a, she's an immigrant. She's part of an immigrant family from Beijing. But this is a fiction. I think it goes back in history. It's about how a Chinese family during during the Gold Rush, right. That's right. And there are, as you say, that the undocumented Americans. So it's about searching for a better life dealing with the inequalities in America, and about pursuing the American dream, I suppose. Yeah. Considering Obama's political background, and racial background. I'm not criticising Bill Gates. Bill Gates, doesn't talk about maybe these issues are too controversial. I don't know.


    Richard 

    Yeah. What do you have the Michelle Alexander book, and I suppose what I mean, Obama, the other hand doesn't have much science or anything to, you know, in that in that kind of realm. He's also got this the splendid and the vile, the saga of church or family in defiance stream, the Blitz by Erik Larson. So Bill Gates and Obama cross over on that book. Yeah. What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah, there's one book which is set in Hawaii. Right. Yeah. which follows his book about his own upbringing there. And that is sharks in the time of saviours by kawhi and kawhi. Strong Washburn? interesting name. Yeah. kawhi. Sounds like my idea of somebody from Hawaii, but I don't know. Right?


    Yifan 

    Not Japan. Okay.


    Richard 

    Well, yeah, exactly. I'm not sure what else to add, it seems like, you know, a very sort of American presidents list, sort of. Except Now, having said that thinking if Trump Look, look, look nothing like this.


    Yifan 

    I think Trump is reading legal defence for Dummies. How to appeal this court. Anyway. Let's move on. You prepared another two lists that's coming from the podcast, YouTube. Universe, can you shall we start with start the week the you mentioned, it's a BBC programme. Can you talk about what kind of podcasts This is?


    Richard 

    Yes, so this is probably a key per gramme for books on the BBC. I mean, it's every Monday at 9am in the morning, after they've done the whole breakfast news kind of show, hence, it's called start the week. And it's used to be presented by Andrew Marr, and now he rotates with other presenters. He's a journalist himself, and he picks every week. A number of guests who talk about a subject matter or they talk about different subjects matters. And often, most of that, not always, but often they've written a book, which ties in to the subject under discussion. A lot of the time he has academics and journalists, so we're looking at more nonfiction. However, occasionally, he also has fiction writers. Probably the you know, the biggest names that you recently had down Hutch link and Margaret Atwood


    Yifan 

    giving us a weekly programme. So you know, their list is quite long. So even for 2020 we may have dozens of books can you pick out a few that that are quite representative of the kind of issues the programme is interested in? And yeah, I would just add that Andrew Marr made and honourable appearance on cultural potato in our episode talking about a Maoism that was a paid for programme unpacked Maoist Maoism, a global history in that episode, when Andrew Marr was a student, he was a committed communist fanatic. And he wrote during the Cultural Revolution to the Chinese Embassy in London requesting a free case of Mao's little red books to share with his fellow students. Anyway, so yeah, give us some notable books.


    Richard 

    Yeah, yeah, he, for instance, he had a book where they talked about sort of farming and what can we say country? Well, country nature? Yeah, really. And one of the books on there was a book called entangled life by Merlin Sheldrake, and this is about funghi. This band was just talking about the mushrooms, mushrooms, different mushrooms, and what they can teach us. Something else we've had, so maybe more in conjunction with black lives matter. He had the biography of a Haitian revolutionary of the 19th century. Black Spartacus, the life of Toussaint l'ouverture by Sudhir Hazara Singh, and in conversation with olivette hotelli, who's written a book called Africans, Europeans, an untold history. 


    Yifan 

    Interesting I see on the on the list, there's a title called China's good war by Rhino jmeter. What which war is this about? 


    Richard 

    Rana Mitter previously wrote about the second world war again in the Second World War.


    Yifan 

    Oh, I think I know. Yes, yes. This is about how the West often forgets about China


    Richard 

     Ok yeah that's it. China in the global order? That was


    Yifan 

    Yeah. So it seems that this and I see that there's a new translation of the Aeneid. It's in a way quite a European or British list that you know, it is a title called English pastoral that that's the farming book about mushroom. about these, you know, like gardening, artful farming. There's a book is it is there a book by Hitler? And even you know, classic study is like a very British thing as well. Yeah. So start the week strikes me as compared to the other two are definitely more UK. Not I wouldn't say UK centric. But definitely the taste is


    Richard 

    definitely more so than Barack Obama. Yeah, most definitely. You could say yeah, this is what sort of thinking people or you know, educated people in in Britain might be likely to read is a is going to be on here. Yeah,


    Yifan 

    let's go to the last list. This is a YouTuber you mentioned called better than food to the channel is


    Richard 

    the channel is better than food. And by as he says his host, Clifford, US hosts Clifford Lee Sargent. So this I came to having read, I'd been actually somebody had told me sort of a while back George Bataille story of the eye, which I don't know if you've read it.


    Yifan 

    No, I have not read any of his books


    Richard 

    It's very short. When it came out. It was probably a shocking story. shocking thing to write. I found it very intriguing. And I wanted to find out more. And somehow ended up on YouTube and came across this person talking about how he wanted to adapt it into the film, which I thought was completely crazy was bonkers. I don't think you're anywhere with that. But essentially, I found then found his channel. He at least talked about story of the eye and gave me his insights, which I thought were interesting. His premise is that, you know, in our lifetime, how many books is one going to read especially if you just stick to fiction and so He has this measure. Is the book better than food? Oh, I see. Right see one needs food to survive. Yeah. So, so the measure is is the book better than food? So at the end, he might say better than food? Or he might just say better than food? I don't think so. Some of the titles or merps may be more obscured so some of the titles or maybe famous famous either forgotten books or bit more forgotten or not necessarily known in the English speaking world because that's another thing he has for somebody, let's say is an English speaker is all these got a lot of a lot of books on that that are in that he's reading in translation in English. And that's unusual, because you know, the English speaking book world can be quite narrow minded. Always, always think about, you know, when they announced the Nobel Prize for Literature, usually nobody nobody in this country's heard of who who the winner is. Yes, and so I think a lot of these books are kind of you could say 20th century classics maybe some of them you could say a cult classics sort of book that not not necessarily like there's sort of liked by you know people in in the know as it were.


    Yifan 

    Can you give us some examples of these cult classics?


    Richard 

    But you even the George Bataille story I'd say is a good you know, is what is the story about? I think that's a that's another podcast entirely. Let's not go there. In a way you could say the story of the I two best thing to sum it up. I was thinking about it just now. You could say it's like a book form of a Salvador Dali painting. And even you know, you think of like, what's that film? He made? The slicing slicing eyeballs?


    un chien andalou


    Yeah, un chien andalou. Y eah, it ties into that whole kind of milleu. And. Bataille was first part of those surrealists


    Yifan 

    strange and disgusting 


    Richard 

    Yeah, strange and disgusting. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the things that probably the obvious ones would be things like jack Kerouac on the road. What's it? Blood meridian is Yeah, there's a few Mishima Confessions of a mask. Fight Club. Chuck Palahniuk, they'll probably be like, at least a you know, a recent cult book,


    Yifan 

    which one was that sorry?


    Richard 

    Fight Club Palahniuk, which was turned into that film in what in the late 90s. So a lot of these books as well, they link so he might see a lot more lashonda Moldova, which might? Again, you'd say that cult in the sense that a lot. That's a book that inspired a lot of people on the list, like, say, George Bataille. Yeah, like the most of the surrealists, but might not necessarily be known if you hadn't read these authors or knew much about the surrealist writers. And so he kind of goes up, he goes up the kind of what's it called? The sort of family tree of literature in a way.


    Yifan 

    And


    yeah, I'm just thinking about from, like, you know, when we have his collection in the bookshop, like, Who are they for? And could you say that his list is a pretentious list?


    Yeah, maybe you could say it's a bit pretentious. I think the pretention here is really to just, yeah, to try and read things that actually matter, or they're gonna leave an impression on you. Yeah. And again, they're also the colour aspect is important. Because also, you know, if you want to be part of, you know, of a club as it were of a colorist, and you know, know, what, certain people what books certain people have read, you know, this is a way of, yeah, getting in there. Yeah, I don't know how to sort of explain but meet perhaps the sort of people who are, there are tea because, you know, like, artists who is I like to reference, like, Great authors, or even more obscure authors like this, you know, there's a certain kind of cachet about like, referencing very, very obscure and niche artists of all sorts, whether they're writers or others.


    Yeah, and I would say, you know, this list is isn't arty list potential slash artists in a good way. In that these are authors who are trying who in you know, in their time, they were trying to do new things, and


    you're trying to experimental


    Yeah, they're not in one way or another. Right, a popular novel. I think none of these were We're written thinking, that's write a book to make money.


    Richard 

    Exactly. I mean, some of these writers remain pretty obscure.


    Yifan 

    So that concludes our four lists as examples of, of how we how we pick our books. And the very last item before the end of the programme is, you know, like Word of, is a good word of the month or just to introduce a fun English word to our listeners. Well,


    I just used five minutes ago, is the word bonkers, right? essentially means crazy. And it's spelt


    B o n k e r s.


    Richard 

    There we are. If something's bonkers. It's crazy. It boggles the mind. 


    Yifan 

    And is that the same as bananas? No. 


    Richard 

    That's true. Yeah. Bananas. It's completely bananas.


    Yeah. Yeah.


    Yifan 

    Okay. Two words. bountiful. And bananas. It's bananas. exactly the same as, as the bananas that you eat. I don't know. Why do people think bananas are crazy?


    Richard 

    They usually say going bananas, don't you?


    Yifan 

    Yeah. Why is that? I wonder? Maybe we should find out. Bananas are bonkers. Okay. All righty. That's another interesting word. All righty. All righty. This is the second programme talking about book lists in Hoxton books. Our bookshop is still not open yet. thanks for bearing with us.


    Thank you.


    Okay, Cheers.


    Bye.


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    Yifan 0:00

    Welcome to culture potato, a new hope this is a brand new, slow English speaking podcast where my friend Richard and I are going to talk about our brand new project a bookshop in London. Yay, Hi Richard!

    Richard 0:19

    Hello

    Yifan 0:20

    Could you introduce yourself to our listeners, and maybe say one interesting thing about our friendship.

    Richard 0:28

    So Hello, everyone. My name is Richard. I've been a friend of the fans for about 15 years. He described me as bookish because I grew up amongst lots of books. My father's in the book business. I've worked in bookshops, I've worked in publishing companies. I've even worked for my father. And I'm always always wanting to buy books and reading them. So that's roughly why I'm here.

    Yifan 1:05

    And I just want to add until very recently, because we have to work on this bookshop project. Richard had no internet at home.

    Yeah, that's right. Indeed.

    No Internet how hardcore?

    Richard?

    Richard 1:26

    Yeah, sceptical of all the inventions after the book. So if and what's the what's the latest? Or at least how, how is the bookshop looking? How are the how's the the site progressing towards completion?

    Yifan 1:43

    So, I have been in this project, our division of labour or what each of us do is I have been taking charge on the decoration, buildings work of the bookshop, while Richard is preparing on the content and what books to choose.

    So in the last month, I have been working with builders and interior designer on the site, our bookshop is tiny, it's about 25 or 30 at a push maybe 25 square metres somewhere in England, it's probably in square feet have no idea what what that is.

    We currently have strengthened all the walls to make it stronger because we have some hanging bookshops. So we have one bookshelf that's freestanding, and two shelves are hanging so screwed on to the war. So the war needs to be able to bear heavy weight strong. Yeah, yeah. The builders have put plaster on the war now so it's now painted white. But we are going to paint it give it another coat of paint. So we have been choosing paint colours over the last week. I forget what colour we have settled on.

    Richard 3:11

    I think it was called something like ash grey. And what was it?

    Yifan 3:15

    No that's for the floor.

    Richard 3:17

    No. As Gray 's for the wall and for the full floor was a good light

    Cree or something

    Yifan 3:24

    scree

    Richard 3:24

    scree.

    Yifan 3:25

    Okay, so we have a concrete looking floor and we have a bluish I think it's not is it gray to me Yes. blueish wall anyway. Yeah. yet to be done are lights, installing spotlights and a hanging pendant light in the middle. That looks like a book actually. You haven't seen them.

    Richard 3:51

    I've only seen photos. Okay, it was very nice. very tasteful.

    Yifan 3:56

    That's half of our budget

    Richard 3:57

    as as as is to be expected from you.

    Yifan 4:00

    And then I have ordered the checkout machine. So it's like an iPod iPad? No, it's like an iPhone thing where people can swipe their credit card or contactless card and I'm hoping to get alipay and WeChat pay a machine to do that as well because there are a lot of Chinese students in London who may benefit from that or we may benefit from that.

    Richard 4:24

    We may right.

    Yifan 4:27

    What else is to be done? I think the toilet Yeah, we have a small toilet and the toilet needs to be

    Richard 4:34

    very important. Especially with Coronavirus with water. There are no public glues, no public toilets,

    Yifan 4:42

    but maybe we shouldn't say that we have a toilet. It's not a public toilet.

    Richard 4:46

    There's no McDonald's but otherwise we can't.

    Yifan 4:48

    When people ask we have no toilet.

    Richard 4:50

    People ask us, we have no toilets, but we definitely need

    Yifan 4:53

    your listener for culture potato Okay, so this Is our shop our shop is in an in an area called Hoxton. That's h o x to n. Hoxton. That's in East London. So Richard, why don't you you are a West Londoner, tell us about an East London and Hoxton.

    Richard 5:15

    Yeah, I was actually born not very far from the shot but by the time I was four years old, my parents moved west. But yeah, it was the West London is where, you know, typically is thought of more affluent than the east and so forth. So East London, Hoxton, traditionally a working class part of London. Nowadays, like with all these, like a lot of former working class areas in major European cities, they're undergoing a lot of change a lot of what people call gentrification and Hoxton is not immune to that. It's also one thing. It's

    Yifan 5:59

    a pioneer of

    Richard 6:01

    Yeah, could even be considered a pioneer. Definitely. And yeah, probably in London, it would be a pioneer. Of course, in the 90s, late 90s, when Britpop was all the rage, the famous clip, the video clip of the Verves, unfinished sin, no, not unfinished with any, a bittersweet Symphony. Sorry, a bittersweet Symphony by the verb. Were you land that's a band, right? And this singer is walking down Hoxton Street, barging into people. But at least he's not making way for anybody else. He's just walking down in the straight line. Anyway, that's that's a link to that video, I'll post a link I definitely will post a link to the video. And that is Hoxton. And that street probably not changed that much. So just a few more hipster new places. hipster new I don't know. Yeah, they hit the places I don't know. Definitely weren't there when the video was shot. But otherwise, it probably retains a similar feel.

    Yifan 7:09

    There's a very famous British person laying rest nearby our bookshop. Our address is 99 East road about five minutes walk up, say 10 minutes walk at most. We have

    Richard 7:23

    we have the bunhill is it bunhill Cemetery. Yes. Or bunhill fields where William Blake is buried. And is that Daniel Defoe as well?

    Yifan 7:38

    of Treasure Island.

    Richard 7:40

    No he's of Robinson Robinson Crusoe. Yes. Different Island. Yeah. Yeah, and I feel like there's somebody else we're missing out. Anyway, Daniel Defoe, and obviously William Blake will do for for a bookshop.

    Yifan 7:57

    That's where we will be having our sandwiches during lunch

    Richard 8:00

    break. Exactly. That's where we'll be. lunch breaks. Look forward to look forward to at one point so at one point, we you thought of calling or referring to it as the podcast bookshop, can you elucidate

    Yifan 8:20

    it is the date that was my idea. And nobody understood the idea. It was a much misunderstood idea. I might still launch a campaign to to make it our tagline, the podcast bookshop,

    Richard 8:35

    Hoxton books, the podcast bookshop,

    Yifan 8:37

    okay, because I think there is a idea that people who love the internet and social media who stay on Weibo WeChat all the time they don't read books. And books is for bookish people who are you know, who have no internet had home here?

    Richard 8:54

    no internet, no to sceptical of everything that was invented after the book.

    Yifan 8:59

    Yeah. And that concept is very strange to me. Because I have in obviously been the next journalist or somewhat, probably still working in the field that's related to journalism. I love books and social media, because our job is essentially transferring knowledge from books to social media. And in in Chinese, we call this brick carrying, right so a lot of marketing people and journalists writers, their job is essentially book carry a brick carrying, carrying but either from the English speaking world to the Chinese world, or from the book to more popular fields. Yeah. And also, I think podcast is a medium where you really engage with the content like you do with a book. You spend hours on it.

    Richard 9:53

    That's it. It's sort of like an individual.

    Yifan 9:55

    Yes. Yeah. Very private.

    Richard 9:58

    Yeah, private thing. Exactly.

    Yifan 10:00

    And so I think they, they go together. And I take book recommendations from a lot of podcasters. So I thought, you know, why don't we use this as an angle for our book, bookshop? And because you need a unique selling point nowadays? Well, yeah.

    Richard 10:18

    What's the last book you? You read for, or at least the last book you opened that was recommended to you by, by podcast?

    Yifan 10:28

    Um, can I talk about the next one? So the next. The next one is, it's a very, it's a cookbook by Ottolenghi and his collaborator, one of his collaborators

    Richard 10:40

    here. Is is his husband, the Palestinian? Yeah. Was he called cesifo? Sami?

    Yifan 10:47

    No. So it's someone else. Maybe someone I need to meet me, but it's like it's it's about vegetarian cooking and vegetables. Okay. And I heard it on kcrw the goodfood. Bought it yesterday. And I thought, well, Okay, very good. That so that was the next one. previous one. The thing is, since I started the book club project for cultural potatoes, and my nonfiction project, unpack. I have no time to read other. I have no,

    Richard 11:20

    so a lot of projects you've got going on.

    Yifan 11:23

    No, it's just with this A New Hope it's just four because they are financing the bookshop? Yeah, so each each week I do a different thing. That is to say so my podcast listening has decreased the time I spent on podcast. Sure, we have opportunities to recommend other podcasts plenty. The next question I want to ask you is obviously you know, London's bookshops the best So looking at our competitors are not necessarily competitors. tell our listeners or three independent bookshops that you love.

    Richard 12:03

    Okay, so first of all, we're selling starting we'll start with Daunt's that's the most obvious one because they're almost like I mean, they are independent but they're like a mini chain as well because they got quite a few they were four or five bookshops in London, mostly in the West and the North. The the the flagship shop in Marylebone is essentially based on well essentially grew out of a travel bookshop and they still categorise their books by country

    Yifan 12:38

    like a Lonely Planet? travel books or travel literature.

    Richard 12:42

    Well travel literature, so they've Yeah, they do in the sense that under each country, you find guides, like you know, Lonely Planet, etc, you'll have books about the history of that place, and writers from there or when he's in translation, but the major writers from that place, so in a way you'd have History Fiction, and guidebooks or all mixed together by country, if that makes sense.

    Yifan 13:18

    I love Daunt's, but somehow they are the least, they are almost the opposite to the way I would imagine our shop. I don't know why.

    Richard 13:28

    Yes, we're definitely probably wouldn't be doing much by country. I don't know. Unless...,

    Yifan 13:35

    but also they have a very English cottage.

    Richard 13:39

    Yeah, there's something quite Yeah, there's something quite traditional or exactly quite cottagey very English. Maybe what we could say a bit. how likely are you?

    Yifan 13:49

    I like how you said your English your French accent surfaced. Richard is half French

    Richard 14:01

    I'm half French? But um yeah, it feels quite quite

    Yifan 14:07

    safe maybe twee is the

    Richard 14:10

    yeah tweet by twee at an effort Yeah, how how accurate what it's great though it's great if obviously like you know people who come from abroad love going then it's because it's it's very I don't know if pittoresque is the word but

    probably have the most visible tote bag

    Oh, yeah. They've got the they got the whole they got the pioneers they send throughout the world with their tote bags. Yeah. Referencing themselves. Yeah. They you know, people buy the travel books that they get the tote bag, they travel elsewhere. bag.

    Yifan 14:50

    So it's a long standing tradition.

    Richard 14:53

    Exactly. Yeah. Must be.

    Yifan 14:57

    Okay, number two, choice number two

    Richard 14:59

    Probably a bookshop that's not very far from where, from where Hoxton books is, and that's the Broadway bookshop on Broadway market. And that said, I mean, that's a, you know, relatively small shop. But with the space they have, they do very well with filling it with books, or at least books that I would love to read. And there's not much you know, when we talk about separating the wheat from the chaff. I'd say there's not, there isn't much chaff in that bookshop. Um,

    Yifan 15:39

    why is this so many agricultural metaphors in English and separating the sheep from The what?

    Richard 15:49

    The wheat from the chaff?

    Yifan 15:50

    Yeah, but also people say,

    Richard 15:52

    separating sheep and white sheep and black sheep.

    Yifan 15:55

    No man from the sheep. I don't know. Yes, yes.

    Richard 15:59

    Yes. Lamb dressed as mutton.

    Yifan 16:02

    Is that all yours? No, never mind Skinner. Forward, but I would recommend, you know, like, visitors to London to check out Broadway market. It's probably not in any guidebook. And yet, it's probably the most London in a way. I don't know, young London, hipster.

    Richard 16:23

    Young London is very young. Do you want to see

    Yifan 16:26

    how young people in London live

    Richard 16:30

    and get a Broadway market? In a idealised? Yeah.

    Yifan 16:34

    I mean, it's true. There's a lot of self love is definitely a lot of self love.

    Richard 16:40

    Yeah, there's Yeah, they Yeah. Yeah. They're very pleased with themselves. Yes. But definitely the bookshop is great. And the bookshop has been there a while. Yeah, I really don't have a bad word to say about them. Another bookshop I find interesting is in Chelsea, in West London, you know, very affluent area. And that's Sandoe's. Then, like, the ceilings are so low, there's maybe two floors. Yeah, there's two floors, low ceilings, books stacked everywhere. except they're all new books. So you could you know, you imagine that kind of bookshop, imagine selling secondhand books, where they've just have all these secondhand books, and I don't know where to put them. Here. It's all new books. They're all stacked everywhere. Lots of art books. You know, big, big expensive art books that people in Chelsea will buy coffee table books, coffee table books. Yeah, but not too not too frivolous coffee table books like serious coffee table books, okay. And and then they like to you they stack so on their tables, they like stacking books by author. So for instance, you might have like, you might have Philip Roth and all his books are on top of each other on a table. Okay. So different titles they mix them up. So you'd like you unwind the pie or to find the entire oevre the particular writer.

    Yifan 18:14

    So how is Broadway because you mentioned don'ts in their flagship travel shop. Things are organised by country right like the geography department. And then in in Sandoe's, Sanders is is called Sandel's or Sandoe's. Sandoe.

    Richard 18:32

    the with an apostrophe s at the end. Sandoe's?

    Yifan 18:36

    Yeah, they are organised by author.

    Richard 18:40

    Yes. And then but they have a more traditional way of running things by sort of, you know, fiction, and fiction A to Zed, but then when you look on the tables, they'll have like, it's a bit like I'm not saying it's messy. But they can also like, yeah, you might find fit on the shelf and Philip Roth, it might be one or two books, but then if you look on the table, there might be more there. So it's a bit random says maybe a bit random.

    Yifan 19:07

    Yeah, and what about in Broadway, but books,

    Richard 19:10

    Broadway bookshop is oh? Yeah, no, they also like the country thing, where if you look under France, you have find books about France, as well as books by French writers. Yeah, which is how it should have described don't earlier, and how are you going to organise boxing our bookshop?

    So how we're going to organise them? Well, either by service, all sorts of I think there are sorts of all sorts of ways and they might intersect in different ways. So we might have a shelf with books recommended by certain people. Books might also figure in

    so we're talking about Obama's reading list.

    Yeah, so we could talk about Obama's reading list. But that Like, you know, there might be one or two things there that double up with, say, a shelf full of books by people who write for The New Yorker. Yeah. As well as maybe we'd have books on certain topics there might intersect with the book kinda know to do with to do with black lives matter for instance. Okay.

    Yifan 20:20

    No podcast. Sorry. No.

    Richard 20:24

    Yeah, of course. Yeah. podcast. podcasts are your thing the podcasts?

    Yifan 20:29

    Right, so

    Richard 20:30

    yeah, definitely like yeah, for instance. I mean, it start the week is the the obvious one when it comes to at least nonfiction books.

    Yifan 20:38

    Yeah, that's a popular UK BBC Radio Show. That's also a podcast. Yeah. Anyway, right. Okay.

    Richard 20:47

    You've stopped me there.

    Yifan 20:48

    But one night, we might talk about you know, this more in detail in in a future episodes. Yes, exactly. That's

    Richard 20:55

    Yeah, exactly. How are we going to how we're going to categorise and now we're going to shelve everything is by almost recommendations, different products from different places. Yeah, exactly. recommendations, but yeah, from different sources. See how that pans out? How see how how we manage that?

    Yifan 21:17

    Yeah. Okay, more More on that in a future episode. And also, I think our listeners, this is going to be a simple English slow English, a shorter programme that we're hoping to. So in future episodes of A New Hope. One week we might talk about our bookshelves and other week we might talk about our book lists, whatever you want to hear about our Hoxton books, bookshop, let us know and then we'll try to talk about it. And lastly, for today, can you that is Richard recommend a podcast and perhaps in English podcast you like?

    Richard 22:01

    Okay, so thinking about this I'm going to go for a podcast which is completely just different. In fact, maybe a lot of people who are into books or read books are not necessarily interested in, ie football so this is a podcast about English football where these various supporters mostly younger I mean, youngest guys you support different team gather around the television watching a premier league game, but they end up just talking about football so they don't they comment on the game a bit. So last Sunday, it was the North London Derby between Arsenal and Tottenham, but most of the time they're just Yeah, they're just talking to each other about various things going on in in with football, and it lasts for about three hours or something. You can think you can even catch him on Twitch live but then they also release a podcast

    Yifan 23:07

    that's a highly technical term coming from someone who is not very technical twitch

    Richard 23:11

    twitch yeah twitch I'm yeah, I'm with I'm with the twitch kids, except that to them. My understanding is twitches, just people playing video games. In this case, they're watching football, and they're just reacting to what's going on. Either during the match or, or more widely. And they're the fun bunch. They're their ragtag collection. So different supporters. So there's one guy you know, who support Liverpool and other guys supports Chelsea, then they have a guest on depending on the one of the teams that's playing. And yeah, they they joke around and, and they kind of like kind of people I don't hear about my life. I don't really know many people who support football, even though I live in England. So it's just it's just refreshing. Basically. Okay, so you're up to date with what's going on in world of football.

    Yifan 24:07

    Okay, and very Lastly, Richard before we say goodbye, this month. The new word A New Hope. Okay, this is our finishing segment. tell our listeners a fun English word that they may not know.

    Richard 24:28

    Okay, sure. So we have a word, which is probably the informal to mean food.

    Yifan 24:35

    Like,

    do you want food?

    Richard 24:37

    Like I'm starving? Let's have some grub. grub grub said that spelled GRUB grub? Not sure what the origin is but definitely loads a lot at least London term understood by all have some grasp, but it's also at the If you combine it with the word street grub Street, the grub street refers to aspiring writers, poets trying to make a living in the 19th century. And grub Street was a street not very far from our bookshop, in fact, also close to where William Blake and Daniel differ we mentioned we're buried. So this street no longer exists, but it was around there. And it was just a sort of bohemian place where where writers poets, aspiring journalists

    Yifan 25:44

    lived or so some general term you can say grubstreet to refer to them collectively Yeah, like to

    Richard 25:51

    Yeah, that is a column I think in pro in the satirical magazine Private Eye This is a comment column about sort of the world of journalists and basic facts Yeah. And the the column is called grubstreet. That's too many words hacks.

    Yifan 26:07

    Okay. Let's Let's hit stop and have some takeaway grub, does it even work?


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