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  • What does it take to build a company from the ground up and lead it to success for 16 years? For Vineet Jain, CEO and Co-founder of Egnyte, the answer is a relentless focus on product excellence and customer satisfaction. In a recent episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Vineet shared how these principles helped him grow Egnyte into a leading cloud-based content collaboration and governance platform, serving over 23,000 customers.

    Key Insights from Vineet Jain:Product First, Always Vineet credits Egnyte’s success to being a product-centric company. By developing a solution that offers a seamless, turnkey experience for mid-market companies, Egnyte solves the critical challenges of content security and collaboration without complicating user workflows.
    “Our superpower is the product,” Vineet said. “It’s easy to manage, saves time, and reduces costs, which is exactly what mid-market customers need.”Customer Satisfaction Over Revenue From day one, Vineet instilled a culture that prioritizes customer happiness over quick revenue gains. He believes that happy customers are the foundation of long-term success, and he’s made Net Promoter Scores (NPS) a key metric for success at Egnyte. “A happy customer is more important to me than revenue targets,” he explained. “Without happy customers, the rest won’t matter.”Selling with Integrity Jain’s approach to sales is simple: don’t oversell, and don’t treat customers like a quick win. His sales strategy focuses on building trust and long-term relationships, ensuring that customers feel valued well beyond the initial sale. “Integrity matters in sales. It’s not about short-term wins but about building relationships that last,” Vineet shared.The Power of Inside Sales

    Early on, Jain recognized that the best way to scale Egnyte was by building an inside sales team focused on mid-market customers. This strategy allowed them to efficiently acquire customers while maintaining a personalized approach.

    “Our inside sales model gave us the ability to scale while keeping acquisition costs low and sales cycles short,” said Vineet.

    Action Steps for CEOs:Prioritize Product Excellence: Build a solution that truly solves customer problems.Focus on Customer Success: Make customer satisfaction your number one metric.Maintain Integrity in Sales: Build long-term trust with your customers.Leverage Inside Sales: For mid-market companies, inside sales can be more efficient and cost-effective.

    Vineet Jain’s journey with Egnyte highlights the importance of focusing on what truly matters: a great product, happy customers, and long-term success. For more insights, listen to the full episode below.

    Chapters

    01:11 - What Ignite Does - Vineet explains that Ignite provides a cloud-based content collaboration and security platform, targeting mid-market companies.

    02:33 - Solving Mid-Market Challenges - Discussion on how Ignite offers a turnkey solution for content management and security, addressing the unique needs of mid-market companies.

    04:53 - The Genesis of Ignite - Vineet shares the origins of Ignite, including the transition from their previous company and the early development of the product.

    06:57 - The Early Days of Cloud Computing - Insight into how Ignite started as an "on-demand file server" and evolved as the concept of cloud computing emerged.

    07:37 - Product-Centric Culture - Vineet discusses Ignite’s strong focus on building a robust product before going to market, a practice rooted in their engineering background.

    08:52 - Early Customer Acquisition - The strategy behind Ignite’s initial customer acquisition, relying heavily on search engine marketing and the importance of product-market fit.

    11:20 - Identifying Target Industries - How Ignite organically identified its primary industries—AEC, financial services, life sciences, and media—and adapted the product to serve them better.

    14:05 - Scaling Sales with Inside Sales - The decision to build an inside sales team early on, focusing on mid-market clients to optimize sales efficiency.

    15:19 - Inside Sales Strategy - A closer look at how Ignite’s inside sales team is structured, including geographic territories and industry-specific reps.

    17:40 - Combining Direct and Channel Sales - Vineet explains the importance of blending direct and channel sales to drive growth, with a significant investment in channel partnerships.

    20:43 - The Role of Channel Partners - The shift in channel partner dynamics, particularly from a perpetual license model to a subscription-based model.

    22:53 - Vineet’s Role in Sales as CEO - As CEO, Vineet focuses on relationship management and strategic involvement in key customer interactions, particularly with larger accounts.

    About Guest

    Vineet Jain is the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) and co-founder of Egnyte, a leading cloud-based collaboration and governance platform. An entrepreneur at heart, prior to Egnyte, Vineet founded Valdero, a supply chain solution provider that received funding from leading investors like KPCB, MDV, etc. Under Vineet’s leadership, Egnyte has grown exponentially, serving more than 22,000 customers globally and having 1,000+ employees worldwide.

    Vineet started his career at Boots Plc in the United Kingdom and has also worked in various senior-level positions at Bechtel Corporation and KPMG in Silicon Valley. He holds a bachelor’s of science in engineering from Delhi College of Engineering and a master’s in business administration (MBA) from Santa Clara University. 

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    Connect with Vineet on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vineetkjain/

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    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • Accurate sales forecasting is critical for sustainable growth, with companies that effectively forecast being 10% more likely to increase their revenue year-over-year. Yet, many CEOs struggle with this crucial aspect of their business. If accurate forecasting remains a challenge, it may be time to examine the health of the sales funnel.

    In a recent episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Alice sat down with Hamish Knox, a renowned sales consultant and Sandler trainer, to explore why understanding and properly managing the sales funnel is vital for any CEO. Hamish, known for his expertise in creating scalable, repeatable sales engines, shared insights on how CEOs can optimize their funnels to drive growth.

    Key Insights:Funnel vs. Pipeline: Hamish emphasizes the importance of viewing the sales process as a funnel rather than a pipeline. This approach provides a clearer picture of potential bottlenecks and ensures a healthy flow of opportunities.Ideal Client Profile (ICP): A funnel filled with prospects who don’t match your ICP can drain resources and lower win rates. Ensuring alignment on ICP across your sales and marketing teams is essential.Qualifying Leads: Jumping to demos too early can lead to wasted effort. Sales teams should focus on gathering information to ensure leads are genuinely qualified before moving them through the funnel.Maintaining Funnel Health: A bloated funnel, with too many opportunities stuck in the middle, can signal inefficiencies. Regular reviews and a focus on mutual next steps help keep the funnel flowing smoothly.Understanding the Sales Funnel vs. Pipeline

    Hamish Knox advocates for the funnel over the pipeline analogy in managing sales processes. While pipelines suggest a linear progression of leads, a funnel better captures the filtering process necessary to identify the most promising opportunities. As discussed previously, the buyer’s journey can also be visualized as a bow tie, extending beyond the initial purchase.

    "A glance at the funnel can tell you what’s gone wrong, what’s happening, and whether the funnel is healthy," says Hamish. This visualization helps CEOs and sales leaders quickly identify issues, such as a funnel clogged with unqualified leads or one that’s too narrow at the top, signaling insufficient lead generation.

    Filling the Funnel with Quality Leads

    The foundation of a healthy funnel is a steady flow of ideal customer profile (ICP) leads. Hamish notes that one of the biggest challenges companies face is ensuring that only high-quality leads enter the funnel. "Anybody and everybody is not an ICP," he stresses, underscoring the need for strict adherence to the ICP criteria.

    Misalignment between sales and marketing can often lead to a funnel filled with less-than-ideal prospects. CEOs should ensure that both teams are synchronized in their understanding of the ICP and work together to attract and nurture these high-value leads.

    Qualifying Leads: The Right Way

    Properly qualifying leads is crucial for maintaining funnel efficiency. Jumping straight to demos without understanding the lead's needs can result in missed opportunities or wasted resources. "Sellers get paid on the information gathered, not the information given," Hamish reminds us. Effective qualification means thoroughly understanding the lead's requirements before moving them forward.

    This disciplined approach prevents the funnel from becoming bloated with unqualified opportunities, which can distort forecasting and lead to frustration within the sales team.

    Avoiding the Bloated Funnel

    A common issue in many sales organizations is the "bloated funnel"—a situation where too many opportunities get stuck in the middle stages of the funnel. Hamish advises that if there isn’t a mutually agreed-upon next step within 45 calendar days, the opportunity should be re-evaluated or even discarded. "This helps maintain a healthy funnel and ensures that salespeople focus on genuine opportunities," says Hamish.

    Regular funnel reviews, focused on next actions and mutual agreements, are key to keeping the funnel flowing and ensuring that opportunities are progressing as they should.

    Action Steps for CEOs:Audit Your Funnel: Regularly review your sales funnel to ensure it’s filled with ICP-aligned leads and has a healthy flow from top to bottom.Align Sales and Marketing: Ensure that your sales and marketing teams are working from the same playbook when it comes to defining and targeting the ICP.Enforce Qualification Rigor: Train your sales leaders to enforce strict qualification criteria to prevent unqualified leads from clogging the funnel.Implement Regular Funnel Reviews: Establish a routine for funnel reviews, focusing on opportunities that are stuck and need attention.Leverage Data for Forecasting: Use insights from your funnel reviews to improve your sales forecasting accuracy, which in turn will drive sustainable growth.

    By understanding and optimizing the sales funnel, CEOs can significantly improve their ability to forecast accurately, leading to more predictable and sustainable business growth.

    Ready to transform your sales forecasting? Tune in to the latest episode of Sales Talk for CEOs with Hamish Knox for expert insights on optimizing your sales funnel and driving sustainable growth. Hamish’s expertise in sales leadership and funnel management provides valuable insights for any CEO looking to improve their sales process.

    Episode DetailsChapters

    00:00 Introduction - Welcome to the sales focus and the essence of sustainable growth.

    01:45 Hamish Knox Introduction - Alice introduces sales consultant and Full Funnel Freedom podcast host Hamish Knox.

    02:16 Hamish's Expertise - A brief on what Hamish offers CEOs for sustainable sales growth.

    03:48 Sandler Method and Sales Methodologies - Discussing the Sandler sales technique and the importance of sticking with a single methodology.

    06:21 Ideal Client Profile - Emphasizing the necessity for a clear ICP and its significance in forecasting.

    08:07 Proactive Prospecting Activities - How proper check-ins and prospective activities can maintain funnel health.

    10:57 Ensuring Top Funnel Quality - Strategies for filling the top of the funnel with quality leads.

    13:26 Using Events for Lead Generation - Leveraging trade shows and events to garner ideal customer leads.

    17:28 Networking Events Strategy - Tips for salespeople to maximize their impact at networking events.

    20:17 Email and Cold Outreach - Discussing effective outbound campaigns and contact marketing techniques for today.

    22:42 Leveraging Referrals - Utilizing customer referrals as an overlooked yet potent top-of-funnel resource.

    27:41 Now Open the Opportunity - Turning qualified leads into concrete opportunities.

    30:21 Keeping the Funnel Moving - Avoiding funnel congestion and enforcing next steps for ongoing sales momentum.

    33:23 The Funnel Shape Diagnostic - Recognizing and addressing problematic funnel shapes for accurate forecasting.

    37:20 Final Takeaways and Farewell - Closing thoughts and how to find more from Hamish Knox.

    About Guest

    President of Sandler in Calgary

    A member of the global Sandler network, Hamish supports private organizations in Southern Alberta to create and maintain a scalable, repeatable, consistent sales engines and an engaged, motivated team by holding them accountable to implementing the structures, systems and processes shared in our sessions.

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    https://twitter.com/sandlerinyyc

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/sandlerincalgary/

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    https://www.facebook.com/sandlerincalgary/

    Connect with Hamish on LinkedIn: (11) Hamish Knox | LinkedIn

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

    Podcast:

    Listen to Alice's appearance on the Full Funnel Freedom Podcast: When to Call in the CEO (fullfunnelfreedom.com)

    Books:

    Accountability - https://www.hamish.sandler.com/resources/sandler-books/accountability

    Change - https://www.hamish.sandler.com/resources/sandler-books/change

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  • One question is on the minds of many CEOs: What exactly should sales leaders be doing to ensure their teams are performing at their peak? The answer, while multifaceted, revolves around a critical shift in focus—prioritizing customer experience and empowering sales teams to excel.

    Shifting Focus: From Internal Metrics to Customer Experience

    Traditionally, sales leadership has often been about hitting targets, managing internal metrics, and ensuring the sales funnel is full. However, the modern approach demands a pivot. The primary role of sales leaders today is to ensure that salespeople are equipped to provide an exceptional customer experience. This customer-centric focus is not just about closing deals; it’s about making it easier to be your customer and harder to be your competitor.

    “Sales leaders need to ask every day, what are we doing to make it easier to be our customer? That means we're providing a great customer experience from hello to 'I'm your loyal customer,'” says Alice Heiman.

    Empowering Sales Teams: The Role of Leadership

    Sales leaders are the backbone of the sales team. They are not only responsible for managing their teams but also for inspiring, coaching, and developing them. The challenge lies in balancing the day-to-day management tasks with the need to spend quality time coaching and strategizing with their sellers. The reality is that sales leaders should be spending 80% of their time coaching salespeople to close business effectively.

    This involves a variety of activities:

    Strategic Account Management: Sales leaders must be deeply involved in developing account strategies, ensuring the right resources are allocated, and that senior leadership is engaged when needed.Continuous Development: Sales leaders must assess the strengths and weaknesses of their team members and create development plans that include ongoing learning. This could involve reading industry-specific literature, attending webinars, or even engaging in peer learning.Effective Deal Coaching: With many deals stalling or ending in no decision, sales leaders need to provide thorough deal coaching, helping salespeople map out strategies, understand customer pain points, and navigate the complexities of the sales process.Managing the Managers: Who Coaches the Sales Leaders?

    One of the critical, yet often overlooked, aspects of a sales leader's role is their own development. Who is coaching the coaches? CEOs must ensure that their sales leaders are receiving the guidance and development they need to continue growing. This could mean bringing in external coaches, providing access to leadership training, or fostering a culture of continuous learning within the organization.

    Final Thoughts: A Call to Action for CEOs

    If you’re a CEO wondering whether your sales leaders are equipped to lead a peak-performing team, it might be time to reassess. Shadow your sales leaders, understand their daily activities, and ensure that they are not bogged down by non-essential tasks that detract from their ability to coach and lead their teams. By focusing on the development of your sales leaders, you’re not only improving their performance but also driving the overall success of your sales team and, ultimately, your company.

    If you want to discuss improving sales leadership in your organization, feel free to reach out. I’m always happy to chat and offer insights tailored to your needs.

    “The job of a sales leader, all of them, no matter what their title, is to ensure that salespeople can do their job and that customers have a great experience.”

    Episode DetailsChapters

    00:02 Introduction and Setting the Scene

    01:43 Role of Sales Leaders and Customer Experience

    05:18 Communicating Needs to Leadership and Building Foundations

    08:02 Daily Activities of Sales Managers

    11:03 Strategic Planning and Senior Leadership Involvement

    13:50 Ongoing Development and Deal Coaching

    15:18 Pipeline Management and Effective Reviews

    18:02 Development and Coaching for Sales Leaders

    20:18 Conclusion and Call to Action

    Social Links

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • How can CEOs consistently hire top-tier sales talent? Kristie Jones, a sales leadership expert with over 20 years of experience, shares her strategies for attracting, hiring, and onboarding the best sales professionals in the latest episode of Sales Talk for CEOs. Kristie dives into the hiring process, the importance of structured onboarding, and ensuring long-term success for your sales team.

    Creating an Ideal Candidate Profile

    Kristie emphasizes creating an ideal candidate profile over a generic job description. “We need to start by building out an ideal candidate profile, just like we would build out an ideal customer profile,” Kristie explains. This involves analyzing the traits of past successful hires and defining the necessary skills and experience.

    Your Blueprint to Hiring Effectively:

    Kristie shares her approach to sourcing and screening candidates, ensuring a smooth and efficient hiring process:

    Effective Candidate Sourcing: Kristie promotes job postings on LinkedIn, uses paid LinkedIn ads, and leverages Slack channels. “I ask my client to post it on their company page on LinkedIn and promote it,” she says. This multi-channel strategy helps gather a substantial number of qualified applicants.Streamlined Screening Process: The initial screening process is critical to filter out unsuitable candidates. Kristie’s assistant conducts phone screens to ask about compensation structure, contributions to past organizations, and reasons for leaving previous jobs. They each get a grade. “If they're a nine or ten, they move forward,” Kristie explains.Behavioral-Based Interviews and Assessments: Candidates undergo a formal interview and an assessment to validate their skills. “We do an assessment review,” Kristie says, involving the prospective manager in the process. This helps ensure that the candidate is a good fit for the role and the company culture.The Verbal Offer

    Before extending a written offer, Kristie makes a verbal offer and tells them that once the written offer is received it requires a decision within 24 hours. This ensures candidates are committed and ready to join the team promptly.

    Smooth Onboarding Process

    Kristie highlights the importance of an effective onboarding process. “I stay on and support the first two weeks of the onboarding process,” she says. A structured onboarding plan is essential to ensure new hires receive the necessary support and start contributing quickly.

    Action Steps for CEOs:Develop an Ideal Candidate Profile: Define traits of your best sales performers to guide your hiring process.Leverage Multiple Sourcing Channels: Promote job openings widely to gather a substantial number of qualified applicants.Implement a Structured Screening Process: Use consistent, competency-based interviews and assessments to filter candidates.Ensure Effective Onboarding: Develop a detailed onboarding plan to support new hires and integrate them into the team quickly.

    Kristie Jones’ insights provide a clear roadmap for CEOs and sales leaders looking to build a high-performing sales team. Her experience underscores the importance of a structured hiring process and a supportive onboarding program.

    To gain deeper insights into Kristie's strategies and how they can transform your hiring process, listen to the full episode below. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or an established CEO, this episode provides practical advice and inspiration for building your dream sales team.

    Episode DetailsChapters

    03:25 Initial Steps in the Hiring Process

    04:56 Building Ideal Candidate Profiles

    06:46 Gender Decoder for Job Descriptions

    09:29 Promoting Job Openings Strategically

    12:38 Handling Large Numbers of Applications

    14:50 Initial Screening Process

    18:16 Behavioral-Based Interview Questions

    23:11 Assessment Stage

    31:22 Assessment Review and Manager Conversation

    34:07 Candidate Engagement

    36:53 High-Level Executive Interview

    37:38 Verbal and Written Offer

    39:37 Onboarding Process

    About Guest

    Kristie Jones Principal – Kristiejones.com

    Kristie, author of “Selling Your Way IN”, is a speaker, coach, and sales process

    consultant. Companies hire Kristie to elevate their sales organization because most

    sales leaders and professionals are discouraged and frustrated about anemic pipelines,

    low close rates and missed targets.

    Kristie’s willingness to get her hands dirty and her “take no prisoners” approach when

    helping companies drive more revenue from their Sales and Customer Success teams

    is what makes her so valuable to her clients. Her mission is helping companies find top

    talent as well as creating a sales accountability culture to ensure revenue growth.

    Kristie is passionate about coaching sales teams to leverage their superpowers to reach

    their full potential, and she wants representatives and sales leaders to identify and

    embody the practices and characteristics of Top Ten Percent achievers.

    Social Links

    Connect with Kristie on LinkedIn: (16) Kristie K. Jones | LinkedIn

    Check out Kristie on YouTube: Kristie Jones - YouTube

    Follow Kristie on Instagram: Kristie Jones (@kristiejones.sales) • Instagram photos and videos

    Check out Alice’s website: Alice Heiman | Sales Consultant and Strategist for CEOs

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: (16) Alice Heiman | LinkedIn

  • What if the key to your company’s success lay hidden in a challenge you’re currently facing? David Dulany's journey from sales frustration to creating a thriving business is a testament to this idea.

    In this episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Alice Heiman speaks with David Dulany, founder of Tenbound, about his transition from working at Achieve Global to founding a company focused on sales technology tools. David shares insights on pivoting his business, building a robust sales team, and the importance of niching down to meet market demands.

    Here’s what you’ll discover:

    David’s journey from sales training to founding Tenbound.The significance of pivoting and niching in business.Challenges and strategies in building an effective sales team.Insights into the evolving landscape of sales technology.David’s advice for CEOs on continuous learning and adaptation.Finding a Niche in Sales Technology

    David Dulany, founder of Tenbound, didn't start his career with a clear path to entrepreneurship. Initially working at Achieve Global, a sales and leadership training company, David always had a passion for the tech industry. "I got my foot in the door at Glassdoor when they first started, and we built up the SDR team there," David recalls. His experience at Glassdoor paved the way for his eventual leap into entrepreneurship.

    The Accidental Entrepreneur

    David describes his entry into entrepreneurship as accidental. "I was between jobs and a friend needed help with his SDR program," he says. This opportunity led to his first client and the birth of Tenbound. David’s story is a testament to seizing opportunities as they come and being open to new paths. "I was really interested in the predictable revenue model, and a lot of things converged at the same time," he notes.

    Building Tenbound

    Tenbound initially focused on consulting and training services for SDR teams. "We started doing playbooks, training, and consulting with different companies," David explains. The company's growth was largely driven by word of mouth and referrals. "People I had worked with in the past reached out, and that became a source of business," he says.

    Pivoting to Sales Technology

    The major pivot for Tenbound came with the realization of the growing demand for sales technology tools. "Everybody wanted to talk about the tools," David observes. This led to the creation of a comprehensive database of over 2,000 sales technology tools on Tenbound's website. "We've compiled this database where you can research and look into the best solutions for your sales problems," he explains.

    Overcoming Challenges in Hiring

    Hiring the right salespeople was a significant challenge for David. "One person can make such a huge difference to your company," he emphasizes. David's approach involved a lot of trial and error, but ultimately, he found success by hiring individuals with a proven track record in sales.

    Action Steps for CEOsEmbrace Flexibility: Be open to pivoting your business model based on market demands.Invest in People: Hiring the right talent can make a significant impact on your company’s success.Leverage Technology: Utilize sales technology tools to streamline operations and enhance efficiency.Build a Community: Foster strong relationships with clients and industry peers to create a robust referral network.

    David Dulany’s journey with Tenbound highlights the importance of adaptability, leveraging technology, and the power of community in building a successful business. To learn more about his strategies and insights, watch the full episode of Sales Talk for CEOs below.

    Episode DetailsChapters

    00:52 David's Early Career and Foundational Experience

    01:59 Introduction to Ten Bound and Its Current Focus

    02:54 David's Career Ride and Transition to Ten Bound

    06:03 Becoming an Accidental Entrepreneur

    07:54 Initial Hiring and Overcoming Early Challenges

    09:12 Strategies in Growing Ten Bound

    12:27 Sources of Early Business and Role of Referrals

    16:07 Launching Sales Development Conferences

    17:39 Realizing the Shift Towards Sales Technology

    19:56 Coping with Industry Shifts and Economic Changes

    22:47 Building the Market Map and Creating the Directory

    25:23 Interaction with Competitors and Future Plans

    29:05 Monetization and Customer Engagement

    30:53 Sales Strategy and Future Events

    32:59 Final Reflections and Key Takeaways

    About Guest

    David Dulany is Founder and CEO of Tenbound, a research and advisory firm focused on the Sales Technology industry. Tenbound.com lists over 2500 Sales Technology products and services and offers guidance on the best Sales Tech available.

    Social Links

    (39) Tenbound: Posts | LinkedIn

    (39) David Dulany | LinkedIn

    Main List Signup (tenboundplus.com)

    Tenbound - YouTube

    Tenbound | Facebook

    Tenbound (@Tenbound) / X

    Tenbound (@tenbound) • Instagram photos and videos

    Podcast Supporter Club

    The Sales Development Podcast (spreaker.com)

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • In an era where technology evolves at lightning speed, having the right team in place is no longer a luxury—it's a necessity. CEOs today face the critical task of ensuring their organizations are equipped for sustained growth and success. Matthew Toth, CEO of C3 Technology Advisors, shares valuable insights from his 15-year journey in building a successful technology consulting firm. Here’s what he’s learned about hiring, training, and retaining top talent.

    Building a Foundation for Success

    Matthew emphasizes the importance of laying a solid foundation for business success. "Sales is a lagging indicator of just doing the right things," he says. "If you build the right culture, bring on the right people, and have a good strategy, the numbers will follow." He believes that focusing on long-term goals and creating a strong company culture are essential steps toward sustainable growth.

    Effective Hiring Strategies

    When Matthew decided to start his own business, he knew he needed to hire the right people to grow. His approach to hiring involved planting seeds early. "I started seeding my network with, 'When this thing works out, I'm going to come for you one day,'" he shares. This proactive strategy allowed him to build a pipeline of potential hires who were already familiar with his vision and values.

    Matthew's first hire was someone he saw as a perfect fit for his company culture. Despite the initial challenges, he trained this employee by giving him numerous opportunities to engage in real-world sales activities. "I just decided I'm going to go grind this thing out," Matthew recalls. His emphasis on practical experience and on-the-job training helped his first hire become a successful leader within the company.

    Training and Development

    Training new hires can be challenging, especially without a formal process in place. Matthew's solution was to provide hands-on training through real-world experiences. By involving new employees in client interactions and sales processes, he ensured they gained practical skills and knowledge. "There's no training manual when you hire your first employee," he admits. "But giving them as many at-bats as possible was a great way to learn."

    Retaining Top Talent

    Retaining top talent is crucial for long-term success. Matthew believes that treating employees well and investing in their development is key. "I measure my success by year-over-year retention of extraordinary people," he says. By creating a supportive and growth-oriented environment, he has been able to maintain a high level of employee satisfaction and performance.

    Action Steps for CEOs

    Build a Strong Foundation: Focus on creating a positive company culture, hiring the right people, and developing a clear strategy.Proactive Hiring: Continuously build a pipeline of potential hires by networking and keeping in touch with talented individuals.Hands-On Training: Provide new hires with practical experiences and real-world opportunities to develop their skills.Invest in Retention: Treat employees well, invest in their development, and create a supportive work environment to retain top talent.

    Matthew Toth’s journey from a solo entrepreneur to the CEO of a successful technology consulting firm offers valuable lessons for any leader. His experience underscores the importance of building a strong foundation, proactive hiring, hands-on training, and investing in employee retention.

    To learn more about Matthew's strategies and insights, listen to the full episode below. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or an established CEO, this episode provides practical advice and inspiration for your business journey.

    About Guest

    I’m the father of one amazing girl, husband to a police officer and founder of C3 Technology Advisors. When I’m not growing C3 into everything it possibly can be, I like to golf, work out, read, and spend time with my friends and family.

    I started C3 Technology Advisors in November of 2008. I’ll never quite forget family and friends questioning the wisdom of starting a company just as the economy started to crumble and stalwarts of the banking industry failing left and right. I just had faith that C3 was what I was meant to do. I didn’t want to continue to work for corporate America and be subject to the whims of whoever my next director, VP, or company acquirer would be.

    I started this journey 15+ years ago as a one-man band. Today, I'm lucky to be surrounded by 38 incredible consultants, engineers, marketers, project managers, and more who now service clients on a wide range of technologies. I couldn't be any more blessed. I'm committed to building an enduring company that our employees, clients, and other stakeholders can be proud of.

    Social Links

    Check out C3 Technology Advisors' website: https://c3techadvisors.com/

    Connect with Matthew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/c3matthewtoth/

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • In the complex world of company leadership structures, the role of the Chief Revenue Officer (CRO) has sparked debates on its necessity and timing. In this episode of "Sales Talk for CEOs," Alice Heiman dives into the nuances of the CRO role, helping CEOs determine if and when it might be essential for their company.

    Deciphering the CRO Role:

    The emergence of the CRO role aims to bridge the gaps between sales, marketing, and customer success. Alice Heiman discusses the strategic integration these departments require, emphasizing that alignment is key to fostering growth and customer retention.

    When is a CRO Necessary?

    Alice points out that not every company needs a CRO immediately. She suggests that the consideration for a CRO often becomes relevant as companies approach or surpass the $50 million revenue mark. For smaller ventures, the CEO often needs to handle these alignments directly.

    Action Steps for CEOs:Assess Organizational Needs: Analyze whether your current setup effectively supports growth and customer alignment.Understand the CRO’s Impact: Consider how a CRO could influence your strategic outcomes.Prepare for Integration: Plan how a CRO would fit within your existing leadership framework.Educate Your Team: Ensure your staff understands the potential impact of a CRO on the company’s success.Why Consider a CRO?

    Understanding when a CRO is necessary involves recognizing the potential for better strategic alignment across departments that directly influence revenue generation. "The decision to appoint a CRO should be driven by specific business needs, not just industry trends," Alice explains.

    Tune Into the Full Discussion:

    For a deeper exploration of whether your company could benefit from a CRO, listen to the full episode of "Sales Talk for CEOs." Alice offers detailed advice that can guide your decision-making process about this pivotal role.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Sales Strategies

    01:45 Evolution of Sales and Marketing

    03:13 The Rise of Customer Success

    04:37 The C-Level Conundrum

    06:12 The Need for a CRO

    07:54 CEO’s Role in Alignment

    09:36 Creating Synergy for Customer Success

    11:08 Evaluating CRO Readiness

    Social Links

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn:

    (40) Alice Heiman | LinkedIn

    Check out Alice’s website:

    https://AliceHeiman.com

  • What role does vision play in sales and leadership? John Klymshyn, a Navy veteran turned renowned sales coach, author, and speaker shares his insights on how a clear vision can transform sales teams and inspire individuals to achieve greatness. Join us as John discusses his journey, the importance of vision, and actionable strategies for CEOs to lead their organizations effectively.

    Vision Precedes Everything

    John emphasizes that a clear vision is the foundation of successful leadership. "The first three words in my book on sales management are 'vision precedes everything.' Without vision, the people perish. Our employees are our precious inventory," John explains. A compelling vision inspires individuals to go the extra mile and fosters a sense of purpose within the organization.

    Inspiration Over Motivation

    According to John, the role of a CEO is not to motivate but to inspire. "Motivation fades, inspiration feeds," he says. Leaders can drive sustained performance and commitment by understanding individual motivations and creatively inspiring their teams. This approach helps individuals connect with the company's vision and see how their efforts contribute to a larger goal.

    Precision of Language

    Clear and precise language is essential for communicating vision effectively. John advises leaders to start sentences with "Here's where we're headed" to align their teams' focus. "When the vision can be expressed in one sentence, people either buy into it or they don't," he asserts. Precise language ensures everyone in the organization understands and can articulate the vision, leading to better alignment and execution.

    Action Steps for CEOs:Develop a Clear Vision: Spend time defining a concise vision for your organization. Ensure it resonates with your team's values and goals.Inspire, Don’t Just Motivate: Understand what drives your team members and use this knowledge to inspire them towards achieving the vision.Use Precise Language: Communicate the vision clearly and consistently. Use language that resonates and inspires action.

    John Klymshyn's insights on vision, inspiration, and leadership offer valuable lessons for CEOs looking to drive their sales teams to new heights. Leaders can align their organizations and achieve lasting success by developing a clear vision, inspiring rather than just motivating, and using precise language.

    Listen to the full episode below to gain deeper insights into John’s strategies and experiences. Whether you're a new CEO or an experienced leader, this episode provides practical advice on inspiring and leading your team effectively.

    Chapters

    01:22 The Importance of Vision

    05:10 Articulating Vision

    10:18 Crafting a Vision Statement

    15:10 Implementing Vision Throughout the Organization

    20:23 Vision and Sales Strategy

    25:05 Motivating Enterprise Salespeople

    29:42 Overcoming Misconceptions About Salespeople

    33:26 Engagement and Contribution

    38:50 The Lifelong Learner

    41:59 The Importance of Retention and Recruiting

    44:08 Closing Remarks and Key Takeaways

    About Guest

    John Klymshyn spends many of his waking hours Coaching “C” Suite Executives... and

    those on the path to those roles. Constructing and Maintaining GREAT Teams is his

    Focus.

    For John: “It’s all about the language!”

    John’s clients include: Indeed.com, Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts, The New York

    Times, Colliers International, Rent.com (now Apartments.com). Pinehurst Golf resort,

    Fish Richardson Law and many more. As a professional speaker, John has spoken in

    Mexico City, Cabo San Lucas, Toronto, Montreal, Honolulu, Dublin, Ireland and every

    major city in the United States.

    He has written 12 books, which have evolved from addressing and exploring creativity, to executive development and leadership of diverse teams. His sales trilogy led to one of his works being translated and published in Russian.

    In 2017 Klymshyn collaborated with noted Inventor and Designer Isaac Naor on a

    unique work: | STREAM | an Audio – Book, exploring creativity and flow states.

    Klymshyn and Terri (his wife of 39+ years) have two grown children, and currently

    divide their time between their home in Southwest Idaho and the world’s great wine

    tasting rooms.

    Social Links

    John Klymshyn Author Page on AMAZON

    Find John’s website here: https://www.klymshyn.com/

    Connect with John on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnklymshyn/

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • Having no plans of becoming a CEO, engineer Marko Dinic shares his 18-year journey to becoming the leader of a company that excels in compliance solutions. Leading his company through both triumphs and challenges, Marko, CEO of Jatheon, delves into his experiences, lessons learned, and the unique insights he's gained along the way.

    Complex Sales Require Technical Expertise

    Marko emphasizes the need for deep technical understanding when selling intricate compliance solutions. Marko states, “In our industry, sales cycles are very long and involve numerous technical evaluations and integrations. Having a technical lead ensures that we can address any technical concerns that arise during the process, providing confidence to our clients and streamlining the sales journey.”

    Adapting Through Economic Turmoil

    Facing market turmoil and recession, Marko had to downsize and rebuild, showcasing resilience and adaptability in leadership. He recalls, “We went from 32 people down to six. So it wasn't going according to plan. But we were able to get back to a cash flow positive state by 2013.”

    Building the Right Team

    The journey to finding the right sales team involved trial and error, emphasizing the need for experienced, senior salespeople who understand the intricacies of the industry. Marko shares, “We arrived at our current setup, which is primarily SEO-based and PPC-based inbound leads. They come to our senior account executives. We do not have SDRs in front of them because we found that young sales executives do not help us at all.”

    Action Steps for CEOs:Embrace Technical Expertise in Sales: Ensure your sales team includes technical leads to handle complex details and improve the overall sales process.Focus on Resilience: Prepare for economic challenges by having adaptable strategies and a resilient mindset.Invest in Senior Talent: Hire experienced salespeople who can navigate complex sales environments and provide valuable feedback for product development.

    Marko Dinic's journey from engineer to CEO of Jatheon offers invaluable lessons for any leader. His experience underscores the importance of technical expertise in sales, resilience in the face of economic challenges, and the critical role of hiring the right team.

    To gain deeper insights into Marko's story and the strategies that have driven his success, listen to the full episode below. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or an established CEO, this episode provides practical advice and inspiration for your own business journey.

    Episode DetailsChapters

    00:49 Overview of Jatheon Technologies

    02:52 Early Career and Joining Jatheon

    09:33 Navigating Financial Challenges and Reorganization

    09:33 Transitioning to CEO and Sales Department Challenges

    14:25 Structuring and Scaling the Sales Team

    20:34 Lessons from Trial and Error in Hiring

    24:30 Remote Work and Open Communication Culture

    30:51 Alignment and Continuous Improvement

    42:26 Recommendations and Closing Remarks

    About Guest

    Marko Dinic is an SaaS B2B entrepreneur, investor, and CEO of Jatheon Technologies, a Toronto-based com tech company that is a leader in the archiving and compliance technology sector.

    With a sharp focus on innovation and customer-centric solutions, Marko has spearheaded Jatheon’s transformation into a key player in the data archiving space. His strategic vision centers around providing robust and secure archiving solutions that cater to regulated industries, including financial services, healthcare, and government entities. Marko’s leadership is marked by a commitment to delivering technologies that ensure compliance with evolving regulations and enhance operational efficiency. His expertise and dedication have been pivotal in Jatheon’s growth and its ability to help organizations manage their information governance and compliance challenges effectively.

    Social Links

    Connect with Marko on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markodinic/

    Connect with Marko on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mdinic

    Check out Jatheon’s website: https://jatheon.com/

    Follow Jatheon on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/jatheon-technologies

    Follow Jatheon on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jatheon

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • In 2015, Sujan Patel faced a common frustration: sales teams failing to follow up with prospects. His solution? Build a tool so effective that it turned into a successful company, Mailshake.

    In this episode, Alice Heiman talks with Sujan Patel, co-founder of Mailshake, about his journey from solving his own sales problems to building a successful bootstrapped company. Sujan shares valuable lessons learned over the past ten years.

    Here’s what you’ll discover:

    How Sujan transitioned from marketing to sales and founded Mailshake.The importance of pivoting and targeting the right audience.Building a community early for successThe benefits of product-led growth.Advice for CEOs on staying focused and differentiating in a crowded market.A Problem-Solver's Beginning

    Sujan Patel, co-founder of Mailshake, didn't initially set out to create a sales engagement platform. As a VP of Marketing at a SaaS company, he discovered a significant gap in sales follow-up and engagement. "I needed a simple tool to make sure the sales team follows up. Humans, step aside; software, let's go solve this problem," Sujan recalls. His background in marketing led him to develop Mailshake to address his own sales challenges. "I took over the sales team with no real background in sales," Sujan shares. He realized that effective follow-up and engagement were missing, prompting him to create a solution.

    Building a Community

    Initially targeting marketers, Sujan quickly realized that salespeople were the primary users who benefited most from Mailshake. "We changed all of our branding and copy to focus specifically on the sales use case," Sujan explains. This pivot was crucial for the company's growth and product-market fit. His strategy involved building a community and sharing his journey with potential customers. "I built about a 50,000-person email list and updated them weekly on my journey," he says. This approach not only created early traction but also fostered a sense of involvement among his audience.

    Scaling the Sales Organization

    As Mailshake grew, Sujan transitioned from handling sales himself to building a sales team. "I hired a sales assist first, which effectively doubled our conversion rate," he notes. This move allowed him to focus on the company's vision while ensuring that customers received the support they needed. Mailshake's product-led growth strategy enabled them to scale without a massive sales team. "We went from a team of 15 sales reps to a lean, mean five people," Sujan highlights. By focusing on simplicity and ease of use, Mailshake maintained high customer satisfaction and retention.

    Sujan’s Advice for CEOs

    Sujan emphasizes the importance of knowing your differentiator in a crowded market. "You need to have one thing that is your differentiator or what you're amazing at," he advises. By staying focused on their strengths and continuously improving their product, Mailshake continues to thrive.

    Action Steps for CEOsUnderstand Your Market: Regularly reassess your target audience and be willing to pivot based on feedback and market demand.Leverage Community Building: Engage with your potential customers early and often. Building a community can create loyal advocates and provide valuable insights.Invest in Product-Led Growth: Focus on making your product so good that it sells itself. Simplify the user experience and provide clear value.Scale Thoughtfully: Grow your team and processes in response to demand. Ensure each addition to your team aligns with your strategic goals.

    Sujan Patel’s journey with Mailshake highlights the power of innovation driven by personal frustration and a deep understanding of market needs. To learn more about his strategies and insights, watch the full episode of Sales Talk for CEOs below.

    Episode DetailsChapters

    01:00 Introduction & Background

    02:17 The Origin of Mailshake

    06:55 Bootstrapping & Finding Product-Market Fit

    10:03 Early Growth Strategies

    15:09 Transitioning to Sales-Led Growth

    18:25 Challenges in Outbound Sales

    22:02 Focusing on Specific Verticals

    25:04 Current Organizational Structure

    29:27 Product-Led Growth and AI Integration

    36:06 Recommendations for CEOs

    39:34 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

    About Guest

    Sujan Patel is the co-founder of Mailshake, a sales engagement software used by 62,000 sales and marketing professionals. He also owns 4 other SaaS companies under Ramp Ventures. Sujan has over 20 years of marketing experience and has led the digital marketing strategy for companies like Salesforce, Mint, Cafepress and many other Fortune 500 caliber companies.

    Social Links

    Check out Sujan's portfolio of SaaS businesses:

    AI Powered Sales Engagement & B2B Lead Platform - Mailshake - Sales Engagement & Automation

    Free Work Schedule Maker & Time Clock App - ZoomShift - Scheduling and Time Clock

    Email Finder: Free 50 Verified Email Addresses - VoilaNorbert - Sales Prospecting Data

    Email Tracking, Create Email Reminders & Recurring Email In Gmail (rightinbox.com)- Supercharge Gmail

    Connect with Sujan on LinkedIn: (35) Sujan Patel | LinkedIn

    Check out Alice’s website: Alice Heiman | Sales Consultant and Strategist for CEOs

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: (35) Alice Heiman | LinkedIn

  • Imagine this: every person reporting directly to you is not just competent, but an A-player, fully aligned with your vision and driving your company's growth. Sounds ideal, right? This is not just a dream—it's an achievable reality that can transform the way you lead. Today on "Sales Talk for CEOs," Alice Heiman delves into why having the right people in the right roles is not just beneficial but essential for your company's success.

    Key TakeawaysEvaluate Your Team: It's crucial to assess if each team member is an A-player who contributes positively to your company’s performance and culture. Alice notes, “You do not need to struggle with the people who work for you. It’s not good for you, it’s not good for them, and it isn’t good for the rest of the company.”Leverage Individual Strengths: Encourage team members to operate in their "genius zone" where they excel and are most passionate, boosting morale and efficiency. Alice emphasizes, “Know what you’re good at and do that. Let’s figure out how to get someone else to do things you’re not good at, rather than having you do them poorly.”Strategic Restructuring: Be willing to make tough decisions. If team members are not suited to their roles, consider reassignments or changes to better align their strengths with the company’s needs. Don’t just live with it. As Alice points out, “It’s just really not fair to anyone and it doesn’t make your company grow faster, that’s for sure.”

    Alice discusses the common challenges CEOs face with team dynamics, emphasizing the importance of not just filling positions, but filling them with people who truly fit the company’s vision and values.

    Action Steps for CEOs:Conduct a Performance Review: Identify who truly meets the A-player criteria.Focus on Your Strengths: Ensure you are working within your genius zone and encourage your team to do the same.Clear Communication on Roles: Have honest discussions with your team about their performance and future within the company.

    Alice challenges leaders to envision a team that not only supports but propels company growth. She poses a critical reflection for every CEO, "What would your world be like if every team member was an A-player?"

    Aligning your team with your company's goals isn't just beneficial—it's crucial for thriving in today's competitive market. Tune into the full podcast for a deeper dive into how you can lead your team to success.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction - Alice Heiman kicks off the podcast addressing CEOs and discussing the challenges with sales strategies.

    02:14 A Player Struggles - Exploring the common CEO issue of having underperforming team members and the desire to turn them into A players.

    04:24 CEO's Role in Team Performance - The harsh truth that a part of the struggle with team performance lies with the CEOs' decisions.

    06:23 Genius Zone Concept - Alice Heiman introduces the concept of working within one's 'genius zone' to enhance personal and company growth.

    08:02 Team Structuring - Discussing the importance of aligning team members' roles with their strengths and talents.

    09:24 Personnel Changes - Insights on making tough personnel decisions to ensure each team member is playing to their strengths.

    11:14 Impact on Customer Experience - How internal team dynamics directly influence customer satisfaction and sales.

    13:04 Call to Action for CEOs - Alice Heiman urges CEOs to evaluate themselves and their teams to optimize company performance and growth.

    13:50 Conclusion - Wrapping up by emphasizing the CEO's role in building a strong company culture and inviting listeners to the next episode.

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn:

    (40) Alice Heiman | LinkedIn

    Check out Alice’s website:

    https://AliceHeiman.com

  • Landing big deals, or "whale hunting," is crucial for small and mid-sized businesses aiming to grow. In a recent episode of "Sales Talk for CEOs," Barbara Weaver Smith, an expert in whale hunting, shared invaluable insights on how CEOs can successfully target and secure these significant accounts.

    From Strategy to Action: The Essence of Whale Hunting

    Whale hunting is a systematic process for scouting, hunting, and harvesting large accounts. Barbara explains, “A whale is a customer that could give you a deal that's ten to twenty times bigger than your current average deal.” This approach requires the involvement of the CEO and senior leaders to succeed. "Selling is a team sport. The salesperson is an orchestrator,” says Barbara.

    Why Whale Hunting Matters

    Securing large accounts is one of the safest and least expensive ways to grow your business. Barbara highlights, "If you get one big company and understand strategically how to move in that company, you can do a lifetime of business with that one customer."

    Key Strategies for Whale Hunting

    Identify the Right Targets: It’s essential to know which companies to target. Barbara advises picking a specific geography and industry to build brand recognition and power.Mitigate Risks: Big companies have significant fears about working with smaller companies. Barbara suggests preparing materials to address these fears, such as detailed onboarding plans and financial stability assurances.Leverage Networks: Use your network to gain introductions to key decision-makers. Barbara shares, "The idea that you picked them out because you have a set of criteria and they fulfill it perfectly... they just beam."Involve the CEO: The CEO must play an active role in the sales process, especially in building trust with potential clients. Barbara notes, "They need to know you, and they need to know you know what the sales team is doing."

    From Insights to Implementation: Key Action Steps for CEOs

    To transform these strategies into successful outcomes, CEOs need to take deliberate actions. Here are the crucial steps to effectively pursue and land whales:

    Emphasize Personal Interaction: Build trust by having direct engagement at the right level with potential clients.Understand the Risks: Prepare in advance to mitigate the risks the leaders of large companies will have. Build a Dedicated Team: Train a team that can effectively execute your whale hunting strategy.

    Barbara Weaver Smith’s insights provide a roadmap for CEOs looking to elevate their sales game by targeting and securing large accounts. For more detailed strategies and expert advice, watch the full episode below.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introducing Barbara Weaver Smith - Host Alice welcomes Barbara Weaver Smith. She is an expert in "whale hunting" — landing major accounts.

    01:33 The Excitement of Sales Talk - Barbara expresses her anticipation for discussing her area of expertise.

    01:53 Defining Whale Hunting - Barbara explains whale hunting as a business strategy. She emphasizes CEO involvement for successful large deals.

    03:07 The Importance of Teams in Sales - Emphasizing sales as a team sport. Lone wolves are a thing of the past.

    05:50 Scouting and Engaging Targets - The process of identifying ideal clients. The role of scouts and engaging teams in whale hunting.

    07:44 The Value of Large Accounts - Barbara discusses strategic growth through large client accounts. She explains their impact on businesses.

    08:03 Repeat Success - Addressing the challenge of replicating the success of landing a first-time whale. This requires a deliberate and structured approach.

    10:35 Overcoming "Whale Fears" - Introducing the notion of mitigating big companies' fears. This includes dealing with smaller vendors and financial risks.

    14:11 Building Effective Sales Teams - The need for sales teams to be business-savvy. They must also be capable of leading a buyer's journey.

    17:31 Crafting a Precise Customer Approach - Using customer dossiers for targeted engagement. Proper introductions are key.

    21:54 Establishing the Buying Journey - Sales teams lead the buying journey. They identify key stakeholders in a large deal.

    25:04 CEO Involvement - Discussing the strategic role of a CEO in sales meetings. This is crucial during complex negotiations.

    28:01 After the Whale Hunt - Post-sale strategies are vital. The importance of onboarding new large accounts for long-term success.

    31:21 Introducing The Whale Hunters Institute - Barbara reveals her new project. It offers resources and a digital coach to help companies in whale hunting.

    About Guest

    I am Barbara Weaver Smith, the founder of The Whale Hunters Institute. At The Whale Hunters, we are passionate about pioneering innovative sales strategies. With the introduction of Barbara AI, we are revolutionizing sales coaching, making it accessible 24/7. Our mission is to empower businesses of all sizes with practical tips for success. Let's navigate the sales world together!

    Social Links

    Barbara Weaver Smith LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbaraweaversmith/

    Whale Hunters LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-whale-hunters/

    Barbara Weaver Smith Twitter: https://twitter.com/thewhalehunters

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • Episode Summary: Ever felt the frustration of navigating customer service bots that just don't get your problem? Alex Levin of Regal.io understands this pain all too well and is transforming customer interaction with a human touch. He shares his journey from working to build Angie’s list to cofounding Regal.io, getting customer feedback in the early days and growing sales to $3M ARR in the first year.

    Here's what you'll discover:

    After taking Angie's List from 1 million to 1.5 billion, why Alex craved the startup world.The founding story of Regal.io and its mission.How personalized customer interactions can drive sales.The importance of a hands-on approach in the early stages of a startup.

    From Angie's List to Regal.io: The Founding Story After helping Angie's List grow from 1 million to 1.5 billion in revenue, Alex Levin yearned for the dynamic environment of a startup. Recognizing a gap in how companies interact with customers online, he co-founded Regal.io. “People were nervous about making big decisions online. What worked was actually talking with the customer,” says Alex. He found that for complex services, customers preferred real conversations to feel reassured and confident.

    Personalized Customer Engagement Regal.io was born from the insight that certain industries, like home services, healthcare, and education, benefit immensely from personalized customer interactions. At Angie's List, Alex saw that conversion rates improved significantly when customers had real conversations. He explains, “We had a team of 5000 people engaging directly with customers, but the tools were not made for proactively engaging them.” This meant using a large team to personally interact with customers, build trust, and guide them, even though existing tools weren’t designed for this proactive approach.

    Building the Business Alex and his co-founder took a calculated risk, leaving their jobs to build Regal.io without a finished product. They validated their concept by showing potential customers mockups and iterating based on feedback before raising money. Alex emphasizes, “Don't raise any money until you've convinced yourself it's a real business.”

    Scaling and Sales Strategy Initially, Alex led the sales efforts himself, leveraging his industry knowledge and personal network and was able to close $3M in ARR the first year. When you are doing all the selling and decide you are ready for some help, he advises, “Get somebody to shadow you, see what you're doing, figure out how you're doing it.” This hands-on approach helped them get others up to speed more quickly.

    The Role of Human Interaction In a world increasingly driven by digital interactions, Regal.io stands out by emphasizing the value of human touch. “If you’re lucky, people go to that one feature they like, and you end up spending years building that,” Alex notes. This approach has helped Regal.io grow rapidly, reaching significant milestones in a short time.

    Action Steps for CEOs

    Emphasize Personal Interaction: Identify areas where direct engagement can significantly impact customer experience and conversion rates.Validate Early: Before investing heavily, use mockups and direct customer feedback to refine your product concept.Build a Dedicated Team: Hire individuals who can shadow and learn from your sales process to create a scalable sales strategy.

    Making real connections with your customers can make a big difference. Alex Levin's journey with Regal.io shows how personal touch can drive business success. For more insights and detailed strategies, watch the full episode below.

    Chapters

    01:02 Guest Welcome - Introduction of Alex Levin, founder of Regal IO, and his journey from Angie's List to starting his venture.

    01:32 Regal IO Explained - Alex provides insights on Regal IO's conception from his experiences at Angie's List and the gap in the home services industry.

    02:48 Customer Engagement Realities - The revelation of conversational engagement increasing conversion rates and how Regal IO addresses this in various industries.

    05:03 The Human Touch in Digital - Discussing why despite digital trends, human interaction remains crucial in customer engagement and business dealings.

    05:56 Startup Leap - Alex shares the motivations for leaving a large company and deciding to build a startup addressing sales engagement difficulties.

    07:37 Founding Moments - Strategy behind launching Regal IO, including initial market research and the philosophy of avoiding premature funding.

    09:13 Entrepreneurial Grit - The importance of perseverance and adaptability in an entrepreneur’s journey from concept to successful company growth.

    10:24 Sales Strategies - Alex reflects on the early sales approach of Regal IO and the lessons learned about pricing and building a sales team.

    13:23 Scaling Sales - From sales tactics at 3 million ARR to scaling up operations and transitioning to an enterprise sales model and channel partnerships.

    16:55 Customer-Centric Sales Structure - Alex stresses the significance of customer experience during onboarding and maintaining executive involvement in the sales process.

    18:39 Role of the CEO in Scaling - Alex advises CEOs on evolving their roles in sales strategy as their company grows, using both personal involvement and strategic delegation.

    20:14 Growth and Sales Team Evolution - An overview of how Regal IO went from a solitary sales front to a robust 30-member team tailored to market needs.

    24:10 Executive Participation - Navigating the balancing act in bringing senior executives into sales conversations to provide value and secure customer loyalty.

    27:30 Final Thoughts and Advice - Alex imparts final advice for CEOs on positioning their products in a cost-conscious market and ensuring they convey unique value.

    About Guest

    Alex Levin is Co-Founder and CEO of Regal.io. He leads the GTM teams. Prior to Regal.io, Alex was a product manager at Personal and Thomson Reuters, and then joined Handy (acquired by ANGI in 2018) as an early employee. At Handy and then ANGI Alex led growth and marketing. Alex grew up in New York and received his BA from Harvard.

    Social Links

    Connect with Alex on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexlevin1/

    REGAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/regal-io/

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • Did you know 95% of Americans eat at least one cookie per month? In today's "Sales Talk for CEOs," Alice speaks with Grayson Hogard's entrepreneurial journey from hobby baking to a hugely successful business. As CEO of Grove Cookies, Grayson turned traditional treats into a powerhouse of corporate gifting. Discover how cookies can reshape client relations and strategies.

    A Sweet Start

    In 2020, amidst the pandemic, Grayson and his wife began baking as a hobby. Their homemade Oreo cookies were a hit among friends, sparking the idea to sell them. "When I took a bite out of our Oreo cookie, I was like, okay, this is real," Grayson recalls. They quickly set up their business, choosing traditional cookie flavors over trendy ones to stand out in the crowded market.

    From Home Kitchen to Corporate Gifting

    Grayson's logistics expertise and initial positive feedback led them to focus on corporate gifting. They realized the potential when a financial advisor requested hundreds of cookies as client gifts. "When you get a client that wants to send out 500 gifts a year, you just are like, oh, there's a market here, let's explore it," Grayson explains. This insight shifted their business towards serving corporate clients, offering a memorable and delicious touch to business relationships.

    Navigating Business Growth

    Despite no formal business background in baking or sales, Grayson's experience in logistics helped streamline their operations. They refined their offerings based on customer feedback, ensuring their cookies always arrived intact and delicious. "All that mattered to them at the moment was cookies do not break. And we succeeded on the first try," Grayson notes about their packaging efforts.

    The Key to Success: Listening and Adapting

    Listening to their clients has been crucial. Grove Cookies adapted their packaging and expanded their range based on client needs, maintaining high standards and customer satisfaction. Grayson emphasizes, "Really listening to your customers, which is always important, and executing off of that."

    Action Steps for CEOs:Identify Unique Opportunities: Like Grayson, look for unique angles in crowded markets.Leverage Personal Passions: Turn personal passions into business opportunities.Listen to Your Customers: Use client feedback to refine and adapt your offerings.

    For more insights and the full story of how Grove Cookies turned a simple idea into a thriving business, make sure to watch the full episode of Sales Talk for CEOs. Discover the power of combining passion with business acumen!

    Chapters

    01:42 Overview of Grove Cookie - Grayson explains the focus of Grove Cookie, specializing in corporate gifting and sales and marketing.
    02:23 Popularity of Cookies - Discussion about the universal appeal of cookies and their role in corporate gifting.
    04:01 Choosing the First Cookie Flavor - Grayson talks about selecting the Oreo cookie as their first flavor and how it became a favorite.
    05:27 Packaging and Shipping Challenges - The initial challenges of packaging and shipping cookies without them breaking.
    06:36 First Sale and Realization of Market - Grayson's first sale to his mother and the realization of a market for corporate gifting.
    07:51 Networking for Initial Clients - The importance of networking in securing their first major clients and building relationships.
    09:33 Cold Calling Strategy - Grayson shares his experience with cold calling and the success it brought in securing clients.
    10:40 Ideal Customer Profile - How they identified financial advisors as their initial target market.
    12:53 Learning from Feedback - The significance of customer feedback in refining their products and services.
    16:52 Expanding Customer Base - How the ideal customer profile has changed and the benefits of partnering with gifting platforms.
    18:05 Using Gifting for Prospects - Grayson discusses their strategy of using cookies to initiate contact with potential clients.
    20:27 Sales Techniques - Insights into effective sales techniques, including personalized outreach and follow-up strategies.
    22:31 Building Partnerships - The role of partnerships with gifting platforms in expanding their market reach.
    25:22 Organic Marketing Success - The impact of organic marketing and social media in growing Grove Cookies' brand presence.
    28:30 Challenges of Scaling - The challenges and learning experiences of scaling the business while maintaining quality and service.

    About Guest

    Founder of Grove Cookie Company. My wife and I launched our company from our townhome in 2021 with a focus on B2B gifting with cookies.
    We are the premier B2B cookie company focused solely on enhancing your professional relationships.
    What started as a fun side hustle crafting small batch, soft and delicious cookies became a fun and exciting business that quickly outgrew our home kitchen.
    In 2022, we moved our operation out of our home and into our very own production facility in Tigard, Oregon.
    We use quality ingredients from companies known for their ethical treatment of animals and a commitment to sustainability, like Ghirardelli & Bob's Red Mill.
    We offer nationwide shipping, DoorDash delivery, and pickup.
    Cookies delivered - 2021, year 1: 13,990
    Cookies delivered - 2022, year 2: 52,437
    Cookies delivered - 2023, year 3: 220,186
    Cookies Delivered - 2024, year 4: TBD

    Social Links

    Connect with Grayson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/graysonhogard/

    Grove Cookies LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/grovecookiecompany/

    Grove Cookies Website: https://www.grovecookiecompany.com/

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • In today's fiercely competitive market, understanding the core of value-driven sales can be transformative. This crucial concept was the centerpiece of our latest "Sales Talk for CEOs" episode, featuring expert Ian Campbell, CEO of Nucleus Research and author of "The Value Sale." In this discussion, we delve into how emphasizing value rather than just product features can revolutionize sales dynamics and lead to enduring customer relationships.

    Key Takeaways:Accelerating Sales Cycles with Value: Demonstrating the true value of products or services can significantly shorten the sales cycle and enhance customer satisfaction.Sustaining Post-Sale Value: Delivering ongoing value post-sale is crucial for ensuring customer loyalty and facilitating smooth renewals.Essential Value Articulation: It's vital for CEOs to train their teams to articulate value effectively, aligning closely with customer expectations.Action Steps for CEOs:Evaluate Sales Messaging: Refocus your sales conversations to emphasize value over product features.Commit to Training: Continuously train your sales team on recognizing and communicating value effectively.Adapt and Improve: Regularly assess how your team communicates value and adjust strategies as needed.

    Ian Campbell shared, "When value drives a deal, people shorten the sales cycle. They make better references." This emphasizes the importance of a value-centric approach in modern sales strategies.

    Alice Heiman underscored the significance of this strategy, stating, "When there's value, you have the momentum you need to keep a sale going and close it."

    For a deeper dive into how embedding value in your sales process can foster more engaged and loyal customers, be sure to watch the full episode of "Sales Talk for CEOs." This discussion is essential for CEOs looking to refine their sales strategy and cultivate teams that prioritize customer value at every interaction. Don’t miss these expert insights — watch the full episode now!

    You are not going to want to miss this episode with expert Ian Campbell! For a comprehensive exploration of their insights, make sure to watch the entire episode.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction - Welcome to Sales Talk for CEOs and introduction to the value proposition topic with guest Ian Campbell of Nucleus Research.

    01:30 The Importance of Value - Exploring why value is essential in sales and how it can shorten sales cycles and foster long-term customer relationships.

    02:56 Focusing on Customer Value - The discussion shifts to a customer-centric approach and how value shapes their purchasing decisions.

    04:28 Renewals and References - Ian emphasizes the pivotal role of articulating value for subscription renewals and generating robust customer references.

    05:34 Beyond the Sale - Delving into how value sustains the customer journey beyond the initial sale, influencing retention and word-of-mouth marketing.

    06:23 Key Value Aspects - Ian breaks down the critical factors of value that resonate most strongly with customers, aiding in the sales process.

    07:23 Direct vs. Indirect Benefits - Understanding the difference between direct and indirect benefits and their impact on the value narrative.

    08:15 Crafting Marketing and Sales Messages - The conversion to align marketing and sales messaging with value-driven content to captivate the target audience.

    09:39 The Art of Value Language - Learning how to effectively communicate value propositions, translating into successful customer engagement.

    10:17 Selling Through Value - Ian explains the significance of selling through an individual to make an organization-wide impact.

    12:08 Assessing Sales Team Culture - A guide for CEOs to evaluate whether their teams are truly embracing value selling tactics.

    13:14 Training for Value Selling - Highlighting the necessity for CEOs to provide comprehensive training on value selling and relevant tools to their sales teams.

    18:23 Knowing Your Customer Value - Emphasizing the need for connecting product features to tangible customer value.

    19:08 Value Selling Methodology - Ian shares practical steps in the methodology of value selling, from early engagement to closing deals.

    21:16 The Elevator Pitch - The importance of equipping your sales team with a strong value-driven pitch for stakeholders like the CFO.

    About Guest

    Ian Campbell is CEO of Nucleus Research, where he is responsible for the company’s investigative research approach, product set, and overall corporate direction. A recognized expert on ROI and TCO analysis of technology, Campbell is a frequent speaker at industry and business events. He has been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Economist, and the Financial Times.

    Social Links

    Ian Campbell LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iancampbellnucleusresearch/

    Nucleus Research LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/nucleus-research/

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • Did you know that collaborative team selling has become a fundamental approach for modern businesses? According to Forrester, nearly 60% of sales leaders now emphasize team collaboration over individual efforts to secure significant deals. In this compelling solo episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Alice Heiman explores why moving away from traditional sales and marketing silos to a unified go-to-market (GTM) strategy is crucial for thriving in today’s competitive landscape.

    Key Insights for CEOs:

    Team-Based Selling is Essential: "The days of the lone wolf seller are long gone," Alice explains, highlighting the importance of team collaboration in sales.Cultural Shift is Necessary: A GTM strategy involves reshaping your company's culture so that everyone understands their role in sales success.Marketing Must Contribute to Sales: Alice stresses that marketing should generate sales-qualified leads, directly contributing to the sales pipeline.Include Customer Success Early: Start customer success processes early in the sales cycle to enhance customer retention and satisfaction.Actions for CEO’s:

    How to Implement a GTM Strategy:

    Evaluate Your Current Processes: Look at how each department supports or hinders sales and customer experiences.Encourage Collaboration: Work towards unified sales goals across all departments.Clearly Communicate Your Vision: Articulate a vision that emphasizes exceptional customer experience across all departments.

    Adopting a GTM strategy is not just an operational change but a strategic necessity for modern CEOs. For a deeper dive into these strategies, watch the full episode of Sales Talk for CEOs. Equip your team to meet today's market challenges by integrating these insights and encouraging them to adopt a successful GTM strategy.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction - Alice Heiman uncovers the evolving landscape of sales and the vital shift from siloed functions to a unified go-to-market strategy.

    02:02 Go-to-Market Importance - Unpacking the necessity for team collaboration in sales and questioning traditional sales, marketing, and customer success isolation.

    04:28 Marketing's Role in Sales - A deep dive into how marketing must transition from branding to owning sales numbers and generating qualified leads.

    05:39 Customer Success Integration - Exploring the expanded role of customer success in onboarding and retention, starting long before the sales close.

    07:17 Cross-Departmental Sales Roles - A call for every department to recognize their part in sales and how they contribute to making it easier for customers.

    09:20 CEO's Leadership in Sales Alignment - Emphasizing the CEO's unique position to realign the company's vision and culture towards a customer-centric, integrated sales approach.

    Social Links

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • "It's how you sell that becomes your differentiator in a crowded market," explained Ross Rich. Alice was excited to talk with Ross, whom she’s known since the early days of his entrepreneurial journey. Ross, the CEO of Accord, started his company to solve a critical problem in sales: lack of transparency between teams and customers. His insights are not just about Accord’s journey from idea to successful product, but about the transformative lessons learned from evolving from a sales rep to a CEO.

    Key Takeaways for CEOs:1. The Genesis of Accord: A Lesson in Identifying Market Gaps

    Ross’s journey began at Stripe, where he recognized a recurring challenge across sales teams—aligning the "why," "how," and "who" of deals was cumbersome and opaque. This realization spurred him to develop Accord, demonstrating the power of addressing specific market needs with precise solutions. “The whole idea behind Accord is taking those best practices that pretty much every top seller uses...and building that into software to make it really easy for both the seller and the customer to understand those three key aspects,” Ross shared.

    2. Embracing the Entrepreneurial Leap: Overcoming Fear with Preparation

    Ross’s transition from employee to founder wasn't spontaneous. It was calculated and gradual, emphasizing that making 'the leap' should feel like a natural next step, not a risky jump into the unknown. He advised, “It shouldn’t feel like a crazy leap at the time...By the time that you’re ready to do it, it should be, hey, I have an overwhelming amount of work to do on this project.”

    3. The Importance of Early Customer Success Management

    One of the critical early mistakes Ross acknowledged was underestimating the importance of customer success management. Before scaling the product or marketing efforts, ensuring that the initial customers are successful and well-supported is vital. This focus helps in refining the product based on real user feedback and solidifies the foundation for scaling.

    What to Do Next? Actionable Steps for CEOs:

    Ross’s experiences underline the necessity of not just starting a business but nurturing it through thoughtful steps and strategies. For CEOs aiming to replicate such success, here are actionable steps to consider:

    Evaluate Market Needs: Just as Ross identified a gap in sales transparency, CEOs should look for unmet needs in their markets that align with their expertise and business vision.Gradual Transition into Entrepreneurship: Transitioning to a full-time entrepreneurial role should be a process rather than a sudden shift. This approach reduces risk and ensures a solid foundation for the business.Prioritize Customer Success: Invest in customer success early on. This focus will not only improve your product through genuine feedback but also increase customer retention and satisfaction.

    To grasp the complete range of insights Ross offers about enhancing your business operations through these foundational strategies, watch the full episode on our youtube channel.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction - Alice opens the episode touching on the need for CEOs to update sales strategies and the joy of reconnecting with early-stage entrepreneurs she had met.

    02:07 Welcome Ross Rick - Ross Rich, founder of Accord, joins the conversation, reminiscing about the initial connection with the show host, Alice.

    02:41 Discussing Accord - Ross introduces Accord, sharing insights from his early days as a seller at Stripe and the concept behind his company.

    03:21 Technical Interruption - A sudden audio cut forces a pause in the conversation, prompting troubleshooting efforts.

    05:43 Resuming Conversation - With technical issues resolved, they restart the discussion, focusing on Accord's role in sales transparency and customer understanding.

    06:27 Why Accord Was Founded - Ross delves into his journey starting Accord, driven by the essentials of successful deals: the 'why', 'how', and 'who'.

    08:03 The Genesis of Accord - Insights into the conception of Accord, Ross's realization of an opportunity, and how he transitioned from idea to action.

    10:04 Discussing Customer Experience - Exploration of why providing a superior customer experience is pivotal in today's competitive sales environment.

    10:53 First Steps to Entrepreneurship - Ross shares the initial hesitancies and the pivotal moment leading to the full-time commitment to Accord.

    12:15 The Importance of Customer Success - The conversation shifts to the critical role of customer success and the early challenges faced in onboarding users.

    14:27 Gaining Your First Customers - How networking and leveraging personal connections allowed Accord to acquire their initial customer base.

    16:47 Intentional Customer Targeting - Ross emphasizes the shift from an inbound marketing approach to a focused strategy on identifying and securing ideal customers.

    18:21 The Right Messaging - Continuing the marketing discussion, they explore the importance of crafting messages that resonate with the target audience.

    19:40 Building the Sales Team - Delving into sales team construction, Ross shares his advice on the timing and type of sales hires needed for a growing startup.

    21:44 Current Team Landscape - A look at Accord's current marketing, sales, and customer success teams, and the lessons learned in building an effective go-to-market strategy.

    About Guest

    Ross Rich is the CEO and Co-Founder of Accord. Accord ensures rigorous deal execution by enforcing your standards for how you sell, onboard, and expand with customers. Before founding Accord Ross spent 4+ years at Stripe where he helped scale the sales team from 3 to 300+ as the top performing rep. In a past life, he worked at Columbia Records with artists such as Calvin Harris, Snoop Dogg, and Pharrell.

    Social Links

    Ross Rich - LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossrich/

    Accord - LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/inaccord/

    Accord - Website https://inaccord.com/

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • How does a product marketer end up in the CEO seat?

    Moving from being an analyst at Forrester to starting at BlueConic as a product marketer and doing many different jobs at the company over the years landed Cory Munchback the CEO seat.

    Fully backed by the founder, Cory shares her remarkable journey from analyst to CEO, detailing the vital lessons learned and the strategies that have shaped her leadership.

    Cory’s Path to CEO

    Cory started her career at Forrester Research, gaining invaluable insights into marketing leadership and technology strategy. This foundational experience at Forrester was crucial as she transitioned to BlueConic, where she began as the Director of Product Marketing. Reflecting on her diverse roles within the company, Cory notes, "I've always been someone who feels how the system works."

    Key Takeaways for CEOsEmpathy and Understanding Across Roles: Cory emphasizes the importance of understanding every department's role in achieving the company's objectives. She shares, "I have a deep reverence and admiration for the skills that they bring, because I literally knew I wasn't good enough at them or wasn't passionate about them to do it myself."Replacing the Founder as CEO: Cory highlights the smooth transition from the founder being the CEO to her replacing him as a well-planned succession. "He was fully behind me. This was a thoughtful succession plan...me taking over was something he valued as part of his own legacy," Cory explains, underscoring the significance of support and clear communication during leadership transitions.The Importance of Customer-Centric Leadership: The customer is at the core of Cory's leadership philosophy. Coming from product marketing she knows better than most that you have to stay close to the customer.

    Don't miss the rapid fire session at the end of the episode where Cory shares her favorite books and podcasts that have influenced her career and leadership style.

    For an in-depth understanding of Cory Munchbach’s strategic approaches and personal influences that have shaped her journey at BlueConic, listen to the full episode.

    Join us next week on Sales Talk for CEOs for more insights from top executives on driving growth and leadership effectiveness.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction - Unveiling the critical sales knowledge CEOs need to thrive in modern markets.

    00:03 Female CEO Spotlight - Kicking off with excitement for female CEOs and the fresh perspectives they bring to the table.

    01:05 Welcome Cory Munchbach - Introducing Cory Munchbach, CEO of Blueconic, and her unexpected career journey.

    01:29 Exploring Blueconic - Diving into what Blueconic does, its ideal customer profile, and how their tech drives business forward.

    02:26 The Importance of Consumer Insights - Discussing the necessity for brands to deeply understand consumer behaviors.

    02:44 Cory's Path to CEO - A look at Cory's progression within Blueconic and her transition to the CEO role.

    03:02 From Analyst to CEO - Tracing Cory's professional roots from Forrester Research to her leadership position.

    05:03 The Lure to Blueconic - Cory shares what drew her to join a fresh, dynamic startup and tackle new challenges.

    06:07 The Marriage of Sales and Product Marketing - Understanding how product marketing works in unison with sales to achieve success.

    07:56 Initial Sales Struggles & Strategies - Reflecting on early sales efforts and the push for establishing brand credibility.

    08:05 Rapid Role Progression - Cory recounts the various roles she adapted on her way to the top.

    11:14 Cultivating Customer Success - Emphasizing the need for focusing on customer satisfaction to drive sales and business growth.

    14:15 Journey to CEO - Cory's evolution within Blueconic and the responsibilities she accumulated along the way.

    17:11 Cory's Role in Sales as CEO - Outlining how the CEO's involvement can significantly impact sales initiatives.

    About Guest

    As the CEO of customer data platform BlueConic, Cory has spent her career on the cutting edge of marketing technology and has years of experience working with Fortune 500 clients from various industries. Before joining the BlueCrew, she was an analyst at Forrester Research where she covered business and consumer technology trends and the fast-moving marketing tech landscape. A sought-after speaker and industry voice, Cory’s work has been featured in Financial Times, Forbes, Raconteur, AdExchanger, The Drum, Venture Beat, Wired, AdAge, and Adweek. A life-long Bostonian, Cory has a bachelor’s degree in political science from Boston College and spends a considerable amount of her non-work hours on various volunteer and philanthropic initiatives in the greater Boston community. The rest of that time is spent hanging with family and friends; running around with her rescue dog; or – most likely of all – reading.

    Connect with Cory on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/Corymunchbach/

    BlueConic LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/blueconic/

    Check out Alice’s website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/

  • What is RevOps anyway and how is it different from SalesOps? What do I as the CEO need to know about RevOps?

    In a recent episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Eddie Reynolds, a seasoned expert in Revenue Operations (RevOps), shared crucial insights for CEOs looking to boost efficiency and enhance customer experiences. Eddie's expertise centers on aligning sales, marketing, and customer success teams to optimize overall revenue operations. Here are the simplified, actionable insights from Eddie, aimed at CEOs who are ready to leverage RevOps effectively in their organizations.

    Key Takeaways for CEOs:Defining Revenue Operations: Eddie describes RevOps as an evolution of sales and marketing operations. It aims to bridge the gaps between siloed departments to streamline the customer journey and improve revenue efficiency. "RevOps looks at the entire revenue engine, aiming to increase revenue efficiently and reduce costs," Eddie explains.Aligning Teams for Greater Efficiency: Misalignment between marketing and sales is a common barrier to growth. RevOps centralizes functions to ensure all departments work towards the same revenue goals, thus enhancing lead conversion and customer retention. Eddie highlights, "RevOps was developed to tackle the classic disconnects between marketing, sales, and customer success."Focusing on Customer Value: Shifting the focus from lead quantity to lead quality—those likely to convert and offer long-term value—is crucial. This strategy demands a deep understanding of customer profiles and targeted marketing. Eddie advises, "Targeting should revolve around the lifetime value of customers, aligning marketing, sales, and customer success."The Role of Technology in RevOps: Adopting the right tech stack is crucial for effective RevOps. Technology should enhance visibility across the sales funnel and support data-driven decision-making, helping track and optimize the customer journey. "While building a tech stack is vital, it's about more than just technology—it's about supporting the go-to-market strategy," Eddie notes.From Theory to Practice Here are a few ways to apply these RevOps strategies within your own organization.Action Steps for CEOs:Evaluate your RevOps strategy: Ensure it aligns with your company's revenue goals and includes all relevant departments.Train your team: Equip them with the knowledge to understand and implement RevOps principles effectively.Invest in technology: Choose tools that enhance data analysis and inter-departmental communication.

    Watch the full episode here to grasp the complete range of insights Eddie offers about enhancing your business operations through RevOps.

    Subscribe to Sales Talk for CEOs for expert insights tailored for top executives. Join us next week for more guidance aimed at driving your company’s growth and operational excellence.

    Chapters

    01:08 Welcoming Eddie Reynolds - Introducing Eddie Reynolds, an expert in revenue operations, to discuss the transformation of sales operations.

    01:43 Defining Rev Ops - Eddie explains Rev Ops through common problems faced between marketing and sales alignment.

    03:16 Customer Experience Focus - Discourse on how Rev Ops plays a crucial role in enhancing customer experience and aligning sales, marketing, and customer success.

    04:23 Why Alignment Matters - Debating the need for congruence between sales and marketing to ensure valuable customer interaction and efficient operations.

    05:32 The Pitfall of MQLs - A critical view on how misguided marketing goals can lead to poor lead quality and affect sales performance.

    07:30 Challenging Traditional Metrics - Exploring the flaws in current lead generation and measurement tactics and their impact on the sales process.

    08:43 Aligning Marketing and Sales - Solution-focused discussion on setting the right goals to align marketing and sales efforts towards revenue generation.

    09:46 The Place of Rev Ops - Understanding where Rev Ops fits within an organization and the misconception around the Chief Revenue Officer's responsibilities.

    10:53 Rev Ops as a Revenue Generator - Eddie discusses the value of Rev Ops in devising go-to-market strategies and building sales infrastructures.

    12:08 The Role of Technology in Rev Ops - How technology impacts Rev Ops activities, from market strategy to analytics.

    14:13 Finding Qualified Opportunities - Strategies for marketing and sales to identify and pursue high-quality leads more effectively.

    16:22 Account Scoring and Prioritization - The significance of account scoring in direct outreach and how Rev Ops can help focus sales efforts.

    21:21 Optimizing Sales Calls - Tactics to ensure salespeople's time is spent on the most promising leads and opportunities.

    23:50 Starting Point for Improvement - Eddie advises companies lacking leads on initial steps to refine marketing and sales alignment through Rev Ops.

    About Guest

    Eddie spent +20 years in Sales, Customer Success and Marketing, developing his passion for data-driven strategy and process. He was fascinated by the edge it could give an entire company.

    During his time at Salesforce, he covered high-growth VC-backed B2B SaaS companies, meeting hundreds of executive revenue leaders. They cared more about that strategic edge than how the software worked.

    His consulting partners, however, focused on the software, missing the broader GTM strategy. This resulted in many failed implementations and missed revenue targets. It inspired him to start a consulting firm merging system implementation with data-driven GTM strategy: Union Square Consulting.

    Social Links

    Connect with Eddie on LinkedIn:

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    Website:

    Home - Union Square Consulting

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  • In a recent captivating episode of "Sales Talk for CEOs," Clate Mask, CEO and co-founder of Keap, shared his journey from law school to leading a company that’s at the forefront of small business automation software. For CEOs looking to streamline their operations and enhance customer engagement, Clate's insights are golden.

    Key Takeaways for CEOs:Leverage Automation for Growth and Efficiency: Clate explains, "Automation isn’t just about saving time; it’s about scaling your business efficiently to maximize both growth and profitability." This approach has allowed Keap to support small businesses in achieving more with less—something every CEO should consider.Emphasize Customer Success: Moving from traditional support to proactive customer success can significantly impact business growth. Clate emphasizes the importance of this shift: "By integrating Customer Success Managers into our team, we ensure our clients not only use our product but transform their business with it."Stay at the Helm of Revenue Leadership: Even as the company grows, a CEO’s involvement in driving revenue remains crucial. Clate advises, "As CEOs, we must lead the charge on revenue, staying closely connected to the outcomes and processes that drive our business forward."Insightful Reflections:

    Starting with his initial career pivot, Clate’s narrative is a testament to adaptability and passion. He shares, "I was drawn to the fast-paced world of tech and never looked back. It’s about harnessing every experience to propel your company forward."

    Discussing the strategic evolution from Infusionsoft to Keap, Clate offers a candid lesson on market alignment: "We learned the hard way that our strength lies in serving businesses that are ready for automation, not just anyone."

    Clate also gets real about the challenges and triumphs of entrepreneurship: "Those dark years were tough, but they taught us resilience and the importance of staying true to our vision and our customer."

    Watch the full Sales Talk for CEOs Podcast:

    For a deeper dive into how Clate Mask has steered Keap through the ups and downs of tech entrepreneurship and how these lessons can apply to your business strategy, tune into the full episode of "Sales Talk for CEOs."

    Catch the episode on our YouTube channel or listen on your favorite podcast platform to gain more insights into achieving sustainable growth and customer satisfaction.

    Chapters

    01:03 Welcome Clate Mask - Introducing Clate's unique journey from law school to software company CEO.

    01:29 Keap's Mission - Discussing the services Keap provides to small businesses, focusing on growth, efficiency, and automation.

    02:54 Niche Software Solutions - Addressing why Keap is the ideal CRM and business automation solution for small businesses, compared to Salesforce and HubSpot.

    03:33 Clate's Origin Story - Clate Mask shares his transition from law school graduate to co-founding a software company with family.

    05:24 Company Evolution - How the small custom software company grew into a substantial business focused on CRM products.

    07:26 Rebranding to Keap - Clate explains the strategic shift from Infusionsoft to Keap to focus on small business automation.

    09:05 Infusionsoft's Legacy - The integration and enhancement of Infusionsoft within Keap's comprehensive suite of products.

    09:55 Conquering Sales - Clate recounts his early sales challenges and the transformative advice from his father.

    11:27 Automating Success - How the implementation of automated follow-ups revolutionized the company's sales process.

    13:39 Building a Sales Team - Transitioning from lone salesman to establishing a robust sales structure within the company.

    15:50 Helping Profession of Sales - Aligning sales with a mission of helping customers solve problems effectively.

    17:58 Customer Success Focus - The inception of customer success management to drive user adoption and satisfaction.

    20:13 Marketing Alignment - How the Demand Gen and direct sales teams cooperate to generate qualified leads and drive revenue.

    23:02 Scalable Go-To-Market Structure - Examining Keap's organizational structure and the collaboration between marketing and sales.

    About Guest

    NY Times best-selling author, Clate Mask, is the entrepreneur’s guide and the CEO and co-founder of Keap, the leader in small business automation software. Keap is an 8-time Inc 5000 winner and is widely used by savvy small businesses to grow with automation. Clate’s passion is helping small businesses conquer the chaos and grow their business using the Six Keys to Success. When Clate isn’t serving entrepreneurs and building Keap, he loves to spend time with his wife, Charisse, their six kids, and their grandkids. He also loves playing golf and watching sports, with serious passion for the Arizona pro sports teams. He is intimately familiar with the balancing act of entrepreneurs, which is what drove him to discover and teach the Six Keys. Because success as an entrepreneur means having a great business and a great life.

    Social Links

    Connect with Clate on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/clatemask/

    Keap LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/keap-growing/

    Keap Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/keapgrowing

    Connect with Alice on LinkedIn:

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    Alice Heiman | Sales Consultant and Strategist for CEOs