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What if the leadership needed for these chaotic times is not simply about better strategy, but about healing what has been left unattended in ourselves, our organizations, and our world?
In this profound episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Amy Elizabeth Fox and Nicholas Janni, co-authors of the new book Leading in Chaos. Together, they bring decades of experience working with CEOs, senior teams, Fortune 500 companies, and global organizations at the intersection of leadership, culture change, human development, and consciousness.
This was not a conventional conversation about leadership. From the beginning, we entered a relational field that felt alive, thoughtful, and deeply emergent. Amy and Nicholas do not simply speak about presence, healing, awakening, and coherence. They embody it. And that embodiment shaped the whole conversation.
Together, we explored what it means to lead in dark and chaotic times, why trauma-informed leadership matters, and how the inner life of a leader is no longer separate from the work of culture change. We also spoke about “next practice,” spiritual intelligence, AI and the human future of work, and the shift from individualistic consciousness toward a lived realization of interconnection.
This episode is especially valuable for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense that real change cannot be created through tools and frameworks alone. It requires presence, relational maturity, and the courage to turn toward what has been avoided, in ourselves and in the systems we serve.
Key Takeaways
Why chaos is revealing the limits of the old leadership operating system.How healing and awakening have become essential leadership capacities.Why trauma-informed leadership matters inside organizational life.What “next practice” asks of leaders, coaches, and changemakers now.How spiritual intelligence, presence, and relational field awareness can reshape the future of work.Learn More About Today’s Guests
Amy Elizabeth Fox is the co-founder and CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm working with senior leaders, teams, and organizations around leadership, culture change, vertical development, and trauma-informed practice.
Nicholas Janni is an internationally respected leadership teacher, author, and coach who has worked with CEOs and senior teams for more than twenty-five years. His work integrates personal, creative, professional, and spiritual development, and his book Leader as Healer won Business Book of the Year at the 2023 Business Book Awards.
Together, Amy and Nicholas are the co-authors of Leading in Chaos.
Learn More About Today’s Guests
Book: Leading in Chaos → www.leadinginchaosbook.comAmy’s websites ****→ www.mobiusleadership.com | www.amyelizabethfox.comNicholas websites ****→ www.thematrixdevelopment.com | https://www.nicholasjanni.com/Amy on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyelizabethfox/Nicholas on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-janni/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if the problem isn’t that we need more change, but that we need to change the way we do change?
In this solo episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, Jayne Warrilow explores why so much of our modern approach to change is no longer working. We are surrounded by transformation language, leadership models, coaching frameworks, strategy, technology, and endless information. And yet many people are exhausted, organizations are struggling, communities feel more fragmented, and the deeper changes we long for often don’t seem to hold.
This episode is an invitation to look beneath the surface. Jayne reflects on how change itself has become fragmented, with different professions holding different pieces of the puzzle, while very few are looking at the whole. She asks what becomes possible when we stop treating change as something to manage, fix, or force, and begin to understand it as something alive, relational, and deeply connected to the fields we live and work inside.
At the heart of this conversation is the word AND. Not as a concept, but as a way back to wholeness. A way of bringing together what our culture has separated: the individual and the collective, strategy and soul, science and wisdom, the visible and invisible dimensions of change. Jayne shares why resonance has become the center of her work, not as another method, but as a deeper way of seeing. Through frequency, fields, and flow, she offers a more human and life-giving way to understand why some change sticks, why some falls apart, and what it might mean to create change in service of the whole.
This is a reflective and thought-provoking episode for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who can feel that the old ways of doing change are no longer enough for the times we’re living in.
Key Takeaways
Why is our culture obsessed with change, yet so much of it still doesn’t seem to work?How fragmented approaches to coaching, leadership, business, and transformation may be limiting the more expansive changes we need.Why individual change matters, but can’t be separated from the relational, cultural, and systemic fields we live inside.How resonance, frequency, fields, and flow can help us see what is happening beneath the surface of any change process.Why the future of change may depend on our capacity to weave the fragments back into a more life-giving whole.About Jayne Warrilow:
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community, podcast, and training platform for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who are ready to lead from resonance and contribute to regenerative change.
With more than thirty years of experience at the intersection of leadership, consciousness, business, and human change, Jayne’s work bridges ancient wisdom and modern change practice. She is the creator of the Resonance Codes and the developer of the 8 Dimensions of Change. Her newest book, Resonance: The Soul of Change, offers a field guide for sacred changemakers ready to move from fragmented transformation into deeper coherence, wholeness, and regenerative impact. Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
Episode Resources:
Her latest book: Resonance: The Soul of Change, will be published in July 2026.Books: Becoming: Poems From The Thresholds Of Change and Beyond Profit: The Sacred Changemaker’s Guide To Reimagining Business and Leading Regenerative Change by Jayne Warrilow are available on AmazonSacredChangemakers.comJayne Warrilow on LinkedInThank you to our sponsor:
A huge thank you to our Resonance Collective members, podcast sponsors, and extended Sacred Changemakers community, all of whom are visible on our website and helping us make a global impact aligned with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.
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What if the future of leadership isn’t about performing certainty, but learning how to respond with deeper awareness, courage, and connection?
In this rich and deeply thoughtful episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Sarah Carlsen, an executive and systems coach who helps leaders and leadership teams navigate complexity, transition, and growth with greater intention. Before becoming a coach, Sarah led complex change initiatives inside global law firms, where she saw firsthand that the technical side of change is often the easier part. The deeper challenge is human. It lives in how we relate, how we communicate, how we stay present under pressure, and how willing we are to see ourselves clearly.
Sarah’s work brings together whole-person development, relational skills, systems thinking, and the Enneagram, all in service of helping leaders and teams respond to change from a place of groundedness rather than reactivity. What makes this conversation so powerful is that Sarah doesn’t just speak about this work. She embodies it. Her wisdom feels lived, integrated, and deeply human. Together, we explore why leadership today must evolve beyond role, authority, and performance into a more conscious practice of responsibility. We also talk about the courage it takes to stay in hard conversations, how teams can strengthen trust in times of complexity, and what becomes possible when we begin to partner more consciously with what is trying to emerge.
This is an enlightening conversation for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense that the next era of leadership will not be built through strategy alone, but will require presence, self-awareness, relational courage, and the capacity to see the systems we are part of with fresh eyes.
Key Takeaways
Why the technical side of change is often easier than the human side.How leadership can evolve from performance and certainty into conscious responsibility.Why meaningful change must happen across three levels: self, relationship, and system.How leaders can move from reactivity into grounded, intentional response.Why relational courage matters when teams are navigating complexity, tension, and transition.What becomes possible when we begin to trust the wisdom within us, between us, and among us.Learn More About Today’s Guest
Sarah’s website ****→ https://carlsencc.comSarah on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-carlsen-pcc/ORSC Coach Training → https://crrglobal.com/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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207. Leading With Resilience In Mind: Partnering With Living Systems with Dr. Kathleen Allen
What if the future of leadership isn’t about controlling change, but learning from the way life already knows how to adapt, renew, and regenerate?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Kathleen Allen, a trusted coach and advisor to global teams, and the author of Leading from the Roots: Nature-Inspired Leadership Lessons for Today’s World and Following Nature’s Lead.
Kathleen has spent much of her career working at the intersection of leadership, innovation, systems change, and regenerative organizational design. Her work helps purpose-driven leaders and organizations move beyond mechanical, industrial-age thinking and begin designing workplaces where both people and the organization can thrive.
Together, we explore what happens when we stop treating organizations like machines and begin understanding them as living systems. Kathleen shares why nature is such a powerful teacher for leadership today, what regenerative organizations are learning in practice, and how principles such as diversity, interdependence, emergence, adaptation, and resilience can reshape the way we lead and create change.
This is a rich and inspiring conversation for coaches, consultants, leaders, and changemakers who care about regenerative leadership, organizational transformation, sustainability, systems change, and the future of work.
In This Episode, We Explore:
Why nature offers powerful lessons for regenerative leadership.How organizations change when we see them as living systems.What leaders can learn from diversity, emergence, interdependence, and adaptation.Why sustainability may not be enough, and what regeneration asks of us.What organizations are learning after years of working toward regenerative practice.How coaches and changemakers can bring living systems wisdom into their own work.Learn More About Today’s Guest
Kathleen’s website ****→ www.kathleenallen.netBook: Leading From The Roots by Kathleen Allen → https://amzn.to/4fgbdKjKathleen on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-allen-b5293110/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if the biggest thing holding your business back isn’t effort, strategy, or talent, but a lack of clarity?
In this energizing episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Isabelle Mercier-Turcotte and Margarita Romano, Co-CEOs of LeapZone Strategies and founders of Trailblazers Retreat Center. Together, they are no-nonsense business growth catalysts known for helping entrepreneurs, leaders, and teams build brands, businesses, and lives by design, not by default. With more than 25 years of hands-on experience in brand positioning, marketing, leadership, and business growth, Isabelle and Margarita have worked with over 500 companies, including A&W, Robeez Footwear, TEDx, Earls Restaurants, IMAX, TD, and HSBC. Their work helps businesses become The First, The Best, or The Only, so their value becomes unmistakable and they can be chosen with confidence, regardless of price.
This conversation brings together two powerful streams of wisdom. Isabelle brings the sharp, strategic lens of brand clarity, positioning, leadership, and business architecture, while Margarita brings a deeply embodied understanding of human behavior, energy, resonance, and the wisdom of horses. At Trailblazers, their retreat center on Vancouver Island, their equine partners help leaders and teams see what’s really happening beneath the surface, because horses don’t respond to performance, titles, or polished words. They respond to what’s real.
Together, we explore why so many businesses are missing clarity and how that affects everything from leadership and culture to sales, team alignment, execution, and growth. We talk about the difference between branding, positioning, and marketing, why so many purpose-led people over-function, and how leaders can stop carrying everything themselves and begin building with more courage, structure, and intention. This is a practical, honest, and deeply human conversation for coaches, founders, changemakers, and leaders who want to build meaningful work without losing themselves in hustle, chaos, or performance.
Key Takeaways
Why clarity is one of the greatest competitive advantages in business today.The difference between branding, positioning, and marketing, and why mixing them up creates confusion.How to become The First, The Best, or The Only in a way that feels true rather than forced.How horses reveal incongruence, energy, and leadership patterns that are often hidden in boardrooms.How to build a business and life by design, not by default.Learn More About Today’s Guest
Leapzone Strategies website ****→ www.leapzonestrategies.comMargarita's bestselling book: How To Love Without Limits →https://leapzone.lpages.co/book/Ebook: The First. Best. Only. Advantage eBook → ****https://leapzone.lpages.co/first-best-only-advantage-optin/Isabelle on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/leapzoneleader/Margarita on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/margarita-romano-a40445209/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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From Insight to Embodiment: Healing, Awakening, and the Power of Relational Safety with Blaise Kennedy
What if real change doesn’t happen through insight alone, but through the body, the nervous system, and the relationships that teach us how to become whole?
In this deeply grounded and spacious episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Blaise Kennedy, a teacher and guide working at the intersection of embodied awareness, relational attunement, and spiritual awakening. Blaise supports growth-oriented people who are spiritually curious, emotionally honest, and ready for change that shows up in daily life, not only in meditation or peak experiences. His work was shaped by a major turning point at age 24, when he entered recovery and began a serious path of self-inquiry, healing, and integration. That journey eventually led him to create Developmental Architecture, a staged, embodied map of growth that weaves together awakening, nervous system capacity, trauma repair, and relational maturity into one developmental process.
Together, we explore why healing is not a solo project, the difference between insight and embodiment, what the nervous system may really be asking for, and how awakening, healing, and manifestation can be understood as different facets of one living process of consciousness. This conversation has so much value for anyone working in change, whether through coaching, facilitation, leadership, organizational transformation, healing, or community work. It is also deeply relevant for anyone who has done inner work, had powerful insights, or experienced moments of awakening, yet still finds themselves returning to familiar patterns.
Blaise brings a rare combination of vulnerability, humility, wisdom, and lived experience. This is not a conversation about change as theory. It is about change that becomes embodied, relational, and real.
Key Takeaways
Why insight alone is not enough to create lasting changeHow the nervous system shapes our capacity for awakening, intimacy, manifestation, and growthWhy healing was never meant to happen in isolation: The importance of relational safety, attunement, and co-regulation in transformationWhat becomes possible when awakening moves from peak experience into daily lifeWhy coaches, leaders, and changemakers need to understand their own nervous system and relational presenceLearn More About Today’s Guest
Blaise’s website ****→ www.blaisekennedy.comBlaise’s Instagram →@blaisehereAbout the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if the thing that could help heal our divided world is not another answer, method, or ideology, but the rare and sacred act of truly seeing one another?
In this evocative episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by my dear friend Nic Askew, creator of Soul Biographies and founder of Inner View Experiences. For more than two decades, Nic has been capturing the soul of humanity on film, offering a body of work that invites us to see ourselves reflected in one another and remember that we belong to each other.
This is not a typical interview. In many ways, it is more of an experience than a conversation. Nic brings his quietly rebellious, contrarian, and deeply human perspective to the nature of attention, silence, belonging, and what it means to witness another person without agenda. We explore why unconditional attention may be one of the most revolutionary acts available to us, especially in a world addicted to noise, performance, and separation. Somewhere in the middle of this episode, Nic invited me into the silence, and I find myself sobbing. The experience was potent. It becomes a threshold in the conversation, inviting us to feel the fragility and sacredness of being human.
Together, we explore what happens when we stop trying to extract, fix, analyze, or shape one another and instead offer the kind of presence that allows the soul to emerge. This episode is an invitation to listen differently, not simply for ideas, but for what stirs beneath them. It may leave you quieter. It may leave you changed. It may remind you that beneath all our separate stories, there is one same heartbeat.
Key Takeaways
Why unconditional attention may be a revolutionary act in our time.How silence can create space for the soul to emerge.What it means to witness another human being without an agenda.Why belonging is not an idea, but something we remember through presence.How film can become a sacred mirror for the soul of humanity.Why “no-thing” may hold more power than our constant need to do, explain, or solve.Learn More About Today’s Guest
Nic’s website ****→ https://soulbiographies.comInner View Experiences → https://www.innerviewexperiences.comNic on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicaskew/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if coaching was never meant to be merely a tool for performance, but a path for human awakening?
In this rich and deeply reflective episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Pat Williams, one of the founding pioneers of the modern coaching profession and widely regarded as the ambassador of life coaching. A licensed psychologist since 1980, Pat began executive coaching in 1990, well before coaching became the global industry it is today. As a founding member of the International Coaching Federation and one of the profession’s earliest Master Certified Coaches, he has spent decades helping shape the field while mentoring generations of coaches worldwide.
Together, we explore the origins of coaching, how the profession has evolved over the last three decades, and what has been gained and lost as coaching has grown in scale and popularity. Pat shares profound wisdom on the relationship between consciousness and coaching, why human development must remain central to transformational work, and what it truly means to listen when the soul whispers.
This is a powerful conversation about the deeper purpose of coaching, the evolution of the profession, and the responsibility coaches now hold in a rapidly changing world. If you care about where coaching is heading and what it is truly here to serve, this conversation is not to be missed.
Key Takeaways
How coaching began and what the profession was originally designed to serveWhat has changed in the coaching industry over the past three decadesWhy consciousness and human development sit at the heart of transformational coachingWhat it means to “listen when the soul whispers”Why the future of coaching requires greater wisdom from practitionersAbout Dr. Pat Williams
Dr. Pat Williams is one of the early pioneers of the coaching profession and is often referred to as the ambassador of life coaching. A licensed psychologist since 1980, Pat began executive coaching in 1990 with organizations including Hewlett-Packard, IBM, and Kodak. He became a founding member of the International Coaching Federation and received his Master Certified Coach designation in 1998.
Pat holds advanced degrees in Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychology, with a doctorate focused on Transpersonal Psychology and the Evolution of Consciousness. He is the author of numerous books, including Becoming a Professional Life Coach and Getting Naked, and continues to mentor, teach, and shape the future of coaching worldwide.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
Dr. Pat’s website ****→ www.drpatwilliams.comDr. Pat’s books on Amazon → https://www.amazon.com/stores/Patrick-Williams/author/B001H6KXOY?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=trueDr. Pat on LinkedIn → linkedin.com/in/drpatwilliams/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if the thing you’ve been trying to fix… isn’t the thing that’s actually in the way?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by David Strickel, philosopher, author, and a voice for Source consciousness known as The Stream. David’s work doesn’t sit comfortably inside traditional personal development. It doesn’t offer techniques to manage your mindset or strategies to feel better. Instead, it points to something far more precise: the underlying mechanism that shapes how we experience life, create change, and relate to even the most difficult moments we face.
At the center of his philosophy is Omniappreciation, the practice of genuinely appreciating all things, including what we most resist. Not as a mindset shift, but as a way of dissolving the interference that blocks clarity, healing, and conscious creation. In this conversation, we move beyond surface-level ideas of growth and explore what it really means to see clearly in a world where certainty is breaking down. We talk about attention as the true currency of the modern world, the quiet erosion of discernment, and what it takes to reclaim the sovereignty of mind amid constant noise.
This is not a conversation that tells you what to think. It invites you to look again. If you’re someone who senses there’s more beneath the surface of how we’ve been taught to navigate life and leadership… this one will stay with you.
Key Takeaways
Why certainty and clarity are not the same and why that distinction matters nowWhat “attention as currency” really means in a distracted, noisy worldThe difference between performing positivity and dissolving interferenceA deeper understanding of Omniappreciation and why it challenges conventional thinkingWhat it means to be sovereign in your thinking in times of uncertaintyHow we may be unknowingly sustaining what we most want to changeAbout David Strickel
David Strickel is a philosopher, author, and public voice for Source consciousness known as The Stream. His work centers on clarity, attention, and the sovereignty of mind in times of personal and cultural transition.
Over nearly a decade, David guided hundreds of people across six continents through some of the most extreme human circumstances—applying a philosophy he calls Omniappreciation, the practice of appreciating all things without exception. His work makes a clear distinction between performing positivity and dissolving the internal interference that blocks genuine change.
He is the author of The Stream and The Tya Practice, with a forthcoming book titled It Was Always This: The Hidden Code in Omniappreciation.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
David’s website ****→ www.davidstrickel.comBook: The Stream by David Strickel → https://amzn.to/41IAxR5Book: The Tya Practice by David Strickel → https://amzn.to/4tobajsLive Bi-Weekly Transmissions: Saturday 9-11 am PT → davidstrickel.comDavid on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/tyaacademy/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if the future of coaching demands more from us than better tools, sharper questions, or stronger personal brands?
In this special encore episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m sharing a conversation originally recorded with Joel Monk on the Coaches Rising podcast, one that sparked powerful dialogue across the coaching industry and prompted many coaches to reach out, saying it gave voice to what they had long been sensing but had struggled to articulate. Together, we explore why coaching stands at a threshold moment.
As the world grows more complex, uncertain, and interconnected, the old models of coaching are no longer enough. The next era of coaching asks for something deeper than methodology. It asks for greater consciousness, wider capacity, and a more systemic understanding of what real transformation requires. In this conversation, we explore what it means for coaches to evolve beyond transactional change work and step into a more profound role as stewards of human and collective transformation.
If you sense the profession is being called into something greater, this conversation will speak directly to that knowing.
Key Themes We Explore:
Why coaching is at a pivotal moment of evolutionWhat the increasing complexity of our world demands from coaches nowWhy traditional coaching models may no longer be sufficientThe difference between transactional coaching and transformational coachingHow consciousness development shapes coaching capacityWhy inner evolution must precede outer impactThe emerging role of coaches in human and collective transformationWhat the next era of coaching may require from all of usLearn More About Today’s Guest
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership. Through her work, Jayne helps coaches evolve from practitioner to changemaker by integrating inner development, resonance, and systems awareness into the way they lead, coach, and create transformation.
Jayne’s website ****→ https://SacredChangemakers.comBook: Becoming: Poems From The Thresholds Of Change by Jayne Warrilow →Book: Beyond Profit: The Sacred Changemakers Guide To Reimagining Business And Leading Regenerative Change →Jayne on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynewarrilow/About Our Guest Host
Joel Monk is co-founder of Coaches Rising, one of the most respected platforms in the coaching and human development space, known for supporting coaches in the deeper developmental, relational, and transformative dimensions of the profession. Learn more at CoachesRising.com
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What if the most valuable currency in your life isn’t what you achieve, but the quality of your relationships?
In this deeply human and insightful episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Debra Poneman, bestselling author, award-winning speaker, and founder of Yes to Success, The AWAKE Method, and Ageless Seminars. For over four decades, Debra has worked with hundreds of thousands of people around the world, helping them align their inner world with universal law so that success, vitality, and fulfillment can unfold naturally.
This conversation spans time and experience, from the energy of the 1960s to the complexity of the modern world, bringing forth wisdom that feels both grounded and deeply relevant. Together, we explore Debra’s concept of Relationship Capital and how the way we relate to ourselves, to others, and to life shapes everything we create and experience. There is a strong resonance between Debra’s work and the Sacred Changemakers path: the understanding that real change begins within, and that the quality of our inner state becomes the foundation for our leadership, our relationships, and our impact.
This is a vibrant, heartfelt, and at times emotional conversation about love, perception, responsibility, and what it truly means to live a meaningful life in alignment with who we are.
Key Themes
Why Relationship Capital is the most important currency for a meaningful and fulfilling lifeHow our inner world shapes what we see, experience, and create in the world around usThe role of love, perception, and personal responsibility in navigating a divided and changing worldWhat it means to align with universal law, and how this influences success, wellbeing, and longevityHow decades of lived experience, from the 1960s to today, offer perspective on the challenges we face nowThe ripple effect of inner work, and how becoming a “radiator” of love impacts the collectiveLearn More About Today’s Guest
Debra’s website ****→ http://www.yestosuccess.comDebra on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-poneman/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership. Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What does leadership look like in a world where the pace of change is accelerating, and anxiety is increasingly present in our systems?
In this special roundtable episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, Jayne Warrilow is joined by members of the Resonance Collective for an open, emergent dialogue exploring what leaders and coaches are experiencing in the field right now. Together, we reflect on how acceleration is reshaping the landscape of leadership and change. Drawing on our lived experience working with leaders, teams, and organizations, we share observations from the front lines of change.
We explore how anxiety is showing up in our systems, why so many people are feeling the strain of this moment, and what new capacities we may need to cultivate to navigate the future with wisdom and humanity. What unfolds is not a scripted conversation, but a genuine exchange of perspectives, insights, and reflections emerging from the relational field of dialogue itself. At times, it feels as though the conversation taps into something larger than any one voice, perhaps even a collective wisdom that arises when thoughtful people gather together with curiosity and openness.
This episode offers a glimpse into what leaders and coaches are truly seeing in the field today and invites listeners to reflect on how we might consciously respond to the world we are now living in and lead change within it.
Key Takeaways
How acceleration is reshaping the challenges leaders face todayWhy anxiety is increasingly present and what we can do about itThe tension between certainty and presence in change relationshipsHow leadership is shifting from control toward relational awarenessWhat new capacities coaches and leaders may need to navigate the future with wisdomMeet Our Guests
Tracey Lukes is an executive and relational systems coach who works with leaders facing complex change, difficult relationships, and the growing anxiety many organizations are experiencing in today’s rapidly accelerating world. Her work focuses on the human dynamics beneath leadership and organizational change: the relational patterns, power dynamics, and emotional currents that quietly shape how people lead, collaborate, and respond under pressure. For more than 20 years, Tracey has partnered with senior leaders and leadership teams across industries, helping them navigate conflict, uncertainty, and high-stakes moments with greater clarity, steadiness, and relational intelligence. Learn more at www.SynergyPointGlobal.com
Claudia Lindby is an executive coach and strategic leadership advisor based in Denmark, Europe. She brings more than 25 years of experience at the intersection of strategy, leadership, and organizational behavior. Her background includes senior leadership roles in global brands and more than two decades advising leaders and organizations across industries and markets. Her work focuses on strengthening leadership maturity, organizational health, and the behavioral foundations required for sustainable performance. She supports boards and executive teams, assessing leadership, culture, collaboration, and aligning with strategic ambition. https://claudialindby.com/
Jason Stein is an acupuncturist, executive coach, and founder of Wellness Driven Leadership based in Joseph, Oregon. With more than 25 years of experience working with entrepreneurs, founders, and community leaders, Jason helps people align purpose, health, and profits so success doesn't come at the cost of well-being. He brings together ancient wisdom, modern leadership strategies, and real-world business experience to help founders and owners build meaningful impact in their work and communities. Along with his wife Rachel, Jason also cofounded Wallowa Ave Wellness, a remote wellness center in Eastern Oregon. https://jasonstein.com/
Blair Morris was a Doctor of Physical Therapy with a long career in healthcare leadership before becoming a transformational coach and founder of Liminalities™. As they navigate the liminal spaces of true change, Blair partners with her clients around a framework that ensures awareness of aspects such as mind, body, heart, & spirit, to support the client as they work to reconnect to their wholeness, develop conscious awareness, awaken inner wisdom, and lead with intention. She is one of the authors of the best-selling book Leading with Compassion: Cultivating Connection from the Inside Out (2025) and is an artist, gardener, equestrian, and hiker in her free time. She brings a lifelong devotion to conscious, regenerative living into her work, community building, and life. https://theliminalway.com/
About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if the real revolution in business isn’t AI… but consciousness?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Viviana Voorwald — former PwC partner turned founder of TRIBE500 — a network organization guiding leaders to step into renewal, purpose, and conscious leadership.
After nearly two decades shaping organizations from the inside, Viviana experienced a profound awakening that shifted her understanding of power, success, and leadership. She now believes the next evolution of business won’t be driven by intellect alone, but by heart, frequency, and a return to source. Together, we explore what it means to lead from love in a world shaped by disruption — and why elevating corporate consciousness may be one of the most important shifts of our time.
Key Themes:
Why AI may be forcing humanity to remember who we truly areThe “frequency of love” (500) and what it means inside a boardroomMoving beyond the illusion of the mind into embodied leadershipBridging ancient wisdom practices with modern business systemsBuilding TRIBE500 as a collective model for elevating corporate consciousnessThis is a grounded yet expansive conversation for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense that strategy alone is no longer enough and that the future of leadership must be rooted in deeper human awakening.
Learn More About Today’s Guest:
Viviana Voorwald spent almost two decades as a partner at PwC, shaping leaders and organizations from within one of the world’s most established corporate environments. Born in Peru, she carried an early inner knowing and lifelong sensitivity to deeper truths. Through years of personal development and immersion in ancient wisdom practices, including the research of David Hawkins, the teachings of Buddhist master Cuong Lu, the work of Tony Robbins, the Medicine Wheel traditions, and plant medicine healing, Viviana experienced a profound awakening that transformed her understanding of leadership and human potential.
She is the founder of TRIBE500, a curated network of high-level practitioners guiding business leaders to operate from heart, source, and conscious alignment. Her mission is clear: to elevate corporate consciousness and bridge brilliant minds with the frequency of love.
Viviana’s website ****→ https://www.tribe500.comViviana on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/viviana-voorwald-9860391/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What does it mean to remember the soul in a world shaped by transaction, performance, and speed?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Haider Rathor, host of The Temple of Remembrance and a guide of the unseen whose work centers on presence, relationship, and soul remembrance.
This was a high-frequency, deeply human conversation. Together, we explore grief and joy, pain and love, ancestry and future generations, and what it means to live beyond performance and transaction. Haider speaks to remembering rather than striving, to living from the heart in a world shaped by the head, and to reclaiming the sacred as a lived human quality rather than a religious idea. We reflect on the loss of relationship in modern life, the impact of hyper-individualism, and the invitation to return to more relational, heart-led ways of being in leadership, community, and everyday life.
This is a conversation to listen to slowly. One that doesn’t offer answers so much as it opens space for remembering.
About Haider Rathor:
Haider Rathor is the host of The Temple of Remembrance podcast. Through presence, inquiry, and deep conversation, he creates spaces for soul remembrance and reconnection with the sacred intelligence of the heart, body, and soul.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
Haider’s website ****→ https://soulful-awakening.com/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if leadership isn’t just shaped by strategy, structure, or individual capability but by the energetic field we are participating in together?
In this deeply spacious episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Alan Briskin and Mary Gelinas, longtime practitioners and teachers whose work bridges collective wisdom, neuroscience, spirituality, and conscious social change.
Together, we explore the reality that space is not empty, that it is alive with information, relationships, and potential. Drawing on insights from their book Space Is Not Empty, Alan and Mary invite us to sense leadership as a relational, emergent practice rather than a position or role. This conversation moves beyond concepts into a felt, lived experience. We speak about field awareness, language, shared power, polarization, and what becomes possible when leaders learn to listen not just to words, but to the space between us.
This episode is an invitation to slow down, to feel, and to experience leadership differently, not as control, but as participation in something wiser than any one of us.
About Today’s Guests:
Alan Briskin, PhD is an award-winning author, leadership consultant, and a pioneer in the field of collective wisdom. For over four decades, he has worked with nonprofits and mission-driven organizations, including Kaiser Permanente, Sutter Health, and the George Lucas Educational Foundation. Alan is a co-founder of the Collective Wisdom Initiative, a Noted Humanist Scholar at Saybrook University, and has served as Senior Advisor to the Institute of Noetic Sciences, the Goi Peace Foundation in Tokyo, and the One Humanity Institute in Poland.
Mary Gelinas, EdD is a managing director of Gelinas James, Inc., and an author, consultant, educator, and executive coach devoted to conscious social change. She is the author of Talk Matters! Saving the World One Word at a Time and brings decades of experience in organizational change, neuroscience, and embodied leadership. For 20 years, she co-led the Cascadia Center for Leadership, graduating over 500 leaders across sectors, and has worked with organizations including Genentech, California State Polytechnic University Humboldt, and public-sector institutions.
Learn More About Today’s Guests
Space Is Not Empty website →www.spaceisnotempty.netAlan’s website ****→ www.alanbriskin.comMary’s website → www.gelinasjames.comSpace Is Not Empty on LinkedIn →https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-is-not-empty/about/Alan on LinkedIn →https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-briskin-a9637b6/Mary On LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/marygelinas/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What does it really take to speak up when something doesn’t feel right, especially in systems that quietly reward compliance and silence?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Sunita Sah, award-winning Cornell professor, organizational psychologist, and one of the world’s leading researchers on authority, compliance, and defiance. Dr Sah’s work challenges the idea that defiance is disruptive or extreme, reframing it instead as a grounded act of integrity and courage.
We explore why good people so often go along with things they don’t agree with, how subtle psychological forces like Insinuation Anxiety shape our behavior, and why compliance is not a personal failing but a deeply human response to pressure. Dr Sah shares insights from her research, her background in medicine and systems leadership, and the practical frameworks she’s developed to help people move from inner knowing to ethical action.
This is a rich, illuminating conversation for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense that something essential is lost when we stay silent, and who want to reclaim their agency without becoming combative, burned out, or disconnected from their values.
About Dr. Sunita Sah
Dr. Sunita Sah is an award-winning, tenured professor at Cornell University and a leading expert in organizational psychology. A trained physician who practiced medicine in the UK, she has also worked as a management consultant and served as a Commissioner on the National Commission on Forensic Science. Sunita is a sought-after international speaker and advisor to government agencies, and her research has been widely published in leading academic journals and media, including The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, and Scientific American. She is the author of the bestselling book Defy: The Power of No in a World That Demands Yes, now available in paperback from February 24th.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
Dr. Sah’s latest book Defy paperback launches on Feb 24th 2026 → https://www.sunitasah.com/defyDr. Sah's website ****→ https://www.sunitasah.com/Dr. Sah’s TEDx talk → youtube.com/watch?v=d-SWWnl3WLMDr. Sah on Substack ‘Defiant by Design’ → sunitasah.substack.comDr. Sah on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/drsunitasah/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What if marketing didn’t ask you to perform, but to tell the truth?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Eli Natoli, marketing mentor, author, and host of the Marketing Your Truth podcast. Eli’s work offers a refreshingly human approach to business growth, one that honors integrity, clarity, and the lived experience of the person behind the work.
We explore how much traditional marketing quietly pulls people away from themselves, rewarding performance over presence and urgency over resonance. Eli breaks down some of the core assumptions many purpose-driven entrepreneurs have inherited—and offers a simpler, more honest way forward. One rooted in service, trust, and being genuinely understood rather than constantly visible.
This is a grounded, insightful conversation for coaches, creatives, and changemakers who care deeply about their work but resist marketing as it’s usually taught, and who sense that growth can happen without hustle when strategy honors the human on both sides of the exchange.
About Eli Natoli
Eli Natoli is a marketing mentor, author, and host of the Marketing Your Truth podcast. Through her Service First Framework, she helps purpose-driven experts articulate their true voice, simplify how they share their work, and invite clients with integrity, so growth emerges from honesty rather than performance.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
Eli’s website ****→ https://elinatoli.comEli’s book Service First→ https://www.elinatoli.com/elevateEli on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/elinatoli/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What does it mean to choose depth in a world shaped by speed, certainty, and surface-level answers?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Alastair Kidd; coach, facilitator, and self-described “sherpa” for those navigating complexity and meaning in uncertain times. Alastair’s work is grounded in relationship rather than technique, and in conversation as a generative, healing act rather than a means to an outcome.
We explore what it looks like to refuse mediocrity without becoming dogmatic or grandiose through presence, inner work, and a willingness to stay with what matters. Drawing on adult development and systemic constellations, Alastair reflects on reconnecting soul and system across family, organizations, community, and the wider world.
This is a thoughtful, grounded conversation for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense the old ways are no longer enough and who feel called to meet this moment with depth, courage, and humanity.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
Alastair’s website ****→ www.alastairkidd.comAlastair’s Podcast → “No Gurus In This Temple” with Laura Beckingham on all the usual platformsAlastair on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/alastairkidd/About the Host
Jayne Warrilow is the founder of Sacred Changemakers, a global community and learning space exploring the intersection of human resonance, regenerative change, and conscious leadership.
Learn more at sacredchangemakers.com
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What kind of year are we truly stepping into, and how do we meet it without losing ourselves?
In this illuminating and deeply human conversation, Jayne is joined once again by her dear friend Melissa Chambers Yamaguchi to explore the energetic themes of 2026, the Year of the Fire Horse, through the lens of Feng Shui, self-knowledge, and conscious choice.
Last year’s episode with Melissa became one of the most listened-to conversations on the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, and this return builds on that resonance. Together, Jayne and Melissa move beyond forecasts and predictions to explore what this year is really asking of us personally, relationally, and collectively.
Melissa brings over two decades of lived experience as a Feng Shui practitioner, teacher, and speaker, blending ancient wisdom with humor, honesty, and practical insight. At the heart of the conversation is a powerful reminder: when energy intensifies, self-knowledge becomes essential. Fire Horse years don’t reward passivity or avoidance; they invite ownership, discernment, and courage.
This episode is especially resonant for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense that the pace of life is quickening and that the old ways of responding no longer hold. Rather than offering fear or certainty, Melissa invites us into agency to work with energy, not against it, and to take responsibility for the choices we make in times of intensity.
In this episode, we explore:
What the Year of the Fire Horse represents energetically — and why it carries both power and riskWhy self-knowledge and energetic responsibility are non-negotiable in high-intensity yearsHow Fire Horse energy amplifies patterns we haven’t yet ownedThe difference between reaction and conscious choice under pressureWhat it truly means to “own your energy, own your life” in 2026How leaders, caregivers, and changemakers can steward their energy without burning outThe invitation this year holds for courage, clarity, and conscious actionThis is not a conversation about what will happen to us in 2026. It’s a conversation about who we choose to be as we step into it. If you’re sensing the heat rising, in the world, in your work, or in your own inner life, this episode offers grounding, perspective, and a clear call to conscious living.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
Melissa’s website ****→ www.yamaguchilifestyle.comMelissa’s Energy Reads → linktr.ee/myamaguchiExplore Sacred Changemakers:
Start your journey → SacredChangemakers.comDiscover Your Resonance Code → quiz.SacredChangemakers.comJoin our community → SacredChangemakers.com/communitySubscribe to The Coaching (R)evolution Newsletter → https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-coaching-r-evolution-7371571227230101504/Books by Jayne Warrilow:
‘Becoming: Poems From The Thresholds Of Change’ → https://amzn.to/42DM1WI‘Beyond Profit: The Sacred Changemaker’s Guide To Reimagining Business And Leading Regenerative Change → https://amzn.to/40g3By5The 10 Day Coaches MBA: The Small Business Book For Coaches Who Want To Play Bigger → https://amzn.to/46yJRZPConnect with Jayne on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynewarrilow/
Support the Podcast & Our Mission
A huge thank you to our Resonance Collective members whose support helps us align with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals and amplify conscious impact worldwide. If this episode resonated with you, please subscribe, rate, and review on iTunes or your preferred platform; it helps us reach more coaches and changemakers who are ready to step into their sacred calling.
About Sacred Changemakers
Sacred Changemakers is leading a coaching (r)evolution, where coaches move beyond fixing individuals to helping shape a new world. Rooted in resonance, soul, and sacred impact, we guide coaches to become the kind of humans the future truly needs.
If that resonates, learn more: LINK → https://SacredChangemakers.com
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What happens when we keep going, keep functioning, keep showing up while our nervous system quietly remains stuck in survival mode?
In this episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, I’m joined by Petra Brunnbauer, Mind Body Coach, founder of the Jōrni wellbeing platform, host of the globally ranked Jōrni Podcast, and author of The Functional Freeze Formula. With a Master’s degree in Psychology and ongoing doctoral research in Mind-Body Medicine, Petra brings both scientific rigor and deep humanity to the conversation about chronic stress and healing.
This was a conversation I truly enjoyed, and one I personally needed. I learned so much. Petra has a rare ability to name what so many people are living without turning it into pathology or self-blame. She helps us understand how long-term stress affects us across mental, emotional, physical, and energetic levels, and why so many capable, caring people find themselves functioning on the outside while feeling shut down, exhausted, or disconnected within.
Together, we explore the concept of Functional Freeze, the misunderstandings about stress that keep us stuck in survival, and what becomes possible when we approach wellbeing as foundational rather than something we attend to only in crisis. We also talk about why traditional stress management often falls short, and what a truly holistic path out of chronic stress can look like.
This is a conversation for coaches, leaders, and changemakers who sense that pushing through is no longer sustainable and that a more humane, integrated way of living and leading is being called forward.
Key Takeaways
What Functional Freeze is and why so many people live in it without realizingHow chronic stress impacts us across mind, emotions, body, and energyCommon myths about stress that keep people functioning while remaining in survivalWhy traditional stress management often misses the root of the issueWhat shifts when we begin to understand and listen to the bodyHow wellbeing can become a foundation for life and leadership, not a crisis responseYou can learn more about Petra and her work through the Jōrni wellbeing platform and her book The Functional Freeze Formula. And if this conversation resonates, I invite you to listen slowly. There’s a lot here that meets us beneath the surface.
Learn More About Today’s Guest
The Jorni website ****→ https://thejorni.comBook: The Functional Freeze Formula by Petra Brunnbauer → bio.thejorni.comPetra on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/pbrunnbauer/Explore Sacred Changemakers:
Start your journey → SacredChangemakers.comDiscover Your Resonance Code → quiz.SacredChangemakers.comJoin our community → SacredChangemakers.com/communityBooks by Jayne Warrilow:
‘Becoming: Poems From The Thresholds Of Change’ → https://amzn.to/42DM1WI‘Beyond Profit: The Sacred Changemaker’s Guide To Reimagining Business And Leading Regenerative Change → https://amzn.to/40g3By5The 10 Day Coaches MBA: The Small Business Book For Coaches Who Want To Play Bigger → https://amzn.to/46yJRZPConnect with Jayne on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynewarrilow/
Support the Podcast & Our Mission
A huge thank you to our Resonance Collective members whose support helps us align with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals and amplify conscious impact worldwide.
If this episode resonated with you, please subscribe, rate, and review on iTunes or your preferred platform; it helps us reach more coaches and changemakers who are ready to step into their sacred calling.
About Sacred Changemakers
Sacred Changemakers is leading a coaching (r)evolution, where coaches move beyond fixing individuals to helping shape a new world. Rooted in resonance, soul, and sacred impact, we guide coaches to become the kind of humans the future truly needs.
If that resonates, learn more: LINK → https://SacredChangemakers.com
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