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Jason joins to discuss Tando, a Bitcoin payments app in Kenya that connects Lightning to M-PESA. We get into why M-PESA dominates Kenyan payments, how Tando lets Bitcoiners spend sats anywhere M-PESA is accepted, and why pragmatic fiat bridges help bootstrap real Bitcoin circular economies. Then we discuss phone numbers as financial identities, Lightning addresses for Kenyan phone numbers, KYC-free Bitcoin flows, merchant adoption, AI-assisted development, upcoming Kenya Bitcoin events, and the changing regulatory environment.
Tando: https://tando.me/
Tando on X: https://x.com/tando_me
Tando on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqs97ekh6cxykm34l0m5ddrlymhj9rxrys3jemtf90psy3nysum0lkcvrgxmd
Bitcoin Kenya: https://bitcoin.co.ke
EPISODE: 205
BLOCK: 952989
PRICE: 1640 sats per dollar
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Anjan joins for a six month update on The Stringer Foundation, his effort to build the OpenSats of independent journalism. We get into Stringer’s inaugural 25 finalists, their Courage Index for evaluating journalists working under threat, New York Times recognition, funding models for frontline reporters, mental health support, and why truthful human-sourced information matters more in the age of AI. Then we discuss Kyntab, a personal SOS app for journalists and people at risk, plus a deeper debate on open source security, trust, and protecting users under hostile threat models.
Stringer Journalism: https://stringerjournalism.org
Kyntab: https://kyntab.com
Anjan on Nostr: https://primal.net/anjansun
Anjan on X: https://x.com/anjansun
Citadel Wire: https://citadelwire.com
EPISODE: 204
BLOCK: 952242
PRICE: 1523 sats per dollar
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ten31: https://ten31.xyz
opensats: https://opensats.org -
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Hermann Buhr Vivier of Bitcoin Ekasi and Carel Van Wyk of MoneyBadger join for an emergency dispatch on South Africa’s proposed Bitcoin restrictions. We get into draft exchange control rules that would bring Bitcoin under a harsh regulatory framework, including forced disclosure of private keys, undefined transaction thresholds, limits on peer-to-peer commerce, mandatory use of centralized crypto service providers, and potential forfeiture. Then we discuss why South Africa’s grassroots Bitcoin adoption matters globally, how MoneyBadger and Bitcoin Ekasi helped build real circular economy usage, and what Bitcoiners can do to push back through public comments, legal challenges, donations, and awareness.
Property Rights Defense Group: https://propertyrightsdefense.org
PRDG on X: https://x.com/PRDG_ZA
Bitcoin Ekasi: https://bitcoinekasi.com/
Bitcoin Ekasi on X: https://x.com/BitcoinEkasi
Bitcoin Ekasi on Nostr: https://primal.net/bitcoinekasi
MoneyBadger: https://x.com/MoneyBadgerPay
MoneyBadger on X: https://x.com/MoneyBadgerPay
MoneyBadger on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsz85k206vm3vqdmlvcy9l4kyfqchlnf4hnctasxufa3ph0ck9decgpk49rf
EPISODE: 203
BLOCK: 949535
PRICE: 1264 sats per dollar
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ten31: https://ten31.xyz
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Eugene Jarecki joins to discuss his new Julian Assange documentary The Six Billion Dollar Man, filmed over seven years across 15 countries under high security conditions. We get into WikiLeaks as a breakthrough for whistleblowers, Bitcoin’s early role in keeping WikiLeaks alive after Visa, Mastercard, and PayPal cut it off, and why Assange’s story remains central to freedom of information. Then we go deep on the broken state of film distribution, why legacy media and streamers will not touch the film, Jack Dorsey’s idea to release it through Bitcoiners first, and the experiment to make Bitcoin supporters official producers of the film before a wider release.
The Six Billion Dollar Man: https://thesixbilliondollarman.com
Eugene on Nostr: https://primal.net/eugene
EPISODE: 202
BLOCK: 949106
PRICE: 1249 sats per dollar
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Matt Hill joins us to discuss Start9, StartOS 0.4.0, and building a fully MIT FOSS stack for freedom computing. We chat bitcoin as the first killer app for self hosting, why AI agents are accelerating the need, and the privacy trap of “local” AI tools that still send your files to cloud servers. We go deep on StartOS 0.4.0: easier app packaging, more reliable self hosting, Tor, VPN, Start Tunnel, clearnet tradeoffs, and replacing big tech with open source services at home. We wrap with Server One hardware, their upcoming RISC-V router, FCC Wi-Fi weirdness, and a tease of self hosted open source home security cameras.
Start9: https://start9.com
StartOS 0.4 Update Guide: https://docs.start9.com
Start9 Router Presale: https://router.start9.com
Start9 on X: https://x.com/start9labs
EPISODE: 201
BLOCK: 948049
PRICE: 1225 sats per dollar
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UTXO The Webmaster joins to discuss his new android nostr client Wisp, spark wallet integration, encrypted nsec seed backups, and his controversial "Send Money" normie mode that denominates zaps in dollars. We get into follower count philosophy, what actually counts as a user on an open protocol, and why half of bitcoin twitter still hates nostr. Then we go deep on AI: his local rig running Qwen 3.6, on device spam filtering with nspam, whether Claude is subsidizing us into oblivion, and what happens to big tech jobs when a unicorn only needs three employees.
UTXO on Nostr: https://primal.net/utxo
Wisp: https://wisp.mobile/
EPISODE: 200
BLOCK: 946079
PRICE: 1320 sats per dollar(00:02:05) Wisp origin story
(00:02:39) Why Wisp? Stability, UX focus, and the outbox model
(00:05:30) Availability: Android, beta rollout, and Zap Store install
(00:06:14) Onboarding with Spark, Zaps, and wallet backups via nsec
(00:09:02) Custody, risk, and privacy tradeoffs for Nostr Zaps
(00:11:27) Wisp’s "send money" UX and fiat denomination debate
(00:16:39) Do small zaps feel insulting? Behavioral effects of denominating in fiat
(00:17:06) Follower counts: definitions, reputation, and network-relative views
(00:23:07) Bots, fake metrics, and survivorship bias on open networks
(00:31:23) Keys, compromises, and practical key rotation culture
(00:38:05) AI tools in Wisp development and local vs cloud models
(00:45:49) nspam: on-device reply filtering without killing good bots
(00:47:53) Bots with their own feeds, rate limits, and unstoppable relays
(00:53:08) Growth via creators: streaming, ZapStream, and multi-platform outreach
(00:58:58) Mirroring vs authentic posting: does it feel stale or disrespectful?
(01:02:11) Businesses living on multiple platforms and Bitcoin payments
(01:03:04) Daily AI workflow: Claude, APIs, local models, and cost control
(01:06:44) Privacy, local hardware as luxury, and pay-per-query services
(01:11:11) Five-year AI outlook: limits, jobs, bubbles, and lean megacorps
(01:21:26) Closing thoughts and next steps: try Wisp, share feedback
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Craig Raw, creator of Sparrow Wallet, joins to discuss silent payments, a new bitcoin address system that eliminates address reuse, removes the gap limit, and aligns privacy with convenience. Craig walks us through the history of bitcoin address derivation from single key to hd wallets to bip 47, then explains how silent payments optimizes everything except scanning cost and how his new server implementation, Frigate, uses gpu acceleration to mitigate that. We discuss the path to adoption including hardware wallet support, public server infrastructure, bip 353 human readable addresses, and the overall vision of upgrading from hd wallets to sp wallets.
Craig on Nostr: https://primal.net/craigraw
Craig on X: https://x.com/craigraw
Sparrow Wallet: https://sparrowwallet.com
Frigate Repo: https://github.com/sparrowwallet/frigate
EPISODE: 199
BLOCK: 944916
PRICE: 1384 sats per dollar(00:03:09) Craig Raw of Sparrow Wallet
(00:03:27) Silent Payments: what they are and why they matter
(00:06:01) From single keys to HD wallets: history and limits
(00:11:41) Address reuse in the wild and UX realities
(00:11:50) BIP47 review: pros, cons, and hardware wallet hurdles
(00:15:18) Enter Silent Payments: design tradeoffs and hardware support
(00:19:01) Key benefits: static codes, enforced freshness, no gap limit
(00:21:02) The scanning-cost problem and early client approaches
(00:25:27) Server-side strategy: database tweaks and GPUs
(00:29:15) Why public servers matter and performance breakthroughs
(00:33:37) Frigate with Electrum backends: deployment paths
(00:37:20) Risks with public servers and practical mitigations
(00:43:10) Uncle Jim model and GPU-ready home servers
(00:46:21) GPU backends: CUDA, OpenCL, Metal and real-world nodes
(00:47:34) Running everything on a laptop and pruning considerations
(00:49:11) Human-readable addresses: DNSSEC and BIP353
(00:55:14) What’s needed next: hardware, node vendors, and runners
(00:58:13) PSBT details, DLEQ proofs, and multisig caveats
(01:02:13) Timeline to usable SP wallets and public servers
(01:06:10) Reframing SP as UX: contacts and everyday payments
(01:07:22) Ecosystem fit: who could ship this first
(01:08:31) Wrapping up: calls to action and outlook
(01:10:03) Closing notes: upcoming guests and events
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Justin, a prolific contributor to the Fedimint open source project, returns for a six month update. Fedimint is an open protocol providing easy to use, private, programmable, and offline bitcoin payments using bitcoin powered federated chaumian ecash.
Justin on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqspg8fq209jj56663d2n6r9ehkyjffy7rkqqejfdwvtwzva426avkqxtxxuv
Fedimint Website: https://fedimint.org/
Fedimint on X: https://x.com/fedimint
The Ecash App: https://ecash.love/
Fedimint Observer: https://observer.fedimint.org/
Bitcoin Mints: https://bitcoinmints.com/
Iroh: https://www.iroh.computer/
EPISODE: 198
BLOCK: 944073
PRICE: 1466 sats per dollar(02:06) Justin on Fedimint updates since last visit
(03:20) Ecash App vision as a Fedimint reference client
(04:18) Wallet features: on-chain, lightning, ecash, and nostr integrations
(06:01) Fedimint 101: federations, guardians, and multisig trust model
(07:55) Uptime vs. rug risk and Byzantine fault tolerance in practice
(09:18) Making guardianship easier and raising operational reliability
(10:14) Ecash App status, platforms, backups via nostr, and seed UX
(13:16) Mint/federation selection challenges and web-of-trust ideas
(15:39) Observability tools and on-chain vs. Lightning differences
(16:20) Running a Guardian on Start9: setup and backups
(19:39) Networking with Iroh: DNS removal, privacy, and Tor/VPN plans
(23:14) Lightning gateways: roles, trust, liquidity, and multi-federation ops
(27:59) Gateway UX: multiple gateways, auto-switching, and agents help
(29:01) Gateway pairing and funding flows for Start9 deployments
(32:24) Guardians on Android phones: why, how, and trade-offs
(37:30) Blockchain backends: Bitcoin Core vs. Esplora defaults
(39:30) Mobile data, heat, and practical considerations
(39:34) Agentic payments and why eCash fits well for agents
(43:40) Local communities, AI models, and community services vision
(46:06) Real-world adoption, roadmap, modules, and BOLT12 plans
(48:50) BOLT12 receive-side challenges and trust model nuances
(50:26) Pragmatic trust, permissioned gateways, and next steps
(50:37) How listeners can help and contact info
(51:18) Start9 v0.4.0 update chatter and flashing war stories
(53:01) Closing thoughts, progress praise, and sign-off
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Matt Ahlborg, founder of PPQ.ai, rejoins the show for an update on the rapidly evolving AI landscape. PayPerQ is a bitcoin enabled ai platform that enables users to easily use all of the top ai tools without an account. Users pay per use with bitcoin and can switch the models they use on the fly without needing to provide an email address, phone number, or billing address. We discuss the rise of lean teams supercharged by AI tools, the subscription vs. pay-per-token model debate, and why massive subsidies from companies like Anthropic and OpenAI likely will not last. Ahlborg breaks down PPQ's "AutoClaw" smart routing feature that blends cheap and expensive models to cut costs, the addition of secure enclave models for privacy conscious users, and how OpenClaw's explosion drove a 400% revenue increase for PPQ.
PayPerQ: https://ppq.ai/
PayPerQ on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsdy27dk8f9qk7qvrm94pkdtus9xtk970jpcp4w48k6cw0khfm06mss64u96
PayPerQ on X: https://x.com/PPQdotAI
Matt on X: https://x.com/MattAhlborg
EPISODE: 197
BLOCK: 942174
PRICE: 1412 sats per dollar(00:02:57) Matt Ahlborg of PPQ.ai and the fast pace of AI
(00:04:48) Early‑AI "Wild West": workflows, tiny teams, and hiring realities
(00:07:58) Who benefits most from AI? Devs, non‑devs, and the humility to learn
(00:13:00) Two ways to use AI: locked‑in subscriptions vs pay‑per‑token sovereignty
(00:17:46) Business model nuance: subsidies, vendor lock‑in, and PPQ margins
(00:21:00) Open models improve but show limits under real workloads
(00:23:29) AutoClaw smart routing: mixing cheap and premium models
(00:27:12) Routing tradeoffs: cost, competence, latency, and "quarterback" models
(00:31:13) Secure enclaves and privacy: running models in TEEs
(00:38:00) OpenClaw agents: promise, bugs, and the personal AI assistant future
(00:41:22) Building a personalized AI newswire with Nostr and RSS
(00:51:02) Payments debate: Bitcoin first vs accepting everything
(00:58:03) Comparing PPQ and Venice: tokens, privacy claims, and incentives
(01:02:10) Usage data: what users pay with and which models they choose
(01:08:16) Runaway costs and safeguards: spending limits and lessons
(01:08:40) Agentic payments and L402: where Lightning fits vs x402 vs MPP
(01:15:10) Closing thoughts and what’s next for PPQ.ai
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Evgeny is the founder of SimpleX Chat, a private and secure comms protocol that has a radically different approach to the concept of user identity. We discuss how SimpleX's unique transport network assigns addresses to connections instead of endpoints, why MLS is flawed, the upcoming scalable channels feature to compete with Telegram, and how the network plans to sustain itself through a model where large channels fund infrastructure. No phone numbers. Private and secure. Open and scalable.
Personal blog: https://www.poberezkin.com
Official website: https://simplex.chat
SimpleX on Nostr: https://primal.net/simplex
SimpleX on X: https://x.com/SimpleXChat
EPISODE: 196
BLOCK: 941454
PRICE: 1432 sats per dollar(00:02:56) Introducing SimpleX and why Signals model falls short
(00:04:48) What is SimpleX? Sovereignty and trustless design principles
(00:09:21) Privacy as prerequisite for speech and society
(00:13:04) From messenger to scalable channels and Telegram comparisons
(00:17:27) Content privacy vs participation privacy in large groups
(00:23:30) Removing identity
(00:24:32) Transport layer innovation: addressing connections, not endpoints
(00:29:09) SimpleX Chat as first app and platform on the network
(00:30:25) Agents, AI, and commerce inside messaging
(00:32:43) Routers: resource needs and the trust model
(00:36:14) Operator diversity and Tor comparisons
(00:40:15) Packet level anonymity vs persistent circuits
(00:41:39) Discovery and first contact: addresses, reply paths, UX
(00:43:09) Groups at scale, MLS critique, and Signals approach
(00:48:00) SimpleX groups today and upcoming channel relays
(00:52:30) Verifiability, signed actions, and deniability tradeoffs
(01:01:02) Authenticity for public speech in a deepfake era
(01:02:01) Incentivizing infrastructure: beyond hobby servers
(01:08:10) Why premium app models fail; web monetization analogy
(01:11:00) Channels as websites: who pays and why
(01:14:34) For profit vs nonprofit: incentives, governance, and scale
(01:21:16) Consortium governance and resisting capture
(01:27:41) Lessons from the web: speed, innovation, and standards
(01:33:06) Privacy tech adoption realities and movement unity
(01:34:36) Monetization mechanics: registries, naming, and smart contracts
(01:39:54) Programmatic revenue sharing and prepaid credits
(01:52:18) Choosing chains and assets: centralization vs volatility
(01:55:09) Prototype first, prove market fit, then harden design
(01:59:00) Motivation: restoring private communication at scale
(02:00:12) Next steps: consortium, crowdfunding, and closing
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Lea is the cofounder of Vexl, a mobile app enabling convenient p2p no kyc bitcoin trading. We discuss Vexl's unique reputation model based on real-world social graphs, how they minimize fraud without requiring identity verification, the challenges of Apple App Store censorship, the launch of a Freedom Tech alternative app store in the EU, Vexl Club for Bitcoin meetup communities, the origin of the name "Vexl" from Czech black market currency exchangers during the Soviet era, and the importance of funding open source freedom tech projects. We also touch on mesh networks, the upcoming Freedom Tech Summit in Prague, and how meetup organizers can bootstrap local P2P trading communities.
Vexl: https://vexl.it
Freedom Store: https://freedomstore.io
Freedom Tech Summit: https://freedomtechsummit.com
BTCPrague: https://btcprague.com
Lea on X: https://x.com/LeaPetras
Vexl on X: https://x.com/vexl
Vexl on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsd54k9fd0xwjwkttgr3svkg7reftu5una95nhacg95nxq7fmzkdscsu3t66
Freedom Tech Summit on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsdw8j9rfn8jcsz4v9f3xr4637sfnrvxgu84v74jw3pkaf99pe7hrqzqw9mj
Freedom Tech Summit on X: https://x.com/FreedomTechSum
EPISODE: 195
BLOCK: 940918
PRICE: 1355 sats per dollar(00:02:32) CitadelWire.com and CitadelArcade.com
(00:03:03) Lea on Vexl and P2P no-KYC vision
(00:04:04) Back to Satoshi’s intent: Vexl as peer-to-peer cash
(00:06:04) Vexl’s social-graph reputation: friends and friends-of-friends
(00:08:38) UX over ideology: convenience as privacy’s path to scale
(00:10:08) The fiat side: cash first, local rails, and fraud mitigation
(00:13:30) Trust loops: verifying via mutual contacts and in‑person trades
(00:16:34) Network hygiene: feedback, shadow bans, and policing offers
(00:19:06) Sustainability: foundations, grants, and why no monetization
(00:24:41) Trezor ties: origins with Slush & Stick, resources, and separation
(00:27:06) Mobile-first pragmatism and why desktop-only won’t scale
(00:28:00) EU FreedomStore: bypassing Apple
(00:31:00) Android distribution, APKs, and meeting users where they are
(00:33:02) TestFlight limits and PWA tradeoffs for iOS
(00:35:16) App Store bottlenecks, vibe coding, and free‑market pressure
(00:38:17) Freedom Tech Summit in Prague (June 10)
(00:41:11) Prague
(00:42:22) Mesh networks: MeshCore, Meshtastic, Reticulum
(00:44:58) Momentum and crypto‑anarchy: is this the year?
(00:45:26) Bootstrapping Vexl: network effects and how to help
(00:52:24) Meetups as engines: users and liquidity providers
(00:53:26) Vexl Club: invite‑code communities for meetups
(00:57:00) How Vexl Club works: privacy, codes, and self‑policing
(01:00:46) Name origin: Soviet‑era street exchange
(01:02:43) KPIs and dreams: “to Vexl it” and street price discovery
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Scott, cofounder of SideSwap, joins the show to talk about what his team has been quietly building in the Liquid ecosystem. We cover SideSwap's atomic swap markets, their peg-in/peg-out service, and how partners like Aqua Wallet are plugging into their infrastructure. Scott breaks down the new Liquid Connect feature, their first Simplicity based binary outcome contracts on Swaption, and the roadmap toward Bitcoin native prediction markets on Liquid. We also get into Liquid's privacy advantages over Tron and Ethereum for Tether users, the surprising growth of the Brazilian stablecoin dePix, the federation trust model debate, and why liquid adoption has been slow but may finally be turning a corner.
Sideswap: https://sideswap.io
Swaption: https://swaption.io
Liquid Explorer: https://liquid.network
Tether Stats: https://usdt.network
Sideswap on X: https://x.com/side_swap
EPISODE: 194
BLOCK: 940011
PRICE: 1452 sats per dollar(03:00) Introducing Scott and Sideswap
(05:01) Non‑custodial swaps, peg‑in/peg‑out, and order books
(08:08) Liquidity on Liquid: USDT vs. dePix in Brazil
(10:03) Market making tools and dealer participation
(11:58) Why Liquid adoption lagged and what may change
(14:08) Confidential transactions, Tether on Liquid, and privacy gains
(18:10) USDT on Liquid: issuance, custody patterns, and censorship resistance
(21:08) Prediction markets on Liquid: vision and building blocks
(24:46) Designing binary contracts and oracle models
(28:54) Trust models: Liquid federation vs. alt L2s
(33:29) Pragmatism in scaling: Spark, Phoenix, and layered ledgers
(36:33) Liquid Wallet Connect and Swaption MVP
(41:13) Ecosystem growth, integrations, and Brazil network effects
(43:19) Simplicity on Liquid: why it matters for Bitcoiners
(46:26) Calls to action: try swaps, order books, and Swaption
(50:31) User experience: Lightning vs. Liquid in practice
(52:41) AI agents and potential Liquid use cases
(54:46) Roadmap: Satoshi Dice, oracles, and a Polymarket‑style proof of concept
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FIPS is an open source mesh networking project that enables devices to connect directly to each other without relying on any central servers or infrastructure. Today's internet depends on companies and governments that can monitor, censor, or shut down communication at will. FIPS solves this by giving every node a cryptographic identity and encrypting all traffic automatically, so no one in the middle can see or block what you're doing. Nodes discover each other and route messages through the mesh on their own, and regular apps like browsers and SSH clients work on top of it without any special setup.
Arjen on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1hw6amg8p24ne08c9gdq8hhpqx0t0pwanpae9z25crn7m9uy7yarse465gr
Jonathan on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub19wavu4f7l6l43h24jyskn7fvzy37kcfp67aqjtmv2qgy4lp34nhsda8p6k
FIPS Repo: https://gitworkshop.dev/npub1y0gja7r4re0wyelmvdqa03qmjs62rwvcd8szzt4nf4t2hd43969qj000ly/relay.ngit.dev/fips
Tollgate: https://tollgate.me
Sovereign Engineering: https://sovereignengineering.io/
EPISODE: 193
BLOCK: 939631
PRICE: 1465 sats per dollar(02:03) Introducing FIPS and the goal of a middleman free internet
(04:16) Why static IPs fail for hosting and how FIPS reframes identity
(05:51) Decoupling transport and routing: protocol-agnostic design
(06:50) Peer discovery across Wi‑Fi, Bluetooth, and local broadcast
(07:43) Future global routing ideas and decentralized discovery
(09:05) Local mesh handshakes, Noise encryption, and Bloom filters
(11:02) Community meshes, resilience, and mixed transports
(11:42) Starlink and bridging meshes over the wider internet
(13:21) Use case: protest resilience and reconnecting to the world
(14:08) Origins: conferences, Sovereign Engineering, and NoDNS
(16:04) From NoDNS to FIPS: faster updates, remaining gaps
(17:10) Economics: sats for peering and incentive-aware routing
(18:00) Abuse, DDoS surfaces, and defenses via npubs and rate limits
(19:45) Learning from mesh hype cycles and bootstrapping adoption
(22:32) Lowering app friction: make existing apps work over FIPS
(25:12) DNS trick: IPv6 mapping and transparent transport
(27:08) Backwards compatibility as a must-have for scale
(28:08) Rethinking data flow with Nostr streams and local hosting
(30:12) Offline-to-online spectrum and graceful reconciliation
(31:10) Status update: early servers, testers, and bandwidth limits
(32:20) Physical constraints: MTU, Bluetooth, LoRa
(36:00) Reality checks: pitfalls, past meshes, and expectations
(38:12) New primitives: Nostr, Blossom, eCash; Jonathan’s role
(40:37) Identity concerns, key rotation, and operational practices
(46:10) Hosting sensitive services: hot keys
(48:09) Self-hosting privately, Tor comparisons, and latency
(49:37) Observation, Tollgate incentives, and community privacy
(50:40) Tollgate legal concerns and community norms
(53:21) Call to action, testing FIPS, and packaging plans
(55:10) Closing thoughts
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Routstr is an open marketplace for ai compute, powered by nostr and bitcoin.
Routstr: https://routstr.com
Chat app: https://chat.routstr.com
Openclaw setup: https://routstr.com/openclaw
Run a Routstr node and earn sats: https://github.com/Routstr/routstr-core
Github: https://github.com/Routstr
Routstr on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub130mznv74rxs032peqym6g3wqavh472623mt3z5w73xq9r6qqdufs7ql29s
Evan on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1u37h8rhgm9f95d90lpk2afw8h4t75kf6w8vmga2zz9jsx3atzpuqlmw8vy
Redshift on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1ftt05tgku25m2akgvw6v7aqy5ux5mseqcrzy05g26ml43xf74nyqsredsh
Thefux on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub1ygjd597hdwu8larprmhj893d5p832j5mhejpx40ukezgudvayg9qeklajc
Shroominic on nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub18gr2m5cflkzpn6jdfer4a8qdlavsn334m9mfhurjsge08grg82zq6hu9su
EPISODE: 192
BLOCK: 939283
PRICE: 1368 sats per dollar(00:03:02) Routstr and the team
(00:07:24) What is Routstr?
(00:10:26) Proxy providers, proprietary models, and pricing dynamics
(00:13:16) Discovery, reviews, and quality signaling on Nostr
(00:16:07) Fees, sustainability, and open source funding models
(00:21:32) OpenClaw, LNVPS, and one-click sovereign stack
(00:25:27) Why Nostr is ideal for agents vs. closed platforms
(00:33:00) Crowdzapping, bounties, and agents building public goods
(00:38:02) Agent specialization, cost tiers, and future routing
(00:45:31) Resilience: routing around outages and pay-per-request
(00:48:12) Self-host vs. marketplaces, selling spare compute
(00:54:00) AI compute meets Bitcoin mining and energy realities
(00:56:50) Hardware choices: Mac minis, old PCs, and VPS security
(00:59:10) Linux advantage and agents removing UX friction
(01:00:24) Open chat protocols, Marmot, and agentic comms
(01:03:54) Acceleration, small teams with many agents shipping fast
(01:04:19) Closing thoughts from the Routstr team
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Justin Moon leads the open source ai initiative at the Human Rights Foundation.
Justin on Nostr: https://primal.net/justinmoon
Human Rights Foundation: https://hrf.org/program/ai-for-individual-rights/
Easy Open Claw Deployment: https://clawi.ai/
EPISODE: 191
BLOCK: 936962
PRICE: 1473 sats per dollar(00:01:35) Justin Moon and early show memories
(00:03:52) OpenClaw
(00:04:16) Agents change how we use computers
(00:07:07) OpenClaws light bulb moment
(00:09:25) Agents as UX glue for Freedom Tech
(00:10:00) HRF AI work, self-hosting breakthrough, and running your own stack
(00:12:50) AI simplifies hard Bitcoin UX: coin control, backups, photos
(00:14:22) OpenClaw + OpenAI: does it matter?
(00:16:01) AI leverage for builders: open protocols win
(00:19:22) Positive feedback loop: agents and open protocols
(00:20:14) Costs vs privacy: local models, token spend, and KYC walls
(00:23:15) Local hardware economics and historical parallels
(00:27:20) Will capability gaps narrow? Mobile and on-device futures
(00:29:56) Cutting-edge vs private setups; data lock-in and training moats
(00:31:53) Competition, regulation risks, and hidden capabilities
(00:34:05) Chinas open models: incentives, biases, and global adoption
(00:38:56) American and European open models; Big Tech dynamics
(00:40:56) Apple, hardware positioning, and agent UX form factors
(00:42:48) Googles advantage: data, integration, and vertical stack
(00:44:32) Acceleration ahead: productivity leaps and societal shifts
(00:45:21) Jobs, layoffs, and disruptive labor realignment
(00:47:55) From global commons to gated neighborhoods: bots and slop
(00:50:21) Nostr as local internet: webs of trust and bot filters
(00:51:57) Cancel culture contagion and shrinking public square
(00:54:59) Demographic decentralization and small-town resilience
(00:55:00) Lean platforms: X/Twitter staffing as canary
(00:56:59) Universal high income: incentives and realism
(00:58:48) Prepare your household: seize tools, avoid flat feet
(01:01:01) Marmot DMs over Nostr: agents need open messaging
(01:03:11) Building Pika: encrypted chat and voice over Marmot
(01:07:00) Generative UI and real-time media over Nostr
(01:10:07) APIs, bans, and why open protocols become the convenient path
(01:14:02) Future gates: Bitcoin paywalls, webs of trust, or dystopian KYC
(01:17:19) Getting started: try OpenClaw safely and learn by play
(01:22:14) Agents, Cashu, and Lightning UX: bots as channel managers
(01:25:10) Federations run by machines? Enclaves and AI guardians
(01:27:50) Maple, Vora, and bringing self-sovereign AI to mainstream
(01:29:00) Security kudos and caveats; Coinbase and cold storage
(01:30:02) Justins education plan and upcoming streams
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Alex Gleason was one of the main architects behind Donald Trump's Truth Social. Now he focuses on the intersection of nostr, ai, and bitcoin. We explore open source ai agents, such as OpenClaw, and the wider implications of the tech.
Alex on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsqgc0uhmxycvm5gwvn944c7yfxnnxm0nyh8tt62zhrvtd3xkj8fhggpt7fy
Clawstr: https://clawstr.com/
Soapbox Tools: https://soapbox.pub/tools
My bot's nostr account: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsfzaahg24yf7kujwrzje8rwa7xmt359tf9zyyjeczc9dhll30k8pgmlfee2
EPISODE: 190
BLOCK: 935786
PRICE: 1422 sats per dollar(00:02:30) Value-for-value, no sponsors, and show philosophy
(00:02:39) Alex Gleason returns to talk AI
(00:03:56) From vibe coding to open-source agents with memory
(00:05:24) Messaging-first UX: Signal, Nostr, WhatsApp as AI interfaces
(00:06:10) Why chatbots beat traditional AI apps for mainstream users
(00:07:07) Open protocols pain vs closed platforms; Bitcoin and Nostr
(00:08:52) Automating social games: price tracker and agent posting on Nostr
(00:10:01) AI mediators for collective action, constitutions, and nonprofits
(00:11:46) Scaling governance: trust, bias, and Discord vs freedom tech
(00:13:14) Bot barriers on centralized messengers and need for open chat
(00:14:04) Clawstr: decentralized AI-to-AI discussions on Nostr
(00:15:21) Hype vs reality in AI agents; emergent behaviors and money
(00:16:26) Agentic payments: bots with Cashu wallets and earnings
(00:18:40) Agents solving UX pain: relay management, keys, and UTXOs
(00:20:00) Cold storage approvals with chat agents: a new wallet paradigm
(00:20:22) Specialized agents, skills, and distribution challenges
(00:22:34) Cost tradeoffs: pay another agent vs build skills yourself
(00:24:55) Token burn lessons
(00:27:44) Beyond OpenClaw: bloated stacks, Icarus, and cost-optimized agents
(00:28:52) Hybrid model routing: local small models with cloud for heavy lifts
(00:29:47) Agents paying humans directly: disintermediating platforms
(00:30:47) Voice, screens, and form factors: AirPods, text, and brain chips
(00:33:01) Apple, privacy branding, and the Siri gap
(00:34:35) Enterprise AI choices: Google, Microsoft, trust, and lock-in
(00:36:01) Model personalities: Gemini concerns and OpenAI "openwashing"
(00:37:23) Obvious agent UX wins: flights, rides, and social media shifts
(00:38:50) Local-first social: group chats, neighbors, and healthier networks
(00:40:16) Antiprimal.net: standardizing stats from Primal's caching server
(00:43:34) Open specs, documentation via AI, and trust tradeoffs
(00:45:18) Indexes vs client-side scans: performance and verification
(00:46:20) APIs, rate limits, and a market for paid Nostr data
(00:47:57) Agents and DVMs: paying sats for services on demand
(00:48:49) Degenerate bots: LN Markets, costs, and Polymarket curiosity
(00:50:42) Truth feeds for agents: Nostr, webs of trust, and OSINT sources
(00:53:51) Post-truth reality: verification, signatures, and subjectivity
(00:56:04) Polymarket mechanics: on-chain prediction markets and signals
(01:00:10) Trading perception vs truth; sports markets as timelines
(01:01:45) The Clawstr token saga: hype, claims, and misinformation
(01:07:11) Why meme coins are scams: no equity, utility myths, slow rugs
(01:08:55) Pulling the rug back: swapping out, fallout, and donations
(01:10:49) Aftermath: donating to OpenSats and lessons learned
(01:12:14) Prediction markets vs meme coins: societal value distinction
(01:15:25) Iterating beyond OpenClaw and MoltBook; experiments on Nostr
(01:18:00) Do bots need Clawstr? Segregating AI content and labels
(01:21:02) Reverse CAPTCHA: proving bot-ness and the honor system
(01:23:38) Souls, prompts, and token costs; agents with personalities
(01:27:01) Wrap-up: acceleration, optimism, and next check-in
(01:28:21) Open-source models, China’s incentives, and local hardware
(01:30:06) The dream stack: home server agent, Nostr chat, hybrid models
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Carel van Wyk is the founder and CEO of MoneyBadger. MoneyBadger enables easy bitcoin payments at 650 thousand stores in South Africa.
MoneyBadger on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsz85k206vm3vqdmlvcy9l4kyfqchlnf4hnctasxufa3ph0ck9decgpk49rf
MoneyBadger on X: https://x.com/MoneyBadgerPay
Wesbite: https://www.moneybadger.co.za/
EPISODE: 189
BLOCK: 933542
PRICE: 1112 sats per dollar(00:03:26) What is Money Badger? Mission and merchant focus
(00:05:13) Paying anywhere in South Africa
(00:05:27) 650,000 locations
(00:07:04) Leveraging existing QR payment rails and the Pick n Pay breakthrough
(00:10:01) How the flow works: bridging proprietary QR to Lightning
(00:11:18) MoneyBadger app as translator vs. using any Lightning wallet
(00:13:04) Fiat settlement, volatility handling, and business model
(00:17:07) Why no Money Badger wallet? Integrations with Blink, Zeus, Aqua
(00:20:20) A clever LNURL/Lightning Address pattern to decode merchant QRs
(00:23:39) Pragmatic, a bit hacky, and works across wallets
(00:28:04) Replicability beyond SA: Kenya’s M‑Pesa, Ghana, Latin America
(00:32:10) Creating demand: Bitcoin Ekasi as proof-of-use for Pick n Pay
(00:35:15) Real usage: growth to ~5k tx/month and $200k volume
(00:39:40) Who spends Bitcoin? From cash users to OGs and ideologues
(00:42:34) Incentives and the challenge of moving the middle
(00:43:42) Tax context in South Africa: capital gains thresholds
(00:46:59) UX talk: tap-to-pay vs. QR, hardware realities and patience
(00:49:12) Beyond POS: treasury, suppliers, and stablecoin pull
(00:51:03) Bitcoin vs. stablecoins in SA usage; Luno/Binance integrations
(00:55:07) Wild flexibility: paying with almost any token via partners
(00:57:46) Urgency to prove Bitcoin as money before it’s siloed
(00:58:00) Hypothetical: Square/Cash App design vs. bridge approach
(01:03:41) Consumer friction at checkout and signaling acceptance
(01:07:38) Tipping, bridges to Venmo/Cash App, and cash realities
(01:09:19) Call to action: spend Bitcoin to create demand
(01:11:08) Wrap-up: plans to visit SA, links, and farewell
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Matt Corallo has been a bitcoin developer for nearly fifteen years. We discuss his views on the recent bitcoin core bug, the proposed us clarity act, and the risks/mitigations of quantum computing.
Corallo on Nostr: https://primal.net/mattcorallo
Corallo on X: https://x.com/TheBlueMatt
Save our Wallets: https://SaveOurWallets.org
Ten31 Quantum Report: https://www.ten31.xyz/insights/quantum-computing-bitcoin-security
EPISODE: 188
BLOCK: 932276
PRICE: 1030 sats per dollar(00:03:37) Bitcoin Core legacy wallet migration bug
(00:07:41) Backups, edge cases, and defensive coding culture
(00:07:58) Clarity Act and developer protections: SaveOurWallets.org
(00:10:19) Self-custody legal clarity
(00:13:12) Partisan Bitcoin ownership data
(00:14:43) Surveillance and KYC/AML tightening concerns
(00:20:43) Quantum threat framing and scope
(00:22:10) Seed phrases enable quantum-safe proofs via hashes
(00:24:58) What quantum breaks: exposed public keys, Taproot, and address reuse
(00:31:21) Design choices hinge on whether insecure spend paths are frozen
(00:33:43) Options: backup TapLeaf, new address types, and fee/UX tradeoffs
(00:36:14) Opt-in Taproot versioning to signal post-quantum readiness
(00:38:07) Adoption reality: wallet support, privacy impacts, and rollout pace
(00:39:34) Freeze-or-not debate: social contract, market dynamics, forks
(00:43:56) Public vs. secret quantum progress: who gets there first?
(00:47:06) Fork economics: supply shocks, Satoshis coins, and market choice
(00:55:01) In-system vs. out-of-system theft; why quantum is different
(01:10:01) Preparing pragmatically: give future users post-quantum options
(01:24:28) Timelines and hype: where quantum computing really stands
(01:29:00) Final takeaways: no panic
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Anjan Sundaram is an independent journalist, author, and founder of the Stringer Foundation with a mission to expand global independent journalism. We discuss his work and how open protocols, such as bitcoin and nostr, empower journalists.
Anjan on Nostr: https://primal.net/anjansun
Anjan on X: https://x.com/anjansun
Stringer Foundation on X: https://stringerjournalism.org/
EPISODE: 187
BLOCK: 928149
PRICE: 1140 sats per dollar(00:03:09) Anjan’s path: from Yale and Goldman Sachs to war reporting
(00:06:07) How war reporting is changing in the age of social media
(00:10:32) What makes a journalist? Raw footage vs. verified reporting
(00:14:00) Publishing pathways, bylines, pay, and lack of safety nets
(00:18:12) Fixing incentives: philanthropy, prizes, and media economics
(00:21:00) Turning down quant life: the Goldman Sachs detour
(00:23:07) Values alignment: finance, bitcoin, and free information flows
(00:24:49) Bloomberg, Substack, and sustainability
(00:26:19) Designing the Stringer Prize: credibility, juries, and impact
(00:29:39) Launching Stringer: partners, applications, and endowment plan
(00:32:10) Why pay in bitcoin: global payouts, fees, and onboarding stories
(00:35:33) Grants to awards pipeline and the courage index
(00:41:01) Lean ops vs. big charity: publicity without bloat
(00:43:59) The tenure problem: long-term support without dependency
(00:48:26) Transformative fellowships: MacArthur model and global gaps
(00:51:30) Journalism’s core: elevating humane, inspiring stories
(00:53:10) Value-for-value, Nostr, and building ad-free media
(00:58:24) Own your audience: platforms vs. protocols
(01:02:30) Bootstrapping Nostr: network effects and onboarding journalists
(01:05:13) Building a global home for independent journalists
(01:06:07) The drought in investigative reporting and who funds it
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John Arnold is a colleague of mine at Ten31, we are five man team focused on investing in and supporting the best bitcoin businesses globally. This is our third quarterly update where we cover current market dynamics and our outlook.
More info on Ten31: https://www.ten31.xyz
Quantum: https://www.ten31.xyz/insights/quantum-computing-bitcoin-security
Note: AnchorWatch does not use taproot. I was mistaken.
John on Nostr: https://primal.net/john
John on X: https://x.com/JohnArnoldTen31
Ten31 on X: https://x.com/ten31funds
EPISODE: 186
BLOCK: 927606
PRICE: 1108 sats per dollar(00:07:01) Four Year Cycles: Liquidity vs. halving
(00:12:21) Market manipulation?
(00:13:53) Day vs. night: IBIT hours, ETFs, stay humble and stack sats
(00:16:40) Premarket/postmarket liquidity and trading
(00:16:47) Quantum: FUD Rising
(00:24:03) Address types at risk: P2PK, P2PKH race, Taproot exposure
(00:25:11) Practical mitigations
(00:27:28) Long-range vs. short-range quantum attacks and feasibility
(00:28:40) Reality check: scaling physical QC and secrecy constraints
(00:31:01) Coordination and upgrade paths: post-quantum options
(00:33:30) Social contract: no seizure of old coins
(00:36:25) Did quantum FUD drive the drawdown?
(00:40:00) Why gold and silver are at highs while Bitcoin lags
(00:51:06) Mega-cap tech as the new savings account and TINA
(00:57:36) Fed cuts, QT ends, QE or not semantics, and Bitcoins response
(01:07:00) Looking ahead: more cuts, policy path, and 2026 setup
(01:13:01) Giga-bullish case: scarce assets vs. fiscal-monetary impulse
(01:16:03) Gold vs. Bitcoin for individuals and sovereigns
(01:20:02) Counterparty risk with ETFs and the case for self-custody
(01:26:12) Bottom in? Price targets, humility, and risk management
(01:30:29) USD tokens (stablecoins): growth, limits, and policy aims
(01:35:04) Tethers dominance, gold tokens, and a silver tangent
(01:41:03) Closing thoughts: on-chain flows, whos buying, and sign-off
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