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Thomas Hübl and NYT bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, explore the nature of shadow, evil, and collective trauma from a mystical and spiritual perspective.
They discuss the impact of unprocessed pain and ancestral wounds, the obstacles we face as we work to integrate our individual and collective shadows, and the challenges (and benefits) of staying present in a world shaped by both light and darkness.
Elise poses profound questions about the moral qualities of evil, while Thomas offers insights into the interconnectedness of the human experience and what it means to take responsibility—both for your own actions, and for harms perpetrated by others that you have unwittingly benefitted from.
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Together with our global community, Thomas will explore how to reconnect with our inner wisdom, restore balance, and rediscover a sense of creativity and freedom—even in life’s most challenging moments.
Sunday, February 2, 2025 @ 11:30 am Los Angeles / 2:30 pm New York
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comElise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books, including five New York Times Best Sellers. Previously, she was the chief content officer of goop. While there, Elise co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. For the podcast, she interviewed 100’s of thought leaders, doctors, and experts.
Prior to goop, she was the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler. Before Traveler, she was the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she also served as the on-air spokesperson, appearing regularly on shows like Today, E!, Good Morning America, and The Early Show. She has a B.A. from Yale and majored in English and Fine Arts. These days, she serves on two boards (Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams and Skinfix), advises a beauty bio-tech start-up (Arcaea), and spends her time writing, reading, and fundraising for causes and politicians focused on environmental action, social justice, women and children’s health, and a more equitable world.
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Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas reads a short passage from the Tao Te Ching and shares spiritual practices and conceptual tools to help you let go of unhelpful ideas you’re clinging to and create spaciousness in your mind and body.
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas is joined by Dr. Shefali, a clinical psychologist, bestselling author, and host of the Parenting & You podcast. Dr. Shefali is an expert on “Conscious Parenting,” an approach to raising children that focuses on the need for parents to identify and heal from their own traumas—especially childhood traumas—so that they don’t pass on harmful patterns and behaviors to their kids.
She and Thomas discuss the importance of creating emotional safety in parent-child relationships (and all relationships) in order to create an environment where a child, friend, or partner can be their authentic self. They also cover how to identify triggers and how being in touch with your physical body allows you to be more in touch with your emotions.
Dr. Shefali stresses that sometimes growth requires a level of discomfort, and a relinquishing of control, but doing the hard work of becoming more present and self-aware is the best thing you can do for your children.
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comDr. Shefali is a New York Times bestselling author of books on conscious living and mindful living. She is the founder of the amazing Conscious Parenting and Life Coaching Institute, where she trains coaches to use her method and to help others. Dr. Shefali has her own podcast called Parenting & You With Dr. Shefali, which is available everywhere podcasts are heard.
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Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas is joined by Tamala Floyd, a psychotherapist, IFS lead trainer, speaker, and the author of “Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom.”
They discuss the relationship between the “Self” and the multiple “parts” of the self in Internal Family Systems work, and how understanding and integrating our protective parts helps us heal past traumas and establish a stronger relationship with our innate, inner selves.
Tamala shares wisdom on ancestral healing, explaining how intergenerational trauma work supports IFS work, and helps us to free ourselves from patterns and behaviors that don’t serve us. She and Thomas also explore the concept of “legacy burdens”—wounds and harms that we’ve inherited from our ancestors or our culture that impact our lives—and how we can learn to release them.
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comTamala Floyd is a psychotherapist, author, IFS lead trainer, consultant, and retreat leader with over 25 years of experience. Her latest book, "Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom," focuses on healing personal and generational trauma.
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Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas Hübl is joined by renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, Michael Meade. They discuss transformation as an essential element of life, and how embracing radical transformation—both personally and as a collective—allows us to get in touch with our deeper selves.
Michael draws on his knowledge of ancient rites of passage, mythology, and initiation rituals to help define the liminal space humanity finds itself in right now. As we stand on a cultural and environmental threshold, we have a choice: either let go of our egos and open our wounds to be cleansed and healed, or resist change and remain disconnected from life, death, and nature itself.
He and Thomas also explore what it means to be an elder across different cultures, how seemingly apocalyptic turmoil is really a lifting of the veil, and the divine value of stepping into the unknown.
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A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively.
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comMichael Meade D.H.L., is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. He is the creator of the Living Myth Podcast, and the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a nonprofit that encourages greater understanding between diverse peoples.
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Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas Hübl dives deep into how we can learn to be more grounded in stressful moments, and grow our resilience, agency, and ability to respond to challenges. He shares insights and practices to activate curiosity, exploring how we can expand our individual healing into the community.
We're living in a very complex time - a global poly-crisis situation where the topics reverberating in the world might feel overwhelming, isolating, triggering, distancing, even creating indifference.
Thomas focuses on learning to recognize overwhelm and create space within ourselves, in our environment, and in our relationships so that integration and healing can occur.
Where would you like more space in your life, to create the possibility of a different outcome, a new future? Tune in for fresh insights on cultivating space and nurturing wisdom, resilience, and loving-kindness in an increasingly complex world.
✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨
A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively.
For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link:
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas Hübl shares practices and perspectives to help us navigate the challenges that may arise as many of us gather with our families and communities for the holidays.
In situations where differing opinions and issues from childhood can often lead to tension, reactivity, and conflict, it sometimes feels impossible to stay grounded, present, and spacious enough to handle these moments.
With practice, we can learn to recognize our emotions, know how they feel in our bodies, and gain a better understanding of our inner experience so that we can integrate what arises. Then, we can transform difficult moments into opportunities for growth and connection. Or, we can see more clearly when the healthy decision is to walk away.
Thomas explores how we can train ourselves to be more regulated so that we can approach relational challenges with curiosity instead of judgment, and create space to host discomfort and disagreement with fluidity, maturity, and love.
✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨
A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively.
For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link:
👉 https://www.navigatingthelevelsoftrauma.com/podcast
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas is joined by author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant and trainer, and intuitive healer, Michelle Cassandra Johnson. They discuss a new paradigm of collective care and healing inspired by the natural wisdom of honeybees. Michelle, an amateur beekeeper, shares what she’s learned about interconnectedness, adaptation, attunement, and longevity from these incredible creatures.
She and Thomas also explore how we can find the medicine that lives within us and learn to recognize and harness our inner resources for healing.
We live in chaotic times, within harmful systems, and suffer from constant distractions that dysregulate our nervous systems. Thomas and Michelle share how leaning into community, fostering safe healing spaces, and practicing rituals and ceremonies can help us connect with the great and beautiful mystery of life and turn a feeling of lack into a sense of enoughness.
✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨
A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively.
For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link:
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comMichelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual practitioner, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer whose work is grounded in an understanding that we can and must heal individually and collectively. She has authored several books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge, and has spoken extensively about racial equity, justice, and our connection with nature.
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👉 https://www.michellecjohnson.com
Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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In this special bonus episode, Thomas shares a powerful presencing practice focused on conscious enjoyment. In our day-to-day lives, how often are we taking the time to stop and really focus on an embodied experience of enjoyment?
Thomas shares why this is an important part of a well-rounded spiritual practice, and how this can help us release stress-based thought patterns and reinvigorate our lives.
✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨
A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively.
For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link:
👉 https://www.navigatingthelevelsoftrauma.com/podcast
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas shares insights, tools, and practices to help you stay present, responsive, and connected during times of change and uncertainty.
More than ever, we are impacted by world events contributing to a state of polycrisis, where multiple traumatic events happen simultaneously. Thomas explores how we can support ourselves and others at a time when many are feeling chronic anxiety and overwhelm, while also addressing deeper layers of trauma.
Each of us is part of the overall health of the collective nervous system. And as we each undergo our own healing and inner work, we influence the larger collective field. Tune in to learn how to expand your collective understanding to support more effective and multidimensional healing.
#traumahealing #collectivehealing #ancestralhealing
✨ NEW Self-Paced Course from Thomas Hübl: Navigating the Levels of Trauma Healing ✨
A 6-module online training to manage anxiety, overwhelm, and nervous system dysregulation during times of accelerated change and disruption. Explore a new paradigm to move fluidly between different types of trauma healing and learn new tools and approaches to better manage and integrate what is occurring both personally and collectively.
For a limited time, you’ll receive a $100 discount on course tuition when you register via this special link:
👉 https://www.navigatingthelevelsoftrauma.com/podcast
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas is joined by renowned trauma psychologist, bestselling author, and CEO of Break the Cycle, Dr. Mariel Buqué. They dive deep into intergenerational trauma, exploring how it’s handed down through family lines and how we can effectively heal it.
Dr. Buqué’s extensive work with trauma healing has shown the importance of healing in connection with others, especially when the traumas we’ve suffered were traumas that happened in relationship. As humans, we are interconnected, interdependent beings, and it’s healthy and natural for us to rely on each other. But trauma can make that difficult.
Thomas and Dr. Buqué share holistic and professional methods for sustainable healing, stressing the importance of combining individual efforts with community support. Tune in to learn how we can break the cycles that we were unwillingly born into, and move from despair to profound hope and healing.
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comDr. Mariel Buqué is a psychologist, a world-renowned intergenerational trauma expert, and the author of the bestselling book Break the Cycle: A Guide to Healing Intergenerational Trauma. Her mission is to help reduce the recurrence of Intergenerational ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences) within communities of color. Her consultation and therapy practice, the Break the Cycle Trauma Center, addresses the needs of underserved communities via a holistic system of care focused on equity and prevention.
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👉 https://www.drmarielbuque.com
Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas offers insights on how we can generate and maintain hope, exploring hope as a skill and a practice rather than just a belief. He defines hope as the presence of agency—something that we can actively influence and co-create with each other.
Many who have suffered trauma find it difficult to maintain presence and tend to view this as a negative thing. But Thomas offers a different perspective. He explains that being pulled “out of the moment” is an intelligent function that helps us survive traumatic events.
Instead of fighting our feelings and pathologizing our lack of presence, we can actually achieve more groundedness and connection by integrating our wounds, allowing ourselves to feel our feelings, and observing our tendencies with compassion and creativity rather than judgment.
In an interconnected world, we each contribute to a brighter future by doing our inner work and sharing the wisdom that comes from it.
✨ There's still time to register for Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
Join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.
Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.
As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.
Learn more & register with your special discount here:
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas is joined by Dr. Robert Waldinger, a psychiatry professor and the director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, to explore the secrets to human happiness and thriving. They discuss the profound insights gained from the longest-running study on human happiness, revealing how relationships, stress regulation, and having a strong sense of purpose shape our health and longevity.
Dr. Waldinger shares the factors in our lives that we can adjust to have greater agency over our happiness, and the role of wealth and privilege in wellbeing. The conversation also explores the transformative power of meditation, specifically in the Zen Buddhist tradition, offering wisdom on impermanence and interconnectedness.
✨ Join Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
Explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.
Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.
As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.
Learn more & register with your special discount here:
👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/podcast
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comRobert Waldinger is Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and directs the Harvard Study of Adult Development, one of the longest-running studies of adult life ever done. He directs a teaching program in psychotherapy at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, and he writes about what science can teach us about healthy human development. He is also a Zen master (roshi) and teaches meditation both in the US and internationally.
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👉 https://www.robertwaldinger.com
Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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In this special bonus episode, Thomas examines the role of our ancestors in our lives and how lessons from the past can help us heal and evolve as humans.
Our ancestors have left us with many gifts, but have also burdened us with unintegrated trauma. By learning how to connect to our roots and integrate those fragmented pieces of the past, we can bring light, creativity, innovation, and resilience into our legacies. And by doing this work in combination with personal and collective healing, we can build a better world for future generations.
✨ STARTING SOON: Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.
Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.
As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.
Learn more & register with your special discount here:
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas is joined by Margaret Wheatley, a writer, teacher, speaker, and organizational consultant whose work focuses on summoning and training leaders who can step up to guide us in building new systems based on shared values, instead of trying to reform the destructive and corrupted systems that currently threaten life on this planet.
Thomas and Margaret start from the ground up, exploring how collectives and cultures emerge and how they operate, incorporating wisdom from science and biology. They focus on how different cultures define, experience, and approach trauma, and what we can learn from them.
Drawing on her work in diverse international communities, Margaret believes that the human spirit can transcend its individual experience. Using support from community and lessons from spirituality, we can shake off the loneliness of trauma, unite to reclaim our spirits, and use whatever power and influence we possess for the good of all humans.
✨ Registration is open for Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.
Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.
As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.
Learn more & register here:
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👉 https://www.attunedbook.comMargaret Wheatley, Ed.D. began her career as a Peace Corps volunteer in post-war Korea. In many different roles—speaker, teacher, organizational consultant, advisor, and formal leader—her work has deepened into an unshakable conviction that leaders must learn how to invoke people's inherent generosity, creativity, and need for community. She is co-founder and president of The Berkana Institute and the author of thirteen books.
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👉 https://margaretwheatley.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Welcome to the 100th episode of Point of Relation! We’re so excited to share this milestone with you and we’re incredibly grateful to all of our listeners for their continued support.
In this episode, Thomas Hübl explores the concept of relational presence, an essential component of healing personal and collective trauma and nurturing healthy and fulfilling relationships in our lives.
Thomas shares the fundamentals of presence, why it’s such an important element of the way we communicate, and how we can learn to co-regulate and resonate with the people in our lives.
By learning and practicing these skills, we’re building our capacity to form safe, coherent spaces that serve as the primary tool for trauma integration. When we train to see our own filters and unconscious areas, we can create an environment that supports collective healing.
✨ Registration is open for Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.
Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.
As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.
Learn more & register with your special discount here:
👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/podcast
✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas is joined by Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and host of the Deep Transformation Podcast, Roger Walsh. They dive deep into how each of us can leverage our unique skills and capacities to help solve the many crises humanity is facing. It can be overwhelming to view complex, interconnected problems like climate change, war, and political unrest, and feel like you’re powerless to make a difference.
Thomas and Roger assert that we must be willing to face our fears, be present with our emotional responses, and understand the psychological and spiritual roots of these problems to affect meaningful collective change.
Roger stresses that there are no simple, single solutions for individuals or the collective. But at the core of our distress is a deep compassion for humanity, and tapping into that compassion is a powerful activator for collective healing.
✨ Registration is open for Thomas’ all-new course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
This fall, join Thomas to explore how to work with intergenerational trauma, embody our role as ancestors for future generations, access ancestral wisdom for healing our planet, and tap into the spiritual dimension of our ancestral lineage.
Come together as a global community for 5-months of live, online sessions to engage in real-time process work and intergenerational dialogue with expert guest speakers including Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté; Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti, Serene Thin Elk, and more.
As a member of the Point of Relation community, you’ll receive a $200 discount on the course tuition.
Learn more & register here:
👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/podcast
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👉 https://www.attunedbook.comRoger Walsh MD, Ph.D. is a professor of psychiatry, philosophy, and anthropology at the University of California, whose research focuses on topics such as meditation, psychological wellbeing, wisdom, and the psychological roots of our global crises. His books include Essential Spirituality: The Seven Central Practices, and The World of Shamanism. He is a student and researcher of contemplative practices, an authorized lama in Tibetan Buddhism, and cohosts the podcast Deep Transformation: Self-Society-Spirit, with listeners in over 170 countries.
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👉 https://www.drrogerwalsh.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas discusses the importance of ancestral healing and explores how to develop a felt sense of connection with our ancestors. Connection is essential to healing, and connecting with both the wisdom and the unintegrated traumas of our ancestors helps us to be more present and grounded in our own lives, and accelerates our personal and collective healing.
Our ancestors have handed us a wealth of resources, and also a whole lot of unfinished business. Thomas explores how we can connect to the sacred spark of life that we’ve inherited, and feel into frozen areas of wounding and trauma so that we can heal them before they’re passed on to our descendants.
He explains how developing an ancestral awareness not only helps us to integrate the trauma that our ancestors could not, but also connects us more deeply with Mother Earth, allows us to be better stewards of our biosphere, and creates a healthier world for future generations to inhabit.
✨ Join Thomas for a free, live teaching event: The In-Visible Ancestral Blueprint
Have you ever wondered how ancestral healing could hold a major key to healing trauma and transforming our collective future? Join Thomas and a global community to explore the personal and spiritual growth that comes from understanding our ancestral blueprints.
Discover how to heal the past, move beyond hyper-individualism, and create a brighter future for generations to come. Plus, learn about Thomas’s upcoming LIVE course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
Get all the details and register for free here:
👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/event✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:
👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
👉 https://www.attunedbook.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas Hübl and New York Times bestselling author Elise Loehnen discuss the often misunderstood realms of shadow work and collective trauma. They explore how facing our inner darkness can lead to profound personal and societal transformation, and share practical insights on integrating the messy, painful parts of ourselves for spiritual growth and global healing. Without awareness, whatever is being suppressed in the deep layers of our collective shadow will be passed on to future generations. But by implementing new rituals and architectures of healing, we can transform stagnant energy into aliveness, creativity, ethical upgrades, and stronger collaboration across cultural divides.
✨ Join Thomas for a free, live teaching event: The In-Visible Ancestral Blueprint
Have you ever wondered how ancestral healing could hold a major key to healing trauma and transforming our collective future? Join Thomas and a global community to explore the personal and spiritual growth that comes from understanding our ancestral blueprints.
Discover how to heal the past, move beyond hyper-individualism, and create a brighter future for generations to come. Plus, learn about Thomas’s upcoming LIVE course, The Ancestral Healing Code.
Get all the details and register for free here:
👉 https://ancestralhealingcode.com/event
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👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here:
👉 https://www.attunedbook.comElise Loehnen is a New York Times bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, where she interviews cultural luminaries about the big questions of today. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good. She has also co-written 12 books. She was the chief content officer of goop, where she co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming. She was previously the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler and the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she served as the on-air spokesperson.
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Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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Thomas guides a meditation to help you drop into your body, embrace the sensations and emotions that arise, and use your awareness to help regulate your nervous system, open your heart space, and start to feel more grounded.
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👉 https://www.attunedbook.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.
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