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  • Weeks before Sonja Chrystal was born, her father was in a farming accident and became a paraplegic. Months after she was born, her mother packed her bags and left her paralysed husband and two little girls, and never returned. Her dad and her grandparents raised Sonja and her sister on a cropping and grazing property in the central west of NSW before Sonja found herself living and working in Sydney as a graphic designer. It was there that she met her fiance Jeremy, and the father of her son, Herbie, who just turned one. After her dad passed away, Sonja and her non-farmer husband decided to trade their life in Sydney’s Paddington and moved an hour from Dubbo so Sonja could run the family property. While running the property, Sonja and Jeremey decided to start trying for a baby. Things weren’t as simple as they hoped and after an operation, Sonja was diagnosed with stage 4 endometriosis. After booking in for a round of IVF, she then found out she was pregnant. Herbie was born in February 2024, but Sonja had never felt more alone. Sonja is a truly remarkable person and her story is unlike anything I’ve ever heard. From her incredibly unique upbringing, what it was like growing up without a mum, through to isolation, grief, a traumatic birth, a radiant sense of positivity, all while managing a property - we discuss everything including the depths of her postpartum depression and anxiety that she’s been through and survived….. and how telehealth saved her life. This is Sonja Chrystal’s story.

    A quick warning today’s episode discusses mental health including birth trauma and PNDA if you or anyone you know needs help, please contact Lifeline on 13 11 14

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  • From very early on in her career, Elise Petty was a go getter who wanted to make life better for rural people, no matter what role she was in. From working as Telstra Country Life’s General Manager in Armidale NSW, to being a Senior Advisor in Kununurra for Argyle Diamonds, whatever Elise has had a crack at,she’s excelled. Which is why she thought she’d excel when she had a baby. But as we know, things don’t always go to plan. And very soon Elise found herself living on a property in the New England region of NSW, with a baby who wasn’t sleeping or putting on weight. That came following an emergency cesarean and 11 days in hospital. Because on reflection, Elise realised at that time in her life, she did need help.

    That was 20 years ago. Elise now also has three adult step daughters. She’s an Executive Manager at NBN, who are the current sponsor of Motherland’s Summer podcast season, and has been with NBN for the past five years. Today she joins me on this special episode to share her story in a way she’s not done before whilst also covering the critical topic of connectivity.. And the type of tech that’s available now that she could only dream of when she was growing up on the land doing distance ed through HF radio. This is her story.

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  • When you google Cathie Schnitzerling, you’ll be met with some remarkable career statistics. Not only was she Landline’s first-ever presenter in 1991 and the current Executive Producer of the show, but she is also an award-winning writer, producer, and media executive. Her career has taken her to Sydney, to Melbourne and to Brisbane. She’s worked across radio, TV and documentaries. But at the heart of everything she does is her love of the land and the love of her two kids who she raised as a single mum. 20 years ago, Cathie returned home from a work trip with her two-year-old son to find her husband dead. It was a shock, and a part of her journey that she very matter-of-factly reflects on in our chat, but it was this loss, along with her children that drove her forward. What Cathie did next is nothing short of remarkable. She raised her two kids as a single mum, climbed the career ladder and even got qualifications from Harvard Business School. As she says, she went full throttle on her career and motherhood. But not without burnout. Cathie recently fulfilled a long-held dream and relocated from Brisbane to a small farm in the Darling Downs two hours from the city, where she is learning to raise cows, chickens and guinea fowl. I’m grateful I met Cathie in person last year… while 10,000 feet up in the sky together. This is her story.

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  • Connie Wood, her husband Matt and their 3 kids manage Wave Hill Station in the Northern Territory. A property that spans 3 million acres and is a 5 hour drive away from the closest big town, Katherine. And the realities of living on a remote station? We’ll, they’re a lot. When Connie had her first child, she used to drive a 300 kilometre round trip just to get to a mother’s group for some support and connection. The groceries are delivered by a truck once a week, and if anyone forgets to order bread or milk, well, forget it! And when their son was diagnosed with ADHD, Connie and Matt found support through the local Aboriginal health clinic - because the specialist in Darwin couldn’t see them for a year. But through all of this, alongside her own mental health battles, Connie is extremely pragmatic and positive. I thoroughly enjoyed this chat with Connie, especially the part where she talked about her kids being the light she needed through her darkest times. This is her story.

    Warning: This episode discusses mental health and briefly mentions suicide. If you need support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14.

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  • Cindy Banks always thought she’d have two kids. She grew up in a two-child household. Her husband grew up in a two-kid household. Two kids was just the norm. Plus, when you live on a remote station in Queensland, 135km northwest of Cunnamulla, two kids is a whole lot easier to teach distance education to, instead of say…four. But for Cindy, four is now her reality. Because she gave birth to 2 sets of twins in just under 2 years! I met Cindy at Channel Country Ladies Day in 2024, and knew instantly I had to have her on the podcast to tell her story. Mainly because she was so calm, and I couldn’t work out how a person with four girls under the age of five could be that chill. But, remarkably she was, and is, as you’re about to hear. On this episode we discuss the realities of station life, what it was like finding out she was pregnant with twins (again), her struggles, and the importance of filling your cup as a mother. This is Cindy Banks’ story.

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  • Hannah Speers was standing on a stage speaking when I first heard her story, and I knew instantly that I wanted to invite her onto the show. When Hannah met her husband Joe in Tumut near the Snowy Mountains in New South Wales, she didn’t think she wanted to have kids. But she realised that she loved Joe enough to have his kids. And very quickly Liam came along in 2008, followed by Lulu, 12 months later. Hannah and Joe set up their family not far outside of Tumut in a small town called Adelong. Hannah had a successful career at Elders (where she still works) and Joe was working as a Machinery Operator in one of the Pine Mill’s in town. Life was good, chaos, but good. Then a series of events happened that led to their youngest, Lulu, being diagnosed with anxiety. But unbeknownst to Hannah, Liam was also struggling... and what happened next is unimaginable. Hannah is a remarkable woman. And she is going to help a lot of parents of teenagers by sharing her story today.

    Just a warning, this conversation deals with suicide and parts of Hannah’s story is very upsetting. If you or someone you know needs help, call Lifeline now on 131114.

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  • You’ve probably heard of my guest today. But chances are, what you haven’t heard is the story she’s about to tell you. Holly Goodman is a regional powerhouse. She’s a teacher turned small business owner turned fashion designer, and now runs her own label, Peter Bill. Holly met her husband Ben while they were both showing cattle at the Sydney Royal Easter show in High school. They both knew they wanted kids, but it didn’t happen instantly for them. As her friends were getting pregnant around her, Holly was struggling to conceive. But, after two years of trying, their first son was born and she was smitten. 17 months later, their second son arrived in the world. But things weren’t so smooth the second time around. Holly is a very ‘happy-go-lucky person’- but she struggled silently with her mental health for over a year. In this episode, she opens up for the first time about her struggles, how she got through it, and why, not long after, she decided to launch her fashion label. Today we discuss business, family life, mental health and why it’s okay to want to wind back your career a bit to focus on family. This is Holly Goodman’s story.

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  • At 56, Louise Taheny has lived a very big life. The twists and turns and setbacks have truly made her who she is today; a very remarkable woman, as you’re about to hear. Louise was born and raised in regional South Australia, and met her husband John, a farmer, in her early 20s. They knew they wanted a big family. First came Edwina, then Tom, Lucy, Will and then, their youngest, Hugo. After five children in six years, when Hugo was born, Louise knew instantly that things weren’t the same as her other babies. A few days after his birth, Hugo was diagnosed with Down syndrome, and that came with its own kind of challenges. More than a decade on, Louise’s husband had a stroke, and then unbelievably in 2022, their son Will was a passenger in a car accident that left him a quadriplegic. But just wait until you hear what both Hugo and Will have been up to despite their challenges. Over the years, again and again, everything Louise knew, particularly as a mother, was tested, but her positivity and love for her family has shone through all the hardships. So, after everything that has been thrown her way, what has she learned? This is Louise Taheny’s story.

    Our 2025 Summer podcast sponsor NBN is helping bridge the digital gap by providing fast, reliable internet to rural communities and families just like yours. Whether it’s for business,education, health and support, or staying connected with loved ones - nbn’s commitment to rural Australia is shaping a more connected and inclusive future. We’re excited to have them onboard, and also thank them for being the major partner of Motherland Connect! To learn more about how NBN is supporting rural communities, visit nbnco.com.au.



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  • Raechel writes songs about things that matter. Her childhood was spent performing in her family band and instilled a connection to rural Australia. She spent most of her early years living in a caravan while travelling and performing, before establishing herself as one of Australia's most promising new country artists. Her debut album ‘Finally Clear’ debuted at #1 on ARIA Australian Country Charts, and her highly anticipated sophomore album, ‘what a time to be alive’ was released in 2024. I sat down with Raech to talk about motherhood, rural life, and importantly, why she wrote a song about her miscarriage. This is her story.

    Warning: this episode discusses preganancy loss. If you need support, please contact Red Nose Grief and Loss who offer a 24/7 support line on 1300 308 307



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  • Shanna is the founder, CEO, and face behind Sober in the Country, a nationally respected grassroots not-for-profit, shifting the entire conversation around booze in the bush. Shan almost lost her life to trauma-linked alcohol addiction a decade ago and then chose to use her second chance to advocate for other rural and remote people just like her. In our very candid chat, we cover everything from Shan's childhood in Zimbabwe, her struggle with addiction, Sober in the Country's impact, and the toxic 'mummy wine culture'. Motherhood is also something we touch on, and it's very difficult for Shan to talk about. She's always wanted to become a mum - but never got the chance. A warning: today's episode touches on mental health, suicide, trauma, and sexual assault. If you need help, support services are listed below:

    Lifeline 13 11 14
    Sober in the Country: www.soberinthecountry.org
    Family Drug Support 1300 368 186
    Family Member Help: 1300 660 068



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  • Kate McKittrick is based in Mudgee, NSW, and has three adult children (including twins). As her kids were growing up, her focus was on supporting them through boarding school, until one day it was Kate who needed all the support. After taking some very common over the counter medicine to help with the cold she thought she had, she had a severe allergic reaction. The outcome was catastrophic. A rare immune response caused her skin to blister and peel, and she spent 3 weeks in the burns ward, but unbelievably, the worst was yet to come. Weeks after leaving hospital, Kate lost her right eye, and her sight in the other is slowly deteriorating. Despite facing a potential future in the dark, Kate's story is still one full of hope and light. This is her story.



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  • Chris Bath has been a much loved and respected journalist since the late 80's and many of us, including myself, grew up watching her on our TV screens. She's interviewed Presidents, Prime Ministers and popstars, and pushed herself way outside her comfort zone when she carved up the dance floor on Dancing with the Stars! Chris met her husband Jim Wilson at work. The news anchor fell in love with the sports anchor, it's like something out of a movie, and very funny! In 2015, Chris resigned from Channel 7 where she'd worked for 20 years, and before she knew it, she'd fallen head over heels for another industry... farming. She's got one grown up son, and now lives full time on a farm in the Lower Hunter in NSW...she's an accidental beekeeper with an incredible love for the land. How she ended up here is quite the tale, and you're going to love her! This is her story.



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  • Some of us know Kaitie Nash from Instagram, she proudly calls herself 'the first time farmer', and is part of a growing number of farmfluencer mums online, sharing real, relatable and often hilarious content about life on the land. But farm life hasn't always been a laughing matter for Kaitie. She moved to her husband's family property in the middle of a drought, while still adjusting to motherhood with two very young kids. Her mental health plummeted and in our chat she opens up about her very personal journey with that. Kaitie has been a lot of things, even a flight attendant! Farmer was never part of the plan. Today, you'll hear all about the ups and the downs, plus what happened when she got bitten by a snake when she was home alone with the kids. This is her story.



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  • Sadie Chrestman was living a stones throw away from the famous Coca-Cola sign in Sydney’s Darlinghurst, living a very urban life, when she was set up on a blind date. Sadie, who had just turned 40, knew that she wanted to have kids and settle down, she also knew she wanted more space. And it turns out the man she was set up on a date with wanted the exact same thing. You might know Sadie’s name from the long-running SBS series Gourmet Farmer. The person she was set up with in 2007 was none other than chef turned food critic turned farmer Matthew Evans. The only problem was, when they met, Matthew was about to move to Tasmania to start a new life as a farmer. Sadie moved to Tasmania’s Huon Valley when she was 7 months pregnant and very quickly, she found herself learning how to be a mum, and a farmer in a new community, in a different state. Now, Sadie and Matthew run Fat Pig Farm and their son, Hedley, is 15. This is her story.

    A warning this episode touches on miscarriage. If you need support, head to Red Nose HERE.

    The Regional Tech Hub is shining a spotlight on ‘connectivity for education’, helping families navigate how best to connect your loved ones for school, university, TAFE and other online learning. Stay tuned for more detail in January 2025. The Regional Tech Hub is here to help us navigate the complex world of connectivity and the high demand for accessible and impartial advice on phone and internet solutions to support you and your family. Visit the RegionalTechHub.org.au to find out more about their FREE and independent service.





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  • At 35, Kerry O’Sullivan was busy running her 90,000-acre cattle station near Clermont in QLD. On the surface life was great. Kerry had a successful business, lived next door to her 3 sisters and parents, all on neighbouring properties, and spent her weekends at campdrafts. But Kerry knew deep down that she really wanted to be a mum. The only problem was, she’d never met the right person. At 35, Kerry started the process of doing it on her own, but at a routine doctor's appointment, she was told that her body didn’t produce eggs. And while it was a devastating discovery, it didn’t stop her. Kerry began researching egg and sperm donors and IVF clinics. There was talk of embryos from America, but then COVID hit. Thankfully, she found a way to do it all, closer to home. Now Kerry is a mum to two little kids, Joe, who was born in 2022 and Dulcie who was born in 2023. Kerry sits down with me for a very honest conversation about her journey to motherhood, and what she’d tell people who find themselves in a similar situation to her. This is her story.

    The Regional Tech Hub has helped more than 300,000 people around rural Australia with free and independent advice on getting connected and staying connected to vital internet and voice services. The team can help answer all your connectivity questions. Visit the RegionalTechHub.org.au to find out more about their FREE and independent service.





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  • Since 2018, Michelle Moriarty’s life has been split into two halves. Before the love of her life, Nathan died, and after. Michelle and Nathan were raising their family in regional WA after a romance, Michelle says was for the ages. Michelle was working as a social worker, Nathan and her were a team, and life was pretty good. But on the 10th of June 2018, everything changed. Michelle’s grief was all-consuming and isolating despite the village she had around her. She knew then that she didn’t want any other person to feel that way, so she founded Grief Connect - a Young Widowed Support group, and online hub where widowed men and women could come and have honest conversations about the realities of losing loved ones. And then, four years later after losing her father, she founded a similar group for widowers over 55 .Michelle is a remarkable woman and today she shares her grief, her joy, what it was like learning to love again, and how she’s mothered through it all. This is Michelle’s story.

    The Regional Tech Hub’s mission is simple: to equip anyone living or working in rural Australia with trusted connectivity advice to help unlock new technologies, boost innovation, and create a connected future.

    The team can help answer all your connectivity questions. Visit the https://regionaltechhub.org.au to find out more about their FREE and independent service.





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  • This month, Motherland celebrates the positive impact our charity partner, the Isolated Children’s Parents Association, continues to make for families just like yours everyday. Their wonderful volunteers together have created branches throughout rural Australia - and their ‘relentless and always on’ advocacy continues to build and grow better educational outcomes for our kids.

    To bring this incredible work to life, today’s episode features one of their own, Steph Cowper. Steph wears many hats but her commitment to education and dedication to continuous learning shines through.

    Today you’ll hear about Steph’s own motherhood journey...from relocating from a coastal town to rural Queensland, losing her identity after her two kids were born and throwing herself into study, the realities of being married to a FIFO worker and her daughter’s early anxiety diagnosis. This is her story.

    If you’re a parent at any stage of the education journey and are keen to make a difference, join the ICPA community today. Head to icpa.com.au to sign up and support their important work and give our kids the opportunities they deserve.



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  • Nicole Sandland was about to move to Germany to further pursue her professional dancing career when she fell in love with a bloke from the land. She went away for three months but came home, and what happened next was a whirlwind romance. Nicole and Luke packed up their life in Adelaide and moved to Jamestown in regional South Australia, near Luke’s family farm. The pair opened the town’s first gym, and then moved onto a property out of town, and then COVID hit. But unlike a lot of people, Nic really enjoyed the forced lockdown, because she’s not very good at slowing down and not doing things, and she’ll be the first to admit it. Nic is a mum to 18-month-old Seb, a trainer at Kate Ivey Fitness, and the founder, co-director and PT at her own gym, NicFit. In this very honest episode of Motherland, Nic joins me to discuss the ‘trap’ of trying to do it all, what happens when your husband quits farming to join your business, and the realities of being a mum who wants to work, but also wants nothing more than to be with her kids. If you’re also a mum who’s wearing too many hats and who's struggling with the mental load, you need to listen to this very honest conversation. This is Nicole’s story.

    The ICPA is here to help you and your children thrive. Through their support, they can connect you with other families who understand your challenges, and can provide you with access to invaluable tools and resources to support your children’s learning at all ages and stages. Head to icpa.com.au — and join today to give our kids the opportunities they deserve.



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  • Felicity Burton, a keen horsewoman from the age of five, is an exceptional camp drafter, and always knew she wanted a career on the land. And life on the land with kids has certainly had its ups and downs. Felicity was in the early stages of her second pregnancy, with twins, when she took her 20-month-old son Kory on a quad bike ride. They’d fed the horses. Put the dogs away. And we’re just moving a few sheep into the next paddock when they had an accident. With broken ribs and a shattered collarbone, Felicity was driven to hospital while Kory was flown to Brisbane with head injuries. He was placed in an induced coma and took weeks to wake up from it. At such a young age he had to learn to walk, talk and eat again. During their time in Brisbane, the Burton’s stayed at Ronald McDonald house, and that’s where Felicity got an idea. Along with two of her friends, she co-founded the Common Ground Foundation, providing low-cost accommodation for rural families whose loved ones are in hospital. This is her story.

    Felicity and Karl now have a paddock to plate arm of their business and distribute their beef across the country. To order, contact them HERE or phone 0431039809.

    Our charity partner the Isolated Children’s Parents’ Association, or ICPA have been advocating for families just like yours for 54 years.

    ICPA’s volunteers work hard to make sure that every child, no matter how far they live from the city, gets the best possible start in their education journey and that rural and remote students are not left behind.

    Head to icpa.com.au — join today to give our kids the opportunities they deserve.



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  • What’s it like seeing someone else grow your baby? That’s a question I couldn’t help asking today’s incredible guest Jade Cooper. As you're about to hear, Jade hasn’t had the easiest of lives, but that hasn’t stopped her from going after the things that matter. Jade was just 18 months old when a lump was discovered on her kidney. The next three years involved countless trips to Brisbane for chemotherapy, radiation and checkups. Jade went into remission at just three years old, and her childhood is clouded with the memory of knowing she would never be able to have kids, but she wanted to defy the odds. When Jade met her husband, they started trying immediately, knowing it would take some time. Then they were hit with unthinkable news. So, they thought they’d try their hand at foster care...but the blows kept coming. For Jade, this was rock bottom. But then a woman messaged her, offering to be her surrogate.

    Jade’s story is one of hope and never giving up on your dreams, no matter what is thrown your way. It also sheds light on what it’s like going through IVF, surrogacy and egg and sperm donors when you live rurally. This is Jade Cooper’s story.

    Our charity partner the Isolated Children’s Parents’ Association, or ICPA have been advocating for families just like yours for 54 years. Whether you have little ones looking to access early education, primary kids or those looking to access high school or embark on further studies or training, they care.

    Head to icpa.com.au — and join today to give our kids the opportunities they deserve.





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